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Firefox v157 How unfortunate

Started byDnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk>
First post2026-09-29 20:28 +0100
Last post2026-10-06 02:58 +0100
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  Firefox v157 How unfortunate Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-09-29 20:28 +0100
    Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-09-29 12:40 -0700
      Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-09-29 21:05 +0100
        Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2026-09-29 16:53 -0400
          Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-09-30 11:20 +0100
    Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate hsdejong <newsgroup@invalid.hsdejong.nl> - 2026-09-30 08:03 +0200
      Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-09-30 11:26 +0100
        Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate JJ <jj4public@gmail.com> - 2026-09-30 20:39 +0700
          Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-09-30 15:22 -0300
        Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Stan Brown <someone@example.com> - 2026-10-03 21:47 -0700
          Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-10-04 12:08 +0100
            Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-10-04 15:36 +0000
              Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-10-04 19:06 +0100
                Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-05 20:00 +1100
      Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2026-09-30 13:53 -0400
        Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-30 19:18 +0100
          Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-10-01 11:13 -0300
            Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-10-01 16:05 +0100
              Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-02 20:05 +1000
                Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2026-10-02 06:58 -0400
              Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Udo Steinbach <trashcan@udoline.de> - 2026-10-05 09:34 +0200
          Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Udo Steinbach <trashcan@udoline.de> - 2026-10-01 17:37 +0200
            Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-02 20:09 +1000
        Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2026-10-01 03:34 -0700
    Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-30 19:30 +1000
      Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-30 11:05 +0100
        Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2026-09-30 09:00 -0400
          Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2026-09-30 09:10 -0700
        Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-09-30 15:23 +0000
          Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-09-30 15:27 +0000
          Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-30 17:24 +0100
            Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-09-30 17:21 +0000
              Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-30 18:48 +0100
              Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Stan Brown <someone@example.com> - 2026-10-03 21:50 -0700
      Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-09-30 11:37 +0100
        Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-30 22:24 +1000
          Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-09-30 19:04 +0100
            Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-01 19:59 +1000
            Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Nobody <jock@soccer.com> - 2026-10-01 16:29 -0700
        Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Retirednoguilt <HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.invalid> - 2026-09-30 10:29 -0400
          Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Stan Brown <someone@example.com> - 2026-10-03 21:52 -0700
            Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-04 19:43 +1100
        Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate hsdejong <newsgroup@invalid.hsdejong.nl> - 2026-09-30 17:10 +0200
    Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 17:29 +0100
      Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2026-10-01 21:41 -0400
      Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Ralph Fox <-rf-nz-@-.invalid> - 2026-10-03 09:55 +1300
        Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-03 10:26 +0100
          Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Ralph Fox <-rf-nz-@-.invalid> - 2026-10-05 20:10 +1300
            Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-05 20:10 +1100
            Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-06 15:09 +0100
      Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Nobody <jock@soccer.com> - 2026-10-02 16:03 -0700
    Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2026-10-06 02:58 +0100

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#18294

FromStan Brown <someone@example.com>
Date2026-10-03 21:52 -0700
Message-ID<MPG.452b7b60ddc1bb9f9904e3@news.individual.net>
In reply to#18256
On Wed, 30 Sep 2026 10:29:17 -0400, Retirednoguilt wrote:
> Sad to see that you obviously don't have higher priorities
> and more important concerns than the shape of the corners of your web
> browser!

If the shape is so unimportant, why did they spend dev time changing 
it? You're trying to eat your cake and have it too.



-- 
Trolls wouldn't be trolling if nobody would take the flamebait.

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#18295

FromDaniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2026-10-04 19:43 +1100
Message-ID<119t3jb$3o0sm$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#18294
On 4/10/2026 3:52 pm, Stan Brown wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Sep 2026 10:29:17 -0400, Retirednoguilt wrote:
>> Sad to see that you obviously don't have higher priorities
>> and more important concerns than the shape of the corners of your web
>> browser!
> 
> If the shape is so unimportant, why did they spend dev time changing
> it? You're trying to eat your cake and have it too.
> Maybe because everything else about Firefox is soooo perfect!! ;-P
-- 
Daniel70

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#18258

Fromhsdejong <newsgroup@invalid.hsdejong.nl>
Date2026-09-30 17:10 +0200
Message-ID<119j8oe$bav4$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#18248
> I'm very, very attached (Yea I know pun) to my Tabs below the toolbars.
> 
> Tabs above is a crime.
A good user interface doesn't need to be replaced every year just for 
the sake of change.

Not every change is automatically an improvement, and sometimes it seems 
that the people responsible for Firefox change the user interface simply 
because they can, rather than because it actually makes the interface 
better.

Fortunately, Firefox is still customisable enough to fix some of these 
"improvements" with userChrome.css.

And yes, tabs below the toolbars. Definitely!

-- 
With kind regards,
Henk

https://www.hsdejong.nl

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#18276

FromJeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-10-01 17:29 +0100
Message-ID<119m1os$1bonr$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#18233
On 29/09/2026 20:28, Dnews wrote:
> So Firefox 157.0 is released...
> Updated and am NOT happy, what's with the round corners in the various
> windows/panes.
> 
> I don't want rounded corners, I like square corners.
> 
> Any known config to return to square corners?

The round/square corners don't bother me, but having just updated to 157 
I've found that the active tab colour has disappeared, and is now the 
same as the inactive tabs (white). The only difference is that the 
active tab is showing a very thin black border round its perimeter.

I've set browser.nova.enabled to false, and the active tab now appears 
as it did before in light blue. I don't understand why the active tab 
colour was changed in nova, or is it just my Firefox which was affected?

-- 
Jeff

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#18279

Fromknuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com>
Date2026-10-01 21:41 -0400
Message-ID<119n25b$1mrsv$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#18276
On 10/01/2026 12:29 PM, Jeff Layman wrote:
> On 29/09/2026 20:28, Dnews wrote:
>> So Firefox 157.0 is released...
>> Updated and am NOT happy, what's with the round corners in the various
>> windows/panes.
>>
>> I don't want rounded corners, I like square corners.
>>
>> Any known config to return to square corners?
> 
> The round/square corners don't bother me, but having just updated to 157 
> I've found that the active tab colour has disappeared, and is now the 
> same as the inactive tabs (white). The only difference is that the 
> active tab is showing a very thin black border round its perimeter.
> 
> I've set browser.nova.enabled to false, and the active tab now appears 
> as it did before in light blue. I don't understand why the active tab 
> colour was changed in nova, or is it just my Firefox which was affected?
> 
With tabs on the bottom the highlighted tabs makes using tabs more 
effective.   I like the color border around the active tab.

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#18283

FromRalph Fox <-rf-nz-@-.invalid>
Date2026-10-03 09:55 +1300
Message-ID<4i60cl1ja1e81am59nnfu4pbusjoeuss06@4ax.com>
In reply to#18276
On Thu, 1 Oct 2026 17:29:15 +0100, Jeff Layman wrote:
> On 29/09/2026 20:28, Dnews wrote:
>
>> So Firefox 157.0 is released...
>> Updated and am NOT happy, what's with the round corners in the various
>> windows/panes.
>> I don't want rounded corners, I like square corners.
>> Any known config to return to square corners?
> 
> The round/square corners don't bother me, but having just updated to 157 
> I've found that the active tab colour has disappeared, and is now the 
> same as the inactive tabs (white). 

I am using the "Default" theme ("System theme — auto" in 156).
Active and inactive tabs have different background colours in 157,
as they did in FF 156.
 *  The active tab background is white in 157, as it was in 156.
 *  Inactive tab backgrounds are a pale pastel colour in 157,
    and were a pale grey colour in 156.

See screen-shot of 157: <https://imgur.com/a/ptx2x3F>

> The only difference is that the 
> active tab is showing a very thin black border round its perimeter.

FWIW it is a coloured border here in 157, varying in colour from 
pale indigo at the left to peach at the right.

> I've set browser.nova.enabled to false, and the active tab now appears 
> as it did before in light blue. I don't understand why the active tab 
> colour was changed in nova, or is it just my Firefox which was affected?

This may be a problem with the theme which your Firefox is using.


-- 
Kind regards
Ralph Fox
🦊️

One ſwallow makes not a ſpring, nor one woodcock a winter.

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#18287

FromJeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-10-03 10:26 +0100
Message-ID<119qhnc$2sna3$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#18283
On 02/10/2026 21:55, Ralph Fox wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Oct 2026 17:29:15 +0100, Jeff Layman wrote:
>> On 29/09/2026 20:28, Dnews wrote:
>>
>>> So Firefox 157.0 is released...
>>> Updated and am NOT happy, what's with the round corners in the various
>>> windows/panes.
>>> I don't want rounded corners, I like square corners.
>>> Any known config to return to square corners?
>>
>> The round/square corners don't bother me, but having just updated to 157
>> I've found that the active tab colour has disappeared, and is now the
>> same as the inactive tabs (white).
> 
> I am using the "Default" theme ("System theme — auto" in 156).
> Active and inactive tabs have different background colours in 157,
> as they did in FF 156.
>   *  The active tab background is white in 157, as it was in 156.
>   *  Inactive tab backgrounds are a pale pastel colour in 157,
>      and were a pale grey colour in 156.
> 
> See screen-shot of 157: <https://imgur.com/a/ptx2x3F>
> 
>> The only difference is that the
>> active tab is showing a very thin black border round its perimeter.
> 
> FWIW it is a coloured border here in 157, varying in colour from
> pale indigo at the left to peach at the right.
> 
>> I've set browser.nova.enabled to false, and the active tab now appears
>> as it did before in light blue. I don't understand why the active tab
>> colour was changed in nova, or is it just my Firefox which was affected?
> 
> This may be a problem with the theme which your Firefox is using.

I've been using "Light" theme for ages (Version 1.3.4, last updated 11 
March 2024). This is the first time I've seen the active tab change colour.

-- 
Jeff

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#18306

FromRalph Fox <-rf-nz-@-.invalid>
Date2026-10-05 20:10 +1300
Message-ID<ebj6clhgafiq2834mrck6uheea4ncvv6h1@4ax.com>
In reply to#18287
On Sat, 3 Oct 2026 10:26:03 +0100, Jeff Layman wrote:
> On 02/10/2026 21:55, Ralph Fox wrote:
>> On Thu, 1 Oct 2026 17:29:15 +0100, Jeff Layman wrote:
>> 
>>> I've set browser.nova.enabled to false, and the active tab now appears
>>> as it did before in light blue. I don't understand why the active tab
>>> colour was changed in nova, or is it just my Firefox which was affected?
>> 
>> This may be a problem with the theme which your Firefox is using.
> 
> I've been using "Light" theme for ages (Version 1.3.4, last updated 11 
> March 2024). This is the first time I've seen the active tab change colour.


The "Light" theme in Firefox 157.0 (with nova enabled) applies a
gradient background to the tab bar, which the "Light" theme in
Firefox 156.0.1 (with nova disabled) does not.  See screenshots:
    156.0.1     <https://imgur.com/RMBhtna>
    157.0       <https://imgur.com/1F6vsGZ>
    
When I look in Firefox 157's Browser Toolbox, that gradient background 
is composed of 
 *  A semitransparent background gradient constructed with two
    semitransparent colours;
 *  Then blended onto a white background (white when the browser is
    the active window, light blue-grey when it is not).

I am now guessing that what you saw (with nova enabled) might be a 
video driver problem (with that gradient transparency or blending).


-- 
Kind regards
Ralph Fox
🦊️

That that’s good ſawce for a gooſe, is good for a gander.

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#18309

FromDaniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2026-10-05 20:10 +1100
Message-ID<119vpi0$pfnd$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#18306
On 5/10/2026 6:10 pm, Ralph Fox wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Oct 2026 10:26:03 +0100, Jeff Layman wrote:
>> On 02/10/2026 21:55, Ralph Fox wrote:
>>> On Thu, 1 Oct 2026 17:29:15 +0100, Jeff Layman wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I've set browser.nova.enabled to false, and the active tab now
>>>> appears as it did before in light blue. I don't understand why
>>>> the active tab colour was changed in nova, or is it just my
>>>> Firefox which was affected?
>>> 
>>> This may be a problem with the theme which your Firefox is
>>> using.
>> 
>> I've been using "Light" theme for ages (Version 1.3.4, last updated
>> 11 March 2024). This is the first time I've seen the active tab
>> change colour.
> 
> The "Light" theme in Firefox 157.0 (with nova enabled) applies a 
> gradient background to the tab bar, which the "Light" theme in 
> Firefox 156.0.1 (with nova disabled) does not.  See screenshots: 
> 156.0.1     <https://imgur.com/RMBhtna> 157.0
> <https://imgur.com/1F6vsGZ>
> 
> When I look in Firefox 157's Browser Toolbox, that gradient
> background is composed of *  A semitransparent background gradient
> constructed with two semitransparent colours; *  Then blended onto a
> white background (white when the browser is the active window, light
> blue-grey when it is not).
> 
> I am now guessing that what you saw (with nova enabled) might be a 
> video driver problem (with that gradient transparency or blending).
> 
When I copy those two links into my Firefox, at first I see what looks
like square corners .... but then, when I click on the images, the 
second images do seem to have slightly rounded corners.

Thanks .... But not for me.
-- 
Daniel70

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#18312

FromJeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-10-06 15:09 +0100
Message-ID<11a2vfa$20ehs$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#18306
On 05/10/2026 08:10, Ralph Fox wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Oct 2026 10:26:03 +0100, Jeff Layman wrote:
>> On 02/10/2026 21:55, Ralph Fox wrote:
>>> On Thu, 1 Oct 2026 17:29:15 +0100, Jeff Layman wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've set browser.nova.enabled to false, and the active tab now appears
>>>> as it did before in light blue. I don't understand why the active tab
>>>> colour was changed in nova, or is it just my Firefox which was affected?
>>>
>>> This may be a problem with the theme which your Firefox is using.
>>
>> I've been using "Light" theme for ages (Version 1.3.4, last updated 11
>> March 2024). This is the first time I've seen the active tab change colour.
> 
> 
> The "Light" theme in Firefox 157.0 (with nova enabled) applies a
> gradient background to the tab bar, which the "Light" theme in
> Firefox 156.0.1 (with nova disabled) does not.  See screenshots:
>      156.0.1     <https://imgur.com/RMBhtna>
>      157.0       <https://imgur.com/1F6vsGZ>

Unfortunately, Imgur is not available in the UK.

> When I look in Firefox 157's Browser Toolbox, that gradient background
> is composed of
>   *  A semitransparent background gradient constructed with two
>      semitransparent colours;
>   *  Then blended onto a white background (white when the browser is
>      the active window, light blue-grey when it is not).
> 
> I am now guessing that what you saw (with nova enabled) might be a
> video driver problem (with that gradient transparency or blending).

Well, that's always possible, but I'd have hoped that any driver issue 
would have been picked up in testing.

-- 
Jeff

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#18285

FromNobody <jock@soccer.com>
Date2026-10-02 16:03 -0700
Message-ID<119pd7a$2hrb0$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#18276
On 2026-10-01 9:29 a.m., Jeff Layman wrote:
> On 29/09/2026 20:28, Dnews wrote:
>> So Firefox 157.0 is released...
>> Updated and am NOT happy, what's with the round corners in the various
>> windows/panes.
>>
>> I don't want rounded corners, I like square corners.
>>
>> Any known config to return to square corners?
> 
> The round/square corners don't bother me, but having just updated to 157
> I've found that the active tab colour has disappeared, and is now the
> same as the inactive tabs (white). The only difference is that the
> active tab is showing a very thin black border round its perimeter.
> 
> I've set browser.nova.enabled to false, and the active tab now appears
> as it did before in light blue. I don't understand why the active tab
> colour was changed in nova, or is it just my Firefox which was affected?
> 

Should you wish a Really Strident Active Tab, I recommend the Lufthansa 
Terminal theme!

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#18310

FromBrian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid>
Date2026-10-06 02:58 +0100
Message-ID<nij2tbFmjbmU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#18233
On 29/09/2026 20:28, Dnews wrote:
> So Firefox 157.0 is released...
> Updated and am NOT happy, what's with the round corners in the various
> windows/panes.

You must have already tweaked things that I left alone because nothing 
has rounded corners where it matters on my FF 157.

-- 
Brian Gregory (in England).

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