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  Off Topic WordPerfect knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-10 10:29 -0400
    Re: Off Topic WordPerfect Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-04-10 16:50 +0100
      Re: Off Topic WordPerfect micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-10 14:06 -0400
        Re: Off Topic WordPerfect Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-12 05:36 +0000
          Re: Off Topic WordPerfect Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-12 08:50 -0400
    Re: Off Topic WordPerfect "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-11 19:51 -0700

#183494 — Off Topic WordPerfect

I don't know where else to ask this question.

I want to Batch print a group of envelops using a Quattro Pro database 
for the address.   I can merge the information from Quattro Pro into a 
Word Perfect document and know how to set the printer to Envelop.    I 
can print the envelops individually by highlighting the address in the 
output docuement with the merged information using the menu 
Format/Envelop in Word Perfect.

However when the envelops are printed as a batch,  I can not get the 
printer to accept the document from Word Perfect.  I get a printer 
error: "Printed document does not match the Size of paper in the printer."

If any one else has solved this problem in printing batch envelops from 
Word Perfect would the share the solutions?

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#183497

knuttle wrote:
> I don't know where else to ask this question.
> 
> I want to Batch print a group of envelops using a Quattro Pro database 
> for the address.   I can merge the information from Quattro Pro into a 
> Word Perfect document and know how to set the printer to Envelop.    I 
> can print the envelops individually by highlighting the address in the 
> output document with the merged information using the menu 
> Format/Envelop in Word Perfect.
> 
> However when the envelops are printed as a batch,  I can not get the 
> printer to accept the document from Word Perfect.  I get a printer 
> error: "Printed document does not match the Size of paper in the printer."
> 
> If any one else has solved this problem in printing batch envelops from 
> Word Perfect would the share the solutions?


Not directly, but:

Using MS Word (2003 edition so a long while ago) and either Access or 
Excel as the data source I could print labels and customised letters. 
The feature was called "Mailmerge".  For labels, setting the correct 
label type (Avery XXXX or whatever) was critical to getting the correct 
size, inter-label gaps, margins, and total number of labels per page. 
There was also some trick to getting several sequential labels per page, 
or just one.

It may be worth setting yours to print to a PDF printer to see what size 
paper it thinks its trying to send to the real printer.

-- 
Graham J

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#183509

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Thu, 10 Apr 2025 16:50:05 +0100, Graham J
<nobody@nowhere.co.uk> wrote:

>
>It may be worth setting yours to print to a PDF printer to see what size 
>paper it thinks its trying to send to the real printer.

Off topic from the off-topic, but what is the differrence between
printing (like from a webbrowsewr): Save to PDF vs. Microsoft Print to
PDF?    Don't they both divide by pages? 

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#183588

micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
> In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Thu, 10 Apr 2025 16:50:05 +0100, Graham J
> <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> It may be worth setting yours to print to a PDF printer to see what size 
>> paper it thinks its trying to send to the real printer.
> 
> Off topic from the off-topic, but what is the differrence between
> printing (like from a webbrowsewr): Save to PDF vs. Microsoft Print to
> PDF?    Don't they both divide by pages? 

Just different methods to achieve the same thing. The resulting pdf might
be slightly (cosmetically) different depending on which you choose. 

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#183591

On Sat, 4/12/2025 1:36 AM, Chris wrote:
> micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
>> In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Thu, 10 Apr 2025 16:50:05 +0100, Graham J
>> <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> It may be worth setting yours to print to a PDF printer to see what size 
>>> paper it thinks its trying to send to the real printer.
>>
>> Off topic from the off-topic, but what is the differrence between
>> printing (like from a webbrowsewr): Save to PDF vs. Microsoft Print to
>> PDF?    Don't they both divide by pages? 
> 
> Just different methods to achieve the same thing. The resulting pdf might
> be slightly (cosmetically) different depending on which you choose. 
> 

The prints can be "suitable for re-purposing" or they can be "completely useless".
That is the nature of modern PDF.

PDF stands for Portable Document Format, which means the file is supposed
to be self supporting, and view-able on a Mac just as easily as on a PC.

PDF documents were a lot more useful, back when they were invented.

PDF pages consisting of low-res pixmap images (like they were generated
by using a scanner), aren't exactly my cup of tea. They can probably
be OCRed to repair them and make proper documents from them. Or, you
could have used the right print process in the first place. Those are
your choices.

This has elements of an older style of PDF.

https://www.acs.psu.edu/drussell/Demos/SWR/SmithChart.pdf

   [Picture]

    https://i.postimg.cc/tRPYjF5h/decent-quality-casual-PDF.gif

If there are any jaggies on the fonts on that document, it is
a fault of the printer interpretation routine (for printers that
directly accept PDF).

That document can be re-purposed, as the recipient can copy
sentences out of it when crafting their own report. The document
has not been made impossible to extract/copy text.

One of the reasons some students made that document, in a university,
is they objected to having to do engineering problem assignments on
paper that cost $0.25 a sheet. At the time, they hand-crafted PostScript
code, like a "computer program" in a sense, to draw that diagram. The PDF
in this case, was likely distilled, and if you do properties, that
particular file was distilled on a Mac. The older your Distiller,
the nicer the file.

The PDF produced on computers today, is borderline abusive.
But you have to have worked with the documents from the old
days, to understand what properties have degraded. The PDF
was never intended to make "shit prints" for example. It was
supposed to print nicely and not be a pain in the ass.

   Paul

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#183587

knuttle wrote:
> I don't know where else to ask this question.
> 
> I want to Batch print a group of envelops using a Quattro Pro database
> for the address.   I can merge the information from Quattro Pro into a
> Word Perfect document and know how to set the printer to Envelop.    I
> can print the envelops individually by highlighting the address in the
> output docuement with the merged information using the menu
> Format/Envelop in Word Perfect.
> 
> However when the envelops are printed as a batch,  I can not get the
> printer to accept the document from Word Perfect.  I get a printer
> error: "Printed document does not match the Size of paper in the printer."
> 
> If any one else has solved this problem in printing batch envelops from
> Word Perfect would the share the solutions?

Create a free account here:

  https://www.wpuniverse.com/

I've had an account with them for years. They've never let me down.
Also, you can find really cool WP macros there.

-- 
John C.

I filter out all crossposts and garbage from trolls.

Take back Microsoft from India

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