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| From | Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.comp.software.thunderbird, alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.comp.os.windows-11 |
| Subject | Re: ThunderMail is coming soon |
| Date | 2025-04-23 11:31 +0100 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <vuafid$2td0i$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | (3 earlier) <m6nbgeF3dqsU1@mid.individual.net> <vu7ppj$bpdo$2@dont-email.me> <628uid68h3pn.dlg@v.nguard.lh> <vu89n2$pk6c$1@dont-email.me> <mal2pdx1v6gy.dlg@v.nguard.lh> |
Cross-posted to 3 groups.
On 2025-04-23 06:27, VanguardLH wrote: > > Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote: >> >> VanguardLH wrote: >> >>> GDPR ruined DNS lookups by requiring redaction of registrants. Trying >>> to get contact info on a domain registrant to alert them to a problem >>> with their web site becomes much more difficult. Yeah, they want to >>> provide a publicly accessible web site, but the registrant wants to >>> hide. Thanks GDPR ... not! >> >> Can't say that I've noticed any such problem - I just use Whois - >> so I suspect that this is just another example of someone from the >> other side of the pond having an uninformed opinion against the EU >> and its legislation. > > I meant domain lookups, not DNS lookups. When did you last do a WhoIs > lookup on a domain? Many times since GDPR was adopted by the EU. As for the gist of your argument, which I've snipped as it was unnecessarily long-winded, as far as I could tell it from skimming through it ... If you need to complain about a domain's behaviour, spamming or whatever, if you don't get any joy from the contacts given out by the website itself or the generally accepted default contacts, usually it is sufficient to complain next to the Registrant; if the problem behaviour persists, they can, and in my experience will, threaten to refuse to handle the domain. For example, there was a domain that held both incorrect information and personally identifying information about my family's descent from a younger son of a Chief of Clan Macfarlane, so I wrote to the domain's contact address given on the site, both correcting the wrong information and demanding the removal of personally identifying information of living people and their parents. Initially, the owner refused the latter, worse still, he bolshed about it, claiming that I was curtailing his freedoms, blah, blah. So I complained to the Registrant about his behaviour, and the personally identifying information was duly removed. As for wishing to complain about the actual functionality of a website, any reputable business will be at least somewhat interested if their website is causing their customers or users difficulties, after all it's the modern equivalent of their retail premises or shop window. If their site is causing sufficient problems to sufficient numbers of people, they'd be foolish to ignore the problem, as it will likely adversely affect their business bottom line. For example, I have written before here or hereabouts about why I ditched Three in the UK as my mobile supplier, partly because their site and management of personal data behind it were so appallingly programmed. More generally, often you don't need to know the actual site ownership details to work out what you need to know about a it. For example, during the covid pandemic, a great many fake and pseudo science sites sprung up concerning it, all you needed to know in that situation was that the sites having questionable information were created at or around the outbreak, so weren't likely to be reliable purveyors of reliable medical information from a reliable source. Similarly with other forms of scientific denialism. -- Fake news kills! I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website: www.macfh.co.uk
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