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| Started by | "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2026-05-30 19:31 +0800 |
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(old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-05-30 19:31 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-30 13:11 +0100
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-05-30 21:27 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-30 16:29 +0100
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-15 18:52 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-06-15 08:58 -0400
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-15 22:35 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-06-15 14:07 -0400
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 12:40 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-06-16 07:44 -0400
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 19:48 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-16 15:19 +0200
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 21:55 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-16 20:28 +0200
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-18 12:59 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-18 08:40 +0200
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-18 17:49 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-18 14:20 +0200
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-18 14:21 +0200
Re: (old_version.exe .... devices at 7C/44F or lower "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-18 21:56 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-19 19:32 +1000
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> - 2026-06-18 21:26 +0100
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-19 00:26 +0200
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 12:12 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-06-19 02:38 -0400
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-19 19:39 +1000
Re: Moving from Windows to Linux "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 18:40 +0800
Re: Moving from Windows to Linux Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-20 21:31 +1000
Re: Moving from Windows to Linux "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-20 20:45 +0800
Re: Moving from Windows to Linux Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-21 22:19 +1000
Re: Moving from Windows to Linux "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-21 20:26 +0800
Re: Moving from Windows to Linux Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-21 23:04 +1000
Re: Moving from Windows to Linux "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-21 22:41 +0800
Re: Moving from Windows to Linux "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-06-21 20:11 +0100
Re: Moving from Windows to Linux Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-22 17:34 +1000
Re: Moving from Windows to Linux ... bank, passbook, paper, ink "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 19:01 +0800
Re: Moving from Windows to Linux ... bank, passbook, paper, ink Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-22 21:20 +1000
Re: Moving from Windows to Linux ... bank, passbook, paper, ink Bank Accounts <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-22 22:20 +0100
Re: Moving from Windows to Linux ... bank, passbook, paper, ink "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 00:55 -0400
Re: Moving from Windows to Linux ... bank, passbook, paper, ink "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-23 11:09 +0200
Re: Moving from Windows to Linux ... bank, passbook, paper, ink Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-23 10:19 +0100
Re: Moving from Windows to Linux ... bank, passbook, paper, ink "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-23 12:02 +0200
Re: Moving from Windows to Linux ... bank, passbook, paper, ink Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-23 11:16 +0100
Re: Moving from Windows to Linux ... bank, passbook, paper, ink "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-23 14:11 +0200
Re: Moving from Windows to Linux ... bank, passbook, paper, ink Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-24 00:09 +1000
Re: Moving from Windows to Linux ... bank, passbook, paper, ink "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-24 00:30 +0800
Re: Moving from Windows to Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-21 19:01 +0000
Re: Secured Boot & BIOS "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 18:39 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 13:54 -0400
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-06-19 21:47 +0100
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-19 16:51 -0500
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-06-19 22:14 -0400
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-06-20 05:44 -0400
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-06-20 05:50 -0400
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 10:26 -0400
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 23:03 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 20:05 -0400
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-17 11:08 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-17 11:19 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-06-17 02:31 -0400
Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-17 19:24 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-18 13:02 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-06-18 02:04 -0400
Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-18 17:50 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-06-18 06:48 -0700
Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-18 15:25 +0100
Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-06-18 08:00 -0700
Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-06-18 16:39 +0100
Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-06-18 07:58 -0700
Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 01:04 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-19 19:47 +1000
Re: (old_version.exe... IBM World Trade Asia Corp & Hong Kong 1997 "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 18:43 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe... IBM World Trade Asia Corp & Hong Kong 1997 Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-20 21:47 +1000
Re: (old_version.exe... IBM World Trade Asia Corp & Hong Kong 1997 "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-20 23:01 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-06-19 07:38 -0700
[OT] "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 23:39 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation Mister Johnson <root@example.net> - 2026-06-20 11:51 +0000
Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 01:02 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 18:50 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-19 15:17 +0100
Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, no handle "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 23:37 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, no handle Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-06-19 23:27 -0400
Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, no handle "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-20 11:45 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, no handle Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-06-20 09:24 -0400
Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, no handle "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-20 22:58 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, no handle "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-06-20 16:27 +0100
Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, home safety "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-21 00:07 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, home safety Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-21 08:57 +0100
Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, home safety "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-21 19:27 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, home safety "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-06-21 20:16 +0100
Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, home safety Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-06-21 19:28 -0400
Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, home safety "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 13:21 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, home safety Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-06-22 02:52 -0400
Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, home safety "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-22 10:44 +0200
Re: (old_version.exe... kite "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 19:03 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-16 20:30 +0200
Re: (old_version.exe ... mainframe computer room? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-18 13:04 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe ... mainframe computer room? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-18 08:43 +0200
Re: (old_version.exe ... mainframe computer room? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-18 17:51 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-06-15 20:24 -0400
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 12:35 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? JJ <jj4public@gmail.com> - 2026-05-31 08:59 +0700
Re: Original exe : delta updates = DNA : RNA vaccines ??? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-15 14:12 +0800
Re: Original exe : delta updates = DNA : RNA vaccines ??? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-15 14:44 +0800
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| From | "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-05-30 19:31 +0800 |
| Subject | (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? |
| Message-ID | <10vehqp$qaga$1@toylet.eternal-september.org> |
On 5/30/2026 4:59 PM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> One thing:
>
> Should I always believe that (old_version.exe + delta update) is exactly
> the same as (new_version.exe) ? ;)
Maybe it's safer and more secured to clean install using new version
tools? So as to clean up everything and remove all dirts? :)
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| From | "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-05-30 13:11 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <10vek4q$jh4e$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #32173 |
On 2026/5/30 12:31:36, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: > On 5/30/2026 4:59 PM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: >> One thing: >> >> Should I always believe that (old_version.exe + delta update) is exactly >> the same as (new_version.exe) ? ;) > > Maybe it's safer and more secured to clean install using new version > tools? So as to clean up everything and remove all dirts? :) > It is tempting to at least obtain the full new-version installer, so that one at least has it. But does using it retain settings (i. e. pick them up from the existing installation? (Or, by "clean install", do you mean scrub everything anyway?) I'd hate to have to redo everything (including newsgroups). -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Never raise your hand to your children. It leaves your mid-section unprotected
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| From | "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-05-30 21:27 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <10veokb$s69j$1@toylet.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #32174 |
On 5/30/2026 8:11 PM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>
> But does using it retain settings (i. e. pick them up from the existing
> installation? (Or, by "clean install", do you mean scrub everything
> anyway?) I'd hate to have to redo everything (including newsgroups).
Depends on the software. IN general, yes, you can just move settings and
data over after installing the new version in Windows & Linux.... maybe
a bit tricky for Android and iOS.
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/ v \ May the Force and farces be with you! Live long and prosper!!
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| From | "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-05-30 16:29 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <10vevo8$jh4f$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #32175 |
On 2026/5/30 14:27:38, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: > On 5/30/2026 8:11 PM, J. P. Gilliver wrote: >> >> But does using it retain settings (i. e. pick them up from the existing >> installation? (Or, by "clean install", do you mean scrub everything >> anyway?) I'd hate to have to redo everything (including newsgroups). > > > Depends on the software. IN general, yes, you can just move settings and > data over after installing the new version in Windows & Linux.... maybe > a bit tricky for Android and iOS. > Sorry, I hadn't realised this had been crossposted to so many places; I was asking about Thunderbird specifically (as I think this thread was originally talking about the relative sizes of TB's upgrade vs. full installer). -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Hadrian's Wall has never been a border between Scotland and England. It lies entirely within England but, when it was built in AD 122 by the Romans as a defence against the raiding Picts, the future English were still in Germany and the Scottish were still in Ireland. - Michael Cullen, Skye, in RT 2014/12/6-12
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| From | "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-15 18:52 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <110olgi$9s6k$1@toylet.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #32177 |
On 5/30/2026 11:29 PM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>
> Sorry, I hadn't realised this had been crossposted to so many places; I
> was asking about Thunderbird specifically ....
It's my responsibility and liability! Don't worry!! ;)
Delta update method.... I know mainframe operating systems use delta
updates. I wonder what will happen if you re-install an mainframe
operating system ... would you need to apply YEARS of delta updates
afterwards??
End of discussion. Sorry!!!!
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| From | "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-15 08:58 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <110ost1$c1iq$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #32341 |
On 06/15/2026 6:52 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: > > Delta update method.... I know mainframe operating systems use delta > updates. I wonder what will happen if you re-install an mainframe > operating system ... would you need to apply YEARS of delta updates > afterwards?? > No. -- ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ
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| From | "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-15 22:35 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <110p2ka$dt38$1@toylet.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #32349 |
On 6/15/2026 8:58 PM, ....winston wrote:
> On 06/15/2026 6:52 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>>
>> Delta update method.... I know mainframe operating systems use delta
>> updates. I wonder what will happen if you re-install an mainframe
>> operating system ... would you need to apply YEARS of delta updates
>> afterwards??
>
> No.
I have never ever operated a mainframe computer. I supposed you know
what you said. :)
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-15 14:07 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <110pf0f$i6d3$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #32354 |
On Mon, 6/15/2026 10:35 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: > On 6/15/2026 8:58 PM, ....winston wrote: >> On 06/15/2026 6:52 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: >>> >>> Delta update method.... I know mainframe operating systems use delta >>> updates. I wonder what will happen if you re-install an mainframe >>> operating system ... would you need to apply YEARS of delta updates >>> afterwards?? >> >> No. > > > I have never ever operated a mainframe computer. I supposed you know what you said. :) > > The mainframe is just like a personal computer, only it has a bigger power plug. If you've ever been in a mainframe computer room, one thing you remember, is how cold it is in there. You will forget all your delta updates, once you are freezing your ass off in there. Paul
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| From | "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-16 12:40 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <110qk3r$s3a0$2@toylet.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #32360 |
On 6/16/2026 2:07 AM, Paul wrote:
>
> If you've ever been in a mainframe computer room, one
> thing you remember, is how cold it is in there. You will
> forget all your delta updates, once you are freezing
> your ass off in there.
Operators usually wear suits, like Men In Black. Not sure about (sexy?)
female operators. And outside contractors.
I did enter and exit a mainframe computer room when doing industrial
placement in IBM World Trade (Asia) Corp. in Hong Kong. It's not that
"freezing your ass off". :)
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-16 07:44 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <110rcv2$1369v$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #32370 |
On Tue, 6/16/2026 12:40 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: > On 6/16/2026 2:07 AM, Paul wrote: >> >> If you've ever been in a mainframe computer room, one >> thing you remember, is how cold it is in there. You will >> forget all your delta updates, once you are freezing >> your ass off in there. > > Operators usually wear suits, like Men In Black. Not sure about (sexy?) female operators. And outside contractors. > > I did enter and exit a mainframe computer room when doing industrial placement in > IBM World Trade (Asia) Corp. in Hong Kong. It's not that "freezing your ass off". :) Thermal practices vary by installation. Some of our mainframes were installed in building spaces with weird dimensions (long and slim). Those style of facilities did not use the "killer" chiller plant. You could dress normally there. The CDC machine, it might have been 57F with a breeze in there (the breeze is the part that kills you), and the woman operator wearing the thick angora sweater, she was constantly hugging herself for warmth. She just hated working in those conditions, but that wasn't a union shop. She never ever smiled. That's why my nick for her was "The Ice Queen". And nobody wore suits in our mainframe facilities. Same goes for the university mainframe. Attire was casual. You would wear something heavy enough, for the conditions. Paul
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| From | "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-16 19:48 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <110rd5g$1370i$1@toylet.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #32376 |
On 6/16/2026 7:44 PM, Paul wrote:
>
> The CDC machine, it might have been 57F with a breeze in there
> (the breeze is the part that kills you), and the woman operator
> wearing the thick angora sweater, she was constantly hugging herself
> for warmth. She just hated working in those conditions, but that wasn't
> a union shop. She never ever smiled. That's why
> my nick for her was "The Ice Queen".
You should have hugged "The Ice Queen" more often and tightly!!
Sorry, It's off-topic and PG13. :)
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-16 15:19 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <n9d0r1Fas8oU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #32376 |
On 2026-06-16 13:44, Paul wrote:
> On Tue, 6/16/2026 12:40 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>> On 6/16/2026 2:07 AM, Paul wrote:
>>>
>>> If you've ever been in a mainframe computer room, one
>>> thing you remember, is how cold it is in there. You will
>>> forget all your delta updates, once you are freezing
>>> your ass off in there.
>>
>> Operators usually wear suits, like Men In Black. Not sure about (sexy?) female operators. And outside contractors.
>>
>> I did enter and exit a mainframe computer room when doing industrial placement in
>> IBM World Trade (Asia) Corp. in Hong Kong. It's not that "freezing your ass off". :)
>
> Thermal practices vary by installation. Some of our mainframes
> were installed in building spaces with weird dimensions
> (long and slim). Those style of facilities did not use
> the "killer" chiller plant. You could dress normally there.
>
> The CDC machine, it might have been 57F with a breeze in there
> (the breeze is the part that kills you), and the woman operator
> wearing the thick angora sweater, she was constantly hugging herself
> for warmth. She just hated working in those conditions, but that wasn't
> a union shop. She never ever smiled. That's why
> my nick for her was "The Ice Queen".
ROTFL :-D
>
> And nobody wore suits in our mainframe facilities. Same goes
> for the university mainframe. Attire was casual. You would
> wear something heavy enough, for the conditions.
It is worse if you sit down.
I'm told there are worse places: abattoirs. I knew a cleaning girl that
preferred cleaning than working there. She got sick.
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Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
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| From | "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-16 21:55 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <110rkkg$15gs7$1@toylet.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #32381 |
On 6/16/2026 9:19 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2026-06-16 13:44, Paul wrote:
>>
>> The CDC machine, it might have been 57F with a breeze in there
>> (the breeze is the part that kills you), and the woman operator
>> wearing the thick angora sweater, she was constantly hugging herself
>> for warmth. She just hated working in those conditions, but that wasn't
>> a union shop. She never ever smiled. That's why
>> my nick for her was "The Ice Queen".
>
> It is worse if you sit down.
>
> I'm told there are worse places: abattoirs. I knew a cleaning girl that
> preferred cleaning than working there. She got sick.
Better wear a full face-mask and a disposable coat. Abattoirs are as
dangerous as mortuary in hospitals. The floor is always dirty.
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-16 20:28 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <n9diupFff4aU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #32385 |
On 2026-06-16 15:55, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> On 6/16/2026 9:19 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> On 2026-06-16 13:44, Paul wrote:
>>>
>>> The CDC machine, it might have been 57F with a breeze in there
>>> (the breeze is the part that kills you), and the woman operator
>>> wearing the thick angora sweater, she was constantly hugging herself
>>> for warmth. She just hated working in those conditions, but that wasn't
>>> a union shop. She never ever smiled. That's why
>>> my nick for her was "The Ice Queen".
>>
>> It is worse if you sit down.
>>
>> I'm told there are worse places: abattoirs. I knew a cleaning girl that
>> preferred cleaning than working there. She got sick.
>
> Better wear a full face-mask and a disposable coat. Abattoirs are as
> dangerous as mortuary in hospitals. The floor is always dirty.
>
This place is spotless clean.
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Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-18 12:59 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <110vu03$2c52p$1@toylet.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #32401 |
On 6/17/2026 2:28 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2026-06-16 15:55, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>>
>> Better wear a full face-mask and a disposable coat. Abattoirs are as
>> dangerous as mortuary in hospitals. The floor is always dirty.
>>
>
> This place is spotless clean.
>
That's strange. A *huamn* aAbattoir?? BANG!! BANG!! :)
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^ ^ https://github.com/changmw/changmw
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-18 08:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <n9hi6aF3teeU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #32453 |
On 2026-06-18 06:59, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> On 6/17/2026 2:28 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> On 2026-06-16 15:55, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>>>
>>> Better wear a full face-mask and a disposable coat. Abattoirs are as
>>> dangerous as mortuary in hospitals. The floor is always dirty.
>>>
>>
>> This place is spotless clean.
>>
>
> That's strange. A *huamn* aAbattoir?? BANG!! BANG!! :)
The place I'm talking about makes (as final product) sausages and other
things sealed in plastic and kept cold, that keeps for a month or more.
You can not do that if the place is not about as clean as a surgery theatre.
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Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-18 17:49 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <1110ev8$2gmlp$1@toylet.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #32460 |
On 6/18/2026 2:40 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2026-06-18 06:59, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>>
>> That's strange. A *huamn* aAbattoir?? BANG!! BANG!! :)
>
> The place I'm talking about makes (as final product) sausages and other
> things sealed in plastic and kept cold, that keeps for a month or more.
> You can not do that if the place is not about as clean as a surgery theatre.
Why didn't you say "sausage factory"? BANG!! :)
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-18 14:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <n9i63iF6v2hU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #32467 |
On 2026-06-18 11:49, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> On 6/18/2026 2:40 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> On 2026-06-18 06:59, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>>>
>>> That's strange. A *huamn* aAbattoir?? BANG!! BANG!! :)
>>
>> The place I'm talking about makes (as final product) sausages and other
>> things sealed in plastic and kept cold, that keeps for a month or more.
>> You can not do that if the place is not about as clean as a surgery
>> theatre.
> Why didn't you say "sausage factory"? BANG!! :)
>
Because it is an abattoir. They do the entire thing, from killing the
pigs to producing the sausages.
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Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-18 14:21 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <n9i66fF6v2gU6@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #32475 |
On 2026-06-18 14:20, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2026-06-18 11:49, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>> On 6/18/2026 2:40 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>> On 2026-06-18 06:59, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>>>>
>>>> That's strange. A *huamn* aAbattoir?? BANG!! BANG!! :)
>>>
>>> The place I'm talking about makes (as final product) sausages and other
>>> things sealed in plastic and kept cold, that keeps for a month or more.
>>> You can not do that if the place is not about as clean as a surgery
>>> theatre.
>> Why didn't you say "sausage factory"? BANG!! :)
>>
>
> Because it is an abattoir. They do the entire thing, from killing the
> pigs to producing the sausages.
>
And the point, anyway, is that it is a colder place than any computer or
server room. Harder on the staff.
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Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-18 21:56 +0800 |
| Subject | Re: (old_version.exe .... devices at 7C/44F or lower |
| Message-ID | <1110tdk$2kv4q$2@toylet.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #32476 |
On 6/18/2026 8:21 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2026-06-18 14:20, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> On 2026-06-18 11:49, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>>> On 6/18/2026 2:40 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>> On 2026-06-18 06:59, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> That's strange. A *huamn* aAbattoir?? BANG!! BANG!! :)
>>>>
>>>> The place I'm talking about makes (as final product) sausages and other
>>>> things sealed in plastic and kept cold, that keeps for a month or more.
>>>> You can not do that if the place is not about as clean as a surgery
>>>> theatre.
>>> Why didn't you say "sausage factory"? BANG!! :)
>>>
>>
>> Because it is an abattoir. They do the entire thing, from killing the
>> pigs to producing the sausages.
>>
>
> And the point, anyway, is that it is a colder place than any computer or
> server room. Harder on the staff.
>
Understood. I didn't comprehend "7C/44F" as temperature readings but
something else.
BANG!! (shot a colorful fly!) :)
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