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  Firefox v157 How unfortunate Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-09-29 20:28 +0100
    Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-09-29 12:40 -0700
      Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-09-29 21:05 +0100
        Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2026-09-29 16:53 -0400
          Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-09-30 11:20 +0100
    Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate hsdejong <newsgroup@invalid.hsdejong.nl> - 2026-09-30 08:03 +0200
      Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-09-30 11:26 +0100
        Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate JJ <jj4public@gmail.com> - 2026-09-30 20:39 +0700
          Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-09-30 15:22 -0300
        Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Stan Brown <someone@example.com> - 2026-10-03 21:47 -0700
          Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-10-04 12:08 +0100
            Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-10-04 15:36 +0000
              Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-10-04 19:06 +0100
      Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2026-09-30 13:53 -0400
        Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-30 19:18 +0100
          Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-10-01 11:13 -0300
            Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-10-01 16:05 +0100
              Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-02 20:05 +1000
                Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2026-10-02 06:58 -0400
          Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Udo Steinbach <trashcan@udoline.de> - 2026-10-01 17:37 +0200
            Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-02 20:09 +1000
        Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2026-10-01 03:34 -0700
    Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-30 19:30 +1000
      Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-30 11:05 +0100
        Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2026-09-30 09:00 -0400
          Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2026-09-30 09:10 -0700
        Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-09-30 15:23 +0000
          Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-09-30 15:27 +0000
          Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-30 17:24 +0100
            Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-09-30 17:21 +0000
              Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-30 18:48 +0100
              Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Stan Brown <someone@example.com> - 2026-10-03 21:50 -0700
      Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-09-30 11:37 +0100
        Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-30 22:24 +1000
          Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-09-30 19:04 +0100
            Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-01 19:59 +1000
            Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Nobody <jock@soccer.com> - 2026-10-01 16:29 -0700
        Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Retirednoguilt <HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.invalid> - 2026-09-30 10:29 -0400
          Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Stan Brown <someone@example.com> - 2026-10-03 21:52 -0700
            Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-04 19:43 +1100
        Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate hsdejong <newsgroup@invalid.hsdejong.nl> - 2026-09-30 17:10 +0200
    Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 17:29 +0100
      Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2026-10-01 21:41 -0400
      Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Ralph Fox <-rf-nz-@-.invalid> - 2026-10-03 09:55 +1300
        Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-03 10:26 +0100
      Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Nobody <jock@soccer.com> - 2026-10-02 16:03 -0700

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#18233 — Firefox v157 How unfortunate

So Firefox 157.0 is released...
Updated and am NOT happy, what's with the round corners in the various
windows/panes.

I don't want rounded corners, I like square corners.

Any known config to return to square corners?

Thanks
Dave

Not forgetting the effing round corners on the main Fx window and the
bookmarks pane are now occupying a few pixels of my Tabs below bar.

Off to userChrome to tweak again... If I can remember what to tweak  :-(
D.

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#18234

On 9/29/26 12:28, Dnews wrote:
> So Firefox 157.0 is released...
> Updated and am NOT happy, what's with the round corners in the various
> windows/panes.

Some sites have them, some not.  Are they new?  I never would have noticed.

-- 
Cheers, Bev
   My house isn't a pigsty, it's an Immunity Enhancement Center.

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#18235

In article <119h47q$3jfcu$1@dont-email.me>,
   The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/29/26 12:28, Dnews wrote:
> > So Firefox 157.0 is released...
> > Updated and am NOT happy, what's with the round corners in the various
> > windows/panes.

> Some sites have them, some not.  Are they new?  I never would have
> noticed.

They were square in 156.0.1 from which I updated to 157.0

Since the update I've visited a number of sites, and as they are displayed
within the Firefox main window it has rounded corners.

I would have noticed before... As noted in my previous posting, the new
roundy cornered windows take some of my Tab below pixels, cutting off the
bottom of the tab.

I've been to my userChrome file and tweaked a couple of setting to get the
tabs fully displayed again.

Dave

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#18237

On 9/29/26 4:05 PM, Dnews wrote:
> In article <119h47q$3jfcu$1@dont-email.me>,
>     The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 9/29/26 12:28, Dnews wrote:
>>> So Firefox 157.0 is released...
>>> Updated and am NOT happy, what's with the round corners in the various
>>> windows/panes.
> 
>> Some sites have them, some not.  Are they new?  I never would have
>> noticed.
> 
> They were square in 156.0.1 from which I updated to 157.0
> 
> Since the update I've visited a number of sites, and as they are displayed
> within the Firefox main window it has rounded corners.
> 
> I would have noticed before... As noted in my previous posting, the new
> roundy cornered windows take some of my Tab below pixels, cutting off the
> bottom of the tab.
> 
> I've been to my userChrome file and tweaked a couple of setting to get the
> tabs fully displayed again.
> 
> Dave
> 
Since I'm not jumping on the upgrade, can you take a screenshot so we can see?

-- 
Mint 22.3,  Thunderbird 153.3.1esr,  Firefox 156.0.1
     Alan K.

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#18247

In article <119h8gi$3l036$1@dont-email.me>,
   Alan K. <alan@invalid.com> wrote:
> > 
> Since I'm not jumping on the upgrade, can you take a screenshot so we
> can see?

Sorry.
I would if I could, but I've already tweaked my UserChrome file to make
the required adjustment.  :-)

D

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#18243

On 29-9-2026 21:28, Dnews wrote:
> So Firefox 157.0 is released...
> Updated and am NOT happy, what's with the round corners in the various
> windows/panes.
> 
> I don't want rounded corners, I like square corners.
> 
> Any known config to return to square corners?
> 

about:config

set browser.nova.enabled to false
-- 
With kind regards,
Henk

https://www.hsdejong.nl

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#18246

In article <119i8ni$3v4r4$1@dont-email.me>,
   hsdejong <newsgroup@invalid.hsdejong.nl> wrote:
> On 29-9-2026 21:28, Dnews wrote:
> > So Firefox 157.0 is released...
> > Updated and am NOT happy, what's with the round corners in the various
> > windows/panes.
> > 
> > I don't want rounded corners, I like square corners.
> > 
> > Any known config to return to square corners?
> > 

> about:config

> set browser.nova.enabled to false

Thanks, that does work.  :-)

D

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#18254

On Wed, 30 Sep 2026 11:26:04 +0100, Dnews wrote:
> In article <119i8ni$3v4r4$1@dont-email.me>,
>    hsdejong <newsgroup@invalid.hsdejong.nl> wrote:
>> On 29-9-2026 21:28, Dnews wrote:
>>> So Firefox 157.0 is released...
>>> Updated and am NOT happy, what's with the round corners in the various
>>> windows/panes.
>>> 
>>> I don't want rounded corners, I like square corners.
>>> 
>>> Any known config to return to square corners?
>>> 
> 
>> about:config
> 
>> set browser.nova.enabled to false
> 
> Thanks, that does work.  :-)
> 
> D

For now...

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#18270

JJ <jj4public@gmail.com> writes:

> On Wed, 30 Sep 2026 11:26:04 +0100, Dnews wrote:
>> In article <119i8ni$3v4r4$1@dont-email.me>,
>>    hsdejong <newsgroup@invalid.hsdejong.nl> wrote:
>>> On 29-9-2026 21:28, Dnews wrote:
>>>> So Firefox 157.0 is released...
>>>> Updated and am NOT happy, what's with the round corners in the various
>>>> windows/panes.
>>>> 
>>>> I don't want rounded corners, I like square corners.
>>>> 
>>>> Any known config to return to square corners?
>>>> 
>> 
>>> about:config
>> 
>>> set browser.nova.enabled to false
>> 
>> Thanks, that does work.  :-)
>> 
>> D
>
> For now...

Lol!

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#18292

On Wed, 30 Sep 2026 11:26:04 +0100, Dnews wrote:
> 
> In article <119i8ni$3v4r4$1@dont-email.me>,
>    hsdejong <newsgroup@invalid.hsdejong.nl> wrote:
> > On 29-9-2026 21:28, Dnews wrote:
> > > So Firefox 157.0 is released...
> > > Updated and am NOT happy, what's with the round corners in the various
> > > windows/panes.
> > > 
> > > I don't want rounded corners, I like square corners.
> > > 
> > > Any known config to return to square corners?
> > > 
> 
> > about:config
> 
> > set browser.nova.enabled to false
> 
> Thanks, that does work.  :-)
> 
> D

Do you actually get rectangles? After changing the settings and 
closing and reopening Firefox, I have rectangles with rounded 
corners. It's better than the FF 157 default, which looks like a 
horse-race track, but it's not rectangles with 90° corners..

-- 
Trolls wouldn't be trolling if nobody would take the flamebait.

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#18296

In article <MPG.452b7a22293f56ed9904e1@news.individual.net>,
   Stan Brown <someone@example.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Sep 2026 11:26:04 +0100, Dnews wrote:
> > 
> > In article <119i8ni$3v4r4$1@dont-email.me>,
> >    hsdejong <newsgroup@invalid.hsdejong.nl> wrote:
> > > On 29-9-2026 21:28, Dnews wrote:
> > > > So Firefox 157.0 is released... Updated and am NOT happy, what's
> > > > with the round corners in the various windows/panes.
> > > > 
> > > > I don't want rounded corners, I like square corners.
> > > > 
> > > > Any known config to return to square corners?
> > > > 
> > 
> > > about:config
> > 
> > > set browser.nova.enabled to false
> > 
> > Thanks, that does work.  :-)
> > 
> > D

> Do you actually get rectangles? After changing the settings and 
> closing and reopening Firefox, I have rectangles with rounded 
> corners. It's better than the FF 157 default, which looks like a 
> horse-race track, but it's not rectangles with 90° corners..

When I tested the config change, the main Firefox window/pane, the bit we
do the stuff in, had real square corners.

Dave

And as I noted in an earlier posting, that was the important bit for me
because the rounding of the corners had occupied a few pixels of my under
tab bar.
Meaning my tabs had chopped off bottoms... (painful).

By the time the "set browser.nova.enabled to false" note had arrived, I'd
already modified my userChrome to adjust the tab positions, and as I don't
trust Devs to leave things alone, I put "set browser.nova.enabled back to
true"

D.

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#18298

Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
>Stan Brown <someone@example.com> wrote:
>>On Wed, 30 Sep 2026 11:26:04 +0100, Dnews wrote:

>>>. . . 

>>Do you actually get rectangles? After changing the settings and 
>>closing and reopening Firefox, I have rectangles with rounded 
>>corners. It's better than the FF 157 default, which looks like a 
>>horse-race track, but it's not rectangles with 90 degree corners..

>When I tested the config change, the main Firefox window/pane, the bit we
>do the stuff in, had real square corners.

>And as I noted in an earlier posting, that was the important bit for me
>because the rounding of the corners had occupied a few pixels of my under
>tab bar.
>Meaning my tabs had chopped off bottoms... (painful).

>By the time the "set browser.nova.enabled to false" note had arrived, I'd
>already modified my userChrome to adjust the tab positions, and as I don't
>trust Devs to leave things alone, I put "set browser.nova.enabled back to
>true"

I'm still confused as to how you did it. Setting is to FALSE, I've still
got the slight corner rounding. In order, I have menu bar, tab bar, URL
bar, bookmarks toolbar.

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#18300

In article <119trps$9to$3@dont-email.me>,
   Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
> Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
> >Stan Brown <someone@example.com> wrote:
> >>On Wed, 30 Sep 2026 11:26:04 +0100, Dnews wrote:

> >>>. . . 

> >>Do you actually get rectangles? After changing the settings and 
> >>closing and reopening Firefox, I have rectangles with rounded 
> >>corners. It's better than the FF 157 default, which looks like a 
> >>horse-race track, but it's not rectangles with 90 degree corners..

> >When I tested the config change, the main Firefox window/pane, the bit
> >we do the stuff in, had real square corners.

> >And as I noted in an earlier posting, that was the important bit for me
> >because the rounding of the corners had occupied a few pixels of my
> >under tab bar. Meaning my tabs had chopped off bottoms... (painful).

> >By the time the "set browser.nova.enabled to false" note had arrived,
> >I'd already modified my userChrome to adjust the tab positions, and as
> >I don't trust Devs to leave things alone, I put "set
> >browser.nova.enabled back to true"

> I'm still confused as to how you did it. Setting is to FALSE, I've still
> got the slight corner rounding. In order, I have menu bar, tab bar, URL
> bar, bookmarks toolbar.

Ah! I see what you mean.

"set browser.nova.enabled to false" only seems to set the Main Firefox
window/pane back to square.

The Bookmarks, History panes etc... still seem to have very slightly
rounded corners.

Dunno the answer to that one...

Dave

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#18267

On 9/30/26 2:03 AM, hsdejong wrote:
> On 29-9-2026 21:28, Dnews wrote:
>> So Firefox 157.0 is released...
>> Updated and am NOT happy, what's with the round corners in the various
>> windows/panes.
>>
>> I don't want rounded corners, I like square corners.
>>
>> Any known config to return to square corners?
>>
> 
> about:config
> 
> set browser.nova.enabled to false

I just tried 157 in Linux.
I kinda like it.  I've got that browser.nova.enabled to true.
Firefox now uses a lot of my desktop theme.  Checkboxes are colored, buttons have a purple 
border, active items are highlighted in purple etc.   If I change to my Orange desktop 
theme they show through too.  I don't see that much in the rounded anything (except the 
buttons are more rounded).

-- 
Mint 22.3,  Thunderbird 153.3.1esr,  Firefox 156.0.1
     Alan K.

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#18269

"Alan K." wrote:

> I just tried 157 in Linux. I kinda like it.  I've got that
> browser.nova.enabled to true. Firefox now uses a lot of my desktop
> theme.  Checkboxes are colored, buttons have a purple border, active
> items are highlighted in purple etc.   If I change to my Orange
> desktop theme they show through too.

I don't know why FF and TB try to look different from native apps on any 
platform, surely they should just "blend right in"?

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#18273

Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> writes:

> "Alan K." wrote:
>
>> I just tried 157 in Linux. I kinda like it.  I've got that
>> browser.nova.enabled to true. Firefox now uses a lot of my desktop
>> theme.  Checkboxes are colored, buttons have a purple border, active
>> items are highlighted in purple etc.   If I change to my Orange
>> desktop theme they show through too.
>
> I don't know why FF and TB try to look different from native apps on
> any platform, surely they should just "blend right in"?

The designers wanna leave their mark?

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#18274

In article <87se2p8q5y.fsf@safunu.org>,
   Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> wrote:
> Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> writes:

> > "Alan K." wrote:
> >
> >> I just tried 157 in Linux. I kinda like it.  I've got that
> >> browser.nova.enabled to true. Firefox now uses a lot of my desktop
> >> theme.  Checkboxes are colored, buttons have a purple border, active
> >> items are highlighted in purple etc.   If I change to my Orange
> >> desktop theme they show through too.
> >
> > I don't know why FF and TB try to look different from native apps on
> > any platform, surely they should just "blend right in"?

> The designers wanna leave their mark?

Yea! Like a dog that pisses over everything and makes it stink.

D.

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#18280

On 2/10/2026 1:05 am, Dnews wrote:
> In article <87se2p8q5y.fsf@safunu.org>,
>     Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> wrote:
>> Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> writes:
>>> "Alan K." wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just tried 157 in Linux. I kinda like it.  I've got that
>>>> browser.nova.enabled to true. Firefox now uses a lot of my desktop
>>>> theme.  Checkboxes are colored, buttons have a purple border, active
>>>> items are highlighted in purple etc.   If I change to my Orange
>>>> desktop theme they show through too.
>>>
>>> I don't know why FF and TB try to look different from native apps on
>>> any platform, surely they should just "blend right in"?
> 
>> The designers wanna leave their mark?
> 
> Yea! Like a dog that pisses over everything and makes it stink.
> 
> D.
> 
.... and here I've always thought that was just the dog want to say 
"HI", sort of. ;-P
-- 
Daniel70

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#18282

On 10/02/2026 6:05 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
> On 2/10/2026 1:05 am, Dnews wrote:
>> In article <87se2p8q5y.fsf@safunu.org>,
>>     Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> wrote:
>>> Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> writes:
>>>> "Alan K." wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I just tried 157 in Linux. I kinda like it.  I've got that
>>>>> browser.nova.enabled to true. Firefox now uses a lot of my desktop
>>>>> theme.  Checkboxes are colored, buttons have a purple border, active
>>>>> items are highlighted in purple etc.   If I change to my Orange
>>>>> desktop theme they show through too.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know why FF and TB try to look different from native apps on
>>>> any platform, surely they should just "blend right in"?
>>
>>> The designers wanna leave their mark?
>>
>> Yea! Like a dog that pisses over everything and makes it stink.
>>
>> D.
>>
> .... and here I've always thought that was just the dog want to say 
> "HI", sort of. ;-P
We have always thought of what dogs were leaving p-mail for their friends.

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#18275

Am 2026-09-30 um 20:18 schrieb Andy Burns:
> I don't know why FF and TB try to look different from native apps on any
> platform

To cover up the fact that they are increasingly incapacitate the users by hiding more and more information. They replace contents and
functionality with makeup.
It maybe OK that a browser does not understand RSS. But it's not OK to hide that RSS is part of the website. On the other hand they built in PDF (with it's security concerns) — the opposite of HTML.
At the end they replace serious work by arbitrary fun work. The serious work has to be done by extension authors, like me, who are severely hindered in the process and have to put in many times the effort to do so.
-- 
Die Zeit der Unschuldsvermutung ist vorüber. http://radwege.udoline.de/
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