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  When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2026-07-20 01:02 +0000
    Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2026-07-19 22:10 -0400
      Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-07-20 07:50 +0100
    Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-07-20 03:31 +0100
    Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-20 17:24 +0200
    Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? Nobody <jock@soccer.com> - 2026-07-20 08:37 -0700
      Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-07-20 10:01 -0700
        Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? Nobody <jock@soccer.com> - 2026-07-20 10:37 -0700
        Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-07-21 19:26 +1000
          Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-07-21 10:52 +0100
            Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-07-21 22:54 +1000
              Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-07-21 08:03 -0700
            Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-21 22:22 +0200
          Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-21 22:18 +0200
            Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-07-22 19:26 +1000
              Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-07-22 07:15 -0700
                Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-07-23 00:31 +1000
                  Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2026-07-23 01:26 +0000
                    Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-07-23 20:13 +1000
                      Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-07-23 07:47 -0700
                        Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-07-23 16:22 +0100
                        Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-23 18:50 +0200
                        Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? [OT] "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-23 20:08 +0200
                          Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? [OT] Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-07-23 19:18 +0100
                            Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? [OT] Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2026-07-24 16:10 +0000
                            Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? [OT] The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-07-24 12:25 -0700
                              Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? [OT] Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-07-25 19:56 +1000
                          Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? [OT] Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2026-07-24 16:09 +0000
                            Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? [OT] "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-25 15:40 +0200
                              Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? [OT] The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-07-25 07:18 -0700
                                OT (Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? ...) ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2026-07-26 05:48 +0000
                        Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-07-23 21:03 +0100
                          Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2026-07-24 15:49 +0000
                          Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-07-24 12:30 -0700
                        Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2026-07-24 01:20 +0000
                          Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-07-24 12:33 -0700
                            Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2026-07-25 01:43 +0000
                              Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-07-25 07:26 -0700
                                Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-07-25 07:38 -0700
                                  Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? "Rinaldi J. Montessi" <rinaldij@alien.free> - 2026-07-25 12:08 -0500
                                    Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-07-26 09:49 -0700
                            Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-07-25 20:03 +1000
                              OT (Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)?) ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2026-07-26 05:41 +0000
                              Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-07-26 15:28 +0100
                                Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2026-07-27 00:30 +0000
    Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? SpallsHurgenson(NG) <user14325@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-07-20 17:01 +0000
      Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2026-07-20 22:54 +0000
    Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-20 22:09 +0200
    Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2026-07-20 17:53 -0400
      Re: When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-21 22:23 +0200

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#17814 — When do you usually update your non-ESR Firefox web browser(s)?

Do you update right away? Wait a few hours, days, or weeks? I think I am 
going to delay my immediate updates by a few days for now on since 
Mozilla keeps releasing too many updates (e.g., v152.0.x) these days.  
Yes, I can get and use ESR but I want the newer features and not right 
away. I want to wait a little bit before doing upgrades.

Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)
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#17815

On 07/19/2026 9:02 PM, Ant wrote:
> Do you update right away? Wait a few hours, days, or weeks? I think I am
> going to delay my immediate updates by a few days for now on since
> Mozilla keeps releasing too many updates (e.g., v152.0.x) these days.
> Yes, I can get and use ESR but I want the newer features and not right
> away. I want to wait a little bit before doing upgrades.
> 
> Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)
I update when available. In the many years I have used FireFox I have 
only regreted it a couple of times and all had to do when the tabs 
toolbar was moved above the address away from the page that it was 
associated with.

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#17820

In article <113k03i$rpnm$1@dont-email.me>,
   knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 07/19/2026 9:02 PM, Ant wrote:
> > Do you update right away? Wait a few hours, days, or weeks? I think I
> > am going to delay my immediate updates by a few days for now on since
> > Mozilla keeps releasing too many updates (e.g., v152.0.x) these days.
> > Yes, I can get and use ESR but I want the newer features and not right
> > away. I want to wait a little bit before doing upgrades.
> > 
> > Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)

> I update when available. In the many years I have used FireFox I have 
> only regreted it a couple of times and all had to do when the tabs 
> toolbar was moved above the address away from the page that it was 
> associated with.

Here, also a very long time user of Firefox, I update when I get the auto
message that an update is available.

I have "Check for updates, but choose when to install." ticked On.

My main PITA as knuttle notes, is when they do something that FU., my
preference of having the Tabs below the toolbars.  :-/

Wasting time again, fiddling with the chrome - userChrome.css file to get
it back below again.

I see in the Configs, they've added the ability to have Vertical tabs,
which as far as I'm concerned is a waste of coding space.

Why don't they just add a setting for Tabs below the tool bars... 
FW... (That's an expletive).

D.

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#17816

Ant wrote:

> Do you update right away? Wait a few hours, days, or weeks? I think I am
> going to delay my immediate updates by a few days for now on since
> Mozilla keeps releasing too many updates (e.g., v152.0.x) these days.
> Yes, I can get and use ESR but I want the newer features and not right
> away. I want to wait a little bit before doing upgrades.
My personal machine, I usually take releases straight away;
but on my work machine, I'm never in a rush.

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#17822

On Mon, 20 Jul 2026 01:02:43 -0000 (UTC), Ant wrote:

> Do you update right away? Wait a few hours, days, or weeks? I think I am 
> going to delay my immediate updates by a few days for now on since 
> Mozilla keeps releasing too many updates (e.g., v152.0.x) these days.  
> Yes, I can get and use ESR but I want the newer features and not right 
> away. I want to wait a little bit before doing upgrades.

Right away. Never got me into any trouble.

-- 
s|b

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#17823

On Mon, 20 Jul 2026 01:02:43 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
wrote:

>Do you update right away? Wait a few hours, days, or weeks? I think I am 
>going to delay my immediate updates by a few days for now on since 
>Mozilla keeps releasing too many updates (e.g., v152.0.x) these days.  
>Yes, I can get and use ESR but I want the newer features and not right 
>away. I want to wait a little bit before doing upgrades.

As soon as the nag appears... it's interesting that a couple of other
responders mention 'Tabs on Bottom' as that's the way I run mine too,
and really the only major snafu which might re-appear when an update
interferes with my userChrome.

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#17825

On 7/20/26 08:37, Nobody wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Jul 2026 01:02:43 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
> wrote:
> 
>>Do you update right away? Wait a few hours, days, or weeks? I think I am 
>>going to delay my immediate updates by a few days for now on since 
>>Mozilla keeps releasing too many updates (e.g., v152.0.x) these days.  
>>Yes, I can get and use ESR but I want the newer features and not right 
>>away. I want to wait a little bit before doing upgrades.

Every few years, but nearly a decade for Thunderbird.  Previous updates 
eliminated valuable features in exchange for nothing that I found better 
than what I'd lost.  Running FF 150 and TB 139 right now.  Updated both 
unwillingly and have no plans to update again without some sort of 
compulsion.
> As soon as the nag appears... it's interesting that a couple of other
> responders mention 'Tabs on Bottom' as that's the way I run mine too,
> and really the only major snafu which might re-appear when an update
> interferes with my userChrome.

Monitors are wide.  How can you NOT put the tabs at the side?  We don't 
need all that horizontal space for most uses and if you have ~30 tabs 
you can't read the titles unless they're at the side.

-- 
Cheers, Bev
     "I'm sorry I ever invented the Electoral College."
                                     Al Gore 11/08/00

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#17827

On Mon, 20 Jul 2026 10:01:00 -0700, The Real Bev
<bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 7/20/26 08:37, Nobody wrote:
>> On Mon, 20 Jul 2026 01:02:43 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
>> wrote:
>> 
>>>Do you update right away? Wait a few hours, days, or weeks? I think I am 
>>>going to delay my immediate updates by a few days for now on since 
>>>Mozilla keeps releasing too many updates (e.g., v152.0.x) these days.  
>>>Yes, I can get and use ESR but I want the newer features and not right 
>>>away. I want to wait a little bit before doing upgrades.

>
>Every few years, but nearly a decade for Thunderbird.  Previous updates 
>eliminated valuable features in exchange for nothing that I found better 
>than what I'd lost.  Running FF 150 and TB 139 right now.  Updated both 
>unwillingly and have no plans to update again without some sort of 
>compulsion.

And don't we all know...

>> As soon as the nag appears... it's interesting that a couple of other
>> responders mention 'Tabs on Bottom' as that's the way I run mine too,
>> and really the only major snafu which might re-appear when an update
>> interferes with my userChrome.

>
>Monitors are wide.  How can you NOT put the tabs at the side?  

You expect others to appreciate your barrage of nigglings... so mebbe
accept that some also wish to have "just a single" idiosyncratic
feature?

In the meantime, Ffox 152.0.6 works Just Peachily, merci.

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#17846

On 21/07/2026 3:01 am, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 7/20/26 08:37, Nobody wrote:
>> On Mon, 20 Jul 2026 01:02:43 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Do you update right away? Wait a few hours, days, or weeks? I think I 
>>> am going to delay my immediate updates by a few days for now on since 
>>> Mozilla keeps releasing too many updates (e.g., v152.0.x) these days. 
>>> Yes, I can get and use ESR but I want the newer features and not 
>>> right away. I want to wait a little bit before doing upgrades.
> 
> Every few years, but nearly a decade for Thunderbird.  Previous updates 
> eliminated valuable features in exchange for nothing that I found better 
> than what I'd lost.  Running FF 150 and TB 139 right now.  Updated both 
> unwillingly and have no plans to update again without some sort of 
> compulsion.
>> As soon as the nag appears... it's interesting that a couple of other
>> responders mention 'Tabs on Bottom' as that's the way I run mine too,
>> and really the only major snafu which might re-appear when an update
>> interferes with my userChrome.
> 
> Monitors are wide.  How can you NOT put the tabs at the side?  We don't 
> need all that horizontal space for most uses and if you have ~30 tabs 
> you can't read the titles unless they're at the side.
> 
Sorry! WHAT??

My Monitor is, maybe, 15 inches wide and 10 inches high (but don't quote 
me). (I have my SM Browser screen set to about 12 inches wide but 
Mail&News and IRC screens set to about 10 inches wide.)

If I have 30 tabs across the bottom (not gunna happen!), each tab would 
be about half an inch wide. If I had 30 tabs down a side, each tab would 
be about a third of an inch deep.

Or does putting them down a side allow for multiple columns .... just as 
I think you can have multiply rows across the bottom.
-- 
Daniel70

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#17849

Daniel70 wrote:

> The Real Bev wrote:
>
>> Monitors are wide.  How can you NOT put the tabs at the side?  
>
> Sorry! WHAT??
> 
> My Monitor is, maybe, 15 inches wide and 10 inches high (but don't quote 
> me). (I have my SM Browser screen set to about 12 inches wide but 
> Mail&News and IRC screens set to about 10 inches wide.)
> 
> If I have 30 tabs across the bottom (not gunna happen!), each tab would 
> be about half an inch wide. If I had 30 tabs down a side, each tab would 
> be about a third of an inch deep.

You misunderstand, the tab contents are full height of the firefox 
window, it's just a vertical list of tab titles down one edge (I refer 
right hand side) and it scrolls vertically when you have lots of tabs, 
you can adjust the width so the titles are not truncated to death.

Try it, you might like it ...

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#17853

On 21/07/2026 7:52 pm, Andy Burns wrote:
> Daniel70 wrote:
>> The Real Bev wrote:
>>
>>> Monitors are wide.  How can you NOT put the tabs at the side? 
>>
>> Sorry! WHAT??
>>
>> My Monitor is, maybe, 15 inches wide and 10 inches high (but don't 
>> quote me). (I have my SM Browser screen set to about 12 inches wide 
>> but Mail&News and IRC screens set to about 10 inches wide.)
>>
>> If I have 30 tabs across the bottom (not gunna happen!), each tab 
>> would be about half an inch wide. If I had 30 tabs down a side, each 
>> tab would be about a third of an inch deep.
> 
> You misunderstand, the tab contents are full height of the firefox 
> window, it's just a vertical list of tab titles down one edge (I refer 
> right hand side) and it scrolls vertically when you have lots of tabs, 
> you can adjust the width so the titles are not truncated to death.

Ah! O.K., so the listing is more than one screens height AND you can 
scroll to see the undisplayed one.
> 
> Try it, you might like it ...
> 
I rarely have more then, maybe, six tabs open, so don't see the 
advantage. I seem to recall that FF (or was it SM) could achieve several 
rows to Tabs across the bottom of the screen. I don't know if this could 
happen Vertically as well.
-- 
Daniel70

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#17858

On 7/21/26 05:54, Daniel70 wrote:
> On 21/07/2026 7:52 pm, Andy Burns wrote:
>> Daniel70 wrote:
>>> The Real Bev wrote:
>>>
>>>> Monitors are wide.  How can you NOT put the tabs at the side? 
>>>
>>> Sorry! WHAT??
>>>
>>> My Monitor is, maybe, 15 inches wide and 10 inches high (but don't 
>>> quote me). (I have my SM Browser screen set to about 12 inches wide 
>>> but Mail&News and IRC screens set to about 10 inches wide.)
>>>
>>> If I have 30 tabs across the bottom (not gunna happen!), each tab 
>>> would be about half an inch wide. If I had 30 tabs down a side, each 
>>> tab would be about a third of an inch deep.
>> 
>> You misunderstand, the tab contents are full height of the firefox 
>> window, it's just a vertical list of tab titles down one edge (I refer 
>> right hand side) and it scrolls vertically when you have lots of tabs, 
>> you can adjust the width so the titles are not truncated to death.
> 
> Ah! O.K., so the listing is more than one screens height AND you can
> scroll to see the undisplayed one.
>> 
>> Try it, you might like it ...

YESSS!
> I rarely have more then, maybe, six tabs open, so don't see the
> advantage. I seem to recall that FF (or was it SM) could achieve several
> rows to Tabs across the bottom of the screen. I don't know if this could
> happen Vertically as well.

Perhaps things are different with laptops, but I have a 27" monitor and 
crappy vision.  I use my laptop only when I have to.  BUT... Since you 
can scroll the list of tabs (and indentations and collapses are 
possible) there's no need for more than one column. I rarely have more 
than 30 tabs (which will fit without scrolling) and that's just because 
I didn't close some when I was done.  Chrome has vertical-tab add-ons, 
but they're not all that functional while being annoying, so I put up 
with the horizontal ones -- I rarely need to use Chrome anyway, so it's 
not that big a nuisance.

FF offers a native vertical-tab option now, but I haven't tried it. I've 
spent a lot of time tweaking my Tree Tabs extension and don't want to 
take a chance that might screw it up.

-- 
Cheers, Bev
    Warning -- Driver carries less than $20 worth of ammunition

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#17863

On Tue, 21 Jul 2026 10:52:34 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

> You misunderstand, the tab contents are full height of the firefox 
> window, it's just a vertical list of tab titles down one edge (I refer 
> right hand side) and it scrolls vertically when you have lots of tabs, 
> you can adjust the width so the titles are not truncated to death.
> 
> Try it, you might like it ...

I'm going to give it a try...

-- 
s|b

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#17862

On Tue, 21 Jul 2026 19:26:00 +1000, Daniel70 wrote:


> On 21/07/2026 3:01 am, The Real Bev wrote:
>
> > Monitors are wide.  How can you NOT put the tabs at the side?  We don't 
> > need all that horizontal space for most uses and if you have ~30 tabs 
> > you can't read the titles unless they're at the side.

> Sorry! WHAT??
> 
> My Monitor is, maybe, 15 inches wide and 10 inches high (but don't quote 
> me). (I have my SM Browser screen set to about 12 inches wide but 
> Mail&News and IRC screens set to about 10 inches wide.)
8< snip >8

I've got a 21" ASUS VS247 in front of me and on my left a 19" Acer
AL1916W. You need to increase your real estate. ;-)

-- 
s|b

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#17868

On 22/07/2026 6:18 am, s|b wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Jul 2026 19:26:00 +1000, Daniel70 wrote:
>> On 21/07/2026 3:01 am, The Real Bev wrote:
>>
>>> Monitors are wide.  How can you NOT put the tabs at the side?  We don't
>>> need all that horizontal space for most uses and if you have ~30 tabs
>>> you can't read the titles unless they're at the side.
> 
>> Sorry! WHAT??
>>
>> My Monitor is, maybe, 15 inches wide and 10 inches high (but don't quote
>> me). (I have my SM Browser screen set to about 12 inches wide but
>> Mail&News and IRC screens set to about 10 inches wide.)
> 8< snip >8
> 
> I've got a 21" ASUS VS247 in front of me and on my left a 19" Acer
> AL1916W. You need to increase your real estate. ;-)
> 
WHO?? ME?? Nah, what I've got (HP All-in-One Desktop 24-cr0xxx) is 
WWWAAAAYYYY more than enough for my purposes .... even when I've got 
(Three Tab) SM, FF and LibreOffice open (and that's about as heavy as my 
Workload gets!! ;-) )

Oh! Hang on. Almost forgot 'Solitaire and Casual Games' open ... but 
that's usually after I've closed all the other stuff and turned Wi-Fi Off.
-- 
Daniel70

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#17870

On 7/22/26 02:26, Daniel70 wrote:
> On 22/07/2026 6:18 am, s|b wrote:
>> On Tue, 21 Jul 2026 19:26:00 +1000, Daniel70 wrote:
>>> On 21/07/2026 3:01 am, The Real Bev wrote:
>>>
>>>> Monitors are wide.  How can you NOT put the tabs at the side?  We don't
>>>> need all that horizontal space for most uses and if you have ~30 tabs
>>>> you can't read the titles unless they're at the side.
>> 
>>> Sorry! WHAT??
>>>
>>> My Monitor is, maybe, 15 inches wide and 10 inches high (but don't quote
>>> me). (I have my SM Browser screen set to about 12 inches wide but
>>> Mail&News and IRC screens set to about 10 inches wide.)
>> 8< snip >8
>> 
>> I've got a 21" ASUS VS247 in front of me and on my left a 19" Acer
>> AL1916W. You need to increase your real estate. ;-)

Those of us who started out with a 9" b&w monitor are SOOOOO glad things 
improved.
> WHO?? ME?? Nah, what I've got (HP All-in-One Desktop 24-cr0xxx) is
> WWWAAAAYYYY more than enough for my purposes .... even when I've got
> (Three Tab) SM, FF and LibreOffice open (and that's about as heavy as my
> Workload gets!! ;-) )
My son bought a 45" hi-def TV to use as a monitor.  I envy that he has 
little windows open (mostly a lot of xterms) for everything he's doing 
without shifting screens (I have 4 virtual screens that I can flip 
between just by moving my mouse to the appropriate edge) but the need to 
constantly keep moving my head around is off-putting.  He tried to force 
a 33" on me, but that was too big.

I have TB in one screen, FF in another, sometimes Chrome in the third, 
and the 4th is open for whatever other thing -- mostly Picasa -- that I 
might want to do. NOT full-screen, I want the option to move things 
around and resize on the fly. I pop up xterms as needed. Life is good.

-- 
Cheers, Bev
     "...so she told me it was either her or the ham radio, over."

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#17871

On 23/07/2026 12:15 am, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 7/22/26 02:26, Daniel70 wrote:
>> On 22/07/2026 6:18 am, s|b wrote:
>>> On Tue, 21 Jul 2026 19:26:00 +1000, Daniel70 wrote:
>>>> On 21/07/2026 3:01 am, The Real Bev wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Monitors are wide.  How can you NOT put the tabs at the side?  We 
>>>>> don't
>>>>> need all that horizontal space for most uses and if you have ~30 tabs
>>>>> you can't read the titles unless they're at the side.
>>>
>>>> Sorry! WHAT??
>>>>
>>>> My Monitor is, maybe, 15 inches wide and 10 inches high (but don't 
>>>> quote
>>>> me). (I have my SM Browser screen set to about 12 inches wide but
>>>> Mail&News and IRC screens set to about 10 inches wide.)
>>> 8< snip >8
>>>
>>> I've got a 21" ASUS VS247 in front of me and on my left a 19" Acer
>>> AL1916W. You need to increase your real estate. ;-)
> 
> Those of us who started out with a 9" b&w monitor are SOOOOO glad things 
> improved.
>> WHO?? ME?? Nah, what I've got (HP All-in-One Desktop 24-cr0xxx) is
>> WWWAAAAYYYY more than enough for my purposes .... even when I've got
>> (Three Tab) SM, FF and LibreOffice open (and that's about as heavy as my
>> Workload gets!! ;-) )
> My son bought a 45" hi-def TV to use as a monitor.

I upgraded from my 32 inch St-Def T.V. to a 40 inch Hi-Def T.V. maybe 
twelve months ago cause all the T.V. chns were switching to Hi-Def.

I've still got the SD T.V. on the floor beside the H.D., cause it has a 
DVD drive in it.

But THAT's for T.V., .... this Desktop Computer has, I think, a 24 inch 
display .... which contains all the HD, etc., electronics WITH-IN the 
Monitor.

-- 
Daniel70

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#17881

Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> On 23/07/2026 12:15 am, The Real Bev wrote:
> > On 7/22/26 02:26, Daniel70 wrote:
> >> On 22/07/2026 6:18 am, s|b wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 21 Jul 2026 19:26:00 +1000, Daniel70 wrote:
> >>>> On 21/07/2026 3:01 am, The Real Bev wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Monitors are wide.  How can you NOT put the tabs at the side?  We 
> >>>>> don't
> >>>>> need all that horizontal space for most uses and if you have ~30 tabs
> >>>>> you can't read the titles unless they're at the side.
> >>>
> >>>> Sorry! WHAT??
> >>>>
> >>>> My Monitor is, maybe, 15 inches wide and 10 inches high (but don't 
> >>>> quote
> >>>> me). (I have my SM Browser screen set to about 12 inches wide but
> >>>> Mail&News and IRC screens set to about 10 inches wide.)
> >>> 8< snip >8
> >>>
> >>> I've got a 21" ASUS VS247 in front of me and on my left a 19" Acer
> >>> AL1916W. You need to increase your real estate. ;-)
> > 
> > Those of us who started out with a 9" b&w monitor are SOOOOO glad things 
> > improved.
> >> WHO?? ME?? Nah, what I've got (HP All-in-One Desktop 24-cr0xxx) is
> >> WWWAAAAYYYY more than enough for my purposes .... even when I've got
> >> (Three Tab) SM, FF and LibreOffice open (and that's about as heavy as my
> >> Workload gets!! ;-) )
> > My son bought a 45" hi-def TV to use as a monitor.

> I upgraded from my 32 inch St-Def T.V. to a 40 inch Hi-Def T.V. maybe 
> twelve months ago cause all the T.V. chns were switching to Hi-Def.

> I've still got the SD T.V. on the floor beside the H.D., cause it has a 
> DVD drive in it.

> But THAT's for T.V., .... this Desktop Computer has, I think, a 24 inch 
> display .... which contains all the HD, etc., electronics WITH-IN the 
> Monitor.

I finally switched from CRT SD to HD after I was evicted from my former 
nest during Labor Day 2014 weekend.  Then, I got a 22" HD monitor to 
replace my 1280x1024 monitor that had a flicky power switch.
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#17886

On 23/07/2026 11:26 am, Ant wrote:
> Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> On 23/07/2026 12:15 am, The Real Bev wrote:
>>> On 7/22/26 02:26, Daniel70 wrote:
>>>> On 22/07/2026 6:18 am, s|b wrote:

<Snip>

>>>>> I've got a 21" ASUS VS247 in front of me and on my left a 19" Acer
>>>>> AL1916W. You need to increase your real estate. ;-)
>>>
>>> Those of us who started out with a 9" b&w monitor are SOOOOO glad things
>>> improved.
>>>> WHO?? ME?? Nah, what I've got (HP All-in-One Desktop 24-cr0xxx) is
>>>> WWWAAAAYYYY more than enough for my purposes .... even when I've got
>>>> (Three Tab) SM, FF and LibreOffice open (and that's about as heavy as my
>>>> Workload gets!! ;-) )
>>> My son bought a 45" hi-def TV to use as a monitor.
> 
>> I upgraded from my 32 inch St-Def T.V. to a 40 inch Hi-Def T.V. maybe
>> twelve months ago cause all the T.V. chns were switching to Hi-Def.
> 
>> I've still got the SD T.V. on the floor beside the H.D., cause it has a
>> DVD drive in it.
> 
>> But THAT's for T.V., .... this Desktop Computer has, I think, a 24 inch
>> display .... which contains all the HD, etc., electronics WITH-IN the
>> Monitor.
> 
> I finally switched from CRT SD to HD after I was evicted from my former
> nest during Labor Day 2014 weekend.

Back in 2003 or 04, one of the local Supermarket chains (ALDI) had a 
special for 32inch SD T.V. for just AU$250. My 26inch SD CRT T.V. was 
still working but at that price ....!!

> Then, I got a 22" HD monitor to
> replace my 1280x1024 monitor that had a flicky power switch.
> 
I've still got my 15" HP 6720 Laptop on the same desk as my 24" Desktop. 
Because the 24" has all the electronics behind the Screen, it is rather 
unstable .... so I have the HP Laptop sitting on the 24" screens base 
plate to give it a bit of stability.
-- 
Daniel70

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#17888

On 7/23/26 03:13, Daniel70 wrote:
> On 23/07/2026 11:26 am, Ant wrote:
>> Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>> On 23/07/2026 12:15 am, The Real Bev wrote:
>>>> On 7/22/26 02:26, Daniel70 wrote:
>>>>> On 22/07/2026 6:18 am, s|b wrote:
> 
> <Snip>
> 
>>>>>> I've got a 21" ASUS VS247 in front of me and on my left a 19" Acer
>>>>>> AL1916W. You need to increase your real estate. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Those of us who started out with a 9" b&w monitor are SOOOOO glad things
>>>> improved.
>>>>> WHO?? ME?? Nah, what I've got (HP All-in-One Desktop 24-cr0xxx) is
>>>>> WWWAAAAYYYY more than enough for my purposes .... even when I've got
>>>>> (Three Tab) SM, FF and LibreOffice open (and that's about as heavy as my
>>>>> Workload gets!! ;-) )
>>>> My son bought a 45" hi-def TV to use as a monitor.
>> 
>>> I upgraded from my 32 inch St-Def T.V. to a 40 inch Hi-Def T.V. maybe
>>> twelve months ago cause all the T.V. chns were switching to Hi-Def.
>> 
>>> I've still got the SD T.V. on the floor beside the H.D., cause it has a
>>> DVD drive in it.
>> 
>>> But THAT's for T.V., .... this Desktop Computer has, I think, a 24 inch
>>> display .... which contains all the HD, etc., electronics WITH-IN the
>>> Monitor.
>> 
>> I finally switched from CRT SD to HD after I was evicted from my former
>> nest during Labor Day 2014 weekend.
> 
> Back in 2003 or 04, one of the local Supermarket chains (ALDI) had a
> special for 32inch SD T.V. for just AU$250. My 26inch SD CRT T.V. was
> still working but at that price ....!!
> 
>> Then, I got a 22" HD monitor to
>> replace my 1280x1024 monitor that had a flicky power switch.
>> 
> I've still got my 15" HP 6720 Laptop on the same desk as my 24" Desktop.
> Because the 24" has all the electronics behind the Screen, it is rather
> unstable .... so I have the HP Laptop sitting on the 24" screens base
> plate to give it a bit of stability.

Jesus, doesn't anyone use a REAL computer any more?  Tower case, 4 or 5 
hard drives, a DVD drive, a REAL keyboard, a REAL mouse?  I only use my 
laptop when I need to use windows -- once a year for taxes.  And I HAD a 
win7 tower and KVM switch until the tax software no longer ran under 7. 
I can still use the win7 if I need it, but I don't.

-- 
Cheers, Bev
       A man's got to know his limitations.
       It's a woman's duty to make sure of this.

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