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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.comp.os.windows-11, comp.os.linux.advocacy |
| Subject | Re: Microsoft admits that Windows is short-term support in realistic terms |
| Date | 2025-02-21 21:33 +0000 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <vparfa$3ija9$3@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
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On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 13:11:54 -0500, Paul wrote: > On Thu, 2/20/2025 8:29 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> >> Why does Windows need to reboot about 5 times during an install? >> Because nobody at Microsoft knows to reliably shut down and restart >> their own services, so it’s easier just to reboot everything. >> > ... > > 2) SafeOS phase: ...computer is booted into Windows PE during the > SafeOS phase > Now the computer has a known good OS, to > continue the installation process Here’s something else that wasn’t mentioned: on Windows, the running processes keep open files locked, so they cannot be upgraded. Switching to a minimal boot kernel isn’t so much about being “known good” as it is about avoiding locks on files that need to be upgraded. > The logfiles go in a different place now. Why? So that locks on files in that “different place” don’t matter for upgrading the regular OS. > and somewhere in there, is the "Migration phase", where programs are > reinstalled one by one. Wonder why this is even necessary. A Linux distro can upgrade itself in- place, without touching third-party stuff in /usr/local or /opt.
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Re: Microsoft admits that Windows is short-term support in realistic terms Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-20 09:00 -0500
Re: Microsoft admits that Windows is short-term support in realistic terms Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2025-02-20 17:29 +0300
Re: Microsoft admits that Windows is short-term support in realistic terms Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-20 12:27 -0500
Re: Microsoft admits that Windows is short-term support in realistic terms rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-20 19:50 +0000
Re: Microsoft admits that Windows is short-term support in realistic terms Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-20 21:22 +0000
Re: Microsoft admits that Windows is short-term support in realistic terms Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-21 10:53 -0500
Re: Microsoft admits that Windows is short-term support in realistic terms "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-02-21 18:10 +0000
Re: Microsoft admits that Windows is short-term support in realistic terms Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-21 19:24 -0500
Re: Microsoft admits that Windows is short-term support in realistic terms "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-02-26 20:29 +0000
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Re: Microsoft admits that Windows is short-term support in realistic terms Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2025-02-20 15:38 +0000
Re: Microsoft admits that Windows is short-term support in realistic terms Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-20 11:23 -0500
Re: Microsoft admits that Windows is short-term support in realistic terms rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-16 20:10 +0000
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