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  When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2026-07-20 01:02 +0000
    Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2026-07-19 22:10 -0400
      Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-07-20 07:50 +0100
    Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-07-20 03:31 +0100
    Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-20 17:24 +0200
    Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? Nobody <jock@soccer.com> - 2026-07-20 08:37 -0700
      Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-07-20 10:01 -0700
        Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? Nobody <jock@soccer.com> - 2026-07-20 10:37 -0700
        Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-07-21 19:26 +1000
          Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-07-21 10:52 +0100
            Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-07-21 22:54 +1000
              Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-07-21 08:03 -0700
            Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-21 22:22 +0200
          Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-21 22:18 +0200
            Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-07-22 19:26 +1000
              Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-07-22 07:15 -0700
                Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-07-23 00:31 +1000
                  Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2026-07-23 01:26 +0000
                    Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-07-23 20:13 +1000
                      Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-07-23 07:47 -0700
                        Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-07-23 16:22 +0100
                        Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-23 18:50 +0200
                        Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? [OT] "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-23 20:08 +0200
                          Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? [OT] Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-07-23 19:18 +0100
                            Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? [OT] Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2026-07-24 16:10 +0000
                            Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? [OT] The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-07-24 12:25 -0700
                              Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? [OT] Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-07-25 19:56 +1000
                          Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? [OT] Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2026-07-24 16:09 +0000
                            Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? [OT] "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-25 15:40 +0200
                              Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? [OT] The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-07-25 07:18 -0700
                                OT (Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? ...) ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2026-07-26 05:48 +0000
                        Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-07-23 21:03 +0100
                          Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2026-07-24 15:49 +0000
                          Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-07-24 12:30 -0700
                        Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2026-07-24 01:20 +0000
                          Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-07-24 12:33 -0700
                            Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2026-07-25 01:43 +0000
                              Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-07-25 07:26 -0700
                                Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-07-25 07:38 -0700
                                  Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? "Rinaldi J. Montessi" <rinaldij@alien.free> - 2026-07-25 12:08 -0500
                                    Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-07-26 09:49 -0700
                            Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-07-25 20:03 +1000
                              OT (Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)?) ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2026-07-26 05:41 +0000
                              Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-07-26 15:28 +0100
                                Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2026-07-27 00:30 +0000
    Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? SpallsHurgenson(NG) <user14325@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-07-20 17:01 +0000
      Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2026-07-20 22:54 +0000
    Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-20 22:09 +0200
    Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2026-07-20 17:53 -0400
      Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-21 22:23 +0200

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#17889

The Real Bev wrote:

> Jesus, doesn't anyone use a REAL computer any more?  Tower case, 4 or 5 
> hard drives, a DVD drive, a REAL keyboard, a REAL mouse?

I have one, but it hasn't been my primary machine for several years ...

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#17890

On 2026-07-23 16:47, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 7/23/26 03:13, Daniel70 wrote:
>> On 23/07/2026 11:26 am, Ant wrote:
>>> Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>> On 23/07/2026 12:15 am, The Real Bev wrote:
>>>>> On 7/22/26 02:26, Daniel70 wrote:
>>>>>> On 22/07/2026 6:18 am, s|b wrote:
>>
>> <Snip>
>>
>>>>>>> I've got a 21" ASUS VS247 in front of me and on my left a 19" Acer
>>>>>>> AL1916W. You need to increase your real estate. ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Those of us who started out with a 9" b&w monitor are SOOOOO glad 
>>>>> things
>>>>> improved.
>>>>>> WHO?? ME?? Nah, what I've got (HP All-in-One Desktop 24-cr0xxx) is
>>>>>> WWWAAAAYYYY more than enough for my purposes .... even when I've got
>>>>>> (Three Tab) SM, FF and LibreOffice open (and that's about as heavy 
>>>>>> as my
>>>>>> Workload gets!! ;-) )
>>>>> My son bought a 45" hi-def TV to use as a monitor.
>>>
>>>> I upgraded from my 32 inch St-Def T.V. to a 40 inch Hi-Def T.V. maybe
>>>> twelve months ago cause all the T.V. chns were switching to Hi-Def.
>>>
>>>> I've still got the SD T.V. on the floor beside the H.D., cause it has a
>>>> DVD drive in it.
>>>
>>>> But THAT's for T.V., .... this Desktop Computer has, I think, a 24 inch
>>>> display .... which contains all the HD, etc., electronics WITH-IN the
>>>> Monitor.
>>>
>>> I finally switched from CRT SD to HD after I was evicted from my former
>>> nest during Labor Day 2014 weekend.
>>
>> Back in 2003 or 04, one of the local Supermarket chains (ALDI) had a
>> special for 32inch SD T.V. for just AU$250. My 26inch SD CRT T.V. was
>> still working but at that price ....!!
>>
>>> Then, I got a 22" HD monitor to
>>> replace my 1280x1024 monitor that had a flicky power switch.
>>>
>> I've still got my 15" HP 6720 Laptop on the same desk as my 24" Desktop.
>> Because the 24" has all the electronics behind the Screen, it is rather
>> unstable .... so I have the HP Laptop sitting on the 24" screens base
>> plate to give it a bit of stability.
> 
> Jesus, doesn't anyone use a REAL computer any more?  Tower case, 4 or 5 
> hard drives, a DVD drive, a REAL keyboard, a REAL mouse?  I only use my 
> laptop when I need to use windows -- once a year for taxes.  And I HAD a 
> win7 tower and KVM switch until the tax software no longer ran under 7. 
> I can still use the win7 if I need it, but I don't.

Mine is currently broken.

> 


-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.
        ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#17891 — Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? [OT]

On Thu, 23 Jul 2026 07:47:58 -0700, The Real Bev wrote:

> Jesus, doesn't anyone use a REAL computer any more?  Tower case, 4 or 5 
> hard drives, a DVD drive, a REAL keyboard, a REAL mouse?  I only use my 
> laptop when I need to use windows -- once a year for taxes.  And I HAD a 
> win7 tower and KVM switch until the tax software no longer ran under 7. 
> I can still use the win7 if I need it, but I don't.

I've got a tower* (or two). The one I'm using now has no CD/DVD (the old
one has) and it's got an NVMe SSD and 2 SATA SDD. I'm using a cordless
keyboard and cordless mouse.

They've given me a laptop to use as a volunteer and another to play with
Linux Mint, but I'll choose my tower over them.




*
<https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/pc-cases/cc-9011183-ww/110r-tempered-glass-mid-tower-atx-case-cc-9011183-ww>

Should have gotten a smaller one and even though I'm savvy enough to
move the CD/DVD from the old tower to his one I can't be bothered. The
power supply of the Corsair is situated at the bottom and the CD/DVD has
to be placed on top. I would need to buy a longer SATA cable and then
hide it behind the motherboard. Too much hassle and I hardly use the
CD/DVD anymore.

-- 
s|b

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#17892 — Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? [OT]

s|b wrote:

> The Real Bev wrote:
> 
>> a REAL keyboard, a REAL mouse?  
> > I'm using a cordless keyboard and cordless mouse.
I wasn't sure whether Bev distinguished "real" keyboards to be clacky, 
and real mice to not be trackpads?

I have several IBM model-M keyboards, but nowadays I like to have a 
Windows key available, so use a TKL mechanical keyboard instead, my 
rodent has no tail.

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#17901 — Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? [OT]

On Thu, 23 Jul 2026 19:18:50 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

> s|b wrote:
> 
>> The Real Bev wrote:
>> 
>>> a REAL keyboard, a REAL mouse?
>> > I'm using a cordless keyboard and cordless mouse.
> I wasn't sure whether Bev distinguished "real" keyboards to be clacky,
> and real mice to not be trackpads?
> 
> I have several IBM model-M keyboards, but nowadays I like to have a
> Windows key available, so use a TKL mechanical keyboard instead, my
> rodent has no tail.

Tactile feedback (for a keyboard) is good, but I'd rather not have the 
NOISE.

-- 
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"Church teachings are but fiction. I have knowledge of their inanity."
-- Leo Tolstoy (1828-1910)

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#17903 — Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? [OT]

On 7/23/26 11:18, Andy Burns wrote:
> s|b wrote:
> 
>> The Real Bev wrote:
>> 
>>> a REAL keyboard, a REAL mouse?  
>> > I'm using a cordless keyboard and cordless mouse.
> I wasn't sure whether Bev distinguished "real" keyboards to be clacky,
> and real mice to not be trackpads?

Yes and yes, although keyboard preferences are pretty personal.  I tried 
every one Micro Center had and didn't like any of them.  Clacky with 
some sort of light so I can see the number keys in super-dim light would 
be nice, but haven't seen anything yet that would make me happy.
> I have several IBM model-M keyboards, but nowadays I like to have a
> Windows key available, so use a TKL mechanical keyboard instead, my
> rodent has no tail.
Logitech tailless rodents rule, but they eventually die. No idea 
how/why, but they do. Takes several years. Tails are good if you are 
clumsy and knock the poor baby off the table onto the floor a lot, but 
they're otherwise a nuisance.  The first time I saw a trackpad (Fry's, 
El Segundo) I thought they were a really slick idea.  When I actually 
had to use one my opinion changed considerably.

I miss Fry's.

My previous Model M was a 1988 model and I still cry when I remember 
spilling coffee into it.  Current one is 1992 and I'm really careful 
about coffee.  I have maybe 2 more.
-- 
Cheers, Bev
  A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
  Q: Why is it such a bad thing?
  A: Top-posting.
  Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet?

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#17912 — Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? [OT]

On 25/07/2026 5:25 am, The Real Bev wrote:

<Snip>

> My previous Model M was a 1988 model and I still cry when I remember 
> spilling coffee into it.  Current one is 1992 and I'm really careful 
> about coffee.  I have maybe 2 more.

I Currently use a Desktop Computer. My previous one was a HP 6830b Laptop.

At one time, whilst using the HP, I spilt half a glass of Coke-a-Cola on 
it. So not Water but (acidic) Coke-a-Cola. It disabled the Keyboard and 
Scratch-Pad thingee, but not the actual computer innereds.

An External Keyboard and Mouse and the HP was off and working again.
-- 
Daniel70

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#17900 — Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? [OT]

On Thu, 23 Jul 2026 20:08:04 +0200, s|b wrote:

[snip]

> Should have gotten a smaller one and even though I'm savvy enough to
> move the CD/DVD from the old tower to his one I can't be bothered. The
> power supply of the Corsair is situated at the bottom and the CD/DVD has
> to be placed on top. I would need to buy a longer SATA cable and then
> hide it behind the motherboard. Too much hassle and I hardly use the
> CD/DVD anymore.

I have an external (USB) CD/DVD drive for those computers without one. 
Also, 3.5-inch floppy.

-- 
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"Church teachings are but fiction. I have knowledge of their inanity."
-- Leo Tolstoy (1828-1910)

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#17914 — Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? [OT]

On 24 Jul 2026 16:09:24 GMT, Mark Lloyd wrote:

> I have an external (USB) CD/DVD drive for those computers without one. 
> Also, 3.5-inch floppy.

Very high tech. (-:

-- 
s|b

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#17915 — Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? [OT]

On 7/25/26 06:40, s|b wrote:
> On 24 Jul 2026 16:09:24 GMT, Mark Lloyd wrote:
> 
>> I have an external (USB) CD/DVD drive for those computers without one. 
>> Also, 3.5-inch floppy.
> 
> Very high tech. (-:

You never can tell.  I still have 4 boxes of 50 virgin 3.5" floppies and 
hundreds with data.  No drive, but I bet I could find one if I really 
wanted one.  It was really painful sending off bales of long-obsolete 
stuff to the knackers, but we kept some of it...

-- 
Cheers, Bev
=========================================
"Welcome to Hell, here's your accordion."

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#17924 — OT (Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? ...)

The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 7/25/26 06:40, s|b wrote:
> > On 24 Jul 2026 16:09:24 GMT, Mark Lloyd wrote:
> > 
> >> I have an external (USB) CD/DVD drive for those computers without one. 
> >> Also, 3.5-inch floppy.
> > 
> > Very high tech. (-:

> You never can tell.  I still have 4 boxes of 50 virgin 3.5" floppies and 
> hundreds with data.  No drive, but I bet I could find one if I really 
> wanted one.  It was really painful sending off bales of long-obsolete 
> stuff to the knackers, but we kept some of it...

Like me. I still have old 3.5" disks and an internal drive in my Debian 
PC. Even 5.25" disk from Fire Hawk (Thexder 2) game, from Egghead 
Software (remember that place, guys?) that my folks kept. Haha. I did 
show them off to my young cousin and old friends for kicks.

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#17893

In article <113t9iu$3tidi$1@dont-email.me>,
   The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
[Snippy]
> Jesus, doesn't anyone use a REAL computer any more?  Tower case, 4 or 5 
> hard drives, a DVD drive, a REAL keyboard, a REAL mouse?  I only use my 
> laptop when I need to use windows -- once a year for taxes.  And I HAD a 
> win7 tower and KVM switch until the tax software no longer ran under 7. 
> I can still use the win7 if I need it, but I don't.

I do here...
Tower case, 2 Hard drives one of which is partitioned into 2 drives, and a
DVD drive.
Real mouse, real keyboard and a real monitor that in my dotage I can read,
albeit with reading glasses.  ;-)

Real software that's easy to navigate because it has proper menus.

As for Tablets and Smart phones... Don't get me started... :-/

D.

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#17899

On Thu, 23 Jul 2026 21:03:58 +0100, Dnews wrote:

[snip]

> As for Tablets and Smart phones... Don't get me started... :-/
> 
> D.

One of the bigger problems I notice with those  is the lack of hover and 
tooltips. The only way to find out what a "button" does is to press it, 
then hope there's a way to back out when you discover its the wrong one.

-- 
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"Church teachings are but fiction. I have knowledge of their inanity."
-- Leo Tolstoy (1828-1910)

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#17904

On 7/23/26 13:03, Dnews wrote:
> In article <113t9iu$3tidi$1@dont-email.me>,
>     The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
> [Snippy]
>> Jesus, doesn't anyone use a REAL computer any more?  Tower case, 4 or 5 
>> hard drives, a DVD drive, a REAL keyboard, a REAL mouse?  I only use my 
>> laptop when I need to use windows -- once a year for taxes.  And I HAD a 
>> win7 tower and KVM switch until the tax software no longer ran under 7. 
>> I can still use the win7 if I need it, but I don't.
> 
> I do here...
> Tower case, 2 Hard drives one of which is partitioned into 2 drives, and a
> DVD drive.
> Real mouse, real keyboard and a real monitor that in my dotage I can read,
> albeit with reading glasses.  ;-)
> 
> Real software that's easy to navigate because it has proper menus.

YESSSS to all that.  Although I really don't like hierarchical menus for 
stuff I don't use regularly -- trying to guess where a stranger wanted 
to put a particular item is maddening.  GIMP is about the best example 
of what I hate.
> As for Tablets and Smart phones... Don't get me started... :-/

Good for travel or emergencies.  Last trip (road trip, Utah big circle) 
we took I didn't bother with the laptop, the tablet was good enough. 
Daughter made the next night's reservation on her phone, though -- I 
would definitely have wanted a real computer to do that.

-- 
Cheers, Bev
  A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
  Q: Why is it such a bad thing?
  A: Top-posting.
  Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet?

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#17896

The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:

> Jesus, doesn't anyone use a REAL computer any more?  Tower case, 4 or 5 
> hard drives, a DVD drive, a REAL keyboard, a REAL mouse?  I only use my 
> laptop when I need to use windows -- once a year for taxes.  And I HAD a 
> win7 tower and KVM switch until the tax software no longer ran under 7. 
> I can still use the win7 if I need it, but I don't.

I still do since I rarely go out due to my disabilities. 
https://zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/about/MyComputerStuff.txt for my 
detailed setups. ;) Long live, the REAL computers. Oh and frak 
touchscreens, tiny screens, etc.
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#17905

On 7/23/26 18:20, Ant wrote:
> The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Jesus, doesn't anyone use a REAL computer any more?  Tower case, 4 or 5 
>> hard drives, a DVD drive, a REAL keyboard, a REAL mouse?  I only use my 
>> laptop when I need to use windows -- once a year for taxes.  And I HAD a 
>> win7 tower and KVM switch until the tax software no longer ran under 7. 
>> I can still use the win7 if I need it, but I don't.
> 
> I still do since I rarely go out due to my disabilities.
> https://zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/about/MyComputerStuff.txt for my
> detailed setups. ;) Long live, the REAL computers. Oh and frak
> touchscreens, tiny screens, etc.

Any chance you're the guy in the chair who had "I ride the big iron" as 
part of his .sig? Whatever group he was in is long gone...

-- 
Cheers, Bev
  A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
  Q: Why is it such a bad thing?
  A: Top-posting.
  Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet?

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#17906

The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 7/23/26 18:20, Ant wrote:
> > The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> Jesus, doesn't anyone use a REAL computer any more?  Tower case, 4 or 5 
> >> hard drives, a DVD drive, a REAL keyboard, a REAL mouse?  I only use my 
> >> laptop when I need to use windows -- once a year for taxes.  And I HAD a 
> >> win7 tower and KVM switch until the tax software no longer ran under 7. 
> >> I can still use the win7 if I need it, but I don't.
> > 
> > I still do since I rarely go out due to my disabilities.
> > https://zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/about/MyComputerStuff.txt for my
> > detailed setups. ;) Long live, the REAL computers. Oh and frak
> > touchscreens, tiny screens, etc.

> Any chance you're the guy in the chair who had "I ride the big iron" as 
> part of his .sig? Whatever group he was in is long gone...

Nope. Do you have that signature to show?
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#17916

On 7/24/26 18:43, Ant wrote:
> The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 7/23/26 18:20, Ant wrote:
>> > The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > 
>> >> Jesus, doesn't anyone use a REAL computer any more?  Tower case, 4 or 5 
>> >> hard drives, a DVD drive, a REAL keyboard, a REAL mouse?  I only use my 
>> >> laptop when I need to use windows -- once a year for taxes.  And I HAD a 
>> >> win7 tower and KVM switch until the tax software no longer ran under 7. 
>> >> I can still use the win7 if I need it, but I don't.
>> > 
>> > I still do since I rarely go out due to my disabilities.
>> > https://zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/about/MyComputerStuff.txt for my
>> > detailed setups. ;) Long live, the REAL computers. Oh and frak
>> > touchscreens, tiny screens, etc.
> 
>> Any chance you're the guy in the chair who had "I ride the big iron" as 
>> part of his .sig? Whatever group he was in is long gone...
> 
> Nope. Do you have that signature to show?

Long LONG gone, the oldest message I have is from 2024, and only about a 
dozen of them.  Steve VanDevender.  Google for "usenet sig "I ride the 
big iron" which is what I did.

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Cheers, Bev
=========================================
"Welcome to Hell, here's your accordion."

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#17917

On 7/25/26 07:26, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 7/24/26 18:43, Ant wrote:
>> The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 7/23/26 18:20, Ant wrote:
>>> > The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > 
>>> >> Jesus, doesn't anyone use a REAL computer any more?  Tower case, 4 or 5 
>>> >> hard drives, a DVD drive, a REAL keyboard, a REAL mouse?  I only use my 
>>> >> laptop when I need to use windows -- once a year for taxes.  And I HAD a 
>>> >> win7 tower and KVM switch until the tax software no longer ran under 7. 
>>> >> I can still use the win7 if I need it, but I don't.
>>> > 
>>> > I still do since I rarely go out due to my disabilities.
>>> > https://zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/about/MyComputerStuff.txt for my
>>> > detailed setups. ;) Long live, the REAL computers. Oh and frak
>>> > touchscreens, tiny screens, etc.
>> 
>>> Any chance you're the guy in the chair who had "I ride the big iron" as 
>>> part of his .sig? Whatever group he was in is long gone...
>> 
>> Nope. Do you have that signature to show?
> 
> Long LONG gone, the oldest message I have is from 2024, and only about a
> dozen of them.  Steve VanDevender.  Google for "usenet sig "I ride the
> big iron" which is what I did.

Addendum:  Further search revealed <https://www.cluefire.net/> with a 
list of really clever comments from the really clever people in a.s.r. 
which I read just because there were so many smart posters that it was a 
joy to read.

We've lost a lot.

-- 
Cheers, Bev
=========================================
"Welcome to Hell, here's your accordion."

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#17920

On 7/25/26 09:38, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 7/25/26 07:26, The Real Bev wrote:
>> On 7/24/26 18:43, Ant wrote:
>>> The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 7/23/26 18:20, Ant wrote:
>>>> > The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > >> Jesus, doesn't anyone use a REAL computer any more?  Tower 
>>>> case, 4 or 5 >> hard drives, a DVD drive, a REAL keyboard, a REAL 
>>>> mouse?  I only use my >> laptop when I need to use windows -- once a 
>>>> year for taxes.  And I HAD a >> win7 tower and KVM switch until the 
>>>> tax software no longer ran under 7. >> I can still use the win7 if I 
>>>> need it, but I don't.
>>>> > > I still do since I rarely go out due to my disabilities.
>>>> > https://zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/about/MyComputerStuff.txt for my
>>>> > detailed setups. ;) Long live, the REAL computers. Oh and frak
>>>> > touchscreens, tiny screens, etc.
>>>
>>>> Any chance you're the guy in the chair who had "I ride the big iron" 
>>>> as part of his .sig? Whatever group he was in is long gone...
>>>
>>> Nope. Do you have that signature to show?
>>
>> Long LONG gone, the oldest message I have is from 2024, and only about a
>> dozen of them.  Steve VanDevender.  Google for "usenet sig "I ride the
>> big iron" which is what I did.
> 
> Addendum:  Further search revealed <https://www.cluefire.net/> with a 
> list of really clever comments from the really clever people in a.s.r. 
> which I read just because there were so many smart posters that it was a 
> joy to read.
> 
> We've lost a lot.
> 
a.s.r.

Historical Context

     alt.sysadmin.recovery: Formed as a satirical and peer-support haven 
for IT professionals dealing with computer and network failures.

     alt.sex.reptiles: An eccentric early alt-hierarchy group that 
paradoxically overlapped heavily with early internet culture and 
literary fan groups.

     alt.starfleet.rpg: Widely abbreviated as ASR by its community of 
writers engaging in collaborative Star Trek roleplaying.

?

Rinaldi
-- 
Cogito, ergo dubito

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