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  Filtering Eejits Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-07-12 09:25 +0100
    Re: Filtering Eejits Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-12 08:29 +0000
    Re: Filtering Eejits "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2026-07-12 11:16 +0200
      Re: Filtering Eejits "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2026-07-12 04:07 -0700
        Re: Filtering Eejits "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2026-07-12 14:01 +0200
          Re: Filtering Eejits Dave <dnews@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-07-12 21:01 +0100
            Re: Filtering Eejits "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2026-07-12 23:02 +0200
              Re: Filtering Eejits "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-07-12 21:51 +0000
                Re: Filtering Eejits "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2026-07-13 07:40 +0200
                  Re: Filtering Eejits "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-07-13 06:04 +0000
                    Re: Filtering Eejits "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2026-07-13 08:17 +0200
                      Re: Filtering Eejits "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-07-13 09:00 +0000
                        Re: Filtering Eejits "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2026-07-13 12:20 +0200
                        Re: Filtering Eejits "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-13 18:02 +0200
                          Re: Filtering Eejits Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-07-13 19:32 +0100
                            Re: Filtering Eejits "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2026-07-13 21:35 +0200
                          Re: Filtering Eejits "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-07-13 18:36 +0000
                            Re: Filtering Eejits "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2026-07-13 21:32 +0200
                            Re: Filtering Eejits "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2026-07-13 21:49 +0200
                              Re: Filtering Eejits "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-13 23:07 +0200
                                Re: Filtering Eejits "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-14 16:32 +0200
                                  Re: Filtering Eejit "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-14 19:39 +0200
                                    Re: Filtering Eejit "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-14 19:55 +0200
                                      Re: Filtering Eejit "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-14 20:08 +0200
                                        Re: Filtering Eejits Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-28 23:02 +0000
                                      Re: Filtering Eejit Nobody <jock@soccer.com> - 2026-07-14 12:52 -0700
                                        Re: Filtering Eejit "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-14 23:15 +0200
                                          Re: Filtering Eejit Nobody <jock@soccer.com> - 2026-07-14 15:53 -0700
                                            Re: Filtering Eejit Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-07-15 21:00 +1000
                                            Re: Filtering Eejit "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-15 13:37 +0200
                                              Re: Filtering Eejit Nobody <jock@soccer.com> - 2026-07-15 08:44 -0700
                                                Re: Filtering Eejit dillinger <dillinger@not.invalid> - 2026-07-15 18:13 +0200
                                                  Re: Filtering Eejit Nobody <jock@soccer.com> - 2026-07-15 10:06 -0700
                                                  Re: Filtering Eejit "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-15 20:59 +0200
                                        Re: Filtering Eejit "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-15 17:35 +0200
                              Re: Filtering Eejits Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-07-14 07:45 +0100
            Re: Filtering Eejits "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-12 23:10 +0200
        Re: Filtering Eejits Mr Xi Ji Ping <ping@china.cn> - 2026-07-12 17:15 +0100
    Re: Filtering Eejits "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-12 13:49 +0200
    Re: Filtering Eejits "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-12 14:13 +0200
      Re: Filtering Eejits dillinger <dillinger@not.invalid> - 2026-07-12 19:21 +0200
        Re: Filtering Eejits "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-12 22:20 +0200
    Re: Filtering Eejits <-- Islam? Muslim? Holy Curse? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-07-12 21:00 +0800
      Re: Filtering Eejits <-- Islam? Muslim? Holy Curse? Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-07-12 21:05 +0100
        Re: Filtering Eejits <-- Islam? Muslim? Holy Curse? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-13 02:53 +0000
          Re: Filtering Eejits <-- Islam? Muslim? Holy Curse? Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-07-13 12:03 +0100
        Re: Filtering Eejits <-- Islam? Muslim? Holy Curse? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-07-14 01:26 +0800
          Re: Filtering Eejits <-- Islam? Muslim? Holy Curse? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-07-13 18:50 +0000
            Re: Filtering Eejits <-- Islam? Muslim? Holy Curse? Jack Lemmon <Jack.Lemmon@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-14 07:00 +0100
          Filtering Eejits <-- Islam? Muslim? Holy Curse? Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-07-14 08:13 +0100
            Re: Filtering Eejits <-- Islam? Muslim? Holy Curse? Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-07-14 21:19 +1000
            Re: Filtering Eejits <-- Islam? Muslim? Holy Curse? R Daneel Olivaw <Danni@hyperspace.vogon.gov.invalid> - 2026-07-29 14:55 +0200
    Re: Filtering Eejits "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-07-12 21:02 +0800

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#17761

On Mon, 13 Jul 2026 23:07:25 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:

> On 2026-07-13 21:49, R.Wieser wrote:
>
> > Yes, its confusing.  My newsgroup reader - and I expect quite a number of
> > others - doesn't show email addresses. 
 
> Mine does.

In Forté Agent, I can choose to show the e-mailaddress or not. I've
chosen not to, because the Message List Pane becomes cluttered.

-- 
s|b

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#17770 — Re: Filtering Eejit

On 2026-07-14 16:32, s|b wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Jul 2026 23:07:25 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> 
>> On 2026-07-13 21:49, R.Wieser wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, its confusing.  My newsgroup reader - and I expect quite a number of
>>> others - doesn't show email addresses.
>   
>> Mine does.
> 
> In Forté Agent, I can choose to show the e-mailaddress or not. I've
> chosen not to, because the Message List Pane becomes cluttered.

I don't remember if there is a separate setting for news and email in 
Thunderbird. I have display of email address on in email because it 
allows one to find out people that try to fake their identity.

For example:

   Your Bank <banking@promotions.com>

If you hide the email, you only see "Your Bank" and might think it is a 
true mail from your bank, whereas displaying the email address you see 
that it is not. Or at least that it is suspect.

Windows software likely tend to hid the address, same as it hides the 
extension, allowing tricks to be played on users.

-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.
        ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#17771 — Re: Filtering Eejit

On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 19:39:15 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:

> I don't remember if there is a separate setting for news and email in 
> Thunderbird. I have display of email address on in email because it 
> allows one to find out people that try to fake their identity.
> 
> For example:
> 
>    Your Bank <banking@promotions.com>
> 
> If you hide the email, you only see "Your Bank" and might think it is a 
> true mail from your bank, whereas displaying the email address you see 
> that it is not. Or at least that it is suspect.
> 
> Windows software likely tend to hid the address, same as it hides the 
> extension, allowing tricks to be played on users.

That's not such a bad idea. I use TB as a mailclient, but display isn't
showing the e-mailaddress. That hasn't stopped me from recognising every
phishing mail that I have received though. But still, not a bad idea.

-- 
s|b

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#17772 — Re: Filtering Eejit

On 2026-07-14 19:55, s|b wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 19:39:15 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> 
>> I don't remember if there is a separate setting for news and email in
>> Thunderbird. I have display of email address on in email because it
>> allows one to find out people that try to fake their identity.
>>
>> For example:
>>
>>     Your Bank <banking@promotions.com>
>>
>> If you hide the email, you only see "Your Bank" and might think it is a
>> true mail from your bank, whereas displaying the email address you see
>> that it is not. Or at least that it is suspect.
>>
>> Windows software likely tend to hid the address, same as it hides the
>> extension, allowing tricks to be played on users.
> 
> That's not such a bad idea. I use TB as a mailclient, but display isn't
> showing the e-mailaddress. That hasn't stopped me from recognising every
> phishing mail that I have received though. But still, not a bad idea.

I get some very well made mail that claims to be from companies I do 
use, they seem genuine, but the mail address shows an advertising 
company, the same for all of them. It is possible that the email is 
legit, that they hired that company, but I do not know and don't trust 
it. So I want to see the email address (yes, obviously I filter them out 
easily, once found out).

-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.
        ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#17962

On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 20:08:07 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:

> I get some very well made mail that claims to be from companies I do
> use, they seem genuine, but the mail address shows an advertising
> company, the same for all of them. It is possible that the email is
> legit, that they hired that company, but I do not know and don't
> trust it.

One company I deal with sends emails where all the links point to some
Adobe click-tracking service. They are basically training their
customers to trust and click on random links.

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#17773 — Re: Filtering Eejit

On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 19:55:29 +0200, "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

>On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 19:39:15 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
>> I don't remember if there is a separate setting for news and email in 
>> Thunderbird. I have display of email address on in email because it 
>> allows one to find out people that try to fake their identity.
>> 
>> For example:
>> 
>>    Your Bank <banking@promotions.com>
>> 
>> If you hide the email, you only see "Your Bank" and might think it is a 
>> true mail from your bank, whereas displaying the email address you see 
>> that it is not. Or at least that it is suspect.
>> 
>> Windows software likely tend to hid the address, same as it hides the 
>> extension, allowing tricks to be played on users.
>
>That's not such a bad idea. I use TB as a mailclient, but display isn't
>showing the e-mailaddress. 

If you mean name and address in the List Pane, TB (at least 152.0.1
and likely long before) offers three variations: Full name and email
address... Email only... and Name only.

Tools > Settings > General > (scroll w-a-y down) Message List.

Dunno what the default is but I run Name only... individual messages
once opened still display both, be it email or news group.

[As to the example of banks, any I deal with never communicate
directly with a message containing specifics, but simply advise
there's a message waiting which requires login to my account. Canadian
banks are always hammering the message, "We will never contact you and
ask for personal/detailed information."]

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#17775 — Re: Filtering Eejit

On 2026-07-14 21:52, Nobody wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 19:55:29 +0200, "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 19:39:15 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>
>>> I don't remember if there is a separate setting for news and email in
>>> Thunderbird. I have display of email address on in email because it
>>> allows one to find out people that try to fake their identity.
>>>
>>> For example:
>>>
>>>     Your Bank <banking@promotions.com>
>>>
>>> If you hide the email, you only see "Your Bank" and might think it is a
>>> true mail from your bank, whereas displaying the email address you see
>>> that it is not. Or at least that it is suspect.
>>>
>>> Windows software likely tend to hid the address, same as it hides the
>>> extension, allowing tricks to be played on users.
>>
>> That's not such a bad idea. I use TB as a mailclient, but display isn't
>> showing the e-mailaddress.
> 
> If you mean name and address in the List Pane, TB (at least 152.0.1
> and likely long before) offers three variations: Full name and email
> address... Email only... and Name only.
> 
> Tools > Settings > General > (scroll w-a-y down) Message List.
> 
> Dunno what the default is but I run Name only... individual messages
> once opened still display both, be it email or news group.

There is also the option of displaying the name you have saved in your 
contact list instead.

> 
> [As to the example of banks, any I deal with never communicate
> directly with a message containing specifics, but simply advise
> there's a message waiting which requires login to my account. Canadian
> banks are always hammering the message, "We will never contact you and
> ask for personal/detailed information."]


-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.
        ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#17776 — Re: Filtering Eejit

On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 23:15:55 +0200, "Carlos E. R."
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

>On 2026-07-14 21:52, Nobody wrote:
>> On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 19:55:29 +0200, "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 19:39:15 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't remember if there is a separate setting for news and email in
>>>> Thunderbird. I have display of email address on in email because it
>>>> allows one to find out people that try to fake their identity.
>>>>
>>>> For example:
>>>>
>>>>     Your Bank <banking@promotions.com>
>>>>
>>>> If you hide the email, you only see "Your Bank" and might think it is a
>>>> true mail from your bank, whereas displaying the email address you see
>>>> that it is not. Or at least that it is suspect.
>>>>
>>>> Windows software likely tend to hid the address, same as it hides the
>>>> extension, allowing tricks to be played on users.
>>>
>>> That's not such a bad idea. I use TB as a mailclient, but display isn't
>>> showing the e-mailaddress.
>> 
>> If you mean name and address in the List Pane, TB (at least 152.0.1
>> and likely long before) offers three variations: Full name and email
>> address... Email only... and Name only.
>> 
>> Tools > Settings > General > (scroll w-a-y down) Message List.
>> 
>> Dunno what the default is but I run Name only... individual messages
>> once opened still display both, be it email or news group.
>
>There is also the option of displaying the name you have saved in your 
>contact list instead.

True, but that has to done/undone with each address individually.  As
well, it's an edit of how much of a full name a user wishes to see.

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#17780 — Re: Filtering Eejit

On 15/07/2026 8:53 am, Nobody wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 23:15:55 +0200, "Carlos E. R."
> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2026-07-14 21:52, Nobody wrote:

<Snip>

>>> Dunno what the default is but I run Name only... individual messages
>>> once opened still display both, be it email or news group.
>>
>> There is also the option of displaying the name you have saved in your
>> contact list instead.
> 
> True, but that has to done/undone with each address individually.  As
> well, it's an edit of how much of a full name a user wishes to see.
> 
I'm not sure if you are meaning this situation with your "each address 
individually" but what really bugs me is when you are dealing with a 
Corporation/Government Entity and when YOU contact them are a generic 
'someone@theorginistaion.com' and you get a response from 
'amy@theorginistaion.com' asking you some questions and you respond to 
'someone@theorginistaion.com' and you get a reply from 
'bert@theorginistaion.com' or 'fred@theorginistaion.com' or whatever.

If they want YOU to send to a particular mailbox, why can't THEY send 
FROM a particular mailbox??

How hard would it be??
-- 
Daniel70

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#17781 — Re: Filtering Eejit

On 2026-07-15 00:53, Nobody wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 23:15:55 +0200, "Carlos E. R."
> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> On 2026-07-14 21:52, Nobody wrote:
>>> On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 19:55:29 +0200, "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 19:39:15 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I don't remember if there is a separate setting for news and email in
>>>>> Thunderbird. I have display of email address on in email because it
>>>>> allows one to find out people that try to fake their identity.
>>>>>
>>>>> For example:
>>>>>
>>>>>      Your Bank <banking@promotions.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you hide the email, you only see "Your Bank" and might think it is a
>>>>> true mail from your bank, whereas displaying the email address you see
>>>>> that it is not. Or at least that it is suspect.
>>>>>
>>>>> Windows software likely tend to hid the address, same as it hides the
>>>>> extension, allowing tricks to be played on users.
>>>>
>>>> That's not such a bad idea. I use TB as a mailclient, but display isn't
>>>> showing the e-mailaddress.
>>>
>>> If you mean name and address in the List Pane, TB (at least 152.0.1
>>> and likely long before) offers three variations: Full name and email
>>> address... Email only... and Name only.
>>>
>>> Tools > Settings > General > (scroll w-a-y down) Message List.
>>>
>>> Dunno what the default is but I run Name only... individual messages
>>> once opened still display both, be it email or news group.
>>
>> There is also the option of displaying the name you have saved in your
>> contact list instead.
> 
> True, but that has to done/undone with each address individually.  As
> well, it's an edit of how much of a full name a user wishes to see.

No, it is a global setting.

Message List

Preferred address display format:

    (*) Full name and email address
    ( ) Email only
    ( ) Name only

  [ ] Show only display name for people in my address book

  Determine how Thunderbird handles return receipts [Return Receipts…]



-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.
        ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#17784 — Re: Filtering Eejit

On Wed, 15 Jul 2026 13:37:12 +0200, "Carlos E. R."
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

>On 2026-07-15 00:53, Nobody wrote:
>> On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 23:15:55 +0200, "Carlos E. R."
>> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2026-07-14 21:52, Nobody wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 19:55:29 +0200, "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 19:39:15 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't remember if there is a separate setting for news and email in
>>>>>> Thunderbird. I have display of email address on in email because it
>>>>>> allows one to find out people that try to fake their identity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For example:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Your Bank <banking@promotions.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you hide the email, you only see "Your Bank" and might think it is a
>>>>>> true mail from your bank, whereas displaying the email address you see
>>>>>> that it is not. Or at least that it is suspect.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Windows software likely tend to hid the address, same as it hides the
>>>>>> extension, allowing tricks to be played on users.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's not such a bad idea. I use TB as a mailclient, but display isn't
>>>>> showing the e-mailaddress.
>>>>
>>>> If you mean name and address in the List Pane, TB (at least 152.0.1
>>>> and likely long before) offers three variations: Full name and email
>>>> address... Email only... and Name only.
>>>>
>>>> Tools > Settings > General > (scroll w-a-y down) Message List.
>>>>
>>>> Dunno what the default is but I run Name only... individual messages
>>>> once opened still display both, be it email or news group.
>>>
>>> There is also the option of displaying the name you have saved in your
>>> contact list instead.
>> 
>> True, but that has to done/undone with each address individually.  As
>> well, it's an edit of how much of a full name a user wishes to see.
>
>No, it is a global setting.
>
>Message List
>
>Preferred address display format:
>
>    (*) Full name and email address
>    ( ) Email only
>    ( ) Name only
>
>  [ ] Show only display name for people in my address book
>
>  Determine how Thunderbird handles return receipts [Return Receipts…]

Er, that's what I described/set out a few posts back up the thread!

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#17786 — Re: Filtering Eejit

On 15/07/2026 17:44, Nobody wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Jul 2026 13:37:12 +0200, "Carlos E. R."
> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> On 2026-07-15 00:53, Nobody wrote:
>>> On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 23:15:55 +0200, "Carlos E. R."
>>> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2026-07-14 21:52, Nobody wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 19:55:29 +0200, "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 19:39:15 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't remember if there is a separate setting for news and email in
>>>>>>> Thunderbird. I have display of email address on in email because it
>>>>>>> allows one to find out people that try to fake their identity.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For example:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>       Your Bank <banking@promotions.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you hide the email, you only see "Your Bank" and might think it is a
>>>>>>> true mail from your bank, whereas displaying the email address you see
>>>>>>> that it is not. Or at least that it is suspect.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Windows software likely tend to hid the address, same as it hides the
>>>>>>> extension, allowing tricks to be played on users.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's not such a bad idea. I use TB as a mailclient, but display isn't
>>>>>> showing the e-mailaddress.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you mean name and address in the List Pane, TB (at least 152.0.1
>>>>> and likely long before) offers three variations: Full name and email
>>>>> address... Email only... and Name only.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tools > Settings > General > (scroll w-a-y down) Message List.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dunno what the default is but I run Name only... individual messages
>>>>> once opened still display both, be it email or news group.
>>>>
>>>> There is also the option of displaying the name you have saved in your
>>>> contact list instead.
>>>
>>> True, but that has to done/undone with each address individually.  As
>>> well, it's an edit of how much of a full name a user wishes to see.
>>
>> No, it is a global setting.
>>
>> Message List
>>
>> Preferred address display format:
>>
>>     (*) Full name and email address
>>     ( ) Email only
>>     ( ) Name only
>>
>>   [ ] Show only display name for people in my address book
>>
>>   Determine how Thunderbird handles return receipts [Return Receipts…]
> 
> Er, that's what I described/set out a few posts back up the thread!

No, you did not mention "[ ] Show only display name for people in my 
address book"
Which only works when there is indeed a display name set for a contact.
Some address books generate these by default, but not all.

On a side note: do you really add usenet contacts to your address book?

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#17788 — Re: Filtering Eejit

On Wed, 15 Jul 2026 18:13:15 +0200, dillinger <dillinger@not.invalid>
wrote:

>On 15/07/2026 17:44, Nobody wrote:
>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2026 13:37:12 +0200, "Carlos E. R."
>> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2026-07-15 00:53, Nobody wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 23:15:55 +0200, "Carlos E. R."
>>>> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2026-07-14 21:52, Nobody wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 19:55:29 +0200, "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 19:39:15 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't remember if there is a separate setting for news and email in
>>>>>>>> Thunderbird. I have display of email address on in email because it
>>>>>>>> allows one to find out people that try to fake their identity.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For example:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       Your Bank <banking@promotions.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you hide the email, you only see "Your Bank" and might think it is a
>>>>>>>> true mail from your bank, whereas displaying the email address you see
>>>>>>>> that it is not. Or at least that it is suspect.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Windows software likely tend to hid the address, same as it hides the
>>>>>>>> extension, allowing tricks to be played on users.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's not such a bad idea. I use TB as a mailclient, but display isn't
>>>>>>> showing the e-mailaddress.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you mean name and address in the List Pane, TB (at least 152.0.1
>>>>>> and likely long before) offers three variations: Full name and email
>>>>>> address... Email only... and Name only.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tools > Settings > General > (scroll w-a-y down) Message List.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dunno what the default is but I run Name only... individual messages
>>>>>> once opened still display both, be it email or news group.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is also the option of displaying the name you have saved in your
>>>>> contact list instead.
>>>>
>>>> True, but that has to done/undone with each address individually.  As
>>>> well, it's an edit of how much of a full name a user wishes to see.
>>>
>>> No, it is a global setting.
>>>
>>> Message List
>>>
>>> Preferred address display format:
>>>
>>>     (*) Full name and email address
>>>     ( ) Email only
>>>     ( ) Name only
>>>
>>>   [ ] Show only display name for people in my address book
>>>
>>>   Determine how Thunderbird handles return receipts [Return Receipts…]
>> 
>> Er, that's what I described/set out a few posts back up the thread!
>
>No, you did not mention "[ ] Show only display name for people in my 
>address book"

Oops.  My bad for the omission of the final point/variation as far as
emails are concerned.

That display name can be doctored by editing the address book entry.

>
>On a side note: do you really add usenet contacts to your address book?

Personally no... in which case, the three radio-buttons are the only
relevant choices.

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#17789 — Re: Filtering Eejit

On 2026-07-15 18:13, dillinger wrote:
> On 15/07/2026 17:44, Nobody wrote:
>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2026 13:37:12 +0200, "Carlos E. R."
>> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2026-07-15 00:53, Nobody wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 23:15:55 +0200, "Carlos E. R."
>>>> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2026-07-14 21:52, Nobody wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 19:55:29 +0200, "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 19:39:15 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>>>>>

...

>>> No, it is a global setting.
>>>
>>> Message List
>>>
>>> Preferred address display format:
>>>
>>>     (*) Full name and email address
>>>     ( ) Email only
>>>     ( ) Name only
>>>
>>>   [ ] Show only display name for people in my address book
>>>
>>>   Determine how Thunderbird handles return receipts [Return Receipts…]
>>
>> Er, that's what I described/set out a few posts back up the thread!
> 
> No, you did not mention "[ ] Show only display name for people in my 
> address book"
> Which only works when there is indeed a display name set for a contact.
> Some address books generate these by default, but not all.
> 
> On a side note: do you really add usenet contacts to your address book?

It could be collected addresses.

I just looked at mine: you are not there, seems to collect only from email.



-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.
        ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#17783 — Re: Filtering Eejit

On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 12:52:14 -0700, Nobody wrote:

> If you mean name and address in the List Pane, TB (at least 152.0.1
> and likely long before) offers three variations: Full name and email
> address... Email only... and Name only.
> 
> Tools > Settings > General > (scroll w-a-y down) Message List.

Tnx. I've set it up to show full name and email address.

-- 
s|b

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#17750

In article <1133fh7$3rrq0$1@dont-email.me>,
   R.Wieser <address@is.invalid> wrote:
[Snippy]

> Yes, its confusing.  My newsgroup reader - and I expect quite a number
> of others - doesn't show email addresses.  The only time I see an email
> address is when I reply to a message or inspect its headers.

I do like to see the funny side of many things in my dotage...  :-)
Interesting...

On the particular OS I'm using ATM. 
The Mail/News reader app (Pluto 3.20) upfront shows:

Author: R.Wieser <address@is.invalid>
Subject: Filtering Eejits
Source: alt.comp.software.firefox

Even more interesting, now I've moved sideway at my office desk to my
Laptop/notebook, Win10, Thunderbird 140.12.1 upfront I see something
similar displayed.

From: R.Wieser <address@is.invalid>
Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox
Subject: Filtering Eejits

And by looking a bit deeper, behind the scene header data, even you are
not using Thunderbird.

Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512

So I'm not the only one here, using different News apps, depending upon
what computer I'm using at the time.

What fun... I'm a great believer of the old phrase: "Horses for courses."

D.

Nb: I took great care to be sure I replied with the correct geezer this
time.   ;-)

D.

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#17714

On Sun, 12 Jul 2026 21:01:06 +0100, Dave wrote:

> The only relevant info is, I posted to a Firefox NG as I use it.

Eejit.

-- 
s|b

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#17705

On 12/07/2026 12:07, John Cunt. wrote:
> Take back the tech companies from India & industry from China.

Did you know that Asha Sharma, the daughter of Indian immigrants, has 
become the CEO of Xbox?  I'm sure that must hit you below the belt!

India Shocked the World: <https://youtu.be/2hrmb3_5jhg>
India Is Quietly Taking Over The World With These 9 Moves 🇮🇳
<https://youtu.be/0tgk5ps8Nqw>

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#17699

On Sun, 12 Jul 2026 09:25:41 +0100, Dnews wrote:

> It's happening more and more these days, an Eejit(s) who posts to the
> Firefox newsgroup, has a whole list of other Eejit addresses in the header
> so that it also posts the same Eejit stuff to the Thunderbird newsgroup
> etc, relevant or not.
> 
> I don't want to waste what little life I have left after reading something
> in Firefox, to find it repeated when I read the Tb newsgroup.
> 
> Aside from completely quitting the Tb newsgroup, is there a simple way,
> maybe a filter to eliminate these Eejits from my sight?

You could teach these people how to quote:
<https://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote2.html#ss2.1>

You could use a newsreader that can create filters based posting's
lines, but I think this will only if you retrieve the full body and not
only headers.

There's newsreaders that can be set up to ignore quotes.

Several newsreaders can use Space to scroll down faster.

...

-- 
s|b

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#17701

On 2026-07-12 10:25, Dnews wrote:
> It's happening more and more these days, an Eejit(s) who posts to the
> Firefox newsgroup, has a whole list of other Eejit addresses in the header
> so that it also posts the same Eejit stuff to the Thunderbird newsgroup
> etc, relevant or not.
> 
> I don't want to waste what little life I have left after reading something
> in Firefox, to find it repeated when I read the Tb newsgroup.
> 
> Aside from completely quitting the Tb newsgroup, is there a simple way,
> maybe a filter to eliminate these Eejits from my sight?

Assuming you use Thunderbird (because you mention reading that group) 
you can create a filter that marks as read a post that was posted in 
another group. Always the same group, mind. Assumes you read the posts 
in a certain order.


-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.
        ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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