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| Started by | Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> |
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| First post | 2020-08-11 11:53 -0500 |
| Last post | 2020-08-27 06:01 +0000 |
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Chromium Edge Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2020-08-11 11:53 -0500
Re: Chromium Edge KenW <ken1943@invalid.net> - 2020-08-11 11:01 -0600
Re: Chromium Edge Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2020-08-11 10:34 -0700
Re: Chromium Edge nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-11 14:47 -0400
Re: Chromium Edge Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2020-08-11 20:54 -0500
Re: Chromium Edge Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> - 2020-08-12 12:09 +0100
Re: Chromium Edge VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2020-08-11 13:21 -0500
Re: Chromium Edge Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2020-08-11 21:57 +0000
Re: Chromium Edge Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2020-08-12 08:08 -0700
Re: Chromium Edge Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2020-08-22 10:37 +0000
Re: Chromium Edge Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2020-08-11 20:58 -0500
Re: Chromium Edge Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2020-08-11 18:04 -0400
Re: Chromium Edge mechanic <mechanic@example.net> - 2020-08-12 13:00 +0100
Re: Chromium Edge Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2020-08-12 08:54 -0400
Re: Chromium Edge Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2020-08-12 08:14 -0700
Re: Chromium Edge occam <occam@invalid.nix> - 2020-08-13 09:57 +0200
Re: Chromium Edge mechanic <mechanic@example.net> - 2020-08-12 12:53 +0100
Re: Chromium Edge occam <occam@invalid.nix> - 2020-08-13 10:00 +0200
Re: Chromium Edge mechanic <mechanic@example.net> - 2020-08-13 10:29 +0100
Re: Chromium Edge "SC Tom" <sc@tom.net> - 2020-08-13 07:14 -0400
Re: Chromium Edge Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2020-08-13 07:45 -0700
Re: Chromium Edge mechanic <mechanic@example.net> - 2020-08-13 18:21 +0100
Re: Chromium Edge Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2020-08-13 11:18 -0700
Re: Chromium Edge kelown <kelown@privacy.invalid> - 2020-08-14 07:53 -0500
Re: Chromium Edge Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2020-08-14 08:06 -0700
Re: Chromium Edge Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2020-08-27 06:01 +0000
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| From | Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> |
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| Date | 2020-08-11 11:53 -0500 |
| Subject | Chromium Edge |
| Message-ID | <%1AYG.72596$hc5.30744@fx28.iad> |
I noticed that today's Win10 update replaced MS Edge with Chromium Edge. They took a long time to do that. -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ "It has been discovered that the man who was lost in thought was not a church member." [Lemuel K. Washburn, _Is The Bible Worth Reading And Other Essays_]
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| From | KenW <ken1943@invalid.net> |
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| Date | 2020-08-11 11:01 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <2lj5jftbfe6f1ajj4qoig11363rfolf4m5@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #119484 |
On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 11:53:15 -0500, Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> wrote: >I noticed that today's Win10 update replaced MS Edge with Chromium Edge. >They took a long time to do that. You were just late to the garbage ! Bing is still default and haven't been able to change home page, yet. KenW
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| From | Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-08-11 10:34 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <hpg34lFcuabU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #119484 |
On 8/11/2020 9:53 AM, Mark Lloyd wrote: > I noticed that today's Win10 update replaced MS Edge with Chromium Edge. > They took a long time to do that. It doesn't matter to me. As far as I'm concerned, it's just as bad as the old Edge, and I never use it unless some site doesn't work in FireFox. -- Ken
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2020-08-11 14:47 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <110820201447382807%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #119493 |
In article <hpg34lFcuabU1@mid.individual.net>, Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> wrote: > > > I noticed that today's Win10 update replaced MS Edge with Chromium Edge. > > They took a long time to do that. > > > It doesn't matter to me. As far as I'm concerned, it's just as bad as > the old Edge, and I never use it unless some site doesn't work in FireFox. it's chrome, without any of the google tracking bits.
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| From | Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> |
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| Date | 2020-08-11 20:54 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <oZHYG.82861$355.76777@fx27.iad> |
| In reply to | #119493 |
On 8/11/20 12:34 PM, Ken Blake wrote: > On 8/11/2020 9:53 AM, Mark Lloyd wrote: > >> I noticed that today's Win10 update replaced MS Edge with Chromium Edge. >> They took a long time to do that. > > > It doesn't matter to me. As far as I'm concerned, it's just as bad as > the old Edge, and I never use it unless some site doesn't work in FireFox. I almost always use Firefox. If that doesn't work, I try Chromium (opera used to be good, now it's not much more than an old version of Chromium). I almost never use Edg, just noticing what happened. -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ "It has been discovered that the man who was lost in thought was not a church member." [Lemuel K. Washburn, _Is The Bible Worth Reading And Other Essays_]
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| From | Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2020-08-12 12:09 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <145m1hbgb634x$.jbgwc1wzhext.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #119539 |
On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 20:54:28 -0500, Mark Lloyd wrote: > On 8/11/20 12:34 PM, Ken Blake wrote: >> On 8/11/2020 9:53 AM, Mark Lloyd wrote: >> >>> I noticed that today's Win10 update replaced MS Edge with Chromium Edge. >>> They took a long time to do that. >> >> >> It doesn't matter to me. As far as I'm concerned, it's just as bad as >> the old Edge, and I never use it unless some site doesn't work in FireFox. > > I almost always use Firefox. If that doesn't work, I try Chromium (opera > used to be good, now it's not much more than an old version of > Chromium). I almost never use Edg, just noticing what happened. Jack Sprat etc I have no problem with Chrome Edge. It is quite fast on my desktop, but I use Firefox as it has the ability to open tabs with left-click-only. So Edge is my 'other' browser. On the other hand Edge is my default browser on my android phone mainly because of its GUI. AND I prefer Bing as my searcher (and home page) -- Jim S
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| From | VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> |
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| Date | 2020-08-11 13:21 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <1m646si3yw51o.dlg@v.nguard.lh> |
| In reply to | #119484 |
Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> wrote: > I noticed that today's Win10 update replaced MS Edge with Chromium Edge. > They took a long time to do that. You could've downloaded it yourself to install the Chromium-based Edge. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/edge According to web.archive.org, Microsoft has offered the "new" Edge since mid-January 2020. Of course, you could install Google's Chrome. I've had it for awhile as my secondary web browser. Firefox is my primary web browser.
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| From | Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> |
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| Date | 2020-08-11 21:57 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <rgv47f$o88$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #119503 |
On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 13:21:39 -0500, VanguardLH wrote: > Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> wrote: > >> I noticed that today's Win10 update replaced MS Edge with Chromium Edge. >> They took a long time to do that. > > You could've downloaded it yourself to install the Chromium-based Edge. > > https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/edge > > According to web.archive.org, Microsoft has offered the "new" Edge since > mid-January 2020. > > Of course, you could install Google's Chrome. I've had it for awhile as > my secondary web browser. Firefox is my primary web browser. You can install all three Microsoft browsers side by side simultaneously: <https://i.postimg.cc/PrcV1pXF/browser06.jpg> o Tutorial to set up 3 Microsoft web browsers (Edge UWB, new Edge, & Internet Explorer) to work concurrently coexisting peacefully even after subsequent Windows Updates <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.comp.microsoft.windows/hUAf1lnum3E> And why bother with Google Chrome, IMHO, when SRWare Iron (and likely others) exist which are the same (AFAIK) but without the spyware (AFAIK)? o Do we have (yet) an actionable list of all free Windows & Linux web browsers (and their main purpose)? <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.comp.freeware/krNaXA-YEbw> -- The advantage of Usenet occurs when intelligent people post new ideas.
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| From | Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-08-12 08:08 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <hpif02Fs0ttU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #119517 |
On 8/11/2020 2:57 PM, Arlen Holder wrote: > > And why bother with Google Chrome, IMHO, when SRWare Iron (and likely > others) exist which are the same (AFAIK) but without the spyware (AFAIK)? > o Do we have (yet) an actionable list of all free Windows & Linux > web browsers (and their main purpose)? > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.comp.freeware/krNaXA-YEbw> Changed your nym again? If anyone here doesn't know it, that's standard practice of trolls, to escape from people's killfiles. But it doesn't bother me. I can, and do, add the new nym to my killfile faster than he can change it. -- Ken
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| From | Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> |
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| Date | 2020-08-22 10:37 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <rhqsi3$e3v$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #119582 |
On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 08:08:50 -0700, Ken Blake wrote: > Changed your nym again? If anyone here doesn't know it, that's standard > practice of trolls, to escape from people's killfiles. Hi Ken Blake, Did you notice I ignore you when you don't infest the threads I author? o It's when you infest threads that I care about that I respond to you. I care that people can run all three Microsoft browsers (if they want). o <https://i.postimg.cc/PrcV1pXF/browser06.jpg> I wasn't gonna respond to the worthless piece of shit Ken Blake given: a) Ken Blake has _never_ once added value to this newsgroup (ever!) b) Hence, I WELCOME Ken Blake plonking me (the less he posts, the better!) and c. If Ken can't figure out my posts instantly, then he's an utter moron. d. Morons like Ken Blake can't even figure out how to write a regexp. However, I just updated the tutorial after many hours of testing, and I wanted to append it to my suggestion on this thread, where responding to Ken Blake's moronic posts with actual value further proves my main point that: o There are two types of people on Usenet - only one of which adds value. To wit, here is hours upon hours of useful research & value in one post: UPDATE: <https://i.postimg.cc/q7VC5YXV/microsoft-browsers01.jpg> o Tutorial to set up 3 Microsoft web browsers to work concurrently (Edge UWB, new Edge, & Internet Explorer) coexisting peacefully even after subsequent Windows Updates <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.comp.freeware/fZlJTYRxYFg> 1. The original tutorial assumed you already updated to the new Edge (and hence, you needed to remove it and start fresh). 2. This new tutorial starts fresh with a new build of Windows 10 (and hence, it _preserves_ the old Edge when installing the new Edge). -- Usenet is a wonderful public web-searchable repository of useful tutorials.
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| From | Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> |
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| Date | 2020-08-11 20:58 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <e1IYG.141366$hQ4.90674@fx39.iad> |
| In reply to | #119503 |
On 8/11/20 1:21 PM, VanguardLH wrote: > Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> wrote: > >> I noticed that today's Win10 update replaced MS Edge with Chromium Edge. >> They took a long time to do that. > > You could've downloaded it yourself to install the Chromium-based Edge. > > https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/edge Yes. I actually had it even earlier. IIRC, v75. > According to web.archive.org, Microsoft has offered the "new" Edge since > mid-January 2020. It's been available. This is just when it came in Win10 updates (strangely, the Win 7 systems got it earlier). > Of course, you could install Google's Chrome. I've had it for awhile as > my secondary web browser. Firefox is my primary web browser. Same here. -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ "It has been discovered that the man who was lost in thought was not a church member." [Lemuel K. Washburn, _Is The Bible Worth Reading And Other Essays_]
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| From | Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> |
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| Date | 2020-08-11 18:04 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <0001HW.24E34D8302E70D7770000131538F@news.supernews.com> |
| In reply to | #119484 |
On 11 Aug 2020, Mark Lloyd wrote (in article <%1AYG.72596$hc5.30744@fx28.iad>): > I noticed that today's Win10 update replaced MS Edge with Chromium Edge. > They took a long time to do that. not nearly long enough. I use FF and turned off everything Edge. Again.
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| From | mechanic <mechanic@example.net> |
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| Date | 2020-08-12 13:00 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <qeqrlmxaa7eg.dlg@example1357.net> |
| In reply to | #119518 |
On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 18:04:51 -0400, Wolffan wrote: > On 11 Aug 2020, Mark Lloyd wrote > (in article <%1AYG.72596$hc5.30744@fx28.iad>): > >> I noticed that today's Win10 update replaced MS Edge with Chromium Edge. >> They took a long time to do that. > > not nearly long enough. > > I use FF and turned off everything Edge. Again. Are you one of those with "Ken" somewhere in their username? Doesn't look like it - that's a handy rule for constructing a regular expression for those Usenet filters!
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| From | Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> |
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| Date | 2020-08-12 08:54 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <0001HW.24E41E090013BBB570000244F38F@news.supernews.com> |
| In reply to | #119567 |
On 12 Aug 2020, mechanic wrote (in article <qeqrlmxaa7eg.dlg@example1357.net>): > On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 18:04:51 -0400, Wolffan wrote: > > > On 11 Aug 2020, Mark Lloyd wrote > > (in article <%1AYG.72596$hc5.30744@fx28.iad>): > > > > > I noticed that today's Win10 update replaced MS Edge with Chromium Edge. > > > They took a long time to do that. > > > > not nearly long enough. > > > > I use FF and turned off everything Edge. Again. > > Are you one of those with "Ken" somewhere in their username? what on Earth are you talking about? > Doesn't > look like it - that's a handy rule for constructing a regular > expression for those Usenet filters! It’s simple: I use a variety of computers, mostly Mac, but some Windows and Linux. I use Firefox as my normal web browser on all of them. Apple doesn’t care; if I wanted to, I could even delete Safari completely without problems. Ubuntu and Mint don’t care. Microsoft cares, and tries desperately to force Edge. If I click on a web search result from the search box in the Start Menu, for example, Edge launches. So I don’t click there. I get little pop-ups and banners and crap trying to get me to switch to the ‘best browser for Windows’; I kill them. On several occasions after a major Windows update, my default browser has somehow changed to Edge; I change it back. If I could nuke Edge completely off of ny Windows systems I would. I don’t do Edge. I don’t do Chrome. Opera, Brave, and Vivaldi aren’t my browsers of choice, though at least one of them would be on my various machines.
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| From | Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-08-12 08:14 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <hpifaqFs5euU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #119572 |
On 8/12/2020 5:54 AM, Wolffan wrote: > On several occasions after a major Windows update, my default > browser has somehow changed to Edge; I change it back. If I could nuke Edge > completely off of ny Windows systems I would. I don’t do Edge. I do, but only very seldom, when some poorly-written web site isn't compatible with FireFox. > I don’t do > Chrome. Nor do I. As far as I'm concerned, Chrome is terrible--only slightly better than Edge. > Opera, Brave, and Vivaldi aren’t my browsers of choice, though at > least one of them would be on my various machines. I never use any of those--only FireFox, and as I said, very occasionally Edge. -- Ken
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| From | occam <occam@invalid.nix> |
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| Date | 2020-08-13 09:57 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <hpka31F95u2U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #119518 |
On 12/08/2020 00:04, Wolffan wrote: > On 11 Aug 2020, Mark Lloyd wrote > (in article <%1AYG.72596$hc5.30744@fx28.iad>): > >> I noticed that today's Win10 update replaced MS Edge with Chromium Edge. >> They took a long time to do that. > > not nearly long enough. Or, to paraphrase one song lyric: "If I never see it again (It'll be too soon)" > > I use FF and turned off everything Edge. Again. > Ditto
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| From | mechanic <mechanic@example.net> |
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| Date | 2020-08-12 12:53 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <zz3cd2cx404w.dlg@example1357.net> |
| In reply to | #119484 |
On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 11:53:15 -0500, Mark Lloyd wrote: > I noticed that today's Win10 update replaced MS Edge with Chromium Edge. > They took a long time to do that. Yes, same here with the change taking place last week (no option unless you knew the update number for this and only approved certain updates). Cue the blizzard of "I hate Edge although I never use it" posts from the usual suspects - oh yes, here they are! Much better user settings for fonts in the Chromium version, giving me some hassle as to what to set as Tampermonkey options - I see Stylish is offered as a chrome extension as an alternative to Tampermonkey - what do users on here prefer? As a temporary workaround I've disabled/removed Sylish etc. for the time being just relying on user settings for default offered by the system as installed. Sans-serif fonts etc. I see darker themes are popular among browser users generally - why? I find them harder to view as a long term choice.
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| From | occam <occam@invalid.nix> |
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| Date | 2020-08-13 10:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <hpka83F95u2U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #119484 |
On 11/08/2020 18:53, Mark Lloyd wrote: > I noticed that today's Win10 update replaced MS Edge with Chromium Edge. > They took a long time to do that. > Are we talking about version 84.0.522.59? My 'About Edge' does not mention Chromium at all.
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| From | mechanic <mechanic@example.net> |
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| Date | 2020-08-13 10:29 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <m6osx3s0b9ga.dlg@example1357.net> |
| In reply to | #119656 |
On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 10:00:03 +0200, occam wrote: > On 11/08/2020 18:53, Mark Lloyd wrote: >> I noticed that today's Win10 update replaced MS Edge with Chromium Edge. >> They took a long time to do that. >> > > Are we talking about version 84.0.522.59? My 'About Edge' does not > mention Chromium at all. When you get to the 'About' page - build 84.0.522.59 - there is this: "This browser is made possible by the Chromium open source project and other open source software."
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| From | "SC Tom" <sc@tom.net> |
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| Date | 2020-08-13 07:14 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <rh37au$7bd$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #119656 |
"occam" <occam@invalid.nix> wrote in message news:hpka83F95u2U2@mid.individual.net... > On 11/08/2020 18:53, Mark Lloyd wrote: >> I noticed that today's Win10 update replaced MS Edge with Chromium Edge. >> They took a long time to do that. >> > > Are we talking about version 84.0.522.59? My 'About Edge' does not > mention Chromium at all. Mine does: "Microsoft Edge is up to date. Version 84.0.522.59 (Official build) (64-bit) This browser is made possible by the Chromium open source project and other open source software." -- SC Tom
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