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  The "Coming" of Windows Shite #12 Carl@NoGoogling.com - 2025-04-29 19:14 -0500
    Re: The "Coming" of Windows Shite #12 D <J@M> - 2025-04-30 04:12 +0200
      Re: The "Coming" of Windows Shite #12 Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-30 09:26 -0400
    Re: The "Coming" of Windows Shite #12 Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-30 08:12 -0400

#18821 — The "Coming" of Windows Shite #12

https://www.theregister.com/2025/04/28/windows_opinion/?td=rt-3a

Windows isn't an OS, it's a bad habit that wants to become an addiction

partial:
"It gets worse. For almost all of the existing user base, Windows 10 is
perfectly fine, so Windows 11 has to be forced down their gullets at
gunpoint. You cannot have a fifth of humanity pinned like a moth
collection to your desktop and not monetize them. This has led, as Dave
Plummer notes, to an OS that's both tool and adversary, one that gives
you AI whether you like it or not, and one that advertises and prods and
pulls you toward paid services whether you like it or not. There is
change for change's sake, and not for small change either.

This will not get better. Microsoft is unsure of or unable to
communicate what's coming. Project Hudson Valley, initially talked of as
Window 12 with a 2025 launch, faded away as Hudson Valley became the
AI-laden Uncanny Valley of Win 11 24H2. The marketing power of a new
major version doesn't work if it's an amplification of a previous
failure, but all that can mean is more bad AI you can't turn off, more
monetization tweaks, more attempts to kill the older version. There may
even be a push to a subscription licensing model."

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#18824

On Tue, 29 Apr 2025 19:14:11 -0500, Carl@NoGoogling.com wrote:
>https://www.theregister.com/2025/04/28/windows_opinion/?td=rt-3a
>Windows isn't an OS, it's a bad habit that wants to become an addiction
>
>partial:
>"It gets worse. For almost all of the existing user base, Windows 10 is
>perfectly fine, so Windows 11 has to be forced down their gullets at
>gunpoint. You cannot have a fifth of humanity pinned like a moth
>collection to your desktop and not monetize them. This has led, as Dave
>Plummer notes, to an OS that's both tool and adversary, one that gives
>you AI whether you like it or not, and one that advertises and prods and
>pulls you toward paid services whether you like it or not. There is
>change for change's sake, and not for small change either.
>
>This will not get better. Microsoft is unsure of or unable to
>communicate what's coming. Project Hudson Valley, initially talked of as
>Window 12 with a 2025 launch, faded away as Hudson Valley became the
>AI-laden Uncanny Valley of Win 11 24H2. The marketing power of a new
>major version doesn't work if it's an amplification of a previous
>failure, but all that can mean is more bad AI you can't turn off, more
>monetization tweaks, more attempts to kill the older version. There may
>even be a push to a subscription licensing model."

increasing global dominance of mobile devices and wireless coverage
is antiquating not only desktop computing, but also its aging users
sputtering out along with the dinosaur corporations that made these
technologies available to begin with . . . a.i. could supersede the
dunsel population with superconscious empire, transcending humanity

meanwhile, windows 11 24h2 is still operational, but how long until
artificial intelligence really does take over and utterly wipes out
all traces of human existence, fossil records, great pyramids, dust

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#18835

On 4/29/2025 10:12 PM, D wrote:

> increasing global dominance of mobile devices and wireless coverage
> is antiquating not only desktop computing, but also its aging users
> sputtering out along with the dinosaur corporations that made these
> technologies available to begin with . . . a.i. could supersede the
> dunsel population with superconscious empire, transcending humanity
> 
> meanwhile, windows 11 24h2 is still operational, but how long until
> artificial intelligence really does take over and utterly wipes out
> all traces of human existence, fossil records, great pyramids, dust
> 

    I suspect there will be further separation between production
and consumption, typically referred to as business vs consumer
computing. If most of what you do can be done on a cellphone
then you don't need a computer.

    That's not a big change to computing. It's Microsoft, like
Apple before them, adapting their business. If you're accepting
Copilot on your Windows computer, or living by cellphone, then
you're one of the people telling Microsoft that they're headed in
the right direction. If you're using apps to order delivery of your
Starbucks whipped cream kiddie coffee, or shopping at Amazon,
then Microsoft are simply trying to become a middleman for
your consumeristic lifestyle.

   It's not some kind evil AI army; some kind of heroic Terminator
resistance. (The Terminator resistance didn't listen to Spotify
or bank online.)

   I just came across a news story:

https://techstartups.com/2025/04/29/mastercard-wants-ai-bots-to-handle-your-online-shopping-heres-what-that-could-mean/

    Mastercard is partnering with MS to let AI handle your shopping.
You'll be able to just tell Copilot what you want and it will be
able to process the payment, as well as finding the item. So...
Copilot gets your charge card number(s), address, phone,
shopping history, etc, while MS get a kickback from MC. Pretty smart
on the part of MS. Lazy consumers who can't be bothered to get up
off their ass will be catered to. That's an inexhaustible market. MS
could even partner with Amazon, retailers, etc. If they do it well
enough then they might get people to put an MS "manage your life"
app on their cellphones, taking over Google's and Apple's territory.

Of course, it might be nice to see Microsoft have some kind of
vision higher than the gutter of greed. But that's not going to
happen. The tech world has never been known for highbrow
visionaries. The only visionaries are the tech genius types, figuring
out how to get Grand Theft Auto onto Linux.

   I currently have multiple Win10 and Win11 computers. I block
Microsoft from both. I've tweaked both to be like more efficient
versions of XP. No Metro. No Copilot. No apps. No MS Store. No
Edge. No services. No cloud. No rental software.

   Once cleaned up, both systems are mostly the same thing.
And the system files are mostly or all the same set. Win11 is a
way to drop support to older computers while helping hardware
partners sell more product. It's also a handy way for Microsoft
to establish a new normal by pretending that this is a new product.
If you go along with their plan then it's your own fault, not the
evil doings of Skynet.

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#18833

On Tue, 4/29/2025 8:14 PM, Carl@NoGoogling.com wrote:
> https://www.theregister.com/2025/04/28/windows_opinion/
> 
> Windows ...
> perfectly fine ...
> 

OK, got it.

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