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A Captcha window problem

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First post2026-07-02 10:59 +0100
Last post2026-07-02 23:25 +0800
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  A Captcha window problem Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-07-02 10:59 +0100
    Re: A Captcha window problem Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-07-02 11:07 +0100
      Re: A Captcha window problem Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-07-02 15:53 +0100
    Re: A Captcha window problem VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2026-07-02 05:42 -0500
    Re: A Captcha window problem "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-02 12:51 +0200
      Re: A Captcha window problem Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-07-02 15:57 +0100
        Re: A Captcha window problem "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-02 22:44 +0200
          Re: A Captcha window problem The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-07-02 19:24 -0700
            Re: A Captcha window problem Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-07-03 07:37 +0100
              Re: A Captcha window problem Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-07-05 09:56 +0100
                Re: A Captcha window problem Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-07-05 10:03 +0100
                  Re: A Captcha window problem Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-07-05 10:21 +0100
                  Re: A Captcha ... Driving test? Old men eye-glasses?? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-07-05 22:54 +0800
                  Re: A Captcha window problem Nobody <jock@soccer.com> - 2026-07-05 08:46 -0700
            Re: A Captcha window problem Retirednoguilt <HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.invalid> - 2026-07-03 09:58 -0400
              Re: A Captcha window problem The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-07-03 08:08 -0700
                Re: A Captcha window problem Retirednoguilt <HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.invalid> - 2026-07-04 10:11 -0400
                  Re: A Captcha window problem The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-07-04 10:09 -0700
                    Re: A Captcha window problem The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-07-04 10:19 -0700
                      Re: A Captcha window problem The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-07-04 10:32 -0700
    Re: A Captcha window problem Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-02 15:46 +0100
    Re: A Captcha window problem "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-07-02 23:23 +0800
      Re: A Captcha window problem R Daneel Olivaw <Danni@hyperspace.vogon.gov.invalid> - 2026-07-02 19:20 +0200
        Re: A Captcha ... Government intervention? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-07-03 12:30 +0800
          Re: A Captcha ... Government intervention? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-07-03 12:32 +0800
    Re: A Captcha window problem "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-07-02 23:25 +0800

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#17560 — A Captcha window problem

FromDnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk>
Date2026-07-02 10:59 +0100
SubjectA Captcha window problem
Message-ID<5cf206adb0dnews@triffid.co.uk>
Good day. :-)

Both SWMBO and I have a weird problem on our respective Win 10 Pro
machines, and wondered what the answer/solution might be.

Using the latest Firefox 152.0.4 or earlier versions...

A website I use, brings up a Captcha window whenever I try to login.

No matter how many times I click the correct images, it never allows me in.

But...

Privately I've contacted on of the site owners, who advises...
"...there should be no captcha on our website."

We have an ongoing discussion about it, but I though asking here might
throw up a few new ideas.

The old cookies for that site have been deleted, Firefox quit and re-run,
visited the site and tried to login again.

Same old an infinite Captcha where one should not exist.

I've been to the Firefox history and deleted all references to that site.
No change.

Any useful thoughts please?
Thanks
D.


Nb: I've also tried with ABP and uBlock Origin switched off for that site.
Same result.

D.

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#17561

FromAndy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
Date2026-07-02 11:07 +0100
Message-ID<namrjrF5l04U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#17560
Dnews wrote:

> A website I use, brings up a Captcha window whenever I try to login.

tried ctrl-F5 ?

> No matter how many times I click the correct images, it never allows me in.

Ignoring whether it should, or should not, have a captcha, sometimes the 
audio version seems easier to "solve"

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#17568

FromDnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk>
Date2026-07-02 15:53 +0100
Message-ID<5cf2219e71dnews@triffid.co.uk>
In reply to#17561
In article <namrjrF5l04U1@mid.individual.net>,
   Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
> Dnews wrote:

> > A website I use, brings up a Captcha window whenever I try to login.

> tried ctrl-F5 ?

> > No matter how many times I click the correct images, it never allows
> > me in.

> Ignoring whether it should, or should not, have a captcha, sometimes the 
> audio version seems easier to "solve"

That's the only way I can get in, but sometimes the sound messages are
mumbled, or full of mush, so not understandable.

D.

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#17562

FromVanguardLH <V@nguard.LH>
Date2026-07-02 05:42 -0500
Message-ID<9gjxb9estztb.dlg@v.nguard.lh>
In reply to#17560
Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

> Both SWMBO and I have a weird problem on our respective Win 10 Pro
> machines, and wondered what the answer/solution might be.
> 
> Using the latest Firefox 152.0.4 or earlier versions...
> 
> A website I use, brings up a Captcha window whenever I try to login.
> 
> No matter how many times I click the correct images, it never allows me in.
> 
> But...
> 
> Privately I've contacted on of the site owners, who advises...
> "...there should be no captcha on our website."
> 
> We have an ongoing discussion about it, but I though asking here might
> throw up a few new ideas.
> 
> The old cookies for that site have been deleted, Firefox quit and re-run,
> visited the site and tried to login again.
> 
> Same old an infinite Captcha where one should not exist.
> 
> I've been to the Firefox history and deleted all references to that site.
> No change.
> 
> Any useful thoughts please?
> Thanks
> D.
> 
> Nb: I've also tried with ABP and uBlock Origin switched off for that site.
> Same result.
> 
> D.


Firefox has an inbuilt adblock list from Disconnect.me.  Go into
settings under Enhanced Tracking Protection, and disable it.  There is
no disable button, so you have to select Custom to deselect all the
filters.  If that doesn't help, go back to whatever ETP level you had
before.

Purge all locally cached data except passwords.  Tis possible you saved
some site preferences in DOM storage, and clearing all history gets rid
of cached pages and DOM storage.

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/delete-browsing-search-download-history-firefox#w_how-do-i-clear-my-history

Select them all, including site preferences.  You want to be sure when
you reload Firefox that you retrieve a fresh and full set of web pages
from the website, not something you cached on prior visits.

The CAPTCHA only appears when you try to login, not when you first visit
their home page?  Could be the website is using someone else's scripts
to do logins.  They just bundle it into their setup without knowing just
what it does.  Just because the website admin doesn't know doesn't mean
he coded the web pages.  Even the devs might know if they're rolling in
someone else's library or scripts to handle the login.

Is it a secret site?  Does the CAPTCHA show up when you land at their
home page?  Does it show up when the login page appears, but you haven't
yet attempted to enter your login credentials?  Knowing the site, but
not having to enter the login, would let others test if they also see
the interfering CAPTCHA.

A problem with many CAPTCHAs is they have preselected tiles you are to
select which really do not match what they tell you on what to click.
They may say to click on all tiles showing motorcycles, but the end of a
handlebar just squeaks into a tile, but the code doesn't accept that
tile despite you can see a wee bit of the handlebar there.  Also, some
CAPTCHAs are set up so when you click on the proper tiles, those tiles
change, and some of them might again show on what you're supposed to
click, so you have to click on those tiles again.  There are 6 matching
tiles, you click on all 6, all 6 change to a different image, and maybe
3 of them have the object you're supposed to click on again.

As Andy mentioned, some CAPTCHAs have an audio link you can click, but
that's usually when you're supposed to fill in a text box.  You can't
read the characters they show you, and repeated cycling through
different fonts doesn't make it any more legible, so the audio cue might
let you hear what are the characters to enter the correct ones into the
text box.

There are different types of CAPTCHAs.  Those with a set of image tiles
you're supposed to click on, those that show a string that is usually
unreadable to bots that you enter in a text box, those that have you do
a math calculation, those that have you press and hold the mouse while a
progress bar fills up, and so on.  

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#17563

From"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-07-02 12:51 +0200
Message-ID<namu66F46ppU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#17560
On 2026-07-02 11:59, Dnews wrote:
> Any useful thoughts please?

Try with a new FFx profile

Try with another browser.

-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.
        ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#17569

FromDnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk>
Date2026-07-02 15:57 +0100
Message-ID<5cf222022ddnews@triffid.co.uk>
In reply to#17563
In article <namu66F46ppU1@mid.individual.net>,
   Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> On 2026-07-02 11:59, Dnews wrote:
> > Any useful thoughts please?

> Try with a new FFx profile

Tried that with my test profile, no change.

> Try with another browser.

Done that with MS-Edge, no change.

Additionally MS-Edges is so little used, I've never been to the particular
site in question using that browser.  

D.

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#17592

From"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-07-02 22:44 +0200
Message-ID<nao0tvFb1jmU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#17569
On 2026-07-02 16:57, Dnews wrote:
> In article <namu66F46ppU1@mid.individual.net>,
>     Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2026-07-02 11:59, Dnews wrote:
>>> Any useful thoughts please?
> 
>> Try with a new FFx profile
> 
> Tried that with my test profile, no change.
> 
>> Try with another browser.
> 
> Done that with MS-Edge, no change.
> 
> Additionally MS-Edges is so little used, I've never been to the particular
> site in question using that browser.
> 
> D.
> 

Typically, when a site behaves strange or badly in FFx, I try with 
Chrome, because chances are the designers only tested that one.

-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.
        ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#17593

FromThe Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
Date2026-07-02 19:24 -0700
Message-ID<11276gh$33328$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#17592
On 7/2/26 13:44, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2026-07-02 16:57, Dnews wrote:
>> In article <namu66F46ppU1@mid.individual.net>,
>>     Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 2026-07-02 11:59, Dnews wrote:
>>>> Any useful thoughts please?
>> 
>>> Try with a new FFx profile
>> 
>> Tried that with my test profile, no change.
>> 
>>> Try with another browser.
>> 
>> Done that with MS-Edge, no change.
>> 
>> Additionally MS-Edges is so little used, I've never been to the particular
>> site in question using that browser.
> 
> Typically, when a site behaves strange or badly in FFx, I try with
> Chrome, because chances are the designers only tested that one.

Some captchas are completely invisible to FF.  You click on a 'submit' 
or equivalent and nothing happens.  Works with chrome, except chrome 
(old, I can't install a newer one on my old hardware) will do something 
that grabs the CPU and crashes the system unless I choose the untweaked 
profile.  IMDB won't work at all on FF and is iffy on Chrome.

Life used to be a lot simpler.

-- 
Cheers, Bev
    When you stop bitching you start dying.

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#17597

FromDnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk>
Date2026-07-03 07:37 +0100
Message-ID<5cf278178fdnews@triffid.co.uk>
In reply to#17593
In article <11276gh$33328$1@dont-email.me>,
   The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:

[Snip]

> Some captchas are completely invisible to FF.  You click on a 'submit' 
> or equivalent and nothing happens.  Works with chrome, except chrome 
> (old, I can't install a newer one on my old hardware) will do something 
> that grabs the CPU and crashes the system unless I choose the untweaked 
> profile.  IMDB won't work at all on FF and is iffy on Chrome.

> Life used to be a lot simpler.

That is so true.  :-)

The  boss man of the site is asking his Tech bods to have a looksee... So
I'm just gonna get on with life and leave it to them.

D.

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#17635

FromDnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk>
Date2026-07-05 09:56 +0100
Message-ID<5cf38c7bb1dnews@triffid.co.uk>
In reply to#17597
In article <5cf278178fdnews@triffid.co.uk>,
   Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <11276gh$33328$1@dont-email.me>,
>    The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:

> [Snip]

> > Some captchas are completely invisible to FF.  You click on a 'submit'
> > or equivalent and nothing happens.  Works with chrome, except chrome
> > (old, I can't install a newer one on my old hardware) will do
> > something that grabs the CPU and crashes the system unless I choose
> > the untweaked profile.  IMDB won't work at all on FF and is iffy on
> > Chrome.

> > Life used to be a lot simpler.

> That is so true.  :-)

> The  boss man of the site is asking his Tech bods to have a looksee... So
> I'm just gonna get on with life and leave it to them.

> D.

Just a little update... ;-)

I've not heard back from the site boss man yet about the fact that there
should not be a Captcha on that particular site...  :-/

Being an "old" man I sometimes kinda forget how things are supposed to
work on these new fangled computer gadgets...  ;-)

Anyway, a friend who does a lot of serious computing stuff, ran me through
how that Captcha thingy is supposed to work.

Suffice to say, even though the site is not supposed to have a Captcha...
but it appears anyway... I can now process the Captcha crap and get in
okay.

Yeehaw! and thanks for all the suggestions presented earlier in the thread.

D.

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#17636

FromAndy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
Date2026-07-05 10:03 +0100
Message-ID<nauku4FclkhU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#17635
Dnews wrote:

> the site is not supposed to have a Captcha... but it appears
> anyway... I can now process the Captcha crap and get in okay.
The thing that bugs me about captchas, if you're meant to be clicking on 
e.g. bicycles, what if part of the rider's body is in a square, should 
you still click it, what if just a few pixels of bicycle cross into a 
square?

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#17637

FromDnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk>
Date2026-07-05 10:21 +0100
Message-ID<5cf38eb1d3dnews@triffid.co.uk>
In reply to#17636
In article <nauku4FclkhU1@mid.individual.net>,
   Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
> Dnews wrote:

> > the site is not supposed to have a Captcha... but it appears
> > anyway... I can now process the Captcha crap and get in okay.

> The thing that bugs me about captchas, if you're meant to be clicking on 
> e.g. bicycles, what if part of the rider's body is in a square, should 
> you still click it, what if just a few pixels of bicycle cross into a 
> square?

Another thing is the scabby nature of some of the images, badly exposed,
fuzzy etc, so some of the time you can't make out what an images is
supposed to be. :-(

D.

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#17638 — Re: A Captcha ... Driving test? Old men eye-glasses??

From"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
Date2026-07-05 22:54 +0800
SubjectRe: A Captcha ... Driving test? Old men eye-glasses??
Message-ID<112dr6u$159dc$3@toylet.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#17636
On 7/5/2026 5:03 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
> Dnews wrote:
> The thing that bugs me about captchas, if you're meant to be clicking on
> e.g. bicycles, what if part of the rider's body is in a square, should
> you still click it, what if just a few pixels of bicycle cross into a
> square?


is that Captcha actually a driving road test?

Do you need to wear old-man eye-glasses to see
them clearly? Check your eyes if necessary. :)


BTW, is there an Usenet newsgroup for old persons?

-- 

    @~@   Simplicity is Beauty! Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch!
   / v \  May the Force and farces be with you! Live long and prosper!!
  /( _ )\ https://sites.google.com/site/changmw/
    ^ ^   https://github.com/changmw/changmw
          The game is afoot... Meow...

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#17641

FromNobody <jock@soccer.com>
Date2026-07-05 08:46 -0700
Message-ID<lruk4l59hqa733uqfdimj3t0tc0r0ubik6@4ax.com>
In reply to#17636
On Sun, 5 Jul 2026 10:03:30 +0100, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
wrote:

>Dnews wrote:
>
>> the site is not supposed to have a Captcha... but it appears
>> anyway... I can now process the Captcha crap and get in okay.

>The thing that bugs me about captchas, if you're meant to be clicking on 
>e.g. bicycles, what if part of the rider's body is in a square, should 
>you still click it, what if just a few pixels of bicycle cross into a 
>square?

I wouldn't for any body part.  The other is a crap shoot.

I seem to hit very few Captcha requests... but occasionally the
possible "few pixels" will lead into a dance of three or four
different requests before I succeed,

As for Dnews and the fuzzy wuzzies, that I'd propose is deliberate.

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#17602

FromRetirednoguilt <HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.invalid>
Date2026-07-03 09:58 -0400
Message-ID<1128f6i$3egvg$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#17593
On 7/2/2026 10:24 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 7/2/26 13:44, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> On 2026-07-02 16:57, Dnews wrote:
>>> In article <namu66F46ppU1@mid.individual.net>,
>>>     Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On 2026-07-02 11:59, Dnews wrote:
>>>>> Any useful thoughts please?
>>>
>>>> Try with a new FFx profile
>>>
>>> Tried that with my test profile, no change.
>>>
>>>> Try with another browser.
>>>
>>> Done that with MS-Edge, no change.
>>>
>>> Additionally MS-Edges is so little used, I've never been to the particular
>>> site in question using that browser.
>>
>> Typically, when a site behaves strange or badly in FFx, I try with
>> Chrome, because chances are the designers only tested that one.
> 
> Some captchas are completely invisible to FF.  You click on a 'submit' 
> or equivalent and nothing happens.  Works with chrome, except chrome 
> (old, I can't install a newer one on my old hardware) will do something 
> that grabs the CPU and crashes the system unless I choose the untweaked 
> profile.  IMDB won't work at all on FF and is iffy on Chrome.
> 
> Life used to be a lot simpler.
> 
I have no problem getting to IMDB with the latest FF.  However, I get
there indirectly.  I have IMDB in my list of search engines in the
appropriate location in FF settings.  I generally know which film I want
to search on so I put the name of that film in the search bar, select
IMDB from the drop down search  choices, and no problem!

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#17605

FromThe Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
Date2026-07-03 08:08 -0700
Message-ID<1128ja9$3fjf7$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#17602
On 7/3/26 06:58, Retirednoguilt wrote:
> On 7/2/2026 10:24 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
>> On 7/2/26 13:44, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>> On 2026-07-02 16:57, Dnews wrote:
>>>> In article <namu66F46ppU1@mid.individual.net>,
>>>>     Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> On 2026-07-02 11:59, Dnews wrote:
>>>>>> Any useful thoughts please?
>>>>
>>>>> Try with a new FFx profile
>>>>
>>>> Tried that with my test profile, no change.
>>>>
>>>>> Try with another browser.
>>>>
>>>> Done that with MS-Edge, no change.
>>>>
>>>> Additionally MS-Edges is so little used, I've never been to the particular
>>>> site in question using that browser.
>>>
>>> Typically, when a site behaves strange or badly in FFx, I try with
>>> Chrome, because chances are the designers only tested that one.
>> 
>> Some captchas are completely invisible to FF.  You click on a 'submit' 
>> or equivalent and nothing happens.  Works with chrome, except chrome 
>> (old, I can't install a newer one on my old hardware) will do something 
>> that grabs the CPU and crashes the system unless I choose the untweaked 
>> profile.  IMDB won't work at all on FF and is iffy on Chrome.
>> 
>> Life used to be a lot simpler.
>> 
> I have no problem getting to IMDB with the latest FF.  However, I get
> there indirectly.  I have IMDB in my list of search engines in the
> appropriate location in FF settings.  I generally know which film I want
> to search on so I put the name of that film in the search bar, select
> IMDB from the drop down search  choices, and no problem!

If I contrul-u, the generated blank page shows that it thinks that 
javascript is disabled.  It's not.

-- 
Cheers, Bev
    Don't tax me. Don't tax thee. Tax that man behind the tree.

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#17622

FromRetirednoguilt <HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.invalid>
Date2026-07-04 10:11 -0400
Message-ID<112b4ab$6f0j$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#17605
On 7/3/2026 11:08 AM, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 7/3/26 06:58, Retirednoguilt wrote:
>> On 7/2/2026 10:24 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
>>> On 7/2/26 13:44, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>> On 2026-07-02 16:57, Dnews wrote:
>>>>> In article <namu66F46ppU1@mid.individual.net>,
>>>>>     Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> On 2026-07-02 11:59, Dnews wrote:
>>>>>>> Any useful thoughts please?
>>>>>
>>>>>> Try with a new FFx profile
>>>>>
>>>>> Tried that with my test profile, no change.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Try with another browser.
>>>>>
>>>>> Done that with MS-Edge, no change.
>>>>>
>>>>> Additionally MS-Edges is so little used, I've never been to the particular
>>>>> site in question using that browser.
>>>>
>>>> Typically, when a site behaves strange or badly in FFx, I try with
>>>> Chrome, because chances are the designers only tested that one.
>>>
>>> Some captchas are completely invisible to FF.  You click on a 'submit' 
>>> or equivalent and nothing happens.  Works with chrome, except chrome 
>>> (old, I can't install a newer one on my old hardware) will do something 
>>> that grabs the CPU and crashes the system unless I choose the untweaked 
>>> profile.  IMDB won't work at all on FF and is iffy on Chrome.
>>>
>>> Life used to be a lot simpler.
>>>
>> I have no problem getting to IMDB with the latest FF.  However, I get
>> there indirectly.  I have IMDB in my list of search engines in the
>> appropriate location in FF settings.  I generally know which film I want
>> to search on so I put the name of that film in the search bar, select
>> IMDB from the drop down search  choices, and no problem!
> 
> If I contrul-u, the generated blank page shows that it thinks that 
> javascript is disabled.  It's not.
> 
By any chance, have you installed the same ad blocker or privacy
protector add-on to both FF and Edge?  Have you tried using FF in the
"troubleshoot" mode (Help -> Troubleshoot mode)?

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#17627

FromThe Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
Date2026-07-04 10:09 -0700
Message-ID<112benu$a58j$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#17622
On 7/4/26 07:11, Retirednoguilt wrote:
> On 7/3/2026 11:08 AM, The Real Bev wrote:
>> On 7/3/26 06:58, Retirednoguilt wrote:
>>> On 7/2/2026 10:24 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
>>>> On 7/2/26 13:44, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>>> On 2026-07-02 16:57, Dnews wrote:
>>>>>> In article <namu66F46ppU1@mid.individual.net>,
>>>>>>     Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2026-07-02 11:59, Dnews wrote:
>>>>>>>> Any useful thoughts please?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Try with a new FFx profile
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tried that with my test profile, no change.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Try with another browser.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Done that with MS-Edge, no change.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Additionally MS-Edges is so little used, I've never been to the particular
>>>>>> site in question using that browser.
>>>>>
>>>>> Typically, when a site behaves strange or badly in FFx, I try with
>>>>> Chrome, because chances are the designers only tested that one.
>>>>
>>>> Some captchas are completely invisible to FF.  You click on a 'submit' 
>>>> or equivalent and nothing happens.  Works with chrome, except chrome 
>>>> (old, I can't install a newer one on my old hardware) will do something 
>>>> that grabs the CPU and crashes the system unless I choose the untweaked 
>>>> profile.  IMDB won't work at all on FF and is iffy on Chrome.
>>>>
>>>> Life used to be a lot simpler.
>>>>
>>> I have no problem getting to IMDB with the latest FF.  However, I get
>>> there indirectly.  I have IMDB in my list of search engines in the
>>> appropriate location in FF settings.  I generally know which film I want
>>> to search on so I put the name of that film in the search bar, select
>>> IMDB from the drop down search  choices, and no problem!
>> 
>> If I contrul-u, the generated blank page shows that it thinks that 
>> javascript is disabled.  It's not.
>> 
> By any chance, have you installed the same ad blocker or privacy
> protector add-on to both FF and Edge?  Have you tried using FF in the
> "troubleshoot" mode (Help -> Troubleshoot mode)?

No, but I will.  Generally the first-level 'help' anywhere is only of 
use to people who didn't read the instructions so I rarely use it.

-- 
Cheers, Bev
  "Once you've provoked a few people into publicly swearing they are
   going  to hunt you down and kill you, the thrill wears off."
                                                   -Elric of Imrryr

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#17628

FromThe Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
Date2026-07-04 10:19 -0700
Message-ID<112bfam$a58j$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#17627
On 7/4/26 10:09, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 7/4/26 07:11, Retirednoguilt wrote:
>> On 7/3/2026 11:08 AM, The Real Bev wrote:
>>> On 7/3/26 06:58, Retirednoguilt wrote:
>>>> On 7/2/2026 10:24 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
>>>>> On 7/2/26 13:44, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>>>> On 2026-07-02 16:57, Dnews wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <namu66F46ppU1@mid.individual.net>,
>>>>>>>     Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2026-07-02 11:59, Dnews wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Any useful thoughts please?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Try with a new FFx profile
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tried that with my test profile, no change.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Try with another browser.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Done that with MS-Edge, no change.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Additionally MS-Edges is so little used, I've never been to the particular
>>>>>>> site in question using that browser.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Typically, when a site behaves strange or badly in FFx, I try with
>>>>>> Chrome, because chances are the designers only tested that one.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some captchas are completely invisible to FF.  You click on a 'submit' 
>>>>> or equivalent and nothing happens.  Works with chrome, except chrome 
>>>>> (old, I can't install a newer one on my old hardware) will do something 
>>>>> that grabs the CPU and crashes the system unless I choose the untweaked 
>>>>> profile.  IMDB won't work at all on FF and is iffy on Chrome.
>>>>>
>>>>> Life used to be a lot simpler.
>>>>>
>>>> I have no problem getting to IMDB with the latest FF.  However, I get
>>>> there indirectly.  I have IMDB in my list of search engines in the
>>>> appropriate location in FF settings.  I generally know which film I want
>>>> to search on so I put the name of that film in the search bar, select
>>>> IMDB from the drop down search  choices, and no problem!
>>> 
>>> If I contrul-u, the generated blank page shows that it thinks that 
>>> javascript is disabled.  It's not.
>>> 
>> By any chance, have you installed the same ad blocker or privacy
>> protector add-on to both FF and Edge?  Have you tried using FF in the
>> "troubleshoot" mode (Help -> Troubleshoot mode)?
> 
> No, but I will.  Generally the first-level 'help' anywhere is only of
> use to people who didn't read the instructions so I rarely use it.

OK, I just tried that with IMDB and it seemed to work.  The problem is 
that it requires a restart -- not a deal-killer, just an annoyance, 
especially since it kills my tabs-at-the-side thing and the first time 
that happened I couldn't remember how to get it back.  Perhaps there's 
an extension that throws up a new "virgin" window...

-- 
Cheers, Bev
  "Once you've provoked a few people into publicly swearing they are
   going  to hunt you down and kill you, the thrill wears off."
                                                   -Elric of Imrryr

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#17629

FromThe Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
Date2026-07-04 10:32 -0700
Message-ID<112bg48$a58j$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#17628
On 7/4/26 10:19, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 7/4/26 10:09, The Real Bev wrote:
>> On 7/4/26 07:11, Retirednoguilt wrote:
>>> On 7/3/2026 11:08 AM, The Real Bev wrote:
>>>> On 7/3/26 06:58, Retirednoguilt wrote:
>>>>> On 7/2/2026 10:24 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/2/26 13:44, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2026-07-02 16:57, Dnews wrote:
>>>>>>>> In article <namu66F46ppU1@mid.individual.net>,
>>>>>>>>     Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2026-07-02 11:59, Dnews wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Any useful thoughts please?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Try with a new FFx profile
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tried that with my test profile, no change.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Try with another browser.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Done that with MS-Edge, no change.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Additionally MS-Edges is so little used, I've never been to the particular
>>>>>>>> site in question using that browser.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Typically, when a site behaves strange or badly in FFx, I try with
>>>>>>> Chrome, because chances are the designers only tested that one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some captchas are completely invisible to FF.  You click on a 'submit' 
>>>>>> or equivalent and nothing happens.  Works with chrome, except chrome 
>>>>>> (old, I can't install a newer one on my old hardware) will do something 
>>>>>> that grabs the CPU and crashes the system unless I choose the untweaked 
>>>>>> profile.  IMDB won't work at all on FF and is iffy on Chrome.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Life used to be a lot simpler.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I have no problem getting to IMDB with the latest FF.  However, I get
>>>>> there indirectly.  I have IMDB in my list of search engines in the
>>>>> appropriate location in FF settings.  I generally know which film I want
>>>>> to search on so I put the name of that film in the search bar, select
>>>>> IMDB from the drop down search  choices, and no problem!
>>>> 
>>>> If I contrul-u, the generated blank page shows that it thinks that 
>>>> javascript is disabled.  It's not.
>>>> 
>>> By any chance, have you installed the same ad blocker or privacy
>>> protector add-on to both FF and Edge?  Have you tried using FF in the
>>> "troubleshoot" mode (Help -> Troubleshoot mode)?
>> 
>> No, but I will.  Generally the first-level 'help' anywhere is only of
>> use to people who didn't read the instructions so I rarely use it.
> 
> OK, I just tried that with IMDB and it seemed to work.  The problem is
> that it requires a restart -- not a deal-killer, just an annoyance,
> especially since it kills my tabs-at-the-side thing and the first time
> that happened I couldn't remember how to get it back.  Perhaps there's
> an extension that throws up a new "virgin" window...
Nope, but I created a virgin profile so I can just keep that version of 
FF running for emergencies while I actually use the REAL one. My choice 
of extensions causes a number of problems, but I've pared the list down 
to just the ones I can't live without.  Like "mouse pets" so I can find 
the damn cursor! Carry on...

-- 
Cheers, Bev
  "Once you've provoked a few people into publicly swearing they are
   going  to hunt you down and kill you, the thrill wears off."
                                                   -Elric of Imrryr

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