Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]
Groups > alt.comp.os.windows-11 > #18520 > unrolled thread
| Started by | micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> |
|---|---|
| First post | 2025-04-19 22:34 -0400 |
| Last post | 2025-04-21 12:08 -0400 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 81 — 17 participants |
Back to article view | Back to alt.comp.os.windows-11
Mechanical or SSD for backup drive micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-19 22:34 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-20 03:48 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-04-20 09:27 +0100
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Valerio Vanni <valerio.vanni@inwind.it> - 2025-04-20 11:50 +0200
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-20 20:23 +0200
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-20 16:55 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-21 14:42 +0200
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-21 21:22 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-22 20:15 +1000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-22 16:52 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-04-23 00:37 +0100
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-04-23 17:45 +0100
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-24 20:56 +1000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-24 22:37 +0200
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-24 21:48 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-25 05:32 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-25 20:14 +1000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-25 13:37 +0200
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-25 23:32 +1000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-25 20:20 +0200
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-04-25 22:02 +0100
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-26 19:44 +1000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-26 21:00 +1000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-26 20:07 +0200
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-26 17:20 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-27 14:17 +0200
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-26 19:24 +0000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-26 22:28 +0200
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-04-27 11:36 +0100
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-28 00:16 +1000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 21:09 +0200
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-30 19:24 +1000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-04-30 20:20 +0100
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 21:18 +0200
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-04-25 19:04 +0100
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-25 23:33 +0200
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-26 20:04 +1000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-26 21:05 +1000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-23 19:26 +1000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Sam E <no.email@here.invalid> - 2025-04-22 23:00 +0000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-04-23 00:40 +0100
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-20 07:15 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-20 11:11 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-20 12:08 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-04-20 12:38 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-04-20 12:31 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-04-21 02:38 +0000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-21 03:52 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-21 11:51 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-21 21:13 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-04-22 06:07 +0000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-22 05:34 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-21 07:40 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-21 09:12 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-04-21 14:54 +0100
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-04-21 15:29 +0100
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-04-21 16:06 +0100
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-21 17:45 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-04-22 00:15 +0100
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-04-21 23:01 -0500
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-04-22 06:58 +0100
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-22 05:47 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-04-22 10:37 -0500
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-22 14:34 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-21 11:38 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-21 18:29 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-21 22:23 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-21 14:05 +0000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Mr Xi Ji Ping <ping@china.cn> - 2025-04-21 15:30 +0000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-04-21 11:28 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-15 21:33 +1000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-05-15 07:41 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-15 14:06 +0200
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-15 09:31 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-15 23:36 +1000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-05-15 23:26 +0000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-05-15 14:27 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-16 18:38 +1000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-05-16 14:51 +0000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-05-16 11:06 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-21 12:08 -0400
Page 2 of 5 — ← Prev page 1 [2] 3 4 5 Next page →
| From | "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-04-25 22:02 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <20250425220235.6f7a1faee3ced3e453824567@127.0.0.1> |
| In reply to | #18667 |
On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 20:20:34 +0200 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > On 2025-04-25 15:32, Daniel70 wrote: > > On 25/04/2025 9:37 pm, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> On 2025-04-25 12:14, Daniel70 wrote: > >>> On 25/04/2025 6:37 am, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >>>> On 2025-04-24 12:56, Daniel70 wrote: > >>>>> On 24/04/2025 2:45 am, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote: > >>>>>> On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 00:37:07 +0100 > >>>>>> Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote: > >>>>>>> On 2025-04-22 21:52, micky wrote: > >>>>>>>> In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Tue, 22 Apr 2025 20:15:04 +1000, > >>>>>>>> Daniel70 > >>>>>>>> <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Days and Years are actually getting longer?? ;-P > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Yes, exactly. So I'm not the only one who has noticed this. I > >>>>>>>> think > >>>>>>>> there were also articles in Scientific American and National > >>>>>>>> Geographic > >>>>>>>> that confirm this. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Let us explain this properly, or at least as best I can without > >>>>>>> recourse > >>>>>>> to diagrams ... > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The earth is spinning around its axis once every 24 hours, and as a > >>>>>>> consequence is not the perfect sphere that it would be were this > >>>>>>> not so. > >>>>>> [] > >>>>>>> Why the Moon is getting further away from Earth > >>>>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12311119 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> So The Pope's minions will have to find a new formula for Easter, > >>>>>> RSN. > >>>>>> > >>>>> WHY?? > >>>> > >>>> All christian religions and judaism would have to change the > >>>> formula, but not the definition. > >>>> > >>> WHAT?? As I understand it, MOST Christian religions (Orthodox > >>> excluded, I think) set Easter according to the first FULL MOON > >>> following the (Northern) Spring Equinox. > >>> > >>> If the Moon moves further away (or nearer), there will still be Full > >>> MOONs .... so no change .... or no NEED for change. > >> > >> But the full moon will happen on different days. The orbit changes, so > >> the formula changes. > >> > >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_of_Easter#Algorithms> > >> > > After a quick browse, from that site .... > > > > Quote > > One can easily see how conversion from day-of-March (22 to 56) to day- > > and-month (22 March to 25 April) > > End Quote > > > > Where does the 34 days (56 - 22) come from?? Is this assuming The Moon > > drifts away from Earth so its orbit takes longer?? > > No. The algorithm runs with the current orbit assumptions. > And it varies by 34 days because Easter is declared to be the first Sunday after a Full Moon after the Spring Equinox . But don't blame me, I didn't start the religion. -- Bah, and indeed Humbug.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-04-26 19:44 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <vui9u4$24aao$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #18678 |
On 26/04/2025 7:02 am, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote: > On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 20:20:34 +0200 "Carlos E.R." > <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >> On 2025-04-25 15:32, Daniel70 wrote: >>> On 25/04/2025 9:37 pm, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>> On 2025-04-25 12:14, Daniel70 wrote: >>>>> On 25/04/2025 6:37 am, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>>>> On 2025-04-24 12:56, Daniel70 wrote: >>>>>>> On 24/04/2025 2:45 am, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote: >>>>>>>> On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 00:37:07 +0100 Java Jive >>>>>>>> <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 2025-04-22 21:52, micky wrote: >>>>>>>>>> In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Tue, 22 Apr 2025 >>>>>>>>>> 20:15:04 +1000, Daniel70 >>>>>>>>>> <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Days and Years are actually getting longer?? ;-P >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes, exactly. So I'm not the only one who has >>>>>>>>>> noticed this. I think there were also articles in >>>>>>>>>> Scientific American and National Geographic that >>>>>>>>>> confirm this. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Let us explain this properly, or at least as best I >>>>>>>>> can without recourse to diagrams ... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The earth is spinning around its axis once every 24 >>>>>>>>> hours, and as a consequence is not the perfect sphere >>>>>>>>> that it would be were this not so. >>>>>>>> [] >>>>>>>>> Why the Moon is getting further away from Earth >>>>>>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12311119 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So The Pope's minions will have to find a new formula for >>>>>>>> Easter, RSN. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> WHY?? >>>>>> >>>>>> All christian religions and judaism would have to change >>>>>> the formula, but not the definition. >>>>>> >>>>> WHAT?? As I understand it, MOST Christian religions >>>>> (Orthodox excluded, I think) set Easter according to the >>>>> first FULL MOON following the (Northern) Spring Equinox. >>>>> >>>>> If the Moon moves further away (or nearer), there will still >>>>> be Full MOONs .... so no change .... or no NEED for change. >>>> >>>> But the full moon will happen on different days. The orbit >>>> changes, so the formula changes. >>>> >>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_of_Easter#Algorithms> >>>> >>> After a quick browse, from that site .... >>> >>> Quote One can easily see how conversion from day-of-March (22 to >>> 56) to day- and-month (22 March to 25 April) End Quote >>> >>> Where does the 34 days (56 - 22) come from?? Is this assuming The >>> Moon drifts away from Earth so its orbit takes longer?? >> >> No. The algorithm runs with the current orbit assumptions. >> > And it varies by 34 days because Easter is declared to be the first > Sunday after a Full Moon after the Spring Equinox . But don't blame > me, I didn't start the religion. > Ah!! Right! Thank you. -- Daniel70
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-04-26 21:00 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <vuiedc$286ns$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #18697 |
On 26/04/2025 7:44 pm, Daniel70 wrote: > On 26/04/2025 7:02 am, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote: >> On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 20:20:34 +0200 "Carlos E.R." >> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>> On 2025-04-25 15:32, Daniel70 wrote: >>>> On 25/04/2025 9:37 pm, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>>> On 2025-04-25 12:14, Daniel70 wrote: >>>>>> On 25/04/2025 6:37 am, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>>>>> On 2025-04-24 12:56, Daniel70 wrote: >>>>>>>> On 24/04/2025 2:45 am, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 00:37:07 +0100 Java Jive >>>>>>>>> <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 2025-04-22 21:52, micky wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Tue, 22 Apr 2025 >>>>>>>>>>> 20:15:04 +1000, Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Days and Years are actually getting longer?? ;-P >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Yes, exactly. So I'm not the only one who has >>>>>>>>>>> noticed this. I think there were also articles in >>>>>>>>>>> Scientific American and National Geographic that >>>>>>>>>>> confirm this. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Let us explain this properly, or at least as best I >>>>>>>>>> can without recourse to diagrams ... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The earth is spinning around its axis once every 24 >>>>>>>>>> hours, and as a consequence is not the perfect sphere >>>>>>>>>> that it would be were this not so. >>>>>>>>> [] >>>>>>>>>> Why the Moon is getting further away from Earth >>>>>>>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12311119 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So The Pope's minions will have to find a new formula for >>>>>>>>> Easter, RSN. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> WHY?? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All christian religions and judaism would have to change >>>>>>> the formula, but not the definition. >>>>>>> >>>>>> WHAT?? As I understand it, MOST Christian religions >>>>>> (Orthodox excluded, I think) set Easter according to the >>>>>> first FULL MOON following the (Northern) Spring Equinox. >>>>>> >>>>>> If the Moon moves further away (or nearer), there will still >>>>>> be Full MOONs .... so no change .... or no NEED for change. >>>>> >>>>> But the full moon will happen on different days. The orbit >>>>> changes, so the formula changes. >>>>> >>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_of_Easter#Algorithms> >>>>> >>>> After a quick browse, from that site .... >>>> >>>> Quote One can easily see how conversion from day-of-March (22 to >>>> 56) to day- and-month (22 March to 25 April) End Quote >>>> >>>> Where does the 34 days (56 - 22) come from?? Is this assuming The >>>> Moon drifts away from Earth so its orbit takes longer?? >>> >>> No. The algorithm runs with the current orbit assumptions. >>> >> And it varies by 34 days because Easter is declared to be the first >> Sunday after a Full Moon after the Spring Equinox . But don't blame >> me, I didn't start the religion. >> > Ah!! Right! Thank you. (WARNING RELIGION ALERT!!) .... and, for many a year, that timing (Full Moon) has seemed WRONG to me!! As part of Christ's Crucifixion on Good Friday, the World is supposed to have gone DARK for several hours. If, rather than it happening on a Full Moon, if it had happened on a New Moon which was also an Eclipse, that would have sent The World dark but only for a few minutes rather than for several hours!! -- Daniel70
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-04-26 20:07 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <8vjvdlxfnn.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #18697 |
On 2025-04-26 11:44, Daniel70 wrote: > On 26/04/2025 7:02 am, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote: >> On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 20:20:34 +0200 "Carlos E.R." >> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>> On 2025-04-25 15:32, Daniel70 wrote: >>>> On 25/04/2025 9:37 pm, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>>> On 2025-04-25 12:14, Daniel70 wrote: >>>>>> On 25/04/2025 6:37 am, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>>>>> On 2025-04-24 12:56, Daniel70 wrote: >>>>>>>> On 24/04/2025 2:45 am, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 00:37:07 +0100 Java Jive >>>>>>>>> <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 2025-04-22 21:52, micky wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Tue, 22 Apr 2025 >>>>>>>>>>> 20:15:04 +1000, Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Days and Years are actually getting longer?? ;-P >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Yes, exactly. So I'm not the only one who has >>>>>>>>>>> noticed this. I think there were also articles in >>>>>>>>>>> Scientific American and National Geographic that >>>>>>>>>>> confirm this. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Let us explain this properly, or at least as best I >>>>>>>>>> can without recourse to diagrams ... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The earth is spinning around its axis once every 24 >>>>>>>>>> hours, and as a consequence is not the perfect sphere >>>>>>>>>> that it would be were this not so. >>>>>>>>> [] >>>>>>>>>> Why the Moon is getting further away from Earth https:// >>>>>>>>>> www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12311119 >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> So The Pope's minions will have to find a new formula for >>>>>>>>> Easter, RSN. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> WHY?? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All christian religions and judaism would have to change >>>>>>> the formula, but not the definition. >>>>>>> >>>>>> WHAT?? As I understand it, MOST Christian religions >>>>>> (Orthodox excluded, I think) set Easter according to the >>>>>> first FULL MOON following the (Northern) Spring Equinox. >>>>>> >>>>>> If the Moon moves further away (or nearer), there will still >>>>>> be Full MOONs .... so no change .... or no NEED for change. >>>>> >>>>> But the full moon will happen on different days. The orbit >>>>> changes, so the formula changes. >>>>> >>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_of_Easter#Algorithms> >>>>> >>>> After a quick browse, from that site .... >>>> >>>> Quote One can easily see how conversion from day-of-March (22 to >>>> 56) to day- and-month (22 March to 25 April) End Quote >>>> >>>> Where does the 34 days (56 - 22) come from?? Is this assuming The >>>> Moon drifts away from Earth so its orbit takes longer?? >>> >>> No. The algorithm runs with the current orbit assumptions. >>> >> And it varies by 34 days because Easter is declared to be the first >> Sunday after a Full Moon after the Spring Equinox . But don't blame >> me, I didn't start the religion. >> > Ah!! Right! Thank you. I remember, long ago, I think that I was in high school, that the magazine Scientific American, here translated as Investigación y Ciencia (Investigation and Science) carried an article, perhaps on the section Mathematical Games, which described an algorithm to calculate the date of Easter Sunday for maybe two hundred years. I remember I used my programmable calculator (TI-57 or 58C) I had back then to run it. It seemed magic. -- Cheers, Carlos.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-04-26 17:20 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <vujim9$37q7s$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #18708 |
On Sat, 4/26/2025 2:07 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-04-26 11:44, Daniel70 wrote: >> On 26/04/2025 7:02 am, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote: >>> On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 20:20:34 +0200 "Carlos E.R." >>> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>>> On 2025-04-25 15:32, Daniel70 wrote: >>>>> On 25/04/2025 9:37 pm, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>>>> On 2025-04-25 12:14, Daniel70 wrote: >>>>>>> On 25/04/2025 6:37 am, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>>>>>> On 2025-04-24 12:56, Daniel70 wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 24/04/2025 2:45 am, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 00:37:07 +0100 Java Jive >>>>>>>>>> <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-04-22 21:52, micky wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Tue, 22 Apr 2025 >>>>>>>>>>>> 20:15:04 +1000, Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Days and Years are actually getting longer?? ;-P >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, exactly. So I'm not the only one who has >>>>>>>>>>>> noticed this. I think there were also articles in >>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific American and National Geographic that >>>>>>>>>>>> confirm this. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Let us explain this properly, or at least as best I >>>>>>>>>>> can without recourse to diagrams ... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The earth is spinning around its axis once every 24 >>>>>>>>>>> hours, and as a consequence is not the perfect sphere >>>>>>>>>>> that it would be were this not so. >>>>>>>>>> [] >>>>>>>>>>> Why the Moon is getting further away from Earth https:// www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12311119 >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> So The Pope's minions will have to find a new formula for >>>>>>>>>> Easter, RSN. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> WHY?? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> All christian religions and judaism would have to change >>>>>>>> the formula, but not the definition. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> WHAT?? As I understand it, MOST Christian religions >>>>>>> (Orthodox excluded, I think) set Easter according to the >>>>>>> first FULL MOON following the (Northern) Spring Equinox. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If the Moon moves further away (or nearer), there will still >>>>>>> be Full MOONs .... so no change .... or no NEED for change. >>>>>> >>>>>> But the full moon will happen on different days. The orbit >>>>>> changes, so the formula changes. >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_of_Easter#Algorithms> >>>>>> >>>>> After a quick browse, from that site .... >>>>> >>>>> Quote One can easily see how conversion from day-of-March (22 to >>>>> 56) to day- and-month (22 March to 25 April) End Quote >>>>> >>>>> Where does the 34 days (56 - 22) come from?? Is this assuming The >>>>> Moon drifts away from Earth so its orbit takes longer?? >>>> >>>> No. The algorithm runs with the current orbit assumptions. >>>> >>> And it varies by 34 days because Easter is declared to be the first >>> Sunday after a Full Moon after the Spring Equinox . But don't blame >>> me, I didn't start the religion. >>> >> Ah!! Right! Thank you. > > I remember, long ago, I think that I was in high school, that the magazine Scientific American, here translated as Investigación y Ciencia (Investigation and Science) carried an article, perhaps on the section Mathematical Games, which described an algorithm to calculate the date of Easter Sunday for maybe two hundred years. I remember I used my programmable calculator (TI-57 or 58C) I had back then to run it. > > It seemed magic. > That's probably a Martin Gardner article. Paul
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-04-27 14:17 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <tqj1elxram.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #18718 |
On 2025-04-26 23:20, Paul wrote: > On Sat, 4/26/2025 2:07 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2025-04-26 11:44, Daniel70 wrote: >>> On 26/04/2025 7:02 am, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote: >>>> On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 20:20:34 +0200 "Carlos E.R." >>>> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>>>> On 2025-04-25 15:32, Daniel70 wrote: >>>>>> On 25/04/2025 9:37 pm, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>>>>> On 2025-04-25 12:14, Daniel70 wrote: >>>>>>>> On 25/04/2025 6:37 am, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 2025-04-24 12:56, Daniel70 wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 24/04/2025 2:45 am, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 00:37:07 +0100 Java Jive >>>>>>>>>>> <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-04-22 21:52, micky wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Tue, 22 Apr 2025 >>>>>>>>>>>>> 20:15:04 +1000, Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Days and Years are actually getting longer?? ;-P >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, exactly. So I'm not the only one who has >>>>>>>>>>>>> noticed this. I think there were also articles in >>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific American and National Geographic that >>>>>>>>>>>>> confirm this. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Let us explain this properly, or at least as best I >>>>>>>>>>>> can without recourse to diagrams ... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The earth is spinning around its axis once every 24 >>>>>>>>>>>> hours, and as a consequence is not the perfect sphere >>>>>>>>>>>> that it would be were this not so. >>>>>>>>>>> [] >>>>>>>>>>>> Why the Moon is getting further away from Earth https:// www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12311119 >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> So The Pope's minions will have to find a new formula for >>>>>>>>>>> Easter, RSN. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> WHY?? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> All christian religions and judaism would have to change >>>>>>>>> the formula, but not the definition. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> WHAT?? As I understand it, MOST Christian religions >>>>>>>> (Orthodox excluded, I think) set Easter according to the >>>>>>>> first FULL MOON following the (Northern) Spring Equinox. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If the Moon moves further away (or nearer), there will still >>>>>>>> be Full MOONs .... so no change .... or no NEED for change. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But the full moon will happen on different days. The orbit >>>>>>> changes, so the formula changes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_of_Easter#Algorithms> >>>>>>> >>>>>> After a quick browse, from that site .... >>>>>> >>>>>> Quote One can easily see how conversion from day-of-March (22 to >>>>>> 56) to day- and-month (22 March to 25 April) End Quote >>>>>> >>>>>> Where does the 34 days (56 - 22) come from?? Is this assuming The >>>>>> Moon drifts away from Earth so its orbit takes longer?? >>>>> >>>>> No. The algorithm runs with the current orbit assumptions. >>>>> >>>> And it varies by 34 days because Easter is declared to be the first >>>> Sunday after a Full Moon after the Spring Equinox . But don't blame >>>> me, I didn't start the religion. >>>> >>> Ah!! Right! Thank you. >> >> I remember, long ago, I think that I was in high school, that the magazine Scientific American, here translated as Investigación y Ciencia (Investigation and Science) carried an article, perhaps on the section Mathematical Games, which described an algorithm to calculate the date of Easter Sunday for maybe two hundred years. I remember I used my programmable calculator (TI-57 or 58C) I had back then to run it. >> >> It seemed magic. >> > > That's probably a Martin Gardner article. Probably, I remember that name. I asked chatgpt. You said: Can you locate an article by Martin Gardner in Scientific American magazine about calculation of easter date? ChatGPT said: Yes, Martin Gardner authored several articles in Scientific American that delve into the calculation of Easter dates. One notable example is his column titled "Mathematical Games," which appeared in the October 1969 issue of the magazine. In this piece, Gardner explored the mathematical intricacies behind determining the date of Easter, shedding light on the complex interplay between lunar cycles and the ecclesiastical calendar. Academia+2SpringerLink+2Redbubble+2 For a comprehensive understanding of Gardner's work on this topic, you might consider referring to "Fractal Music, Hypercards, and More: Mathematical Recreations from Scientific American," a collection of his columns published in 1991. This compilation includes his writings from Scientific American between 1978 and 1979, offering a broader perspective on his mathematical explorations, including those related to calendar calculations. Academia Additionally, the article "A Quarter Century of Recreational Mathematics" provides insights into Gardner's contributions to the field and his approach to mathematical puzzles. This piece reflects on his extensive work and its impact on the mathematical community. Scientific American These resources should provide you with a deeper appreciation of Martin Gardner's exploration of Easter date calculations and his broader contributions to recreational mathematics. ChatGPT can make mistakes. Check important info. Unfortunately, <https://www.academia.edu/9665113/Martin_Gardner_Fractal_Music_Hypercards_and_More_Mathematical_Recreations_from_Scientific_American_1991_?utm_source=chatgpt.com> requires registration. <https://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/observations/a-quarter-century-of-recreational-m-2010-05-26/?utm_source=chatgpt.com> does not contain the word "easter" -- Cheers, Carlos.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-04-26 19:24 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <680d32fb$2$14$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> |
| In reply to | #18678 |
On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 22:02:35 +0100, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote: [snip] > And it varies by 34 days because Easter is declared to be the first > Sunday after a Full Moon after the Spring Equinox . But don't blame me, > I didn't start the religion. The rule I heard (for Easter date) said "ecclesiastical full moon". I don't know how that differs from the real full moon. -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ "You can't convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it's based on a deep seated need to believe." [Carl Sagan]
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-04-26 22:28 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <b8svdlxga8.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #18710 |
On 2025-04-26 21:24, Mark Lloyd wrote: > On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 22:02:35 +0100, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote: > > [snip] > >> And it varies by 34 days because Easter is declared to be the first >> Sunday after a Full Moon after the Spring Equinox . But don't blame me, >> I didn't start the religion. > > The rule I heard (for Easter date) said "ecclesiastical full moon". I > don't know how that differs from the real full moon. > «An ecclesiastical full moon is formally the 14th day of the ecclesiastical lunar month (an ecclesiastical moon) in an ecclesiastical lunar calendar. The ecclesiastical lunar calendar spans the year with lunar months of 30 and 29 days which are intended to approximate the observed phases of the Moon.» https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecclesiastical_full_moon -- Cheers, Carlos.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-04-27 11:36 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <20250427113639.ca1f70db28fb39d732765efd@127.0.0.1> |
| In reply to | #18714 |
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 22:28:27 +0200 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > On 2025-04-26 21:24, Mark Lloyd wrote: > > On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 22:02:35 +0100, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote: > > > > [snip] > > > >> And it varies by 34 days because Easter is declared to be the first > >> Sunday after a Full Moon after the Spring Equinox . But don't blame me, > >> I didn't start the religion. > > > > The rule I heard (for Easter date) said "ecclesiastical full moon". I > > don't know how that differs from the real full moon. > > > > «An ecclesiastical full moon is formally the 14th day of the > ecclesiastical lunar month (an ecclesiastical moon) in an ecclesiastical > lunar calendar. The ecclesiastical lunar calendar spans the year with > lunar months of 30 and 29 days which are intended to approximate the > observed phases of the Moon.» > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecclesiastical_full_moon > Luckily it the moon cycle (mostly) reoccurs after 19 years, to give an algorithm that's OK for a few thousand years. But there's drift as the Moon Earth double planet system settles down. The Moon will fly off after a bit, but not as dramatically as in MoonBase Alpha. -- Bah, and indeed Humbug.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-04-28 00:16 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <vule88$v6fj$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #18728 |
On 27/04/2025 8:36 pm, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote: > On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 22:28:27 +0200 > "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >> On 2025-04-26 21:24, Mark Lloyd wrote: >>> On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 22:02:35 +0100, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote: >>> >>> [snip] >>> >>>> And it varies by 34 days because Easter is declared to be the first >>>> Sunday after a Full Moon after the Spring Equinox . But don't blame me, >>>> I didn't start the religion. >>> >>> The rule I heard (for Easter date) said "ecclesiastical full moon". I >>> don't know how that differs from the real full moon. >>> >> >> «An ecclesiastical full moon is formally the 14th day of the >> ecclesiastical lunar month (an ecclesiastical moon) in an ecclesiastical >> lunar calendar. The ecclesiastical lunar calendar spans the year with >> lunar months of 30 and 29 days which are intended to approximate the >> observed phases of the Moon.» >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecclesiastical_full_moon >> > Luckily it the moon cycle (mostly) reoccurs after 19 years, to give > an algorithm that's OK for a few thousand years. But there's drift as the > Moon Earth double planet system settles down. The Moon will fly off after > a bit, but not as dramatically as in MoonBase Alpha. > OH!!! BUT I saw it on T.V.!! It HAS to occur!! ;-P -- Daniel70
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-04-29 21:09 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <gnk7elxh4d.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #18735 |
On 2025-04-29 19:48, Frank Slootweg wrote: > Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> wrote: >> >> [snip] >> >>> And everyone knows why the Computer in "2001" was called "HAL" don't >>> they?? ;-) >> >> IIRC, Heuristically programmed ALgorithmic computer. > > The urban legend is that it refers to 'IBM', shifted one letter. Don't > know if there's any truth in that. Arthur C. Clarke negated that, adamantly. -- Cheers, Carlos.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-04-30 19:24 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <vusq89$3vlia$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #18812 |
On 30/04/2025 5:09 am, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-04-29 19:48, Frank Slootweg wrote: >> Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> wrote: >>> >>> [snip] >>> >>>> And everyone knows why the Computer in "2001" was called "HAL" don't >>>> they?? ;-) >>> >>> IIRC, Heuristically programmed ALgorithmic computer. >> >> The urban legend is that it refers to 'IBM', shifted one letter. Don't >> know if there's any truth in that. > > Arthur C. Clarke negated that, adamantly. > Oh, you Spoil Sport, Carlos!! And, Frank, I thought the one letter shifting was to indicate HAL was (atleast) one better/before than IBM!! ;-) -- Daniel70
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-04-30 20:20 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <20250430202056.f8f1de709691e9fc291654d8@127.0.0.1> |
| In reply to | #18828 |
On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 19:24:21 +1000 Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote: > On 30/04/2025 5:09 am, Carlos E.R. wrote: > > On 2025-04-29 19:48, Frank Slootweg wrote: > >> Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> wrote: > >>> > >>> [snip] > >>> > >>>> And everyone knows why the Computer in "2001" was called "HAL" don't > >>>> they?? ;-) > >>> > >>> IIRC, Heuristically programmed ALgorithmic computer. > >> > >> The urban legend is that it refers to 'IBM', shifted one letter. Don't > >> know if there's any truth in that. > > > > Arthur C. Clarke negated that, adamantly. > > > Oh, you Spoil Sport, Carlos!! > > And, Frank, I thought the one letter shifting was to indicate HAL was > (atleast) one better/before than IBM!! ;-) As we're digging up old letter shifts: VMS->WNT -- Bah, and indeed Humbug.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-04-29 21:18 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <i8l7elxi4d.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #18735 |
On 2025-04-28 22:22, John wrote: > On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 00:16:42 +1000, Daniel70 > <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote: > >> On 27/04/2025 8:36 pm, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote: >>> On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 22:28:27 +0200 >>> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>>> On 2025-04-26 21:24, Mark Lloyd wrote: >>>>> On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 22:02:35 +0100, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote: >>>>> >>>>> [snip] >>>>> >>>>>> And it varies by 34 days because Easter is declared to be the first >>>>>> Sunday after a Full Moon after the Spring Equinox . But don't blame me, >>>>>> I didn't start the religion. >>>>> >>>>> The rule I heard (for Easter date) said "ecclesiastical full moon". I >>>>> don't know how that differs from the real full moon. >>>>> >>>> >>>> «An ecclesiastical full moon is formally the 14th day of the >>>> ecclesiastical lunar month (an ecclesiastical moon) in an ecclesiastical >>>> lunar calendar. The ecclesiastical lunar calendar spans the year with >>>> lunar months of 30 and 29 days which are intended to approximate the >>>> observed phases of the Moon.» >>>> >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecclesiastical_full_moon >>>> >>> Luckily it the moon cycle (mostly) reoccurs after 19 years, to give >>> an algorithm that's OK for a few thousand years. But there's drift as the >>> Moon Earth double planet system settles down. The Moon will fly off after >>> a bit, but not as dramatically as in MoonBase Alpha. >>> >> OH!!! BUT I saw it on T.V.!! It HAS to occur!! ;-P > > But didn't it occur in Space? In 1999? That was a hell of a long time > ago. Didn't she come back after a couple of years? I seem to remember > the finale being a great return of Luna into Earth orbit. Argh! Don't spoil it for me, I still have not seen it! > > There was another serial documentary which had a huge Moonbase full > of pretty girls. That one happened in 1980. > > And there was TMA-1 in 2001 or a couple of years before that. There > was at least one Moonbase then, too, as well as a human-filled ship to > Jupiter. > > We've had lots of Moonbases in the last thirty-odd years. :-) -- Cheers, Carlos.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-04-25 19:04 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <vugis6$hasb$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #18629 |
On 2025-04-23 17:45, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote: > > So The Pope's minions will have to find a new formula for Easter, RSN. I think not RSN! The timing of Easter has been a contentious issue throughout the history of the Christian Faith, and, perhaps rather ironically to modern minds, unintentionally gave rise to modern science in the Enlightenment. Prof Simon Schaffer, in the first episode "Let There Be Light" of the BBC Series "Light Fantastic", beginning 29:47 mins in, enters the Basilica Santa Maria degli Angeli e dei Martiri in Rome, where he demonstrates how a hole in the wall of the church allows light to fall on a brass strip in the floor, that was used to determine the timing of the seasons, and thus allow the correct calculation of Easter. AFAICR, the series was shown nearly 20 years ago so is unlikely ever to be available even to UK citizens via iPlayer unless the BBC "in their infinite wisdom" decide to repeat it. However, that actual clip is available to all, though sadly in atrocious quality, in YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVTdfVWp5Rk -- Fake news kills! I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website: www.macfh.co.uk
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-04-25 23:33 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <plbtdlxrcn.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #18665 |
On 2025-04-25 20:04, Java Jive wrote: > On 2025-04-23 17:45, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote: >> >> So The Pope's minions will have to find a new formula for Easter, RSN. > > I think not RSN! > > The timing of Easter has been a contentious issue throughout the history > of the Christian Faith, and, perhaps rather ironically to modern minds, > unintentionally gave rise to modern science in the Enlightenment. Prof > Simon Schaffer, in the first episode "Let There Be Light" of the BBC > Series "Light Fantastic", beginning 29:47 mins in, enters the Basilica > Santa Maria degli Angeli e dei Martiri in Rome, where he demonstrates > how a hole in the wall of the church allows light to fall on a brass > strip in the floor, that was used to determine the timing of the > seasons, and thus allow the correct calculation of Easter. > > AFAICR, the series was shown nearly 20 years ago so is unlikely ever to > be available even to UK citizens via iPlayer unless the BBC "in their > infinite wisdom" decide to repeat it. However, that actual clip is > available to all, though sadly in atrocious quality, in YouTube: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVTdfVWp5Rk Indeed, the quality is atrocious. The sound is fine, though. -- Cheers, Carlos.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-04-26 20:04 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <vuib2t$257c0$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #18665 |
On 26/04/2025 4:04 am, Java Jive wrote: > On 2025-04-23 17:45, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote: >> >> So The Pope's minions will have to find a new formula for Easter, RSN. > > I think not RSN! > > The timing of Easter has been a contentious issue throughout the history > of the Christian Faith, and, perhaps rather ironically to modern minds, > unintentionally gave rise to modern science in the Enlightenment. Prof > Simon Schaffer, in the first episode "Let There Be Light" of the BBC > Series "Light Fantastic", beginning 29:47 mins in, enters the Basilica > Santa Maria degli Angeli e dei Martiri in Rome, where he demonstrates > how a hole in the wall of the church allows light to fall on a brass > strip in the floor, that was used to determine the timing of the > seasons, and thus allow the correct calculation of Easter. In a related (but unrelated) aspect, yesterday (April 25th) was A.N.Z.A.C. Day in Australia and New Zealand celebrating a famous failure turned Victory in WWI (1915). In Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, the commemorative A.N.Z.A.C. Day March ends at The Shrine of Remembrance ... https://www.google.com/maps/@-37.8264985,144.9652694,15z?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDQyMy4wIKXMDSoJLDEwMjExNDUzSAFQAw%3D%3D where there is an aperture through the Roof/Celling which, at 11:00 on 11th Nov, a beam of light shines on an engraving .... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shrine_of_Remembrance Quote The sanctuary contains the marble Stone of Remembrance, upon which is engraved the words "Greater love hath no man" (John 15:13); once per year, on 11 November at 11 a.m. (Remembrance Day), a ray of sunlight shines through an aperture in the roof to light up the word "Love" in the inscription End Quote -- Daniel70
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-04-26 21:05 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <vuiemp$28fdr$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #18699 |
On 26/04/2025 8:04 pm, Daniel70 wrote: > On 26/04/2025 4:04 am, Java Jive wrote: >> On 2025-04-23 17:45, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote: >>> >>> So The Pope's minions will have to find a new formula for Easter, RSN. >> >> I think not RSN! >> >> The timing of Easter has been a contentious issue throughout the >> history of the Christian Faith, and, perhaps rather ironically to >> modern minds, unintentionally gave rise to modern science in the >> Enlightenment. Prof Simon Schaffer, in the first episode "Let There >> Be Light" of the BBC Series "Light Fantastic", beginning 29:47 mins >> in, enters the Basilica Santa Maria degli Angeli e dei Martiri in >> Rome, where he demonstrates how a hole in the wall of the church >> allows light to fall on a brass strip in the floor, that was used to >> determine the timing of the seasons, and thus allow the correct >> calculation of Easter. > > In a related (but unrelated) aspect, yesterday (April 25th) was > A.N.Z.A.C. Day in Australia and New Zealand celebrating a famous failure > turned Victory in WWI (1915). > > In Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, the commemorative A.N.Z.A.C. Day > March ends at The Shrine of Remembrance ... > > https://www.google.com/maps/@-37.8264985,144.9652694,15z?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDQyMy4wIKXMDSoJLDEwMjExNDUzSAFQAw%3D%3D > > > where there is an aperture through the Roof/Celling which, at 11:00 on > 11th Nov, a beam of light shines on an engraving .... (As 'we' are in 'Daylight Savings' from Oct to Apr, now-a-days, some jiggery-pockery has to be carried out to make the Light-beam be in the right place at the right time!! ;-) ) > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shrine_of_Remembrance > > Quote > The sanctuary contains the marble Stone of Remembrance, upon which is > engraved the words "Greater love hath no man" (John 15:13); once per > year, on 11 November at 11 a.m. (Remembrance Day), a ray of sunlight > shines through an aperture in the roof to light up the word "Love" in > the inscription > End Quote -- Daniel70
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-04-23 19:26 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <vuabnl$2nlkk$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #18604 |
On 23/04/2025 6:52 am, micky wrote: > In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Tue, 22 Apr 2025 20:15:04 +1000, Daniel70 > <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote: >> On 21/04/2025 6:55 am, micky wrote: >>> In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Sun, 20 Apr 2025 20:23:46 +0200, "Carlos >>> E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>> isible with a filter. >>>> >>>> The gyroscopic effect when removing one from a test cady is very >>>> noticeable. Surprised me. >>> >>> I've thought about this. With all the harddrives spinning all over the >>> world, and the difficulty of changing their orientation, because of the >>> gyroscopic effect, isn't that going to interfere with the rotation of >>> the earth. And that will make days longer, and thus years will also be >>> longer. >>> >> Ah!! Is that why, now-a-days, things seem to have shorter lives .... the > > Yes, especially appliances. > >> Days and Years are actually getting longer?? ;-P > > Yes, exactly. So I'm not the only one who has noticed this. I think > there were also articles in Scientific American and National Geographic > that confirm this. > I seem to recall, in 1980 or so, the term "Planned Obsolescence" came into existence. Everything has a limited lifetime .... even cars!! -- Daniel70
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Sam E <no.email@here.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-04-22 23:00 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <68081f81$0$21$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> |
| In reply to | #18593 |
On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 20:15:04 +1000, Daniel70 wrote: [snip] > Ah!! Is that why, now-a-days, things seem to have shorter lives .... the > Days and Years are actually getting longer?? ;-P IIRC longer days/years means Earth's orbit is becoming slower, which means farther from the sun. I do remember hearing of something called "global dimming". -- "It is by the fortune of God that, in this country, we have three benefits: freedom of speech, freedom of thought, and the wisdom never to use either." [Mark Twain]
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
Page 2 of 5 — ← Prev page 1 [2] 3 4 5 Next page →
Back to top | Article view | alt.comp.os.windows-11
csiph-web