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  Tutorial:  How to copy ANY files, both directions between Windows and iOS/iPadOS using built-in functionality Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-13 23:42 +0000
    Re: Tutorial: How to copy ANY files, both directions between Windows and iOS/iPadOS using built-in functionality Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-13 19:02 -0500
      Re: Tutorial: How to copy ANY files, both directions between Windows and iOS/iPadOS using built-in functionality badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-14 00:18 +0000
        Re: Tutorial: How to copy ANY files, both directions between Windows and iOS/iPadOS using built-in functionality Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-13 19:40 -0500
          Re: Tutorial: How to copy ANY files, both directions between Windows and iOS/iPadOS using built-in functionality Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-13 23:49 -0400
          Re: Tutorial: How to copy ANY files, both directions between Windows and iOS/iPadOS using built-in functionality "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-14 10:13 +0000
            Re: Tutorial: How to copy ANY files, both directions between Windows and iOS/iPadOS using built-in functionality Hank Rogers <invalid@nospam.com> - 2025-04-14 14:54 +0000
              Re: Tutorial: How to copy ANY files, both directions between Windows and iOS/iPadOS using built-in functionality Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-04-14 17:23 +0100
                Re: Tutorial: How to copy ANY files, both directions between Windows and iOS/iPadOS using built-in functionality Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-14 18:45 -0500
                Re: Tutorial: How to copy ANY files, both directions between Windows and iOS/iPadOS using built-in functionality Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-15 01:54 -0400
                Re: Tutorial: How to copy ANY files, both directions between Windows and iOS/iPadOS using built-in functionality Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-15 15:31 +0000
              Re: Tutorial: How to copy ANY files, both directions between Windows and iOS/iPadOS using built-in functionality Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-15 16:20 +0000
                Re: Tutorial: How to copy ANY files, both directions between Windows and iOS/iPadOS using built-in functionality Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-15 16:49 +0000
                  Re: Tutorial: How to copy ANY files, both directions between Windows and iOS/iPadOS using built-in functionality Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-15 10:30 -0700
                  Re: Tutorial: How to copy ANY files, both directions between Windows and iOS/iPadOS using built-in functionality Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-16 18:49 +0000
                    Re: Tutorial: How to copy ANY files, both directions between Windows and iOS/iPadOS using built-in functionality Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-16 13:16 -0700
              Re: Tutorial: How to copy ANY files, both directions between Windows and iOS/iPadOS using built-in functionality Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-15 17:11 +0000
    Re: Tutorial:  How to copy ANY files, both directions between Windows and iOS/iPadOS using built-in functionality Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-04-14 14:06 +1200
      Re: Tutorial: How to copy ANY files, both directions between Windows and iOS/iPadOS using built-in functionality Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-13 21:18 -0500
    Re: Tutorial: How to copy ANY files, both directions between Windows and iOS/iPadOS using built-in functionality Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-04-14 07:20 +0200
      Re: Tutorial: How to copy ANY files, both directions between Windows and iOS/iPadOS using built-in functionality Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-14 18:30 +0000
        Re: Tutorial: How to copy ANY files, both directions between Windows and iOS/iPadOS using built-in functionality badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-14 20:17 +0000
        Re: Tutorial: How to copy ANY files, both directions between Windows and iOS/iPadOS using built-in functionality Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-04-15 10:18 +1200
    Re: Tutorial:  How to copy ANY files, both directions between Windows and iOS/iPadOS using built-in functionality Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-14 06:24 +0000
      Re: Tutorial: How to copy ANY files, both directions between Windows and iOS/iPadOS using built-in functionality "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-14 10:09 +0000
        Re: Tutorial: How to copy ANY files, both directions between Windows and iOS/iPadOS using built-in functionality Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-14 12:23 +0000
        Re: Tutorial: How to copy ANY files, both directions between Windows and iOS/iPadOS using built-in functionality Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-14 12:19 -0700
          Re: Tutorial: How to copy ANY files, both directions between Windows and iOS/iPadOS using built-in functionality badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-14 20:17 +0000
            Re: Tutorial: How to copy ANY files, both directions between Windows and iOS/iPadOS using built-in functionality Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-14 14:59 -0700
            Re: Tutorial: How to copy ANY files, both directions between Windows and iOS/iPadOS using built-in functionality Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-14 22:10 +0000
              Re: Tutorial: How to copy ANY files, both directions between Windows and iOS/iPadOS using built-in functionality david <this@is.invalid> - 2025-04-14 16:17 -0600
              Re: Tutorial: How to copy ANY files, both directions between Windows and iOS/iPadOS using built-in functionality Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-14 15:24 -0700
                Re: Tutorial: How to copy ANY files, both directions between Windows and iOS/iPadOS using built-in functionality Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-14 18:39 -0500
    Re: Tutorial: How to copy ANY files, both directions between Windows and iOS/iPadOS using built-in functionality wasbit <wasbit@REMOVEhotmail.com> - 2025-04-14 11:46 +0100

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#183650 — Re: Tutorial: How to copy ANY files, both directions between Windows and iOS/iPadOS using built-in functionality

On Apr 14, 2025 at 1:20:30 AM EDT, "Jörg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:

> On 14.04.25 01:42, Tyrone wrote:
>> This requires NO additional software to be installed on anything. All of this
>> functionality is native to Windows, Linux and Unix (iOS/iPadOS).
> 
> 
> Utter nonsense. Dysfunctional and ways too complicated.

No.  It works just fine.  No more difficult than networking 2 Windows PCs. 

> iCloud exists and is the safest and most elegant way to transfer data
> between iOS und Windows/Linux devices.

Yes, I do that too. All of my iPhone pictures are automatically downloaded to
my Windows PC.  The whole point of this is to copy ANY file locally. 

> The next easiest way is to use the LAN. I use it quite often.

Um, this IS using the LAN. Local Area Network. This is standard networking. 
You use the same method when networking 2 Windows PCs. Or Windows and a Mac. 
Etc.

> Less elegant: An external USB device (stick or HD) but most secure way
> for this purpose.

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#183655 — Re: Tutorial: How to copy ANY files, both directions between Windows and iOS/iPadOS using built-in functionality

Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
> On Apr 14, 2025 at 1:20:30 AM EDT, "Jörg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 14.04.25 01:42, Tyrone wrote:
>>> This requires NO additional software to be installed on anything. All of this
>>> functionality is native to Windows, Linux and Unix (iOS/iPadOS).
>> 
>> 
>> Utter nonsense. Dysfunctional and ways too complicated.
> 
> No.  It works just fine.  No more difficult than networking 2 Windows PCs. 
> 
>> iCloud exists and is the safest and most elegant way to transfer data
>> between iOS und Windows/Linux devices.
> 
> Yes, I do that too. All of my iPhone pictures are automatically downloaded to
> my Windows PC.  The whole point of this is to copy ANY file locally. 
> 
>> The next easiest way is to use the LAN. I use it quite often.
> 
> Um, this IS using the LAN. Local Area Network. This is standard networking. 
> You use the same method when networking 2 Windows PCs. Or Windows and a Mac. 
> Etc.
> 
>> Less elegant: An external USB device (stick or HD) but most secure way
>> for this purpose.
> 

You must not have met George yet…

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#183669 — Re: Tutorial: How to copy ANY files, both directions between Windows and iOS/iPadOS using built-in functionality

On 2025-04-14 18:30:56 +0000, Tyrone said:

> On Apr 14, 2025 at 1:20:30 AM EDT, "Jörg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 14.04.25 01:42, Tyrone wrote:
>>> This requires NO additional software to be installed on anything. All 
>>> of this functionality is native to Windows, Linux and Unix (iOS/iPadOS).
>> 
>> Utter nonsense. Dysfunctional and ways too complicated.
> 
> No.  It works just fine.  No more difficult than networking 2 Windows PCs.

"networking 2 Windows PCs" ... so it *is* way over-complicated, and 
only works on days with an 's' in the name and if you cross your 
left-hand fingers while poking your tongue out the right side of your 
mouth, and don't breathe.  :-p



>> iCloud exists and is the safest and most elegant way to transfer data
>> between iOS und Windows/Linux devices.
> 
> Yes, I do that too. All of my iPhone pictures are automatically downloaded to
> my Windows PC.  The whole point of this is to copy ANY file locally.
> 
>> The next easiest way is to use the LAN. I use it quite often.
> 
> Um, this IS using the LAN. Local Area Network. This is standard networking.
> You use the same method when networking 2 Windows PCs. Or Windows and a Mac.
> Etc.
> 
>> Less elegant: An external USB device (stick or HD) but most secure way
>> for this purpose.

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#183635

On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 23:42:57 +0000, Tyrone wrote :


> This requires NO additional software to be installed on anything. All of this
> functionality is native to Windows, Linux and Unix (iOS/iPadOS).

Heh heh heh... 
I laughed when I saw this, as I thought it was repartee done apropos.

I'm beginning to think Tyrone isn't nospam, as I doubt nospam could come up
with any suggestion that actually stood any chance of actually working. 

Let's compare the 2 tutorials the way the Apple trolls compare everything.

Tutorial:  How to send files between platforms using SMB
 Words: 765 
 Characters: 4,507 (This count includes spaces and punctuation)
 Paragraphs: 20

Tutorial: How to send files between platforms using LocalSend
 Words: 407
 Characters: 2,335 (including spaces and punctuation)
 Paragraphs: 27

Using the method all the Apple trolls have used for decades to assess the
complexity of a subject, my tutorial, at 407 words, is ~50% less complex.
:)

> First, to avoid ANY confusion.  This method does all of the copying to/from
> Windows on the iOS device.

Since I'm always sensible and reasonable, I don't disagree at all with the
method that Tyrone is espousing. (What I had disagreed with were the lies.)

> You also need an account with a password on Windows. You should already have
> this anyway. This does NOT have to be Microsoft account. A local account is
> fine. Name can be Files and password can be anything you want.

The SMB method won't work for me (simply because I don't live in the
slums), but it will work for people who have a password on their account.

> Done and done. Easy, nothing to install. Copying from iOS to Windows is just
> as easy. Copy from On My iPhone/iPad and paste to whatever folder on the
> Windows drive. 

Your tutorial is nice but the users here need to know that images and
videos (in the iOS DCIM directory) are handled differently than most files.

It's just a few more steps to get other formats into "Files", which is
documented over here in a Tutorial that is still about 50% less complex by
the measure that Apple trolls have used for decades to assess complexity.
 <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=86405&group=alt.comp.os.windows-10#86405>

Apple troll complexity score:
 Words: 414
 Characters: 2,470 (including spaces and punctuation)
 Paragraphs: 31
 
> Note that this is all standard SMB networking stuff.  SMB networking is how
> Windows/Linux/Unix share files/folders with each other on a network.

Decades ago, I set up CAPS (for the mac), CIFs/SMB (for Windows) and Samba
(for SunOS & Solaris) to get the marketing & engineering teams to share
docs. This was before "the web" existed as a thing in corporate worlds.

The Apple resource fork and data fork aside, I was able to do it so I'm
well aware of SMB networking. I agree it works for a lot of people even
today (although the Apple trolls always claim Apple has to be courageous to
remove stuff that works - like the aux jack - simply because it works).

Is Columbia AppleTalk Protocol still a thing?

> Also note that you can share any folder(s) individually, instead of sharing
> the entire drive.  You could share only your Windows User folder, for example.
>  Or you could share a different data drive. I have 4 drives shared here: C, D,
> E and F.  I have MANY years of photos, PDFs, music and video files, etc. You
> are in complete control of this.

The sandbox. iOS has that sandbox. Don't forget the iOS sandbox Tyrone.

> I do this all the time using iOS 17.7.2 and 18.4. I also have an iPhone 8 Plus
> with 16.7.10.  Works fine there too.  I have also tested Windows 7, 8.1, 11
> and Server 2012 R2. 

Since I'm always sensibly logical, I agree with you that SMB can work for
many people under many circumstances, and has worked for decades, Tyrone.

Both methods have their advantages and disadvantages (e.g., LocalSend is
used by, I think it was Elijah, for Android-to-Android, while wasbit used
it because his Windows version was old - as I recall).

Me? 

I'll use it because I don't have a password on my Windows box (because I
don't live in the slums, that's why); but I recognize most people do.

Thanks for adding value to this newsgroup. Much appreciated. 
-- 
Thank God you didn't suggest that iTunes which Jolly Roger insisted we use.

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#183636 — Re: Tutorial: How to copy ANY files, both directions between Windows and iOS/iPadOS using built-in functionality

Marion wrote:

>I'm beginning to think Tyrone isn't nospam, as I doubt nospam could
>come up with any suggestion that actually stood any chance of
>actually working.

I don't remember nospam ever writing anything more than a paragraph or
two.  He certainly wouldn't have written out this tutorial and would
instead have provided a link to an Apple document.

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#183642 — Re: Tutorial: How to copy ANY files, both directions between Windows and iOS/iPadOS using built-in functionality

On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 10:09:56 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :


>>I'm beginning to think Tyrone isn't nospam, as I doubt nospam could
>>come up with any suggestion that actually stood any chance of
>>actually working.
> 
> I don't remember nospam ever writing anything more than a paragraph or
> two.  He certainly wouldn't have written out this tutorial and would
> instead have provided a link to an Apple document.

I have to agree with you on that badgolferman, as nospam, being a classic
Apple troll, was never purposefully helpful, as his only intent, as with
all the Apple trolls, was simply to defend Apple's honor, to the death.

Tyrone is defending Apple's honor to the death also, but at least he wrote
up the SMB steps, and, make note, nospam never used modern iOS equipment.

The good news, for everyone, is when we subtract the brazen lies by the
Apple trolls, we have two methods to get the files onto an iOS device.

And that's good.

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#183652 — Re: Tutorial: How to copy ANY files, both directions between Windows and iOS/iPadOS using built-in functionality

On 2025-04-14 03:09, badgolferman wrote:
> Marion wrote:
> 
>> I'm beginning to think Tyrone isn't nospam, as I doubt nospam could
>> come up with any suggestion that actually stood any chance of
>> actually working.
> 
> I don't remember nospam ever writing anything more than a paragraph or
> two.  He certainly wouldn't have written out this tutorial and would
> instead have provided a link to an Apple document.

I love how you ignored this:

"The SMB method won't work for me (simply because I don't live in the
slums), but it will work for people who have a password on their account."

Or do you agree that everyone who uses passwords on their accounts must 
"live in the slums"?

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#183656 — Re: Tutorial: How to copy ANY files, both directions between Windows and iOS/iPadOS using built-in functionality

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2025-04-14 03:09, badgolferman wrote:
>> Marion wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm beginning to think Tyrone isn't nospam, as I doubt nospam could
>>> come up with any suggestion that actually stood any chance of
>>> actually working.
>> 
>> I don't remember nospam ever writing anything more than a paragraph or
>> two.  He certainly wouldn't have written out this tutorial and would
>> instead have provided a link to an Apple document.
> 
> I love how you ignored this:
> 
> "The SMB method won't work for me (simply because I don't live in the
> slums), but it will work for people who have a password on their account."
> 
> Or do you agree that everyone who uses passwords on their accounts must 
> "live in the slums"?
> 

Maybe the place he lives is a palace compared to the rest of us. 

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#183666 — Re: Tutorial: How to copy ANY files, both directions between Windows and iOS/iPadOS using built-in functionality

On 2025-04-14 13:17, badgolferman wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> On 2025-04-14 03:09, badgolferman wrote:
>>> Marion wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm beginning to think Tyrone isn't nospam, as I doubt nospam could
>>>> come up with any suggestion that actually stood any chance of
>>>> actually working.
>>>
>>> I don't remember nospam ever writing anything more than a paragraph or
>>> two.  He certainly wouldn't have written out this tutorial and would
>>> instead have provided a link to an Apple document.
>>
>> I love how you ignored this:
>>
>> "The SMB method won't work for me (simply because I don't live in the
>> slums), but it will work for people who have a password on their account."
>>
>> Or do you agree that everyone who uses passwords on their accounts must
>> "live in the slums"?
>>
> 
> Maybe the place he lives is a palace compared to the rest of us.
> 

Huh.

Why not just come right out and call him on his bullshit?

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#183667 — Re: Tutorial: How to copy ANY files, both directions between Windows and iOS/iPadOS using built-in functionality

On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 20:17:32 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :


> Maybe the place he lives is a palace compared to the rest of us.

You should know by now that it's a dig at the Apple culture.

At the risk of explaining too much about Apple's strategy for people to
comprehend in one bite, Apple's fundamental strategy with iOS is they
designed it as a dumb terminal which *requires* constantly (every single
day!) logging into the Cupertino matrix in order for iOS to do anything
useful.

This is important.

Every moment of every day, for their entire lives, Apple users are logging
into Apple's servers, just to get the most basic of functionality on iOS.

Hell... these Apple owners log into the Apple Cupertino servers pretty much
on every breath they take - they're *that* connected to Apple's matrix.

Since Apple has billions of people constantly logging into its servers,
Apple is fantastically *desperate* to have people put on silly gimmicks to
"protect" their system from their wife, kids, and friends of the family.

Why do you think Apple makes a huge (bullshit) deal bout BIOMETRICS!!!!!!!!
Apple essentially, tells all their customers that they live in the slums.

Apple teaches every one of their customers that everyone around them is a
threat. That their wife is out to get them. Their kids too. And friends.

Hence Apple owners live in constant fear for their lives, every moment.
As if they live in the slums.

As for me, my cars are parked outside and I don't even lock the doors.
My house is unlocked. My gate open. I live in the Santa Cruz Mountains.

I don't live in the slums. So I don't fear everyone around me.

Apple owners fear every single person around them.
Which is why I joke that Apple owners all live in the projects.

The slums.
Otherwise, why are they so afraid of their own wife & kids & friends?

All Apple owners live in the slums. That's what Apple teaches them.
-- 
In the subterranean caversn of the Apple ecosystem, every single person is
to be feared as a dire thread - you MUST protect iOS from even your wife!

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#183668 — Re: Tutorial: How to copy ANY files, both directions between Windows and iOS/iPadOS using built-in functionality

Using <news:vtk13q$17t3$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>, Marion wrote:

>> Maybe the place he lives is a palace compared to the rest of us.
> 
> You should know by now that it's a dig at the Apple culture.

Is there any other operating system which requires a login to do basic
things like populating the device with typical apps that people use.

Or is it just Apple?

Because if any other operating system requires that login for the device to
do basic things like install apps, then that other OS maker thinks its
owners live in those slums too.

Or is it just Apple whose owners are told that they all live in the slums?

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#183671 — Re: Tutorial: How to copy ANY files, both directions between Windows and iOS/iPadOS using built-in functionality

On 2025-04-14 15:10, Marion wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 20:17:32 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :
> 
> 
>> Maybe the place he lives is a palace compared to the rest of us.
> 
> You should know by now that it's a dig at the Apple culture.
> 
> At the risk of explaining too much about Apple's strategy for people to
> comprehend in one bite, Apple's fundamental strategy with iOS is they
> designed it as a dumb terminal which *requires* constantly (every single
> day!) logging into the Cupertino matrix in order for iOS to do anything
> useful.

Utterly false.

> 
> This is important.
> 
> Every moment of every day, for their entire lives, Apple users are logging
> into Apple's servers, just to get the most basic of functionality on iOS.

False.

> 
> Hell... these Apple owners log into the Apple Cupertino servers pretty much
> on every breath they take - they're *that* connected to Apple's matrix.

False.

> 
> Since Apple has billions of people constantly logging into its servers,
> Apple is fantastically *desperate* to have people put on silly gimmicks to
> "protect" their system from their wife, kids, and friends of the family.
> 
> Why do you think Apple makes a huge (bullshit) deal bout BIOMETRICS!!!!!!!!
> Apple essentially, tells all their customers that they live in the slums.

How is Apple doing that?

> 
> Apple teaches every one of their customers that everyone around them is a
> threat. That their wife is out to get them. Their kids too. And friends.

False.

Not everyone, but a phone without a passcode can be stolen and if there 
is any private information on it at all, that information is at risk.

> 
> Hence Apple owners live in constant fear for their lives, every moment.
> As if they live in the slums.
> 
> As for me, my cars are parked outside and I don't even lock the doors.
> My house is unlocked. My gate open. I live in the Santa Cruz Mountains.
> 
> I don't live in the slums. So I don't fear everyone around me.
> 
> Apple owners fear every single person around them.
> Which is why I joke that Apple owners all live in the projects.
> 
> The slums.
> Otherwise, why are they so afraid of their own wife & kids & friends?
> 
> All Apple owners live in the slums. That's what Apple teaches them.

You're a horrible person.

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#183673 — Re: Tutorial: How to copy ANY files, both directions between Windows and iOS/iPadOS using built-in functionality

Alan wrote:
> On 2025-04-14 15:10, Marion wrote:
>> On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 20:17:32 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :
>>
>>
>>> Maybe the place he lives is a palace compared to the rest of us.
>>
>> You should know by now that it's a dig at the Apple culture.
>>
>> At the risk of explaining too much about Apple's strategy for people to
>> comprehend in one bite, Apple's fundamental strategy with iOS is they
>> designed it as a dumb terminal which *requires* constantly (every single
>> day!) logging into the Cupertino matrix in order for iOS to do anything
>> useful.
> 
> Utterly false.
> 
>>
>> This is important.
>>
>> Every moment of every day, for their entire lives, Apple users are 
>> logging
>> into Apple's servers, just to get the most basic of functionality on iOS.
> 
> False.
> 
>>
>> Hell... these Apple owners log into the Apple Cupertino servers pretty 
>> much
>> on every breath they take - they're *that* connected to Apple's matrix.
> 
> False.
> 
>>
>> Since Apple has billions of people constantly logging into its servers,
>> Apple is fantastically *desperate* to have people put on silly 
>> gimmicks to
>> "protect" their system from their wife, kids, and friends of the family.
>>
>> Why do you think Apple makes a huge (bullshit) deal bout 
>> BIOMETRICS!!!!!!!!
>> Apple essentially, tells all their customers that they live in the slums.
> 
> How is Apple doing that?
> 
>>
>> Apple teaches every one of their customers that everyone around them is a
>> threat. That their wife is out to get them. Their kids too. And friends.
> 
> False.
> 
> Not everyone, but a phone without a passcode can be stolen and if there 
> is any private information on it at all, that information is at risk.
> 
>>
>> Hence Apple owners live in constant fear for their lives, every moment.
>> As if they live in the slums.
>>
>> As for me, my cars are parked outside and I don't even lock the doors.
>> My house is unlocked. My gate open. I live in the Santa Cruz Mountains.
>>
>> I don't live in the slums. So I don't fear everyone around me.
>>
>> Apple owners fear every single person around them.
>> Which is why I joke that Apple owners all live in the projects.
>>
>> The slums.
>> Otherwise, why are they so afraid of their own wife & kids & friends?
>>
>> All Apple owners live in the slums. That's what Apple teaches them.
> 
> You're a horrible person.
> 


Preach it Brother !!

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#183638 — Re: Tutorial: How to copy ANY files, both directions between Windows and iOS/iPadOS using built-in functionality

On 14/04/2025 00:42, Tyrone wrote:
> This requires NO additional software to be installed on anything. All of this
> functionality is native to Windows, Linux and Unix (iOS/iPadOS).
> 
> First, to avoid ANY confusion.  This method does all of the copying to/from
> Windows on the iOS device. Which makes sense. Windows is the server.  iOS is
> the client. Not to mention that when I want a file on my phone that is
> currently only on my PC, it makes no sense to go to the PC and send it to the
> phone. Why not just get it on the phone directly? My Windows PC is not with me
> wherever I am in the house. That's what networks are for.
> 
> Also, when you are at work and need a file from the company servers, you don't
> go to the server and push the file down to your PC. You connect to the server
> and get the file, from your PC. Which is exactly what we will do here.
> 
> Anyways. Find your Windows IP address. There are many ways to do that, surely
> you don't need directions for that.
> 
> On Windows, share the C (or whatever) drive. Right click the drive, Give
> Access To, Advanced Sharing, Sharing Tab, Advanced Sharing again. Click Share
> This Folder. Make sure you give full control under the Permissions on that
> screen, if you want to be able to create/edit/delete files on Windows from
> your iPhone/iPad.  If all you want to do is copy files from Windows to iOS
> (one direction only), then the default Read Permission is fine.  You can also
> set the maximum number of simultaneous users here.
> 
> You also need an account with a password on Windows. You should already have
> this anyway. This does NOT have to be Microsoft account. A local account is
> fine. Name can be Files and password can be anything you want.
> 
> The above only needs to be done once. If you are already networking multiple
> Windows/Macs/whatever (as I do here) then all of this is already done. Also
> the above instructions are for Windows 10 Pro. Windows Home I THINK is
> slightly different. It still works, but I have not used any Windows Home
> versions for many years.
> 
> On any iPhone/iPad with at least iOS 13, connect to your local wifi. The same
> one that your Windows PC is on. Open the Files app. Click on the 3 dots in the
> circle at the top. One of the options is Connect To Server. Tap that. Enter
> the IP address of the Windows PC. Connect as Registered User. Enter your login
> name and password.
> 
> Now you will see the Windows C (or whatever) drive on your iPhone/iPad.
> Navigate to whatever folder you want. Tap a file and hold, the menu will pop
> up. Choose Copy. Then tap On My iPad on the left for an iPad. For an iPhone,
> return to the main Browse screen and tap On My iPhone. That will you take you
> to your "users" folder on the iPhone/iPad. Here you can create folders for
> stuff that you download from the internet or from your local network. Tap and
> hold, tap Paste.
> 
> Done and done. Easy, nothing to install. Copying from iOS to Windows is just
> as easy. Copy from On My iPhone/iPad and paste to whatever folder on the
> Windows drive.
> 
> Now that the server part is setup on Windows, all you need to do is Connect To
> Server anytime you want to move files. On ANY iOS device that is on the same
> network as the Windows PC in question.
> 
> Note that this is all standard SMB networking stuff.  SMB networking is how
> Windows/Linux/Unix share files/folders with each other on a network. You share
> the (drive/folder/whatever) on one and connect to that share on as many others
> as needed. Offices using Windows use this exact same method for users to
> connect to company Windows file servers.
> 
> Also note that you can share any folder(s) individually, instead of sharing
> the entire drive.  You could share only your Windows User folder, for example.
>   Or you could share a different data drive. I have 4 drives shared here: C, D,
> E and F.  I have MANY years of photos, PDFs, music and video files, etc. You
> are in complete control of this.
> 
> But for me, sharing the entire drive is just easier. Because you don't have to
> worry about saving/moving things on Windows to a "special folder" to make them
> available on the network. Besides, you have to login via the Files app (or on
> another Windows box, etc.) to see anything. So there is security.
> 
> The only issue you might see is that your IP address of the Windows box might
> change after some number of days.  Some wifi routers change IP addresses at
> what seems to be random times.  Mine here do not (Netgear). IP addresses are
> based on the MAC addresses of each device.  But there are easy ways to fix
> that issue.
> 
> I do this all the time using iOS 17.7.2 and 18.4. I also have an iPhone 8 Plus
> with 16.7.10.  Works fine there too.  I have also tested Windows 7, 8.1, 11
> and Server 2012 R2.  All work fine, because they all use the same SMB
> networking method. I have been doing this for around 4 (5?) years, which was
> when I first learned of this. I was playing with the Files app and stumbled
> upon the "Connect To Server" option.
> 
> Before that I was emailing things to myself. That of course works, but there
> are file size limits to email attachments.  Using the SMB method here, you can
> copy entire folders back and forth. Only limitation is the amount of storage
> you have on Windows and iOS.
> 

Thanks.
I connected up my Windows 10 PC, added a password to the local user 
account, shared a folder then followed your instructions & I can see the 
Windows files on an Iphone 7 that I've been lent.

In addition the Windows 10 PC can also read & write to the shared files 
on my Windows 8.1 rig but not vice versa as I log in without a password. 
This is something that hasn't happened for some years.

The W10 files are read only on the iphone so I can't do anything other 
than read them.

I am a complete novice with phones. Basic things like what an icon 
means, finding a backslash or closing a browser tab can take hours.

-- 
Regards
wasbit

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