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| Started by | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| First post | 2024-12-31 19:08 +0000 |
| Last post | 2025-01-07 02:07 +0000 |
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This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-31 19:08 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 15:19 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2024-12-31 15:41 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-31 21:09 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 21:40 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 22:14 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 22:16 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 22:46 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-01 07:50 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-01 08:37 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-01 09:20 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-01 10:06 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-01 23:31 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-01 19:26 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-02 19:14 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-01 09:38 -0600
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Gregg Fowler <totsob@yahoo.com> - 2025-01-01 14:45 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-01 10:20 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 11:42 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-01 19:28 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 14:34 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-01 18:17 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 18:30 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-01 19:23 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 20:10 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-02 08:32 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-02 19:00 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-02 15:04 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-03 15:18 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-04 20:10 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-01 23:46 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 00:15 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-02 08:58 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 12:11 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-01 23:38 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 18:54 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-01 19:28 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-01 23:59 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 00:16 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-02 05:31 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-02 18:21 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-02 21:55 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-03 10:18 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-03 21:25 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-04 13:06 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-04 09:48 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-05 00:28 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-04 21:16 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-05 02:44 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-01-04 13:29 -0700
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-02 08:55 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-02 19:22 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-02 15:04 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-03 01:58 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-02 22:12 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-03 08:41 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-03 07:16 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-03 20:24 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-03 15:38 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-02 22:36 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-03 11:26 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-03 06:13 -0600
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-03 13:47 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-03 21:26 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-03 20:24 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-04 06:43 -0600
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-04 10:20 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-04 13:47 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-04 13:16 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-05 00:26 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-05 14:35 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-06 00:15 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-06 14:47 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-06 20:20 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-04 20:21 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-02 18:50 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-02 21:57 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-02 22:41 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-03 10:37 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-03 10:28 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-01 20:19 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 15:24 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-01 21:14 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 17:10 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-02 00:19 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-01 22:12 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-02 19:26 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-01 23:53 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-01 21:54 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-01 22:42 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-02 05:29 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-02 18:39 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-02 21:56 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-03 10:18 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-03 21:27 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-01-26 19:07 +1100
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-27 17:14 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-31 20:45 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-01 01:27 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 21:33 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-01 13:45 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-01-02 13:50 +0100
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-02 09:47 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 10:37 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-03 05:20 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-03 16:48 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-04 20:32 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-01-05 01:39 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2025-01-05 00:43 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-05 02:45 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2025-01-08 00:00 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-05 14:14 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-06 00:15 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-05 22:29 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-06 06:29 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2025-01-08 00:09 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-08 02:24 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:44 -0500
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 09:02 -0700
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-06 14:48 +0000
Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-07 02:07 +0000
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-01 13:45 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing |
| Message-ID | <vl42gu$2t6t2$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #15848 |
On Tue, 12/31/2024 2:08 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > Yet another > <https://www.zdnet.com/article/new-windows-11-24h2-bug-could-block-future-security-updates-see-whos-affected/> > in the ongoing stream of bugs from Microsoft resulting from the > Windows update process itself. This one breaks the ability to receive > further security updates. So once you get it, how do you get an update > to fix it? Particularly when there have already been updates that kept > introducing their own new bugs? > Wow, you take two minutes to have a piss and this happens :-) I had trouble spotting the byline, and using archive.org and the mess that makes of the screen, made it stand out better. Written by Lance Whitney, Contributor Dec. 30, 2024 at 11:04 a.m. PT Someone reported a Windows Update failure, where a Windows Update "complained it could not find the manifest of a previous update". This is not how Windows Update is supposed to work. Remember that the word "Cumulative", a little-understood English word, no longer means "Cumulative". It means "whatever-we-want-it-to-mean". Your updates aren't stateless, after all. In fact, your machine has a *number* of state-machine related failure conditions (such as properly fixing BlackLotus, sometime after the Windows-Update-mediated method did it). The OS has some items, that need to be repaired if your machine suffers a related calamity. Say for example, your little brother does a factory reset on the UEFI security materials. Does Windows "measure" the fucking mess and fix it? No. Of course not. There could be portions of that which remain broken. ******* The way to cover off some Windows issues of this sort, is the Repair Install which is a procedure that ordinary users can handle without hair loss. But it does not "guarantee" much of anything, it's merely a "best effort" from the user community, to help you. For example, the Windows installer media *still* does not handle the SafeOS feature properly. The partition still isn't the right size, defensively designed for the next shit-show. For a company that is to "Do Security", um, what are you doing ??? Exactly ? Yes, out here, we can whack at it, like it was a mole. Whack-a-mole. I would say all the good staff are working on <cough> Windows 12. Which will come with AI ash trays. Paul
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| From | "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-02 13:50 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <ltngcqFous6U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #15848 |
On Tue, 31 Dec 2024 19:08:22 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11,comp.os.linux.advocacy OS WAR! <G> -- s|b
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| From | Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> |
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| Date | 2025-01-02 09:47 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing |
| Message-ID | <8GxdP.49137$HxS1.12495@fx39.iad> |
| In reply to | #15965 |
On 2025-01-02 07:50, s|b wrote: > On Tue, 31 Dec 2024 19:08:22 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > >> Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11,comp.os.linux.advocacy > > OS WAR! <G> Nah, I don't think there's a war. A lot of the people using Linux now are people who know very well what Windows has to offer and calmly decided to leave. They don't care if anyone else uses it, they just don't see how it is going to be advantageous to their own lives or uses. -- Andrzej (Andre) Matuch Telegram: @AndrzejMatuch Zephyrus G14 GA401QM on Fedora 41 KDE supporting member
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-02 10:37 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <rhcdnj1ug8gi5g0vtb48fci7k8pu5rble7@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #15965 |
"s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote: >On Tue, 31 Dec 2024 19:08:22 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > >> Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11,comp.os.linux.advocacy > >OS WAR! <G> I frequently talk to Copilot in a Linux Web app about how sleek Linux is compared to Winblows, and it agrees with me. M$ is laughing at the people using their products on aging hardware. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-03 05:20 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing |
| Message-ID | <vl8dl0$3rtkg$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #15971 |
On Thu, 1/2/2025 10:37 AM, Joel wrote:
> "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
>> On Tue, 31 Dec 2024 19:08:22 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>>> Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11,comp.os.linux.advocacy
>>
>> OS WAR! <G>
>
>
> I frequently talk to Copilot in a Linux Web app about how sleek Linux
> is compared to Winblows, and it agrees with me. M$ is laughing at the
> people using their products on aging hardware.
>
Exciting I guess.
Session Log:
<Joel> Is it snowing where you are ?
<AI> Where am I ? I tried to look at my feet, but I don't have any.
<Joel> I'm 73 years old. How old are you, anyway ?
<AI> I'm either 39 or 93, let me check my coin flipper...
<Joel> So how about that Linux, good or what ?
<AI> Of course, Linux is a toilet paper, which does not scratch your bum [Ref.1]
[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/bnkct/forget_the_flakes_cola_and_wine_meet_the_linux/
<Joel> Yes, it's very sleek.
Paul
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-03 16:48 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing |
| Message-ID | <2lmgnjhhe7k3p73rcku6vkb41fgm8fkp2d@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #16025 |
Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote: >On Thu, 1/2/2025 10:37 AM, Joel wrote: >> "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote: >>> On Tue, 31 Dec 2024 19:08:22 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>> >>>> Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11,comp.os.linux.advocacy >>> >>> OS WAR! <G> >> >> I frequently talk to Copilot in a Linux Web app about how sleek Linux >> is compared to Winblows, and it agrees with me. M$ is laughing at the >> people using their products on aging hardware. > >Exciting I guess. > >Session Log: > ><Joel> Is it snowing where you are ? ><AI> Where am I ? I tried to look at my feet, but I don't have any. ><Joel> I'm 73 years old. How old are you, anyway ? ><AI> I'm either 39 or 93, let me check my coin flipper... ><Joel> So how about that Linux, good or what ? ><AI> Of course, Linux is a toilet paper, which does not scratch your bum [Ref.1] > [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/bnkct/forget_the_flakes_cola_and_wine_meet_the_linux/ ><Joel> Yes, it's very sleek. That is not remotely like what Copilot and I discuss. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-04 20:32 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing |
| Message-ID | <vlcnfu$n5nl$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #16053 |
On Fri, 1/3/2025 4:48 PM, Joel wrote: > Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote: >> On Thu, 1/2/2025 10:37 AM, Joel wrote: >>> "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote: >>>> On Tue, 31 Dec 2024 19:08:22 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>>> >>>>> Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11,comp.os.linux.advocacy >>>> >>>> OS WAR! <G> >>> >>> I frequently talk to Copilot in a Linux Web app about how sleek Linux >>> is compared to Winblows, and it agrees with me. M$ is laughing at the >>> people using their products on aging hardware. >> >> Exciting I guess. >> >> Session Log: >> >> <Joel> Is it snowing where you are ? >> <AI> Where am I ? I tried to look at my feet, but I don't have any. >> <Joel> I'm 73 years old. How old are you, anyway ? >> <AI> I'm either 39 or 93, let me check my coin flipper... >> <Joel> So how about that Linux, good or what ? >> <AI> Of course, Linux is a toilet paper, which does not scratch your bum [Ref.1] >> [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/bnkct/forget_the_flakes_cola_and_wine_meet_the_linux/ >> <Joel> Yes, it's very sleek. > > > That is not remotely like what Copilot and I discuss. > AI do not have human characteristics at the moment. They don't have ID, ego, or super-ego. If you tell them "up is down", they will agree with you. They have settings similar to NN, such as "temperature" or some annealing property. Beneath all the flowery text, there are plumbers adjusting the heat and water flow rate. I managed to "hang" an AI, and it blew past the safety timer and kept running. Someone at the other end, eventually killed it (removed the query). And it did not die in the "thinking" phase. There seems to be some kind of separate "I/O phase", that generates the text for a text session. And mine got really really slow while attempting to output some characters. About one letter every ten seconds. It's really a mechanical thing, and it's held together with bailing wire and binder twine. Imagine if it was self driving your car, and the I/O section went into a loop and stopped steering the car. That is the message here. Humans can fail that way too for various reasons, they just don't do it as often, and with the same relish for it. Paul
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| From | pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-05 01:39 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing |
| Message-ID | <vlcns7$n6vj$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #16095 |
On 2025-01-05, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote: > On Fri, 1/3/2025 4:48 PM, Joel wrote: >> Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote: >>> On Thu, 1/2/2025 10:37 AM, Joel wrote: >>>> "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote: >>>>> On Tue, 31 Dec 2024 19:08:22 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11,comp.os.linux.advocacy >>>>> >>>>> OS WAR! <G> >>>> >>>> I frequently talk to Copilot in a Linux Web app about how sleek Linux >>>> is compared to Winblows, and it agrees with me. M$ is laughing at the >>>> people using their products on aging hardware. >>> >>> Exciting I guess. >>> >>> Session Log: >>> >>> <Joel> Is it snowing where you are ? >>> <AI> Where am I ? I tried to look at my feet, but I don't have any. >>> <Joel> I'm 73 years old. How old are you, anyway ? >>> <AI> I'm either 39 or 93, let me check my coin flipper... >>> <Joel> So how about that Linux, good or what ? >>> <AI> Of course, Linux is a toilet paper, which does not scratch your bum [Ref.1] >>> [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/bnkct/forget_the_flakes_cola_and_wine_meet_the_linux/ >>> <Joel> Yes, it's very sleek. >> >> >> That is not remotely like what Copilot and I discuss. >> > > AI do not have human characteristics at the moment. > They don't have ID, ego, or super-ego. > If you tell them "up is down", they will agree with you. > > They have settings similar to NN, such as "temperature" > or some annealing property. Beneath all the flowery text, > there are plumbers adjusting the heat and water flow rate. > > I managed to "hang" an AI, and it blew past the safety > timer and kept running. Someone at the other end, eventually > killed it (removed the query). And it did not die in the "thinking" phase. > There seems to be some kind of separate "I/O phase", > that generates the text for a text session. And mine > got really really slow while attempting to output some > characters. About one letter every ten seconds. > > It's really a mechanical thing, and it's held together > with bailing wire and binder twine. Imagine if it > was self driving your car, and the I/O section went > into a loop and stopped steering the car. That is the > message here. Humans can fail that way too for various > reasons, they just don't do it as often, and with the > same relish for it. > > Paul +1 Excellent poast. -- pothead "Give a man a fish and you turn him into a Democrat for life" "Teach a man to fish and he might become a self-sufficient conservative Republican" "Don't underestimate Joe's ability to fuck things up," --- Barack H. Obama
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| From | Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-05 00:43 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing |
| Message-ID | <ltu2srFqqt5U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #15848 |
On 31/12/2024 19:08, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > Yet another > <https://www.zdnet.com/article/new-windows-11-24h2-bug-could-block-future-security-updates-see-whos-affected/> > in the ongoing stream of bugs from Microsoft resulting from the > Windows update process itself. This one breaks the ability to receive > further security updates. So once you get it, how do you get an update > to fix it? Particularly when there have already been updates that kept > introducing their own new bugs? If you read it properly instead of skimming and then rushing to gleefully spread the news, you'd see that it only applies to those who installed 24H2 from media (DVD or USB) that has had Windows updates slipstreamed into it. Almost nobody does that. -- Brian Gregory (in England).
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-05 02:45 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing |
| Message-ID | <vlcrob$nnbu$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #16089 |
On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 00:43:07 +0000, Brian Gregory wrote: > On 31/12/2024 19:08, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > >> Yet another >> <https://www.zdnet.com/article/new-windows-11-24h2-bug-could-block-future-security-updates-see-whos-affected/> >> in the ongoing stream of bugs from Microsoft resulting from the Windows >> update process itself. This one breaks the ability to receive further >> security updates. So once you get it, how do you get an update to fix >> it? Particularly when there have already been updates that kept >> introducing their own new bugs? > > ... you'd see that it only applies to those who > installed 24H2 from media (DVD or USB) that has had Windows updates > slipstreamed into it. Which doesn’t make it any easier to figure out how to fix it, is it?
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| From | Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-08 00:00 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing |
| Message-ID | <lu5tggF5lutU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #16105 |
On 05/01/2025 02:45, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 00:43:07 +0000, Brian Gregory wrote: > >> On 31/12/2024 19:08, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> >>> Yet another >>> <https://www.zdnet.com/article/new-windows-11-24h2-bug-could-block-future-security-updates-see-whos-affected/> >>> in the ongoing stream of bugs from Microsoft resulting from the Windows >>> update process itself. This one breaks the ability to receive further >>> security updates. So once you get it, how do you get an update to fix >>> it? Particularly when there have already been updates that kept >>> introducing their own new bugs? >> >> ... you'd see that it only applies to those who >> installed 24H2 from media (DVD or USB) that has had Windows updates >> slipstreamed into it. > > Which doesn’t make it any easier to figure out how to fix it, is it? If you can figure out the instructions for slipstreaming you're definitely a genius who will fix this easily. -- Brian Gregory (in England).
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-05 14:14 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing |
| Message-ID | <vle7ko.ib4.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #16089 |
Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote: > On 31/12/2024 19:08, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > > Yet another > > <https://www.zdnet.com/article/new-windows-11-24h2-bug-could-block-future-security-updates-see-whos-affected/> > > in the ongoing stream of bugs from Microsoft resulting from the > > Windows update process itself. This one breaks the ability to receive > > further security updates. So once you get it, how do you get an update > > to fix it? Particularly when there have already been updates that kept > > introducing their own new bugs? > > If you read it properly instead of skimming and then rushing to > gleefully spread the news, you'd see that it only applies to those who > installed 24H2 from media (DVD or USB) that has had Windows updates > slipstreamed into it. Actually it's "that has had *the wrong* Windows updates slipstreamed into it." I.e. the imaginary user did the *wrong* thing and that might have led to a problem. That's what you get for doing things the wrong way, isn't it!? :-) > Almost nobody does that. <firmly sitting on hands>
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-06 00:15 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing |
| Message-ID | <vlf7bu$197h8$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #16125 |
On 5 Jan 2025 14:14:38 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote: > Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote: > >> If you read it properly instead of skimming and then rushing to >> gleefully spread the news, you'd see that it only applies to those who >> installed 24H2 from media (DVD or USB) that has had Windows updates >> slipstreamed into it. > > Actually it's "that has had *the wrong* Windows updates slipstreamed > into it." How should that be possible? Don’t Microsoft’s own updaters check for applicability before allowing themselves to be installed?
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-05 22:29 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing |
| Message-ID | <vlfim6$1eqal$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #16141 |
On Sun, 1/5/2025 7:15 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On 5 Jan 2025 14:14:38 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote: > >> Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote: >> >>> If you read it properly instead of skimming and then rushing to >>> gleefully spread the news, you'd see that it only applies to those who >>> installed 24H2 from media (DVD or USB) that has had Windows updates >>> slipstreamed into it. >> >> Actually it's "that has had *the wrong* Windows updates slipstreamed >> into it." > > How should that be possible? Don’t Microsoft’s own updaters check for > applicability before allowing themselves to be installed? > Yes. But even in Linux, if you go around randomly deleting or installing stuff, if you go outside the scope or bounds of the automated update system, yon can break stuff. For example, if I do this, this is kind of outside the scope and bounds of any package manager. If you're following the rules properly, you're not doing any construct at all like this. sudo rm -Rf / Paul
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-06 06:29 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing |
| Message-ID | <vlft8o$1gc0p$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #16145 |
On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 22:29:09 -0500, Paul wrote: > On Sun, 1/5/2025 7:15 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > >> On 5 Jan 2025 14:14:38 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote: >> >>> Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>> If you read it properly instead of skimming and then rushing to >>>> gleefully spread the news, you'd see that it only applies to those >>>> who installed 24H2 from media (DVD or USB) that has had Windows >>>> updates slipstreamed into it. >>> >>> Actually it's "that has had *the wrong* Windows updates slipstreamed >>> into it." >> >> How should that be possible? Don’t Microsoft’s own updaters check for >> applicability before allowing themselves to be installed? >> >> > Yes. Obviously not. > But even in Linux, if you go around randomly deleting or installing > stuff, if you go outside the scope or bounds of the automated update > system, yon can break stuff. But you can’t install packages that would conflict with ones already present, unless you force things. Package managers are inherently resistant to such screwups, by design. > sudo rm -Rf / “Doctor, it hurts when I do this!” “Don’t do that, then.”
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| From | Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-08 00:09 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing |
| Message-ID | <lu5u16F5lutU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #16146 |
On 06/01/2025 06:29, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 22:29:09 -0500, Paul wrote: > >> On Sun, 1/5/2025 7:15 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> >>> On 5 Jan 2025 14:14:38 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote: >>> >>>> Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote: >>>> >>>>> If you read it properly instead of skimming and then rushing to >>>>> gleefully spread the news, you'd see that it only applies to those >>>>> who installed 24H2 from media (DVD or USB) that has had Windows >>>>> updates slipstreamed into it. >>>> >>>> Actually it's "that has had *the wrong* Windows updates slipstreamed >>>> into it." >>> >>> How should that be possible? Don’t Microsoft’s own updaters check for >>> applicability before allowing themselves to be installed? >>> >>> >> Yes. > > Obviously not. > >> But even in Linux, if you go around randomly deleting or installing >> stuff, if you go outside the scope or bounds of the automated update >> system, yon can break stuff. > > But you can’t install packages that would conflict with ones already > present, unless you force things. Package managers are inherently > resistant to such screwups, by design. There is no package manager and the updates were already slipstreamed into the WIM image on your installation media. -- Brian Gregory (in England).
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-08 02:24 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing |
| Message-ID | <vlknlr$2fte8$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #16164 |
On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 00:09:10 +0000, Brian Gregory wrote: > There is no package manager and the updates were already slipstreamed > into the WIM image on your installation media. I’m sure that’s very convenient if you are able to keep getting entirely new installation media every time.
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-07 22:44 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing |
| Message-ID | <d3trnjh9k4c7h054nkvr6qqlprcua2eoq4@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #16165 |
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: >On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 00:09:10 +0000, Brian Gregory wrote: > >> There is no package manager and the updates were already slipstreamed >> into the WIM image on your installation media. > >I’m sure that’s very convenient if you are able to keep getting entirely >new installation media every time. Just use a USB media, it's reusable. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-09 09:02 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing |
| Message-ID | <vlortr$3eb5d$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #16164 |
Brian Gregory wrote on 1/7/25 5:09 PM: > On 06/01/2025 06:29, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 22:29:09 -0500, Paul wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 1/5/2025 7:15 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>> >>>> On 5 Jan 2025 14:14:38 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote: >>>> >>>>> Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> If you read it properly instead of skimming and then rushing to >>>>>> gleefully spread the news, you'd see that it only applies to those >>>>>> who installed 24H2 from media (DVD or USB) that has had Windows >>>>>> updates slipstreamed into it. >>>>> >>>>> Actually it's "that has had *the wrong* Windows updates slipstreamed >>>>> into it." >>>> >>>> How should that be possible? Don’t Microsoft’s own updaters check for >>>> applicability before allowing themselves to be installed? >>>> >>>> >>> Yes. >> >> Obviously not. >> >>> But even in Linux, if you go around randomly deleting or installing >>> stuff, if you go outside the scope or bounds of the automated update >>> system, yon can break stuff. >> >> But you can’t install packages that would conflict with ones already >> present, unless you force things. Package managers are inherently >> resistant to such screwups, by design. > > There is no package manager and the updates were already slipstreamed > into the WIM image on your installation media. > Fyi...another piece to the same pie. MCT USB/CD/DVD created media with the Oct/Nov bits with install.esd had the issue, while downloaded Visual Studio(fka MSDN, Technet) ISO's and MCT created ISO's which have/had install.wim used to create USB/CD/DVD did not have the issue. Note: Linux group removed from this reply. -- ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-06 14:48 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing |
| Message-ID | <vlgu0d.1370.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #16141 |
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: > On 5 Jan 2025 14:14:38 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote: > > > Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote: > > > >> If you read it properly instead of skimming and then rushing to > >> gleefully spread the news, you'd see that it only applies to those who > >> installed 24H2 from media (DVD or USB) that has had Windows updates > >> slipstreamed into it. > > > > Actually it's "that has had *the wrong* Windows updates slipstreamed > > into it." > > How should that be possible? Don?t Microsoft?s own updaters check for > applicability before allowing themselves to be installed? A bit badly worded, but the answer is yes. But in this fictive scenario, Microsoft's own updaters are not used and actually circumvented, as I wrote in the part you snipped: > > I.e. the imaginary user did the *wrong* thing and that might have led > > to a problem. > > > > That's what you get for doing things the wrong way, isn't it!? :-) You yourself wrote (in a response to Paul): > sudo rm -Rf / > > Doctor, it hurts when I do this! > Don't do that, then. So when a Linux user does something out of line, you says the consequences are their fault, but when a Windows user does something similar, you blame Microsoft/Windows. Hypocritical much!? Bottom line: Best not flame/blame stuff you don't understand. But in case you still can resist: At least *try* not to be dishonest and don't snip context/comments when they don't fit your anti Microsoft/ Windows agenda.
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