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Re: Firefox ESR

From	Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com>
Newsgroups	alt.comp.software.firefox
Subject	Re: Firefox ESR
Date	2021-04-28 18:29 +0000
Organization	Some absurd concept
Message-ID	<eli$2104281429@qaz.wtf> (permalink)
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In alt.comp.software.firefox, Michael Trew  <mt999999@ymail.com> wrote:
> On 4/28/2021 12:27 AM, VanguardLH wrote:
>> So, how often per year do you click on ftp:// hyperlinks in web pages?
> Not often, but as John mentioned, why pull it?

Apparently the ftp code is very old (relative to the browser) and
has had a lot less work. So more room for security problems to be
overlooked until being exploited. And maintaining old code has a
cost:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1219194#c4

Five years ago they switched to only taking security fixes for FTP.

Face it, web browsers are the most highly targeted pieces of software
on a typical home user's device. Streamlining to reduce attack surface
is a win.

> Going strong for 50 years and then cut the plug.

To be fair, *web browsers* haven't existed for 50 years. Firefox pulling
support does not mean other clients won't still exist. When did Firefox
ditch Gopher? People are still using that and it's less than 50 years
old.

> I'll be sorely disappointed if they discontinue http:// as well. Is
> the security loophole that bad? I use several older non-HTTPS web
> sites.

For http there is a huge amount of code overlap with https. Most of the
difference is the verification of source site and understanding if
multiple protocols are used in the same resource. I expect that
warnings, a-la bad SSL certs, will happen some years before http itself
would be disabled. And I don't expect either this decade.

Elijah
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is not at all privy to internal Mozilla discussion

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Firefox ESR Michael Trew <mt999999@ymail.com> - 2021-04-27 23:29 -0400
  Re: Firefox ESR Michael Trew <mt999999@ymail.com> - 2021-04-27 23:30 -0400
    Re: Firefox ESR VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2021-04-27 23:27 -0500
      Re: Firefox ESR Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2021-04-28 07:13 +0100
        Re: Firefox ESR Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2021-04-28 07:17 +0100
        Re: Firefox ESR VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2021-04-28 02:01 -0500
          Re: Firefox ESR VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2021-04-28 02:03 -0500
          Firefox ESR Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2021-04-28 08:57 +0100
            Re: Firefox ESR Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2021-04-28 10:39 +0100
              Firefox ESR Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2021-04-28 14:49 +0100
        Re: Firefox ESR PietB <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2021-04-28 10:00 +0200
      Re: Firefox ESR "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2021-04-28 18:00 +0100
        Re: Firefox ESR PietB <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2021-04-28 20:55 +0200
        Re: Firefox ESR VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2021-04-28 14:50 -0500
          Re: Firefox ESR Dave Royal<dave@dave123royal.com> - 2021-04-28 20:46 +0000
          Re: Firefox ESR "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2021-04-28 21:54 +0100
          Re: Firefox ESR Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2021-04-28 21:02 +0000
            Re: Firefox ESR VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2021-04-29 00:12 -0500
              Keywords header (was: Re: Firefox ESR) Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2021-04-29 17:37 +0000
                Re: Keywords header VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2021-05-06 05:52 -0500
                Re: Keywords header VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2021-05-06 06:06 -0500
                Re: Keywords header !@!.invalid (Ï) - 2021-05-06 14:39 +0100
                Re: Keywords header "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2021-05-06 15:14 +0000
                Re: Keywords header "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2021-05-06 18:04 +0100
                Re: Keywords header VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2021-05-08 15:01 -0500
                Re: Keywords header "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2021-05-08 21:08 +0000
                Re: Keywords header VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2021-05-08 16:37 -0500
                Re: Keywords header !@!.invalid (Ï) - 2021-05-08 22:52 +0100
                Re: Keywords header Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2021-05-06 17:49 +0000
                Re: Keywords header VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2021-05-08 15:40 -0500
                Re: Keywords header Miguel Tomar Nogueira <mnogueira@mail.telepac.pt> - 2021-05-09 05:58 +0000
                Re: Keywords header Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2021-05-09 17:24 +0000
                Re: Keywords header Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2021-05-06 18:11 +0000
                Panix spammifying of submissions (was: Keywords header) VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2021-05-08 16:30 -0500
                Re: Panix spammifying of submissions (was: Keywords header) danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> - 2021-05-08 21:52 +0000
                Re: Panix spammifying of submissions (was: Keywords header) Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2021-05-10 02:34 +0000
      Re: Firefox ESR Michael Trew <mt999999@ymail.com> - 2021-04-28 13:52 -0400
        Re: Firefox ESR Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2021-04-28 18:29 +0000
          Re: Firefox ESR Michael Trew <mt999999@ymail.com> - 2021-04-28 23:26 -0400
            Re: Firefox ESR Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2021-04-29 12:52 +0000
        Re: Firefox ESR Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2021-04-29 12:45 +0000
          Re: Firefox ESR "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2021-04-29 13:22 +0000
            Re: Firefox ESR Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2021-04-29 13:53 +0000
              Re: Firefox ESR "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2021-04-29 18:32 +0000
                Re: Firefox ESR Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2021-04-29 20:31 +0000
            Re: Firefox ESR "OldbieOne" <me@here.com> - 2021-05-03 14:17 -0400
              Re: Firefox ESR PietB <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2021-05-08 16:58 +0200
                Re: Firefox ESR "OldbieOne" <me@here.com> - 2021-05-19 10:52 -0400
                Re: Firefox ESR Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2021-05-19 09:10 -0700
                Re: Firefox ESR "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2021-05-19 16:35 +0000
                Re: Firefox ESR "OldbieOne" <me@here.com> - 2021-05-19 15:16 -0400
                Re: Firefox ESR Job Bautista <jobbautista9@aol.com> - 2021-05-20 18:35 +0800
                Re: Firefox ESR "OldbieOne" <me@here.com> - 2021-05-25 12:32 -0400
                Re: Firefox ESR WaltS48 <schw01@invalid.net> - 2021-05-25 15:16 -0400
          Re: Firefox ESR Miguel Tomar Nogueira <mnogueira@mail.telepac.pt> - 2021-05-09 06:18 +0000
    Re: Firefox ESR chris@here.com - 2021-04-27 23:31 -0500
      Re: Firefox ESR Michael Trew <mt999999@ymail.com> - 2021-04-28 13:53 -0400
  Re: Firefox ESR VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2021-04-27 23:26 -0500

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