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  uninvited guest on taskbar jason_warren <jason_warren@ieee.org> - 2025-01-03 12:18 -0500
    Re: uninvited guest on taskbar Boris <Boris@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-03 17:29 +0000
      Re: uninvited guest on taskbar Boris <Boris@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-03 17:30 +0000
        Re: uninvited guest on taskbar VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-03 11:51 -0600
          Re: uninvited guest on taskbar Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-01-26 00:13 +1100
            Re: uninvited guest on taskbar VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-25 09:02 -0600
              Re: uninvited guest on taskbar Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-25 16:26 +0000
              Re: uninvited guest on taskbar Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-01-26 19:34 +1100
            Re: uninvited guest on taskbar Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-25 16:16 +0000
              Re: uninvited guest on taskbar Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-01-26 19:38 +1100
          Re: uninvited guest on taskbar Jason <jason_warren@INVALID.ieee.org> - 2025-02-07 15:49 -0500
    Re: uninvited guest on taskbar Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-04 08:26 -0500
      Re: uninvited guest on taskbar ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-01-04 14:19 -0700
        Re: uninvited guest on taskbar Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-04 23:16 -0500

#16041 — uninvited guest on taskbar

It seems that MS has gifted me an item that shows in
the taskbar that I wish to dispose of. It opens a window
that purports to show me news, weather etc etc. It must
have arrived with an update. I cannot find it in startup
items. How do I get rid of it?

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#16042

jason_warren <jason_warren@ieee.org> wrote in 
news:MPG.41e1e5fcd48c40b39896b7@reader80.eternal-september.org:

> It seems that MS has gifted me an item that shows in
> the taskbar that I wish to dispose of. It opens a window
> that purports to show me news, weather etc etc. It must
> have arrived with an update. I cannot find it in startup
> items. How do I get rid of it?
> 
> 

I'm writing from a Windows 11 laptop, but I think it's the same for Windows 
11:

Settings>Personalization>Taskbar
scroll all the way down and disable "Show news and interests on the 
taskbar".

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#16043

Boris <Boris@invalid.invalid> wrote in
news:XnsB25C6086FCCB3Borisinvalidinvalid@135.181.20.170: 

> jason_warren <jason_warren@ieee.org> wrote in 
> news:MPG.41e1e5fcd48c40b39896b7@reader80.eternal-september.org:
> 
>> It seems that MS has gifted me an item that shows in
>> the taskbar that I wish to dispose of. It opens a window
>> that purports to show me news, weather etc etc. It must
>> have arrived with an update. I cannot find it in startup
>> items. How do I get rid of it?
>> 
>> 
> 
> I'm writing from a Windows 11 laptop, but I think it's the same for
> Windows 11:
> 
> Settings>Personalization>Taskbar
> scroll all the way down and disable "Show news and interests on the 
> taskbar".
> 


Oops...writing from a Windows 10 laptop

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#16044

Boris <Boris@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> Boris <Boris@invalid.invalid> wrote in
> news:XnsB25C6086FCCB3Borisinvalidinvalid@135.181.20.170: 
> 
>> jason_warren <jason_warren@ieee.org> wrote in 
>> news:MPG.41e1e5fcd48c40b39896b7@reader80.eternal-september.org:
>> 
>>> It seems that MS has gifted me an item that shows in
>>> the taskbar that I wish to dispose of. It opens a window
>>> that purports to show me news, weather etc etc. It must
>>> have arrived with an update. I cannot find it in startup
>>> items. How do I get rid of it?
>>> 
>> 
>> I'm writing from a Windows 11 laptop, but I think it's the same for
>> Windows 11:
>> 
>> Settings>Personalization>Taskbar
>> scroll all the way down and disable "Show news and interests on the 
>> taskbar".
>> 
> 
> Oops...writing from a Windows 10 laptop

While this is for Windows 10, what I read online says it works for
Windows 11, too.

Right-click on unused space in the Windows Taskbar.
Select "News and Interests".
Turn off.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/stay-up-to-date-with-news-and-interests-a39baa08-7488-4169-9ed8-577238f46f8f

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#16515

On 4/01/2025 4:51 am, VanguardLH wrote:
> Boris <Boris@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> Boris <Boris@invalid.invalid> wrote in
>> news:XnsB25C6086FCCB3Borisinvalidinvalid@135.181.20.170:
>>
>>> jason_warren <jason_warren@ieee.org> wrote in
>>> news:MPG.41e1e5fcd48c40b39896b7@reader80.eternal-september.org:
>>>
>>>> It seems that MS has gifted me an item that shows in
>>>> the taskbar that I wish to dispose of. It opens a window
>>>> that purports to show me news, weather etc etc. It must
>>>> have arrived with an update. I cannot find it in startup
>>>> items. How do I get rid of it?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm writing from a Windows 11 laptop, but I think it's the same for
>>> Windows 11:
>>>
>>> Settings>Personalization>Taskbar
>>> scroll all the way down and disable "Show news and interests on the
>>> taskbar".
>>>
>>
>> Oops...writing from a Windows 10 laptop
> 
> While this is for Windows 10, what I read online says it works for
> Windows 11, too.
> 
> Right-click on unused space in the Windows Taskbar.
> Select "News and Interests".
> Turn off.
> 
> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/stay-up-to-date-with-news-and-interests-a39baa08-7488-4169-9ed8-577238f46f8f
> 
Vanguard, I think I'm on Win11 (new Desktop computer, still adjusting) 
and when I Right-Click on unused space on the Taskber, I'm offered "Task 
Manager" and "Taskbar settings", neither of which seem to allow me to 
get rid of the Weather Icon.

(The way I figure it, this do-dad keeps using my Data offering me 
weather/road information, none of which I'm interested in .... and, as 
I'm just about to exceed my monthly Data usage limit, any savings would 
be good!! ;-P )
-- 
Daniel70

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#16520

Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:

> VanguardLH wrote:
>
>> Boris <Boris@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>> Boris <Boris@invalid.invalid> wrote in
>>> news:XnsB25C6086FCCB3Borisinvalidinvalid@135.181.20.170:
>>>
>>>> jason_warren <jason_warren@ieee.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It seems that MS has gifted me an item that shows in
>>>>> the taskbar that I wish to dispose of. It opens a window
>>>>> that purports to show me news, weather etc etc. It must
>>>>> have arrived with an update. I cannot find it in startup
>>>>> items. How do I get rid of it?
>>>>
>>>> I'm writing from a Windows 11 laptop, but I think it's the same for
>>>> Windows 11:
>>>>
>>>> Settings>Personalization>Taskbar
>>>> scroll all the way down and disable "Show news and interests on the
>>>> taskbar".
>>>
>>> Oops...writing from a Windows 10 laptop
>> 
>> While this is for Windows 10, what I read online says it works for
>> Windows 11, too.
>> 
>> Right-click on unused space in the Windows Taskbar.
>> Select "News and Interests".
>> Turn off.
>> 
>> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/stay-up-to-date-with-news-and-interests-a39baa08-7488-4169-9ed8-577238f46f8f
> 
> Vanguard, I think I'm on Win11 (new Desktop computer, still adjusting)
> and when I Right-Click on unused space on the Taskber, I'm offered
> "Task Manager" and "Taskbar settings", neither of which seem to allow
> me to get rid of the Weather Icon.

The MS article does not have context links to select the OS version to
determine how the process differs on Windows 10 versus 11 to disable the
News & Interests crap.  

I did a simple search on "windows 11 news interests on off" at Youtube
to see if someone provided a video on how to disable that, ahem,
"feature" under Windows 11, and found:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDrMe0n1rn8

Presumably that means News & Interests became a widget.  However, since
the disabled setting is for all widgets in the Taskbar, seems you'll
lose any other widgets Microsoft may added, you installed from the MS
Store, or some software you installed that uses Taskbar widgets.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/learning-center/what-are-widgets

Widgets aka gadgets got removed in Windows 7, because they were security
risks (could allow remote code execution).  Apparently Microsoft thinks
they're safe in Windows 11.  However, Microsoft also recently removed
some widgets in Windows 11; see:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJHR2zKU4zY

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#16522

VanguardLH wrote:

> I did a simple search on "windows 11 news interests on off" at Youtube
> to see if someone provided a video on how to disable that, ahem,
> "feature" under Windows 11, and found:
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDrMe0n1rn8

A pretty sloppily setup demo, he didn't even have them turned on in 
order to demonstrate turning them off!

> Presumably that means News & Interests became a widget.

In Win10 it used to appear differently,  like this

<https://i0.wp.com/joymalya.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/DisableFeeds02.png?w=841&ssl=1>

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#16528

On 26/01/2025 2:02 am, VanguardLH wrote:
> Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
> 
>> VanguardLH wrote:
>>
>>> Boris <Boris@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Boris <Boris@invalid.invalid> wrote in
>>>> news:XnsB25C6086FCCB3Borisinvalidinvalid@135.181.20.170:
>>>>
>>>>> jason_warren <jason_warren@ieee.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> It seems that MS has gifted me an item that shows in
>>>>>> the taskbar that I wish to dispose of. It opens a window
>>>>>> that purports to show me news, weather etc etc. It must
>>>>>> have arrived with an update. I cannot find it in startup
>>>>>> items. How do I get rid of it?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm writing from a Windows 11 laptop, but I think it's the same for
>>>>> Windows 11:
>>>>>
>>>>> Settings>Personalization>Taskbar
>>>>> scroll all the way down and disable "Show news and interests on the
>>>>> taskbar".
>>>>
>>>> Oops...writing from a Windows 10 laptop
>>>
>>> While this is for Windows 10, what I read online says it works for
>>> Windows 11, too.
>>>
>>> Right-click on unused space in the Windows Taskbar.
>>> Select "News and Interests".
>>> Turn off.
>>>
>>> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/stay-up-to-date-with-news-and-interests-a39baa08-7488-4169-9ed8-577238f46f8f
>>
>> Vanguard, I think I'm on Win11 (new Desktop computer, still adjusting)
>> and when I Right-Click on unused space on the Taskber, I'm offered
>> "Task Manager" and "Taskbar settings", neither of which seem to allow
>> me to get rid of the Weather Icon.
> 
> The MS article does not have context links to select the OS version to
> determine how the process differs on Windows 10 versus 11 to disable the
> News & Interests crap.
> 
> I did a simple search on "windows 11 news interests on off" at Youtube
> to see if someone provided a video on how to disable that, ahem,
> "feature" under Windows 11, and found:
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDrMe0n1rn8
> 
> Presumably that means News & Interests became a widget.  However, since
> the disabled setting is for all widgets in the Taskbar, seems you'll
> lose any other widgets Microsoft may added, you installed from the MS
> Store, or some software you installed that uses Taskbar widgets.
> 
> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/learning-center/what-are-widgets
> 
> Widgets aka gadgets got removed in Windows 7, because they were security
> risks (could allow remote code execution).  Apparently Microsoft thinks
> they're safe in Windows 11.  However, Microsoft also recently removed
> some widgets in Windows 11; see:
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJHR2zKU4zY
> 
Bugger!! Thanks for trying, Vanguard.
-- 
Daniel70

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#16521

Daniel70 wrote:

> I think I'm on Win11 (new Desktop computer, still adjusting) and when I 
> Right-Click on unused space on the Taskber, I'm offered "Task Manager" 
> and "Taskbar settings", neither of which seem to allow me to get rid of 
> the Weather Icon.

click "taskbar settings", then you should see a slider for "widgets", 
turn it off

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#16529

On 26/01/2025 3:16 am, Andy Burns wrote:
> Daniel70 wrote:
> 
>> I think I'm on Win11 (new Desktop computer, still adjusting) and when 
>> I Right-Click on unused space on the Taskber, I'm offered "Task 
>> Manager" and "Taskbar settings", neither of which seem to allow me to 
>> get rid of the Weather Icon.
> 
> click "taskbar settings", then you should see a slider for "widgets", 
> turn it off

Done! I was expecting it to not apply until I re-booted tomorrow but 
..... GONE!!

That should save me a few kB of downloading! I'm just about at my 
monthly limit already, and got about three weeks to go till next month!
-- 
Daniel70

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#16873

> While this is for Windows 10, what I read online says it works for
> Windows 11, too.
> 
> Right-click on unused space in the Windows Taskbar.
> Select "News and Interests".
> Turn off.
> 
> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/stay-up-to-date-with-news-and-interests-a39baa08-7488-4169-9ed8-577238f46f8fT

Thanks! That worked :-)

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#16072

On Fri, 1/3/2025 12:18 PM, jason_warren wrote:
> It seems that MS has gifted me an item that shows in
> the taskbar that I wish to dispose of. It opens a window
> that purports to show me news, weather etc etc. It must
> have arrived with an update. I cannot find it in startup
> items. How do I get rid of it?
> 

Design has changed again :-/

As Van says, at one time, you right clicked on a clear area on the right,
on the Task Bar, and a menu full of "pest control" entries used to appear.

News and Interests was one of them, and your only form of control was
to "Hide" the graphical output. But the code was still running
inside the machine. Someone over in Win10, located the activity
as belonging to the SearchApp. One of the pest features, is
News and Interests needs to run a private Location Service, in
order for it to get the Weather Widget to report the temperature
for your city. While third party applications, there is a privacy
control to turn off the system location service (so browsers cannot
geolocate to the nears lumber yard), there is no Privacy Control
for SearchApp. The SearchApp seems to run the search box on the
taskbar, and like a few things on the machine, everything you search
for (via browser URLs or entries or via search box typing), that
is all sent to head office for sale to advertisers. Maybe your Interests
are also the Interests of Advertisers.

*******

The only control in 23H2 (on the right of me) and 24H2 (on the left of me),
is the Widget control

     Personalization : Taskbar
         Search       Hide
         Task View    Off
         Widgets      Off   <=== News and Interests is the left mode widget, this Hides it, does not Stop it

    [Picture]

     https://i.postimg.cc/pVfCrNm7/W11-News-Interests-Widgets.gif

I flipped on the control, on a fresh install, and the weather city
was wrong. The Location method then, we have to wait a
bit for it to refine the location it has for you. It seemed to work,
back when it first came out.

   Paul

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#16081

Paul wrote on 1/4/25 6:26 AM:
> On Fri, 1/3/2025 12:18 PM, jason_warren wrote:
>> It seems that MS has gifted me an item that shows in
>> the taskbar that I wish to dispose of. It opens a window
>> that purports to show me news, weather etc etc. It must
>> have arrived with an update. I cannot find it in startup
>> items. How do I get rid of it?
>>
> 
> Design has changed again :-/
> 
> As Van says, at one time, you right clicked on a clear area on the right,
> on the Task Bar, and a menu full of "pest control" entries used to appear.
> 
> News and Interests was one of them, and your only form of control was
> to "Hide" the graphical output. But the code was still running
> inside the machine. Someone over in Win10, located the activity
> as belonging to the SearchApp. One of the pest features, is
> News and Interests needs to run a private Location Service, in
> order for it to get the Weather Widget to report the temperature
> for your city. While third party applications, there is a privacy
> control to turn off the system location service (so browsers cannot
> geolocate to the nears lumber yard), there is no Privacy Control
> for SearchApp. The SearchApp seems to run the search box on the
> taskbar, and like a few things on the machine, everything you search
> for (via browser URLs or entries or via search box typing), that
> is all sent to head office for sale to advertisers. Maybe your Interests
> are also the Interests of Advertisers.
> 
> *******
> 
> The only control in 23H2 (on the right of me) and 24H2 (on the left of me),
> is the Widget control
> 
>       Personalization : Taskbar
>           Search       Hide
>           Task View    Off
>           Widgets      Off   <=== News and Interests is the left mode widget, this Hides it, does not Stop it
> 
>      [Picture]
> 
>       https://i.postimg.cc/pVfCrNm7/W11-News-Interests-Widgets.gif
> 
> I flipped on the control, on a fresh install, and the weather city
> was wrong. The Location method then, we have to wait a
> bit for it to refine the location it has for you. It seemed to work,
> back when it first came out.
> 
>     Paul
> 

Windows 11 23H2/24H2

Are any of these settings present in the following key?

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Feeds

EnShellFeedsTaskbarViewMode DWORD

2193738738 (decimal) = Show icon and text (default)
2062503013 (decimal) = Show icon only
3496311023 (decimal) = Turn off

There have been reports of News and Interests not being present and also 
being present on Win11 23H2/24H2 without any user intervention(Turn off, 
Group Policy, reg hack).

On my two Win11 devices - one has the News and Interests taskbar 
item(23H2) while 24H2 does not.  On 24H2 even 'Widgets' toggled on or 
off, still not present and nothing to date(since clean install Dec 10th 
using ISO(install.wim) done to remove, hide, turn off(Windows, GPO or Reg 
hack. Also, the above referenced reg key(EnShellFeedsTaskbarViewMode) 
does not exist.

-- 
...w¡ñ§±¤ñ

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#16118

On Sat, 1/4/2025 4:19 PM, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  wrote:
> Paul wrote on 1/4/25 6:26 AM:
>> On Fri, 1/3/2025 12:18 PM, jason_warren wrote:
>>> It seems that MS has gifted me an item that shows in
>>> the taskbar that I wish to dispose of. It opens a window
>>> that purports to show me news, weather etc etc. It must
>>> have arrived with an update. I cannot find it in startup
>>> items. How do I get rid of it?
>>>
>>
>> Design has changed again :-/
>>
>> As Van says, at one time, you right clicked on a clear area on the right,
>> on the Task Bar, and a menu full of "pest control" entries used to appear.
>>
>> News and Interests was one of them, and your only form of control was
>> to "Hide" the graphical output. But the code was still running
>> inside the machine. Someone over in Win10, located the activity
>> as belonging to the SearchApp. One of the pest features, is
>> News and Interests needs to run a private Location Service, in
>> order for it to get the Weather Widget to report the temperature
>> for your city. While third party applications, there is a privacy
>> control to turn off the system location service (so browsers cannot
>> geolocate to the nears lumber yard), there is no Privacy Control
>> for SearchApp. The SearchApp seems to run the search box on the
>> taskbar, and like a few things on the machine, everything you search
>> for (via browser URLs or entries or via search box typing), that
>> is all sent to head office for sale to advertisers. Maybe your Interests
>> are also the Interests of Advertisers.
>>
>> *******
>>
>> The only control in 23H2 (on the right of me) and 24H2 (on the left of me),
>> is the Widget control
>>
>>       Personalization : Taskbar
>>           Search       Hide
>>           Task View    Off
>>           Widgets      Off   <=== News and Interests is the left mode widget, this Hides it, does not Stop it
>>
>>      [Picture]
>>
>>       https://i.postimg.cc/pVfCrNm7/W11-News-Interests-Widgets.gif
>>
>> I flipped on the control, on a fresh install, and the weather city
>> was wrong. The Location method then, we have to wait a
>> bit for it to refine the location it has for you. It seemed to work,
>> back when it first came out.
>>
>>     Paul
>>
> 
> Windows 11 23H2/24H2
> 
> Are any of these settings present in the following key?
> 
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Feeds
> 
> EnShellFeedsTaskbarViewMode DWORD
> 
> 2193738738 (decimal) = Show icon and text (default)
> 2062503013 (decimal) = Show icon only
> 3496311023 (decimal) = Turn off
> 
> There have been reports of News and Interests not being present and also being present on Win11 23H2/24H2 without any user intervention(Turn off, Group Policy, reg hack).
> 
> On my two Win11 devices - one has the News and Interests taskbar item(23H2) while 24H2 does not.  On 24H2 even 'Widgets' toggled on or off, still not present and nothing to date(since clean install Dec 10th using ISO(install.wim) done to remove, hide, turn off(Windows, GPO or Reg hack. Also, the above referenced reg key(EnShellFeedsTaskbarViewMode) does not exist.
> 

Those aren't present here.

I usually find, if I turn it on, something appears.

But as for the contents of App folders, I can't be looking in the
right places. Maybe some MSEdge or Webview2 cache, has the mechanical
bits of what is presented. But the control of it, I couldn't really
find evidence of it.

And with the way search is going o9 the web, it's almost impossible
to gain any sort of traction any more, on technical queries. Even some
of the references to Reddit, you open the page and only the original
query is present, and nobody has answered the query.

What a time to be alive.

   Paul

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