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Chromium Edge

Started byMark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid>
First post2020-08-11 11:53 -0500
Last post2020-08-27 06:01 +0000
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  Chromium Edge Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2020-08-11 11:53 -0500
    Re: Chromium Edge KenW                                        <ken1943@invalid.net> - 2020-08-11 11:01 -0600
    Re: Chromium Edge Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2020-08-11 10:34 -0700
      Re: Chromium Edge nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-11 14:47 -0400
      Re: Chromium Edge Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2020-08-11 20:54 -0500
        Re: Chromium Edge Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> - 2020-08-12 12:09 +0100
    Re: Chromium Edge VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2020-08-11 13:21 -0500
      Re: Chromium Edge  Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2020-08-11 21:57 +0000
        Re: Chromium Edge Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2020-08-12 08:08 -0700
          Re: Chromium Edge  Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2020-08-22 10:37 +0000
      Re: Chromium Edge Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2020-08-11 20:58 -0500
    Re: Chromium Edge Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2020-08-11 18:04 -0400
      Re: Chromium Edge mechanic <mechanic@example.net> - 2020-08-12 13:00 +0100
        Re: Chromium Edge Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2020-08-12 08:54 -0400
          Re: Chromium Edge Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2020-08-12 08:14 -0700
      Re: Chromium Edge occam <occam@invalid.nix> - 2020-08-13 09:57 +0200
    Re: Chromium Edge mechanic <mechanic@example.net> - 2020-08-12 12:53 +0100
    Re: Chromium Edge occam <occam@invalid.nix> - 2020-08-13 10:00 +0200
      Re: Chromium Edge mechanic <mechanic@example.net> - 2020-08-13 10:29 +0100
      Re: Chromium Edge "SC Tom" <sc@tom.net> - 2020-08-13 07:14 -0400
      Re: Chromium Edge Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2020-08-13 07:45 -0700
        Re: Chromium Edge mechanic <mechanic@example.net> - 2020-08-13 18:21 +0100
          Re: Chromium Edge Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2020-08-13 11:18 -0700
            Re: Chromium Edge kelown <kelown@privacy.invalid> - 2020-08-14 07:53 -0500
              Re: Chromium Edge Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2020-08-14 08:06 -0700
              Re: Chromium Edge  Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2020-08-27 06:01 +0000

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#119484 — Chromium Edge

FromMark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid>
Date2020-08-11 11:53 -0500
SubjectChromium Edge
Message-ID<%1AYG.72596$hc5.30744@fx28.iad>
I noticed that today's Win10 update replaced MS Edge with Chromium Edge. 
They took a long time to do that.

-- 
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"It has been discovered that the man who was lost in thought was not a
church member." [Lemuel K. Washburn, _Is The Bible Worth Reading And
Other Essays_]

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#119486

FromKenW <ken1943@invalid.net>
Date2020-08-11 11:01 -0600
Message-ID<2lj5jftbfe6f1ajj4qoig11363rfolf4m5@4ax.com>
In reply to#119484
On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 11:53:15 -0500, Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid>
wrote:

>I noticed that today's Win10 update replaced MS Edge with Chromium Edge. 
>They took a long time to do that.

You were just late to the garbage !  Bing is still default and haven't
been able to change home page, yet.


KenW

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#119493

FromKen Blake <ken@invalidemail.com>
Date2020-08-11 10:34 -0700
Message-ID<hpg34lFcuabU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#119484
On 8/11/2020 9:53 AM, Mark Lloyd wrote:

> I noticed that today's Win10 update replaced MS Edge with Chromium Edge.
> They took a long time to do that.


It doesn't matter to me. As far as I'm concerned, it's just as bad as 
the old Edge, and I never use it unless some site doesn't work in FireFox.



-- 
Ken

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#119506

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2020-08-11 14:47 -0400
Message-ID<110820201447382807%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#119493
In article <hpg34lFcuabU1@mid.individual.net>, Ken Blake
<ken@invalidemail.com> wrote:

> 
> > I noticed that today's Win10 update replaced MS Edge with Chromium Edge.
> > They took a long time to do that.
> 
> 
> It doesn't matter to me. As far as I'm concerned, it's just as bad as 
> the old Edge, and I never use it unless some site doesn't work in FireFox.

it's chrome, without any of the google tracking bits.

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#119539

FromMark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid>
Date2020-08-11 20:54 -0500
Message-ID<oZHYG.82861$355.76777@fx27.iad>
In reply to#119493
On 8/11/20 12:34 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
> On 8/11/2020 9:53 AM, Mark Lloyd wrote:
> 
>> I noticed that today's Win10 update replaced MS Edge with Chromium Edge.
>> They took a long time to do that.
> 
> 
> It doesn't matter to me. As far as I'm concerned, it's just as bad as 
> the old Edge, and I never use it unless some site doesn't work in FireFox.

I almost always use Firefox. If that doesn't work, I try Chromium (opera 
used to be good, now it's not much more than an old version of 
Chromium). I almost never use Edg, just noticing what happened.

-- 
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"It has been discovered that the man who was lost in thought was not a
church member." [Lemuel K. Washburn, _Is The Bible Worth Reading And
Other Essays_]

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#119563

FromJim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk>
Date2020-08-12 12:09 +0100
Message-ID<145m1hbgb634x$.jbgwc1wzhext.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#119539
On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 20:54:28 -0500, Mark Lloyd wrote:

> On 8/11/20 12:34 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
>> On 8/11/2020 9:53 AM, Mark Lloyd wrote:
>> 
>>> I noticed that today's Win10 update replaced MS Edge with Chromium Edge.
>>> They took a long time to do that.
>> 
>> 
>> It doesn't matter to me. As far as I'm concerned, it's just as bad as 
>> the old Edge, and I never use it unless some site doesn't work in FireFox.
> 
> I almost always use Firefox. If that doesn't work, I try Chromium (opera 
> used to be good, now it's not much more than an old version of 
> Chromium). I almost never use Edg, just noticing what happened.

Jack Sprat etc
I have no problem with Chrome Edge. It is quite fast on my desktop, but I
use Firefox as it has the ability to open tabs with left-click-only. So
Edge is my 'other' browser.
On the other hand Edge is my default browser on my android phone mainly
because of its GUI.
AND I prefer Bing as my searcher (and home page)
-- 
Jim S

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#119503

FromVanguardLH <V@nguard.LH>
Date2020-08-11 13:21 -0500
Message-ID<1m646si3yw51o.dlg@v.nguard.lh>
In reply to#119484
Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> wrote:

> I noticed that today's Win10 update replaced MS Edge with Chromium Edge. 
> They took a long time to do that.

You could've downloaded it yourself to install the Chromium-based Edge.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/edge

According to web.archive.org, Microsoft has offered the "new" Edge since
mid-January 2020.

Of course, you could install Google's Chrome.  I've had it for awhile as
my secondary web browser.  Firefox is my primary web browser.

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#119517

From Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com>
Date2020-08-11 21:57 +0000
Message-ID<rgv47f$o88$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#119503
On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 13:21:39 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:

> Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> I noticed that today's Win10 update replaced MS Edge with Chromium Edge. 
>> They took a long time to do that.
> 
> You could've downloaded it yourself to install the Chromium-based Edge.
> 
> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/edge
> 
> According to web.archive.org, Microsoft has offered the "new" Edge since
> mid-January 2020.
> 
> Of course, you could install Google's Chrome.  I've had it for awhile as
> my secondary web browser.  Firefox is my primary web browser.

You can install all three Microsoft browsers side by side simultaneously:
 <https://i.postimg.cc/PrcV1pXF/browser06.jpg> 

o Tutorial to set up 3 Microsoft web browsers (Edge UWB, new Edge, 
  & Internet Explorer) to work concurrently coexisting peacefully
  even after subsequent Windows Updates
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.comp.microsoft.windows/hUAf1lnum3E>

And why bother with Google Chrome, IMHO, when SRWare Iron (and likely
others) exist which are the same (AFAIK) but without the spyware (AFAIK)?
o Do we have (yet) an actionable list of all free Windows & Linux
  web browsers (and their main purpose)?
 <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.comp.freeware/krNaXA-YEbw>
-- 
The advantage of Usenet occurs when intelligent people post new ideas.

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#119582

FromKen Blake <ken@invalidemail.com>
Date2020-08-12 08:08 -0700
Message-ID<hpif02Fs0ttU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#119517
On 8/11/2020 2:57 PM, Arlen Holder wrote:

> 
> And why bother with Google Chrome, IMHO, when SRWare Iron (and likely
> others) exist which are the same (AFAIK) but without the spyware (AFAIK)?
> o Do we have (yet) an actionable list of all free Windows & Linux
>    web browsers (and their main purpose)?
>   <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.comp.freeware/krNaXA-YEbw>




Changed your nym again? If anyone here doesn't know it, that's standard 
practice of trolls, to escape from people's killfiles.

But it doesn't bother me. I can, and do, add the new nym to my killfile 
faster than he can change it.


-- 
Ken

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#120321

From Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com>
Date2020-08-22 10:37 +0000
Message-ID<rhqsi3$e3v$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#119582
On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 08:08:50 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:

> Changed your nym again? If anyone here doesn't know it, that's standard 
> practice of trolls, to escape from people's killfiles.

Hi Ken Blake,
Did you notice I ignore you when you don't infest the threads I author?
o It's when you infest threads that I care about that I respond to you.

I care that people can run all three Microsoft browsers (if they want).
o <https://i.postimg.cc/PrcV1pXF/browser06.jpg>

I wasn't gonna respond to the worthless piece of shit Ken Blake given:
a) Ken Blake has _never_ once added value to this newsgroup (ever!)
b) Hence, I WELCOME Ken Blake plonking me (the less he posts, the better!)
and
c. If Ken can't figure out my posts instantly, then he's an utter moron.
d. Morons like Ken Blake can't even figure out how to write a regexp.

However, I just updated the tutorial after many hours of testing, 
and I wanted to append it to my suggestion on this thread, where 
responding to Ken Blake's moronic posts with actual value further proves
my main point that:
o There are two types of people on Usenet - only one of which adds value.

To wit, here is hours upon hours of useful research & value in one post:

UPDATE:  <https://i.postimg.cc/q7VC5YXV/microsoft-browsers01.jpg>
o  Tutorial to set up 3 Microsoft web browsers to work concurrently 
   (Edge UWB, new Edge, & Internet Explorer) 
   coexisting peacefully even after subsequent Windows Updates
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.comp.freeware/fZlJTYRxYFg>

1. The original tutorial assumed you already updated to the new Edge
   (and hence, you needed to remove it and start fresh).

2. This new tutorial starts fresh with a new build of Windows 10
   (and hence, it _preserves_ the old Edge when installing the new Edge).
-- 
Usenet is a wonderful public web-searchable repository of useful tutorials. 

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#119540

FromMark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid>
Date2020-08-11 20:58 -0500
Message-ID<e1IYG.141366$hQ4.90674@fx39.iad>
In reply to#119503
On 8/11/20 1:21 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
> Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> I noticed that today's Win10 update replaced MS Edge with Chromium Edge.
>> They took a long time to do that.
> 
> You could've downloaded it yourself to install the Chromium-based Edge.
> 
> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/edge

Yes. I actually had it even earlier. IIRC, v75.

> According to web.archive.org, Microsoft has offered the "new" Edge since
> mid-January 2020.

It's been available. This is just when it came in Win10 updates 
(strangely, the Win 7 systems got it earlier).

> Of course, you could install Google's Chrome.  I've had it for awhile as
> my secondary web browser.  Firefox is my primary web browser.

Same here.

-- 
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"It has been discovered that the man who was lost in thought was not a
church member." [Lemuel K. Washburn, _Is The Bible Worth Reading And
Other Essays_]

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#119518

FromWolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com>
Date2020-08-11 18:04 -0400
Message-ID<0001HW.24E34D8302E70D7770000131538F@news.supernews.com>
In reply to#119484
On 11 Aug 2020, Mark Lloyd wrote
(in article <%1AYG.72596$hc5.30744@fx28.iad>):

> I noticed that today's Win10 update replaced MS Edge with Chromium Edge.
> They took a long time to do that.

not nearly long enough.

I use FF and turned off everything Edge. Again.

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#119567

Frommechanic <mechanic@example.net>
Date2020-08-12 13:00 +0100
Message-ID<qeqrlmxaa7eg.dlg@example1357.net>
In reply to#119518
On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 18:04:51 -0400, Wolffan wrote:

> On 11 Aug 2020, Mark Lloyd wrote
> (in article <%1AYG.72596$hc5.30744@fx28.iad>):
> 
>> I noticed that today's Win10 update replaced MS Edge with Chromium Edge.
>> They took a long time to do that.
> 
> not nearly long enough.
> 
> I use FF and turned off everything Edge. Again.

Are you one of those with "Ken" somewhere in their username? Doesn't
look like it - that's a handy rule for constructing a regular
expression for those Usenet filters!

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#119572

FromWolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com>
Date2020-08-12 08:54 -0400
Message-ID<0001HW.24E41E090013BBB570000244F38F@news.supernews.com>
In reply to#119567
On 12 Aug 2020, mechanic wrote
(in article <qeqrlmxaa7eg.dlg@example1357.net>):

> On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 18:04:51 -0400, Wolffan wrote:
>
> > On 11 Aug 2020, Mark Lloyd wrote
> > (in article <%1AYG.72596$hc5.30744@fx28.iad>):
> >
> > > I noticed that today's Win10 update replaced MS Edge with Chromium Edge.
> > > They took a long time to do that.
> >
> > not nearly long enough.
> >
> > I use FF and turned off everything Edge. Again.
>
> Are you one of those with "Ken" somewhere in their username?

what on Earth are you talking about?

> Doesn't
> look like it - that's a handy rule for constructing a regular
> expression for those Usenet filters!

It’s simple: I use a variety of computers, mostly Mac, but some Windows and 
Linux. I use Firefox as my normal web browser on all of them. Apple doesn’t 
care; if I wanted to, I could even delete Safari completely without problems. 
Ubuntu and Mint don’t care. Microsoft cares, and tries desperately to force 
Edge. If I click on a web search result from the search box in the Start 
Menu, for example, Edge launches. So I don’t click there. I get little 
pop-ups and banners and crap trying to get me to switch to the ‘best 
browser for Windows’;
I kill them. On several occasions after a major Windows update, my default 
browser has somehow changed to Edge; I change it back. If I could nuke Edge 
completely off of ny Windows systems I would. I don’t do Edge. I don’t do 
Chrome. Opera, Brave, and Vivaldi aren’t my browsers of choice, though at 
least one of them would be on my various machines.

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#119583

FromKen Blake <ken@invalidemail.com>
Date2020-08-12 08:14 -0700
Message-ID<hpifaqFs5euU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#119572
On 8/12/2020 5:54 AM, Wolffan wrote:

> On several occasions after a major Windows update, my default
> browser has somehow changed to Edge; I change it back. If I could nuke Edge
> completely off of ny Windows systems I would. I don’t do Edge. 


I do, but only very seldom, when some poorly-written web site isn't 
compatible with FireFox.



> I don’t do
> Chrome.


Nor do I. As far as I'm concerned, Chrome is terrible--only slightly 
better than Edge.


> Opera, Brave, and Vivaldi aren’t my browsers of choice, though at
> least one of them would be on my various machines.


I never use any of those--only FireFox, and as I said, very occasionally 
Edge.


-- 
Ken

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#119654

Fromoccam <occam@invalid.nix>
Date2020-08-13 09:57 +0200
Message-ID<hpka31F95u2U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#119518
On 12/08/2020 00:04, Wolffan wrote:
> On 11 Aug 2020, Mark Lloyd wrote
> (in article <%1AYG.72596$hc5.30744@fx28.iad>):
> 
>> I noticed that today's Win10 update replaced MS Edge with Chromium Edge.
>> They took a long time to do that.
> 
> not nearly long enough.


Or, to paraphrase one song lyric:  "If I never see it again (It'll  be
too soon)"


> 
> I use FF and turned off everything Edge. Again.
> 

Ditto

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#119565

Frommechanic <mechanic@example.net>
Date2020-08-12 12:53 +0100
Message-ID<zz3cd2cx404w.dlg@example1357.net>
In reply to#119484
On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 11:53:15 -0500, Mark Lloyd wrote:

> I noticed that today's Win10 update replaced MS Edge with Chromium Edge. 
> They took a long time to do that.

Yes, same here with the change taking place last week (no option
unless you knew the update number for this and only approved certain
updates).

Cue the blizzard of "I hate Edge although I never use it" posts from
the usual suspects - oh yes, here they are!

Much better user settings for fonts in the Chromium version, giving
me some hassle as to what to set as Tampermonkey options - I see
Stylish is offered as a chrome extension as an alternative to
Tampermonkey - what do users on here prefer?

As a temporary workaround I've disabled/removed Sylish etc. for the
time being just relying on user settings for default offered by the
system as installed. Sans-serif fonts etc. I see darker themes are
popular among browser users generally - why? I find them harder to
view as a long term choice.

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#119656

Fromoccam <occam@invalid.nix>
Date2020-08-13 10:00 +0200
Message-ID<hpka83F95u2U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#119484
On 11/08/2020 18:53, Mark Lloyd wrote:
> I noticed that today's Win10 update replaced MS Edge with Chromium Edge.
> They took a long time to do that.
> 

Are we talking about version  84.0.522.59? My 'About Edge' does not
mention Chromium at all.

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#119660

Frommechanic <mechanic@example.net>
Date2020-08-13 10:29 +0100
Message-ID<m6osx3s0b9ga.dlg@example1357.net>
In reply to#119656
On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 10:00:03 +0200, occam wrote:

> On 11/08/2020 18:53, Mark Lloyd wrote:
>> I noticed that today's Win10 update replaced MS Edge with Chromium Edge.
>> They took a long time to do that.
>> 
> 
> Are we talking about version  84.0.522.59? My 'About Edge' does not
> mention Chromium at all.

When you get to the 'About' page - build 84.0.522.59 - there is
this:
"This browser is made possible by the Chromium open source project
and other open source software."

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#119662

From"SC Tom" <sc@tom.net>
Date2020-08-13 07:14 -0400
Message-ID<rh37au$7bd$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#119656

"occam" <occam@invalid.nix> wrote in message 
news:hpka83F95u2U2@mid.individual.net...
> On 11/08/2020 18:53, Mark Lloyd wrote:
>> I noticed that today's Win10 update replaced MS Edge with Chromium Edge.
>> They took a long time to do that.
>>
>
> Are we talking about version  84.0.522.59? My 'About Edge' does not
> mention Chromium at all.

Mine does:

"Microsoft Edge is up to date.
Version 84.0.522.59 (Official build) (64-bit)
This browser is made possible by the Chromium open source project and other 
open source software."
-- 

SC Tom
 

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