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How does Copilot know WHO you are?

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  How does Copilot know WHO you are? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-21 03:11 +0000
    Re: How does Copilot know WHO you are? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-21 02:33 -0400
      Re: How does Copilot know WHO you are? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-21 21:57 +0000
        Re: How does Copilot know WHO you are? Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-03-21 17:21 -0500
          Re: How does Copilot know WHO you are? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-21 23:38 -0400
          Re: How does Copilot know WHO you are? Peter Johnson <peter@parksidewood.nospam> - 2025-03-22 13:21 +0000
      Re: How does Copilot know WHO you are? Kash Patel <kash.patel@fbi.gov> - 2025-03-22 17:00 +0000
        Re: How does Copilot know WHO you are? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-03-31 20:47 +1100
    Re: How does Copilot know WHO you are? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-03-21 13:35 -0400

#17842 — How does Copilot know WHO you are?

I do not log into a Microsoft account on Windows 10.
I don't even have a Microsoft account to log into.

Yet, Copilot just said it would "keep an eye out" for me if it finds
something specific in the future that I am looking for. How can it do that?
 <https://i.postimg.cc/q7mY13vX/copilot-tracking.jpg>

Does Copilot know who I am?
Or is it just going to keep track for everyone who asks?

What did I accomplish by saying "yes"?

  =======================
  Would you like me to keep an eye out for updates on this topic?

  yes.

  Got it! I'll keep tabs on any updates about privacy-focused messaging 
  apps, particularly those that plan to support SMS, MMS, RCS, and MLS 
  later this year. If anything pops up, I'll share the details with you. 
  Feel free to check in if you're curious about developments along the way!
  =======================

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#17844

On Thu, 3/20/2025 11:11 PM, Marion wrote:
> I do not log into a Microsoft account on Windows 10.
> I don't even have a Microsoft account to log into.
> 
> Yet, Copilot just said it would "keep an eye out" for me if it finds
> something specific in the future that I am looking for. How can it do that?
> <https://i.postimg.cc/q7mY13vX/copilot-tracking.jpg>
> 
> Does Copilot know who I am?
> Or is it just going to keep track for everyone who asks?
> 
> What did I accomplish by saying "yes"?
> 
>  =======================
>  Would you like me to keep an eye out for updates on this topic?
> 
>  yes.
> 
>  Got it! I'll keep tabs on any updates about privacy-focused messaging  apps, particularly those that plan to support SMS, MMS, RCS, and MLS  later this year. If anything pops up, I'll share the details with you.  Feel free to check in if you're curious about developments along the way!
>  =======================

The CoPilot in the MSEdge, assumes your login MSA applies
to your MSEdge session, and it stores session details
against that MSA. If I use the CoPilot in the upper right
of MSEdge, it never asks me to log in.

The CoPilot App on the other hand, begs you to sign in.
Which is a weird behavior.

I suspect CoPilot is using a Service Worker in MSEdge.
The CoPilot App could be using WebView, in which case
a parallel structure might exist. I had not expected to
see an operational Service Worker on the machine, because
I don't generally allow that. I am tempted to delete it,
but that could make a mess.

The only unknown then, is why does the CoPilot App cling
to the notion it is not saving the session against the
current owner of the desktop. I don't use the CoPilot App,
but I did open it long enough to see the request. Am I actually
going to go find my password and log in ? Ah, No.

   Paul

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#17849

On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 02:33:39 -0400, Paul wrote :


> The CoPilot in the MSEdge, assumes your login MSA applies
> to your MSEdge session, and it stores session details
> against that MSA. If I use the CoPilot in the upper right
> of MSEdge, it never asks me to log in.

For obvious reasons, I never use Edge but that's good to know. 
I wonder how it does it when you don't have a MS account?

> The CoPilot App on the other hand, begs you to sign in.
> Which is a weird behavior.

Yes. Ten, maybe twenty times a day. And it begs you to converse back, even
giving you pre-selected choices for YOUR responses. Gemini doesn't do that.

> I suspect CoPilot is using a Service Worker in MSEdge.

Hmm. Good start. Or, it could just be Copilot was wrong. It might be like
when my kids tell me they'll do something but they have no intention of it.

> The CoPilot App could be using WebView, in which case
> a parallel structure might exist. I had not expected to
> see an operational Service Worker on the machine, because
> I don't generally allow that. I am tempted to delete it,
> but that could make a mess.

I'm tempted to remove Copilot but I compare it with Gemini.
So far (one day) I find gemini far more mature. And less comical.

> The only unknown then, is why does the CoPilot App cling
> to the notion it is not saving the session against the
> current owner of the desktop. I don't use the CoPilot App,
> but I did open it long enough to see the request. Am I actually
> going to go find my password and log in ? Ah, No.

I looked it up a bit more and I don't;t think copilot can save sessions so
I think Copilot assumed I was logged in, when it's impossible to do so.

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#17851

Marion wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 02:33:39 -0400, Paul wrote :
> 
> 
>> The CoPilot in the MSEdge, assumes your login MSA applies
>> to your MSEdge session, and it stores session details
>> against that MSA. If I use the CoPilot in the upper right
>> of MSEdge, it never asks me to log in.
> 
> For obvious reasons, I never use Edge but that's good to know. I wonder 
> how it does it when you don't have a MS account?
> 
>> The CoPilot App on the other hand, begs you to sign in.
>> Which is a weird behavior.
> 
> Yes. Ten, maybe twenty times a day. And it begs you to converse back, even
> giving you pre-selected choices for YOUR responses. Gemini doesn't do that.
> 
>> I suspect CoPilot is using a Service Worker in MSEdge.
> 
> Hmm. Good start. Or, it could just be Copilot was wrong. It might be like
> when my kids tell me they'll do something but they have no intention of it.
> 
>> The CoPilot App could be using WebView, in which case
>> a parallel structure might exist. I had not expected to
>> see an operational Service Worker on the machine, because
>> I don't generally allow that. I am tempted to delete it,
>> but that could make a mess.
> 
> I'm tempted to remove Copilot but I compare it with Gemini.
> So far (one day) I find gemini far more mature. And less comical.
> 
>> The only unknown then, is why does the CoPilot App cling
>> to the notion it is not saving the session against the
>> current owner of the desktop. I don't use the CoPilot App,
>> but I did open it long enough to see the request. Am I actually
>> going to go find my password and log in ? Ah, No.
> 
> I looked it up a bit more and I don't;t think copilot can save sessions so
> I think Copilot assumed I was logged in, when it's impossible to do so.

I was able to turn off all this crap off in windows 11.  But I'm running 
it on a very old machine, so maybe you can't do that if you have fancy 
new hardware?

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#17854

On Fri, 3/21/2025 6:21 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
> Marion wrote:
>> On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 02:33:39 -0400, Paul wrote :
>>
>>
>>> The CoPilot in the MSEdge, assumes your login MSA applies
>>> to your MSEdge session, and it stores session details
>>> against that MSA. If I use the CoPilot in the upper right
>>> of MSEdge, it never asks me to log in.
>>
>> For obvious reasons, I never use Edge but that's good to know. I wonder how it does it when you don't have a MS account?
>>
>>> The CoPilot App on the other hand, begs you to sign in.
>>> Which is a weird behavior.
>>
>> Yes. Ten, maybe twenty times a day. And it begs you to converse back, even
>> giving you pre-selected choices for YOUR responses. Gemini doesn't do that.
>>
>>> I suspect CoPilot is using a Service Worker in MSEdge.
>>
>> Hmm. Good start. Or, it could just be Copilot was wrong. It might be like
>> when my kids tell me they'll do something but they have no intention of it.
>>
>>> The CoPilot App could be using WebView, in which case
>>> a parallel structure might exist. I had not expected to
>>> see an operational Service Worker on the machine, because
>>> I don't generally allow that. I am tempted to delete it,
>>> but that could make a mess.
>>
>> I'm tempted to remove Copilot but I compare it with Gemini.
>> So far (one day) I find gemini far more mature. And less comical.
>>
>>> The only unknown then, is why does the CoPilot App cling
>>> to the notion it is not saving the session against the
>>> current owner of the desktop. I don't use the CoPilot App,
>>> but I did open it long enough to see the request. Am I actually
>>> going to go find my password and log in ? Ah, No.
>>
>> I looked it up a bit more and I don't;t think copilot can save sessions so
>> I think Copilot assumed I was logged in, when it's impossible to do so.
> 
> I was able to turn off all this crap off in windows 11.  But I'm
> running it on a very old machine, so maybe you can't do 
> that if you have fancy new hardware?

The CoPilot is passive, and does not involved any more of a privacy
leak, than the existing structure on the machine. You would
need to remove all the copies of MSEdge, to have a start at
privacy.

If you are not using CoPilot, it's not plotting the takeover
of the machine while you sleep. I would be a lot more
interested in the "News and Interests" and the unstoppable
Location Service that uses. That would be a better use of
your time.

   Paul

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#17855

On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 17:21:09 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
wrote:


>
>I was able to turn off all this crap off in windows 11.  But I'm running 
>it on a very old machine, so maybe you can't do that if you have fancy 
>new hardware?

I turned it off, Co-Pilot, on my up-to-date PC. 

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#17858

> On Thu, 3/20/2025 11:11 PM, Marion wrote:
>> I do not log into a Microsoft account on Windows 10.
>> I don't even have a Microsoft account to log into.
>>
>> Yet, Copilot just said it would "keep an eye out" for me if it finds
>> something specific in the future that I am looking for. How can it do that?
>> <https://i.postimg.cc/q7mY13vX/copilot-tracking.jpg>
>>
>> Does Copilot know who I am?

Yes copilot knows everything about you, Arlern. It has an Artificial 
Intelligence built in and it knows how to use it effectively.

Have you been living under a rock abusing young boys? AI is here and it 
is able to know everything about users of Windows System whether 
knowingly or unknowingly.

You better stop using Windows and use something else or stop abusing 
young boys.

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#18098

On 23/03/2025 4:00 am, Kash Patel wrote:
>> On Thu, 3/20/2025 11:11 PM, Marion wrote:
>>> I do not log into a Microsoft account on Windows 10.
>>> I don't even have a Microsoft account to log into.
>>>
>>> Yet, Copilot just said it would "keep an eye out" for me if it finds
>>> something specific in the future that I am looking for. How can it do that?
>>> <https://i.postimg.cc/q7mY13vX/copilot-tracking.jpg>
>>>
>>> Does Copilot know who I am?
> 
> Yes copilot knows everything about you, Arlern. It has an Artificial
> Intelligence built in and it knows how to use it effectively.

"It has an Artificial Intelligence built in"?? Really?? So our little 
Desktop or Laptop Computers are 'big enough' to house a full-blown AI!! 
Really??

I had thought it might have just been phoning home to MS and making use 
of THEIR greater Resources. But what would I know?? Not much, it seems!!

> Have you been living under a rock

Obviously!! ;-P
-- 
Daniel70

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#17845

In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Fri, 21 Mar 2025 03:11:44 -0000 (UTC),
Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:

>I do not log into a Microsoft account on Windows 10.
>I don't even have a Microsoft account to log into.
>
>Yet, Copilot just said it would "keep an eye out" for me if it finds
>something specific in the future that I am looking for. How can it do that?
> <https://i.postimg.cc/q7mY13vX/copilot-tracking.jpg>
>
>Does Copilot know who I am?
>Or is it just going to keep track for everyone who asks?

Or maybe it's bluffing and doesn't realize or doesn't care that it
doesn't know who you are. 

Sort of like all those girls who say to me, I'll invite you to my next
party 
>
>What did I accomplish by saying "yes"?
>
>  =======================
>  Would you like me to keep an eye out for updates on this topic?
>
>  yes.
>
>  Got it! I'll keep tabs on any updates about privacy-focused messaging 
>  apps, particularly those that plan to support SMS, MMS, RCS, and MLS 
>  later this year. If anything pops up, I'll share the details with you. 
>  Feel free to check in if you're curious about developments along the way!
>  =======================

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