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Why Combine taskbar buttons and Hide labels are combined?

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  Why Combine taskbar buttons and Hide labels are combined? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-24 13:50 -0500
    Re: Why Combine taskbar buttons and Hide labels are combined? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-02-24 19:54 +0000
      Re: Why Combine taskbar buttons and Hide labels are combined? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-25 18:23 -0500
    Re: Why Combine taskbar buttons and Hide labels are combined? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-26 16:01 +0000
      Re: Why Combine taskbar buttons and Hide labels are combined? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-03-07 13:48 -0500

#17451 — Why Combine taskbar buttons and Hide labels are combined?

In Settings, Personalization, Taskbar, why do you think Combine taskbar
buttons and Hide labels are combined?   If one could hide the labels
separately, then there would be more room in the taskbar and less need
to combine the buttons. 

I know what the icons mean and don't need the labels, but I have two
instances of the file manager and two instances of Firefox, and it saves
time to be able to click on the one I want.  Currently, the tasks are
not combined and the labels are showing but they are only 2 letters long
anyhow and they don't help me choose anyhow, (but I quickly learn what
the first one is and what the second one is.) 

Weren't these separate things in win10?  Do you think there is much
chance a tweaker could separate them in win11? 

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#17452

micky wrote:

> why do you think Combine taskbar
> buttons and Hide labels are combined?

Because they're both aimed at saving space in the taskbar.

> Currently, the tasks are
> not combined and the labels are showing but they are only 2 letters long

Win+Tab or Alt+Tab

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#17464

In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Mon, 24 Feb 2025 19:54:24 +0000, Andy
Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

>micky wrote:
>
>> why do you think Combine taskbar
>> buttons and Hide labels are combined?
>
>Because they're both aimed at saving space in the taskbar.

Could have offered a) combine, b) hide labels, c) Both. 
>
>> Currently, the tasks are
>> not combined and the labels are showing but they are only 2 letters long
>
>Win+Tab or Alt+Tab

I know those. Not good enough. I hate to take steps backward.  

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#17476

micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
> In Settings, Personalization, Taskbar, why do you think Combine taskbar
> buttons and Hide labels are combined?   If one could hide the labels
> separately, then there would be more room in the taskbar and less need
> to combine the buttons. 
> 
> I know what the icons mean and don't need the labels, but I have two
> instances of the file manager and two instances of Firefox, and it saves
> time to be able to click on the one I want.

  You keep saying this and do not respond to my comments, so I wonder if
you have some setting disabled.

  If I hover over a multi-window icon on the Taskbar, 'thumbnails'
(small pictures of those windows) popup above the Taskbar and I can
directly see which window I want, click on it and it will 'open' (become
the active window).

  Does that not happen for you? If not, we can try to figure out which
setting you have disabled/not-enabled.

  The 'thumbnails' feature is actually clearer than multiple icons with
labels, because the thumbnails show the full top line of the windows, so
for example the browser thumbnail says 'Media Info Check of 000 ---
Post' for one of Paul's pictures and that description is even *longer*
than that of the tab (which only says 'Media Info Check of'), because
the window has multiple tabs and the thumbnails shows the active one.

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#17631

In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on 26 Feb 2025 16:01:03 GMT, Frank Slootweg
<this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:

>micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
>> In Settings, Personalization, Taskbar, why do you think Combine taskbar
>> buttons and Hide labels are combined?   If one could hide the labels
>> separately, then there would be more room in the taskbar and less need
>> to combine the buttons. 
>> 
>> I know what the icons mean and don't need the labels, but I have two
>> instances of the file manager and two instances of Firefox, and it saves
>> time to be able to click on the one I want.
>
>  You keep saying this and do not respond to my comments, so I wonder if
>you have some setting disabled.

I'm sorry I hven't replied before. No disrespect intended.  The win11
box is still my part-time computer, only 4 or 5 hours in the last week,
mostly to fix Eudora (which is now fixed), znd since you -- I think it
was you -- said I'd like the new taskbar when I got used to it, I
wzanted to take time to get used to it.  And then I went to Texas for a
week, to visit my brother, taking only the win10 laptop.  
 
>  If I hover over a multi-window icon on the Taskbar, 'thumbnails'
>(small pictures of those windows) popup above the Taskbar and I can
>directly see which window I want, click on it and it will 'open' (become
>the active window).
>
>  Does that not happen for you? If not, we can try to figure out which
>setting you have disabled/not-enabled.

Yes, it happens and I don't like it. It adds another step, really more
than one more step** to changing tasks.  I've never liked it... Win10
can be that way too, at least for Firefox, and that's why I was happy
when I learned in the win10 group about 7+Taskbar Tweaker which has
settings to ungroup tabs like this.  And every time something unknown
happens tht groups them again, I immediately start the twezaker and
ungroup them, and this is in Win10.
>
>  The 'thumbnails' feature is actually clearer than multiple icons with
>labels, because the thumbnails show the full top line of the windows, so

I don't see anything big enough to read, and even if I did, I don't need
that if there are sepzarte tabs in the taskbar.  I know the older ones
are on the left.   If I hzave 10 Firefox tabs, I know that most recent
one is on the right but I also might remember that I want the 3rd one or
the next-to-last.   Having to wait until the thumbnils appear, even if
that is totally instantaneous, is slower for me than knowing which tab
the cursor should head for even before I start to move the mouse. 

>for example the browser thumbnail says 'Media Info Check of 000 ---
>Post' for one of Paul's pictures and that description is even *longer*
>than that of the tab (which only says 'Media Info Check of'), because
>the window has multiple tabs and the thumbnails shows the active one.

Even with the time in Texas, I did have some time to notice things. The
problem goes beyong active tasks tasks pinned to the tsskbar. It affects
all 3 sections of the taskbar. 

Right now, i win11 there are only 8 icons in the QuickLaunch Bar, and if
I were to add more, it would tzke space/width away from the other two
sections.  
       On my win10 box, I  hve 3 rows of taskbar buttons in the center
and that leavess vertical room in the Quick Launch bar for 4 rows of 6
totlly 24 icons in the QLB   8 vs. 24

In Win11, there is room for only for 6 icons in the Systray.  
In the win10 box I have 3 rows of 3 taking less width but totally 9
icons.  If I made room for more, it would take space from the center
section,                     6 vs. 9

In Win11 in the center section there are 17 tabs now (with some room
wasted on 1 or 2- letter labels, including "..." for each one), and
there isn't room for many more. 
  But in win10 I have 41 task bar buttons in the middle, 12 of them open
tasks and 29 just pinned, plus any number of open Firefox windows, right
now 14.                     17 vs. 55

Can you see why I don't like the limitations of win11? 

This is the especially easy to do on desktop computer with a bigger than
16" monitor.  Not much bigger, but with plenty of vertical space. 

This may seem eccentric to some but it's not hurting anyone.   Why did
they take it away from us? 

Why is it so hard to accept that different people like different things?
De gustibus non es disputandum. There is no disputing about taste,

Chacun à son goût.  Each to his own taste.   

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