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Re: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher

From	Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam>
Newsgroups	alt.comp.os.windows-11, alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject	Re: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher
Date	2025-02-11 22:42 -0500
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
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On 2/11/2025 9:20 PM, Paul wrote:
> On Tue, 2/11/2025 3:59 PM, Newyana2 wrote:
>> On 2/11/2025 3:20 PM, Mark Lloyd wrote:
>>> On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 00:47:05 -0500, micky wrote:
>>>
>>> [snip]
>>>   
>>>> 2)  I've considered reverting to win10, but will I be forced into win11
>>>> within a year or so anyhow?  Is reverting a bad idea?
>>>
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>> You might. They did it to Win 7 & 8 users. However, there's a program
>>> that's supposed to block forced upgrades.
>>> https://www.grc.com/incontrol.htm
>>>
>>
>>    As someone pointed out, that might possibly be a way to get security
>> updates without version update. I'm not sure. For anyone who intends
>> to stay with 10, if it were me I'd install Simplewall and plan to install
>> Windows Update Blocker after the last security update. The GRC hack will
>> hopefully work until Oct, but after that, the other two are a better way
>> to just keep MS out of your business altogether.
> 
> The GRC program is not exactly a hack. There are four registry locations
> with the version controls in them. Before I got the GRC thing, I was
> using three of the registry locations already, to do that manually.
> (Which means I'd found a recipe somewhere, for how to limit the Upgrade
> activity, while leaving Windows Update running -- if you stay on one
> release long enough, you lose support for Security Updates and it is
> roughly like End-Of-Life for you).
> 
> A typical usage for me, is to lock a Windows 10 install to 22H2 (the very
> last release), so that no auto-upgrader can come along and take a 10 to 11.
> I do this, because the machine will already have an 11 on board, and there
> is no need to steamroll my 10 and make an 11 out of it. A lot of the
> disks here, have ended up with a 10 and an 11 in the fullness of time.
> The 11 may be installed by Rufus (for the 11 year old Test Machine for example).
> 
> What the GRC buys you, is an easy interface to set the Registry entries,
> including the one additional location the GRC author found. No DLLs are hacked.
> No code is injected.

    I understand. I used the word hack in a general sense --
a hack in the sense of a workaround. So I was just saying
that anyone who wants security updates for the next six
months can try that. But if it were me, I'd keep disk images
just in case and add Simplewall and WUB in Oct. There's no
reason that MS can't break that hack... or rather, setting. :)

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Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-11 00:47 -0500
  Re: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-11 03:05 -0500
  Re: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-11 08:09 -0500
  Re: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-02-11 20:20 +0000
    Re: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-11 15:59 -0500
      Re: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-11 21:20 -0500
        Re: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-11 22:42 -0500
          Re: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-12 00:28 -0500
            Re: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-12 08:15 -0500
              Re: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-12 20:42 -0500
                Re: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-13 02:57 -0500
                Re: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-13 03:50 -0500
          Re: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher Ehud Omar <invalid@invalid.com> - 2025-02-12 05:34 +0000
            Re: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-12 08:11 -0500
      Re: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-12 12:05 -0500
  From BAD to WORSE   Was: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-12 23:23 -0500
    Re: From BAD to WORSE   Was: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-12 23:26 -0500
      Re: From BAD to WORSE Was: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher Uncle Sam <uncle.sam@usa.com> - 2025-02-13 04:45 +0000
        Re: From BAD to WORSE Was: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-13 00:05 -0500
      Re: From BAD to WORSE Was: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-13 00:30 -0500
        Re: From BAD to WORSE Was: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-13 02:06 -0500
          Re: From BAD to WORSE Was: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-13 02:54 -0500
            Re: From BAD to WORSE Was: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-13 04:11 -0500
              Re: From BAD to WORSE Was: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-13 08:02 -0500
                Re: From BAD to WORSE Was: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher wasbit <wasbit@nowhere.com> - 2025-02-14 09:49 +0000
                Re: From BAD to WORSE Was: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-14 09:12 -0500
                Re: From BAD to WORSE Was: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher "Allan Higdon" <allanh@vivaldi.net> - 2025-02-14 08:38 -0600
                Re: From BAD to WORSE Was: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-14 19:40 -0500
                Re: From BAD to WORSE Was: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-15 02:58 -0500
                Re: From BAD to WORSE Was: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-15 02:38 -0500
                Re: From BAD to WORSE Was: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-15 08:59 -0500
                Re: From BAD to WORSE Was: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-16 19:53 +1100
                Re: From BAD to WORSE Was: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-16 10:48 -0500
                Re: From BAD to WORSE Was: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-17 06:57 -0500
                Re: From BAD to WORSE Was: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-17 08:43 -0500
                Re: From BAD to WORSE Was: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-18 15:21 -0500
                Re: From BAD to WORSE Was: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-18 16:58 -0500
                Re: From BAD to WORSE Was: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-19 04:53 -0500
                Re: From BAD to WORSE Was: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-19 07:17 -0500
                Re: From BAD to WORSE Was: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-20 19:03 +1100
                Re: From BAD to WORSE Was: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-21 22:48 -0500
                Re: From BAD to WORSE Was: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-24 22:13 +1100
                Re: From BAD to WORSE Was: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-19 13:27 +0100
                Re: From BAD to WORSE Was: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-21 10:22 -0500
                Re: From BAD to WORSE Was: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-21 12:35 -0500
                Re: From BAD to WORSE Was: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-21 15:13 -0500
                Re: From BAD to WORSE Was: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-21 16:39 -0500
                Re: From BAD to WORSE Was: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-21 21:27 -0500
                Re: From BAD to WORSE Was: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-21 22:23 -0500
                Re: From BAD to WORSE Was: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher wasbit <wasbit@nowhere.com> - 2025-02-15 09:38 +0000
              Re: From BAD to WORSE Was: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-19 11:22 +0100
                Re: From BAD to WORSE Was: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-19 11:01 +0000
    Re: From BAD to WORSE Was: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-13 07:49 -0500
      Re: From BAD to WORSE Was: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-13 08:30 -0500
        Re: From BAD to WORSE Was: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-13 12:53 -0500
          Re: From BAD to WORSE Was: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-19 13:30 +0100
            Re: From BAD to WORSE Was: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-19 20:12 +0100
              Re: From BAD to WORSE Was: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-20 23:06 -0500
      Re: From BAD to WORSE Was: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-13 09:29 -0500
        Re: From BAD to WORSE Was: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-13 12:05 -0500
          Re: From BAD to WORSE Was: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-13 13:12 -0500
        Re: From BAD to WORSE Was: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-13 14:56 -0500
          Re: From BAD to WORSE Was: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-13 17:07 -0500
  Re: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-16 00:06 -0500
    Re: Ongoing trouble using ExplorerPatcher Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-16 10:38 -0500

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