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  Firefox v157 How unfortunate Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-09-29 20:28 +0100
    Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-09-29 12:40 -0700
      Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-09-29 21:05 +0100
        Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2026-09-29 16:53 -0400
          Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-09-30 11:20 +0100
    Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate hsdejong <newsgroup@invalid.hsdejong.nl> - 2026-09-30 08:03 +0200
      Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-09-30 11:26 +0100
        Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate JJ <jj4public@gmail.com> - 2026-09-30 20:39 +0700
          Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-09-30 15:22 -0300
        Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Stan Brown <someone@example.com> - 2026-10-03 21:47 -0700
          Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-10-04 12:08 +0100
            Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-10-04 15:36 +0000
              Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-10-04 19:06 +0100
      Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2026-09-30 13:53 -0400
        Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-30 19:18 +0100
          Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-10-01 11:13 -0300
            Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-10-01 16:05 +0100
              Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-02 20:05 +1000
                Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2026-10-02 06:58 -0400
          Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Udo Steinbach <trashcan@udoline.de> - 2026-10-01 17:37 +0200
            Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-02 20:09 +1000
        Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2026-10-01 03:34 -0700
    Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-30 19:30 +1000
      Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-30 11:05 +0100
        Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2026-09-30 09:00 -0400
          Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2026-09-30 09:10 -0700
        Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-09-30 15:23 +0000
          Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-09-30 15:27 +0000
          Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-30 17:24 +0100
            Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-09-30 17:21 +0000
              Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-30 18:48 +0100
              Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Stan Brown <someone@example.com> - 2026-10-03 21:50 -0700
      Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-09-30 11:37 +0100
        Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-30 22:24 +1000
          Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-09-30 19:04 +0100
            Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-01 19:59 +1000
            Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Nobody <jock@soccer.com> - 2026-10-01 16:29 -0700
        Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Retirednoguilt <HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.invalid> - 2026-09-30 10:29 -0400
          Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Stan Brown <someone@example.com> - 2026-10-03 21:52 -0700
            Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-04 19:43 +1100
        Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate hsdejong <newsgroup@invalid.hsdejong.nl> - 2026-09-30 17:10 +0200
    Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 17:29 +0100
      Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2026-10-01 21:41 -0400
      Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Ralph Fox <-rf-nz-@-.invalid> - 2026-10-03 09:55 +1300
        Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-03 10:26 +0100
      Re: Firefox v157 How unfortunate Nobody <jock@soccer.com> - 2026-10-02 16:03 -0700

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#18281

On 2/10/2026 1:37 am, Udo Steinbach wrote:
> Am 2026-09-30 um 20:18 schrieb Andy Burns:
>> I don't know why FF and TB try to look different from native apps on any
>> platform
> 
> To cover up the fact that they are increasingly incapacitate the users 
> by hiding more and more information. They replace contents and
> functionality with makeup.

Well, THEY know how THEY think the User should USE a program .... 
THEY've just got to convince the USER!!

> It maybe OK that a browser does not understand RSS. But it's not OK to 
> hide that RSS is part of the website. On the other hand they built in 
> PDF (with it's security concerns) — the opposite of HTML.
> At the end they replace serious work by arbitrary fun work. The serious 
> work has to be done by extension authors, like me, who are severely 
> hindered in the process and have to put in many times the effort to do so.
-- 
Daniel70

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#18272

Alan K. wrote:
> hsdejong wrote:
>> Dnews wrote:
>>>
>>> So Firefox 157.0 is released...
>>> Updated and am NOT happy, what's with the round corners in the various
>>> windows/panes.
>>>
>>> I don't want rounded corners, I like square corners.
>>>
>>> Any known config to return to square corners?
>>
>> about:config
>>
>> set browser.nova.enabled to false
> 
> I just tried 157 in Linux.
> I kinda like it.  I've got that browser.nova.enabled to true.
> Firefox now uses a lot of my desktop theme.  Checkboxes are colored,
> buttons have a purple border, active items are highlighted in purple
> etc.   If I change to my Orange desktop theme they show through too.  I
> don't see that much in the rounded anything (except the buttons are more
> rounded).
I think the reason I don't like the tabs having all four corners rounded
is because they're supposed to emulate the tabs on a file folder. When I
look in my filing cabinet, I don't see any file folders with tabs that
have four rounded corners and floating above the actual folders.

As for the overall appearance and rounding the corners on other stuff
like the address field, changes like this just for the sake of change
are a waste of time IMO.

Of course, YMMV.

-- 
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makes this newsgroup easier to read & more on-topic. Take back the tech
companies from India & industry from China.

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#18244

On 30/09/2026 5:28 am, Dnews wrote:
> So Firefox 157.0 is released...
> Updated and am NOT happy, what's with the round corners in the various
> windows/panes.
> 
> I don't want rounded corners, I like square corners.
> 
> Any known config to return to square corners?
> 
> Thanks
> Dave
> 
> Not forgetting the effing round corners on the main Fx window and the
> bookmarks pane are now occupying a few pixels of my Tabs below bar.
> 
> Off to userChrome to tweak again... If I can remember what to tweak  :-(
> D.
> 
Am I missing something ..... not spending long enough looking at the 
corners of my (non-full screen) Firefox display to see if they are round 
or square or ......
-- 
Daniel70

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#18245

Daniel70 wrote:

> Dnews wrote:
> 
>> I don't want rounded corners, I like square corners.
>
> Am I missing something ..... not spending long enough looking at the 
> corners of my (non-full screen) Firefox display to see if they are round 
> or square or ......

Look at the Tools > Settings page

Personally I mudst say, round, square, doesn't bother me either way ...

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#18253

On 9/30/26 6:05 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
> Daniel70 wrote:
> 
>> Dnews wrote:
>>
>>> I don't want rounded corners, I like square corners.
>>
>> Am I missing something ..... not spending long enough looking at the
>> corners of my (non-full screen) Firefox display to see if they are round
>> or square or ......
> 
> Look at the Tools > Settings page
> 
> Personally I mudst say, round, square, doesn't bother me either way ...
> 
https://postimg.cc/Bj1PZY68
are these the round corners?  If so, I'm on 156.0.1

-- 
Mint 22.3,  Thunderbird 153.3.1esr,  Firefox 156.0.1
     Alan K.

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#18262

On 26/09/30 06:00 AM, Alan K. wrote:
> On 9/30/26 6:05 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
>> Daniel70 wrote:
>>
>>> Dnews wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't want rounded corners, I like square corners.
>>>
>>> Am I missing something ..... not spending long enough looking at the
>>> corners of my (non-full screen) Firefox display to see if they are round
>>> or square or ......
>>
>> Look at the Tools > Settings page
>>
>> Personally I mudst say, round, square, doesn't bother me either way ...
>>
> https://postimg.cc/Bj1PZY68
> are these the round corners?  If so, I'm on 156.0.1

It's kind of rounded, but not as fully rounded as in 157.


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makes this newsgroup easier to read & more on-topic. Take back the tech
companies from India & industry from China.

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#18259

Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
>Daniel70 wrote:
>>Dnews wrote:

>>>I don't want rounded corners, I like square corners.

>>Am I missing something ..... not spending long enough looking at the 
>>corners of my (non-full screen) Firefox display to see if they are round 
>>or square or ......

>Look at the Tools > Settings page

I toggled the about:config preference pointed out by the O.P. elsewhere
in this thread. I found no such setting in about:preferences.

>Personally I mudst say, round, square, doesn't bother me either way ...

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#18260

Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
>>Daniel70 wrote:
>>>Dnews wrote:

>>>>I don't want rounded corners, I like square corners.

>>>Am I missing something ..... not spending long enough looking at the 
>>>corners of my (non-full screen) Firefox display to see if they are round 
>>>or square or ......

>>Look at the Tools > Settings page

>I toggled the about:config preference pointed out by the O.P. elsewhere
>in this thread. I found no such setting in about:preferences.

btw, the corners are less rounded. I haven't seen actual square
corners.

>>Personally I mudst say, round, square, doesn't bother me either way ...

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#18264

"Adam H. Kerman" wrote:

> I toggled the about:config preference pointed out by the O.P. elsewhere
> in this thread. I found no such setting in about:preferences.

sometimes you need to add your own preference (type the missing name, 
choose data type, press plus)

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#18265

Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
>"Adam H. Kerman" wrote:

>>I toggled the about:config preference pointed out by the O.P. elsewhere
>>in this thread. I found no such setting in about:preferences.

>sometimes you need to add your own preference (type the missing name, 
>choose data type, press plus)

an you please explain how to customize about:preferences? I was aware
that a setting may be added to about:config.

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#18266

"Adam H. Kerman" wrote:

> Andy Burns wrote:
> >> Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> 
>>> I toggled the about:config preference pointed out by the O.P. elsewhere
>>> in this thread. I found no such setting in about:preferences.
> 
>> sometimes you need to add your own preference (type the missing name,
>> choose data type, press plus)
> 
> an you please explain how to customize about:preferences? I was aware
> that a setting may be added to about:config.

Sorry, I wasn't paying attention (though Mozilla don't help by calling 
the individual entries on the about:config page "preferences")

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#18293

On Wed, 30 Sep 2026 17:21:59 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> an you please explain how to customize about:preferences? I was aware
> that a setting may be added to about:config.
> 

You want about:config, not about:preferences. Type 
browser.nova.enabled in the search box and then double-slick to 
change it from true (the default, in normal type) to false (in bold 
face, like all non-default settings).

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#18248

In article <119ikrs$3dug$1@dont-email.me>,
   Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> On 30/09/2026 5:28 am, Dnews wrote:
> > So Firefox 157.0 is released...
> > Updated and am NOT happy, what's with the round corners in the various
> > windows/panes.
> > 
> > I don't want rounded corners, I like square corners.
> > 
> > Any known config to return to square corners?
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Dave
> > 
> > Not forgetting the effing round corners on the main Fx window and the
> > bookmarks pane are now occupying a few pixels of my Tabs below bar.
> > 
> > Off to userChrome to tweak again... If I can remember what to tweak  :-(
> > D.
> > 
> Am I missing something ..... not spending long enough looking at the 
> corners of my (non-full screen) Firefox display to see if they are round 
> or square or ......

Yea, I know it looks a bit pathetic, but I'm old and 'wunce' I've tweaked
an app to be as I want it, I get miffed when an external source FU my hard
work.  :-/

Had the rounded corners not intruded into my below tabs space, I'd
probably just grumped and let it go.

I'm very, very attached (Yea I know pun) to my Tabs below the toolbars.

Tabs above is a crime.

D

-- 

Dave Triffid

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#18251

On 30/09/2026 8:37 pm, Dave wrote:
> In article <119ikrs$3dug$1@dont-email.me>,
> Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> On 30/09/2026 5:28 am, Dnews wrote:
>>> So Firefox 157.0 is released...
>>> Updated and am NOT happy, what's with the round corners in the various
>>> windows/panes.
>>>
>>> I don't want rounded corners, I like square corners.
>>>
>>> Any known config to return to square corners?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> Not forgetting the effing round corners on the main Fx window and the
>>> bookmarks pane are now occupying a few pixels of my Tabs below bar.
>>>
>>> Off to userChrome to tweak again... If I can remember what to tweak  :-(
>>> D.
>>>
>> Am I missing something ..... not spending long enough looking at the
>> corners of my (non-full screen) Firefox display to see if they are round
>> or square or ......
> 
> Yea, I know it looks a bit pathetic, but I'm old and 'wunce' I've tweaked
> an app to be as I want it, I get miffed when an external source FU my hard
> work.  :-/

So why had you altered them previously??
-- 
Daniel70

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#18268

In article <119iv12$775f$1@dont-email.me>,
   Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

> So why had you altered them previously??

Personal preference.

Because I want my Tabs below the toolbars. In my universe that's the
logical place for them to be.

Many years ago we had a choice of above or below, then some FW decided to
remove that choice.

Some of us used the userChrome file to correct that anomaly.

D.

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#18271

On 1/10/2026 4:04 am, Dnews wrote:
> In article <119iv12$775f$1@dont-email.me>,
>     Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> 
>> So why had you altered them previously??
> 
> Personal preference.
> 
> Because I want my Tabs below the toolbars. In my universe that's the
> logical place for them to be.
> 
> Many years ago we had a choice of above or below, then some FW decided to
> remove that choice.
> 
> Some of us used the userChrome file to correct that anomaly.
> 
> D.
> 
To each their own ..... but don't you just hate, hate, hate it when some 
Dev tries to enforce their preferences on you?? ;-P

-- 
Daniel70

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#18278

On 2026-09-30 11:04 a.m., Dnews wrote:
> In article <119iv12$775f$1@dont-email.me>,
>     Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> 
>> So why had you altered them previously??
> 
> Personal preference.
> 
> Because I want my Tabs below the toolbars. In my universe that's the
> logical place for them to be.
> 
> Many years ago we had a choice of above or below, then some FW decided to
> remove that choice.
> 
> Some of us used (sic) the userChrome file to correct that anomaly.
> 
> D.

And still do... on a brand spanking new laptop onto which installation 
of both Firefox 157 (and accompanying Thunderbird 156.0.1) plus data 
transfer for both went flawlessly.

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#18256

On 9/30/2026 6:37 AM, Dave wrote:
> In article <119ikrs$3dug$1@dont-email.me>,
>    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> On 30/09/2026 5:28 am, Dnews wrote:
>>> So Firefox 157.0 is released...
>>> Updated and am NOT happy, what's with the round corners in the various
>>> windows/panes.
>>>
>>> I don't want rounded corners, I like square corners.
>>>
>>> Any known config to return to square corners?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> Not forgetting the effing round corners on the main Fx window and the
>>> bookmarks pane are now occupying a few pixels of my Tabs below bar.
>>>
>>> Off to userChrome to tweak again... If I can remember what to tweak  :-(
>>> D.
>>>
>> Am I missing something ..... not spending long enough looking at the 
>> corners of my (non-full screen) Firefox display to see if they are round 
>> or square or ......
> 
> Yea, I know it looks a bit pathetic, but I'm old and 'wunce' I've tweaked
> an app to be as I want it, I get miffed when an external source FU my hard
> work.  :-/
> 
> Had the rounded corners not intruded into my below tabs space, I'd
> probably just grumped and let it go.
> 
> I'm very, very attached (Yea I know pun) to my Tabs below the toolbars.
> 
> Tabs above is a crime.
> 
> D
> 

I'm old too.  Sad to see that you obviously don't have higher priorities
and more important concerns than the shape of the corners of your web
browser!  I'm enjoying my old age because I finally realize what's truly
important in life, and what's just not worth the time, energy, and
higher blood pressure.  Things that used to get me all wound up now just
get shrugged off as too petty to even think about.  End result:  I'm
happier now than I ever have been.  Smile, shrug your shoulders, and
move on to the things that give you joy.

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#18294

On Wed, 30 Sep 2026 10:29:17 -0400, Retirednoguilt wrote:
> Sad to see that you obviously don't have higher priorities
> and more important concerns than the shape of the corners of your web
> browser!

If the shape is so unimportant, why did they spend dev time changing 
it? You're trying to eat your cake and have it too.



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#18295

On 4/10/2026 3:52 pm, Stan Brown wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Sep 2026 10:29:17 -0400, Retirednoguilt wrote:
>> Sad to see that you obviously don't have higher priorities
>> and more important concerns than the shape of the corners of your web
>> browser!
> 
> If the shape is so unimportant, why did they spend dev time changing
> it? You're trying to eat your cake and have it too.
> Maybe because everything else about Firefox is soooo perfect!! ;-P
-- 
Daniel70

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