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CloudFlare is blocking smaller browsers

Started bySailfish <NIXCAPSsailfish@NIXCAPSunforgettable.com>
First post2025-03-16 05:47 -0700
Last post2025-03-17 13:45 -0700
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  CloudFlare is blocking smaller browsers Sailfish <NIXCAPSsailfish@NIXCAPSunforgettable.com> - 2025-03-16 05:47 -0700
    Re: CloudFlare is blocking smaller browsers "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-03-16 15:14 +0100
    Re: CloudFlare is blocking smaller browsers John McCue <jmccue@qball.jmcunx.com> - 2025-03-16 14:24 +0000
    Re: CloudFlare is blocking smaller browsers D <noreply@mixmin.net> - 2025-03-16 14:32 +0000
    Re: CloudFlare is blocking smaller browsers Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-16 11:36 -0400
      Re: CloudFlare is blocking smaller browsers ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-03-17 01:19 +0000
        Re: CloudFlare is blocking smaller browsers Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-03-17 19:22 +1100
          Re: CloudFlare is blocking smaller browsers "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-03-17 10:55 +0100
            Re: CloudFlare is blocking smaller browsers "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-17 13:19 +0100
              Re: CloudFlare is blocking smaller browsers Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-03-17 12:43 +0000
              Re: CloudFlare is blocking smaller browsers "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-03-17 14:27 +0100
                Re: CloudFlare is blocking smaller browsers "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-17 20:04 +0100
                  Re: CloudFlare is blocking smaller browsers "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-03-17 20:59 +0100
                    Re: CloudFlare is blocking smaller browsers "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-03-17 21:20 +0100
                      Re: CloudFlare is blocking smaller browsers "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-03-18 07:40 +0100
                        Re: CloudFlare is blocking smaller browsers Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-18 08:39 -0400
                          Re: CloudFlare is blocking smaller browsers "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-03-18 15:43 +0100
                            Re: CloudFlare is blocking smaller browsers Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-18 15:29 -0400
                              Re: CloudFlare is blocking smaller browsers "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-03-18 21:12 +0100
                                Re: CloudFlare is blocking smaller browsers Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-18 18:52 -0400
                                  Re: CloudFlare is blocking smaller browsers "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-03-19 08:28 +0100
                                Re: CloudFlare is blocking smaller browsers Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-03-19 01:30 -0500
                                  Re: CloudFlare is blocking smaller browsers "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-03-19 08:08 +0100
                                    Re: CloudFlare is blocking smaller browsers Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-03-19 02:49 -0500
                                    Re: CloudFlare is blocking smaller browsers Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-19 08:39 -0400
                                      Re: CloudFlare is blocking smaller browsers "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-03-19 14:20 +0100
                    Re: CloudFlare is blocking smaller browsers News <news@triffid.co.uk> - 2025-03-18 07:30 +0000
                      Re: CloudFlare is blocking smaller browsers "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-03-18 09:10 +0100
            Re: CloudFlare is blocking smaller browsers Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-03-18 00:10 +1100
              Re: CloudFlare is blocking smaller browsers "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-03-17 14:32 +0100
                Re: CloudFlare is blocking smaller browsers R Daneel Olivaw <Danni@hyperspace.vogon.gov> - 2025-03-17 15:37 +0100
              Re: CloudFlare is blocking smaller browsers "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-03-17 21:22 +0100
            Re: CloudFlare is blocking smaller browsers micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-03-25 01:57 -0400
              Re: CloudFlare is blocking smaller browsers "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-25 20:25 +0100
                Re: CloudFlare is blocking smaller browsers micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-03-25 20:35 -0400
        Re: CloudFlare is blocking smaller browsers R Daneel Olivaw <Danni@hyperspace.vogon.gov> - 2025-03-17 13:02 +0100
          No RCEs to see here [was: Re: CloudFlare is blocking smaller browsers] Dirk Fieldhouse <surname@gmx.net.plusremovethisandtherest.example.com> - 2025-03-17 13:50 +0000
            Re: No RCEs to see here [was: Re: CloudFlare is blocking smaller browsers] ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-03-17 18:24 +0000
          Re: CloudFlare is blocking smaller browsers Chris Elvidge <chris@internal.net> - 2025-03-17 22:09 +0000
    Re: CloudFlare is blocking smaller browsers VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-16 12:26 -0500
    Re: CloudFlare is blocking smaller browsers not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-03-17 08:12 +1000
    Re: CloudFlare is blocking smaller browsers User One <noreply@invalid.com> - 2025-03-16 22:37 +0000
      Re: CloudFlare is blocking smaller browsers "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-03-17 21:18 +0100
    Re: CloudFlare is blocking smaller browsers ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-03-17 01:18 +0000
      Re: CloudFlare is blocking smaller browsers Dirk Fieldhouse <surname@gmx.net.plusremovethisandtherest.example.com> - 2025-03-17 14:05 +0000
    Re: CloudFlare is blocking smaller browsers "David E. Ross" <nobody@nowhere.invalid> - 2025-03-17 13:45 -0700

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#12742

Fromnot@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev)
Date2025-03-17 08:12 +1000
Message-ID<67d74cbc@news.ausics.net>
In reply to#12729
Sailfish <NIXCAPSsailfish@nixcapsunforgettable.com> wrote:
> REF: https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=65&t=32127#p260689
> 
> Pale Moon is one of those, and, possibly so are SeaMonkey, Waterfox, and 
> LibreWolf.

The smaller browsers I use: Dillo, Links, etc., have been getting
blocked by CloudFlare for years. They require Javascript and if
your browser doesn't support it (or maybe doesn't support it well
enough in those newer cases), tough luck. You just get a page
saying something like "Enable Javascript and cookies to continue".

Usually I skip such websites. Sometimes I view the archived copy on
the Wayback Machine, or if it's not there use archive.is to save
single pages (slowly) then view them there. Sometimes I grumble to
myself and resign to starting up Firefox to use it instead.

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#12743

FromUser One <noreply@invalid.com>
Date2025-03-16 22:37 +0000
Message-ID<vr7jv5$12nrm$1@paganini.bofh.team>
In reply to#12729
On 16/03/2025 12:47, Sailfish wrote:
> REF: https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=65&t=32127#p260689
> 
> Pale Moon is one of those, and, possibly so are SeaMonkey, Waterfox, and 
> LibreWolf.
> 

Are you talking about when users visit their website or are you talking 
about when people use their free dns service (1.1.1.1). I'm using their 
dns service but I'm not using any of the "smaller browsers". I mainly 
use Edge and/or Chrome and occasionally FF (old versions because I 
haven't bothered to upgrade).

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#12769

From"s|b" <me@privacy.invalid>
Date2025-03-17 21:18 +0100
Message-ID<m3rec5Fn16uU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#12743
On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 22:37:16 +0000, User One wrote:

> Are you talking about when users visit their website or are you talking 
> about when people use their free dns service (1.1.1.1). 

Neither. It's about the checkbox 'Verifying you are human. This may take
a few seconds.'

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#12744

Fromant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
Date2025-03-17 01:18 +0000
Message-ID<tjWdnVRHc93K5Ur6nZ2dnZfqn_TL2Nvf@earthlink.com>
In reply to#12729
Sailfish <NIXCAPSsailfish@nixcapsunforgettable.com> wrote:
> REF: https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=65&t=32127#p260689

> Pale Moon is one of those, and, possibly so are SeaMonkey, Waterfox, and 
> LibreWolf.

I can confirm SeaMonkey (crossposted). So annoying!
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#12761

FromDirk Fieldhouse <surname@gmx.net.plusremovethisandtherest.example.com>
Date2025-03-17 14:05 +0000
Message-ID<L26dnadIRY6-sUX6nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>
In reply to#12744
[fw-up: a.c.s.seamonkey]
On 17/03/2025 01:18, Ant wrote:
> Sailfish <NIXCAPSsailfish@nixcapsunforgettable.com> wrote:
>> REF: https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=65&t=32127#p260689
> 
>> Pale Moon is one of those, and, possibly so are SeaMonkey, Waterfox, and 
>> LibreWolf.
> 
> I can confirm SeaMonkey (crossposted). So annoying!
> 

Already discussed in a.c.s.seamonkey:

> Subject: Cloudflare challenge blocks sites with JS failing
> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2024 11:59:58 +0100
> From: Dirk Fieldhouse <surname@gmx.net.plusremovethisandtherest.example.com>
> Newsgroups: alt.comp.software.seamonkey
> Message-ID: <SSCdnaB5fo6lNZb6nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>

Key points:
* CF forces client to have JS enabled
* the CF JS breaks in SM 2.53
* you may have some success by toggling View>Use Style between None and
Default to reveal an "I am not a robot" checkbox hidden in an otherwise
invisible IFRAME
* changing UAs will have no or minimal effect since CF is exercising the
browser's JS to decide whether it's wearing trainers.

/df


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#12772

From"David E. Ross" <nobody@nowhere.invalid>
Date2025-03-17 13:45 -0700
Message-ID<vra1lq$tde7$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#12729
On 3/16/2025 5:47 AM, Sailfish wrote:
> REF: https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=65&t=32127#p260689
> 
> Pale Moon is one of those, and, possibly so are SeaMonkey, Waterfox, and 
> LibreWolf.
> 

One possible solution is to send a postal letter (i.e., vis the U.S.
Postal Service) to the owner of an affected Web site.  Indicate that
CloudFlare is preventing as much as a third or more of potential
visitors from accessing their site.  If the site is owned by a
for-profit business, they might take seriously the loss of a significant
potential customer base.

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