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Re: using the shared folders on the lan

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On Fri, 4/18/2025 9:37 AM, knuttle wrote:
> I have been using folders that are shared on the LAN by several computers for years on Windows 10 computers.
> 
> Now I have upgraded to a new computer with Windows 11 Home.
> 
> Now when ever I try to map a network drive I get the message "Windows Can not access \\Laptop  (Laptop is the name of the other computer on the LAN.)
> 
> I have worked on this for a couple of days and can not find why all incoming and outgoing activity to LAN devices is blocked.
> 
> What am I missing?

Be aware, that the nameserver behavior and the Browse Master,
to this day are still flaky. I did an experiment here (just for you),
using three computers, to see how well a "non-domain" configuration
works, and my results were not-good. I tested from a W11 computer,
to a mix of W10 and W11 machines.

But as long as you use the built-in "ipconfig" on each computer,
and you use    \\192.168.1.3\shared
instead of     \\wallace\shared
it should work then.

Those strings are what you type in the File Explorer address bar.

Don't be discouraged, by opening File Explorer and not seeing
the icon for the share server. You can still make a connection,
using the number, despite what the icon situation looks like.

The IP address method of finding another machine,
should work for you, as long as the workgroup
setting is the same on all the "pseudo-domain" home machines.

I can use "nbtscan", to ask each potential address to respond.
Kinda like a ping.

   nbtscan 192.168.100.0/24        # Scans 256 addresses, looking for shares

and then you can have a list of ip address, without knowing
"which one is Wallace". But for your purposes, using the
built-in "ipconfig" command and discovering the IP address
of the various machines, would also give the same info if you
needed an IP address to reach a share you created on it.

We do that for Linux, where the record on the icon situation
is not all that good either.

   explorer \\wallace\shared
   explorer \\192.168.1.3\shared   # Works on Windows, when the other format logically does not work

   nemo smb://wallace/shared
   nemo smb://192.168.1.3/shared   # Works on Linux,   when the other format logically does not work

If you really want the icons to show up, you can try
starting your LAN with just the router powered. Then
boot up the Win7 machine and wait a few minutes until
the desktop settles. This will allow the win7 machine to become
the Browse Master. Then, when subsequent machines start, you
may discover that everyone has working network icons. That's
the only correlation I've seen, on the home LAN, is starting
the old OS first, might make for a better server of names.
Since this is normally too much work, to do a controlled
LAN bring-up, you can use IP address syntax instead.

  Paul

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using the shared folders on the lan knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-18 09:37 -0400
  Re: using the shared folders on the lan Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-04-18 14:49 +0100
    Re: using the shared folders on the lan knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-18 11:18 -0400
      Re: using the shared folders on the lan Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-04-18 16:40 +0100
  Re: using the shared folders on the lan Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-04-18 15:26 +0100
    Re: using the shared folders on the lan Valerio Vanni <valerio.vanni@inwind.it> - 2025-04-18 17:54 +0200
      Re: using the shared folders on the lan SOLUTION knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-19 07:16 -0400
        Re: using the shared folders on the lan SOLUTION Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-04-19 14:04 +0100
          Re: using the shared folders on the lan SOLUTION knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-19 13:02 -0400
            Re: using the shared folders on the lan SOLUTION MikeS <mikes@is.invalid> - 2025-04-19 19:11 +0100
  Re: using the shared folders on the lan Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-18 22:26 -0400
    Re: using the shared folders on the lan Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-04-22 20:34 -0500
  Re: using the shared folders on the lan Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-19 11:34 +0000

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