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Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions

Started byMarion <marion@facts.com>
First post2025-04-06 10:26 +0000
Last post2025-04-07 09:24 +0000
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  Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-06 10:26 +0000
    Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2025-04-06 15:09 +0100
      Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-06 20:30 +0000
        Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Larry Wolff <larrywolff@larrywolff.net> - 2025-04-06 18:39 -0400
          Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-06 22:45 +0000
            Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions "Jan K." <janicekoziol@nie.ma.spamu.prosze.com> - 2025-04-06 23:38 +0000
              Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-07 03:43 +0000
                Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-07 11:13 +0000
                  Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-09 09:54 -0700
            Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions wasbit <wasbit@REMOVEhotmail.com> - 2025-04-07 09:55 +0100
              Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-07 14:46 +0000
                Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-07 15:40 +0000
                  Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-04-07 12:03 -0400
                    Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-04-07 12:04 -0400
                    Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-07 22:15 +0000
                  Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-07 18:41 +0000
                    Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-07 21:45 +0000
                      Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-07 21:50 +0000
                        Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-08 07:43 +0000
                          Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-09 13:36 -0700
                            Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-09 22:11 +0000
                              Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-09 18:48 -0500
                                Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-10 00:27 +0000
                                  Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Finnigan <fionnagain@eircom.net> - 2025-04-10 08:49 +0000
                                Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-09 20:00 -0700
                              Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-10 15:05 +0000
                            Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-09 17:22 -0500
                              Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-10 00:35 +0000
                                Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-09 19:47 -0500
                                  Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-10 01:14 +0000
                                    Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-09 20:53 -0500
                                      Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-10 03:01 +0000
                                      Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-09 20:05 -0700
                                        Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Hank Rogers <invalid@nospam.com> - 2025-04-10 04:15 +0000
                                          Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-10 09:16 +0000
                                            Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-10 10:09 -0700
                                          Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-10 10:01 -0700
                                  Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-09 20:04 -0700
                                    Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-10 03:27 +0000
                                      Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Hank Rogers <invalid@nospam.com> - 2025-04-10 04:12 +0000
                                        Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-10 09:19 +0000
                                          Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-10 10:10 -0700
                                        Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-10 14:44 +0000
                                        Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-10 10:09 -0700
                                    Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-09 22:33 -0500
                                      Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-09 20:41 -0700
                                        Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Hank Rogers <invalid@nospam.com> - 2025-04-10 04:04 +0000
                                          Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-10 09:31 +0000
                                            Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-10 10:10 -0700
                                          Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-10 10:10 -0700
                                      Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-10 09:28 +0000
                                        Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-10 10:11 -0700
                                Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-04-09 21:42 -0500
                                  Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Bill Powell <bill@anarchists.org> - 2025-04-10 11:38 +0200
                              Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-09 20:01 -0700
                                Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-09 22:19 -0500
                                  Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Bill Powell <bill@anarchists.org> - 2025-04-10 11:47 +0200
                      Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-07 21:53 +0000
                        Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-07 22:36 +0000
                        Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-04-07 20:21 -0500
                          Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-08 01:31 +0000
                            Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-08 21:45 +0000
                              Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-10 03:24 +0000
                                Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-10 09:52 +0000
                                  Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Bill W <nothing@nowhere.com> - 2025-04-10 11:27 -0500
                                  Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-10 10:12 -0700
                                  Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions (was: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions) Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-11 00:34 +0000
                                    Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-10 17:37 -0700
                                      Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-11 01:04 +0000
                                        Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-11 01:29 +0000
                                          Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-10 18:32 -0700
                                          Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-11 03:35 +0000
                                            Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-11 07:51 +0000
                                              Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-11 15:59 +0000
                                                Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-11 19:08 +0000
                                                  Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-11 13:31 -0700
                                                    Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-11 20:43 +0000
                                                      Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions Bill W <nothing@nowhere.com> - 2025-04-11 16:28 -0500
                                                        Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-11 16:41 -0500
                                                        Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-11 22:06 +0000
                                                          Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-11 15:45 -0700
                                                            Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-11 22:55 +0000
                                                              Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-11 16:00 -0700
                                                              Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions david <this@is.invalid> - 2025-04-11 19:07 -0600
                                                                Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-11 18:25 -0700
                                                                  Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-12 12:05 +0000
                                                                    Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-12 10:33 -0700
                                                                      Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-14 20:41 +0000
                                                                Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-12 12:34 -0700
                                                                Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-14 20:39 +0000
                                                              Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-14 20:39 +0000
                                                                Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-14 21:01 +0000
                                                                  Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-15 16:23 +0000
                                                                    Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-15 17:26 +0000
                                                                      Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-15 10:31 -0700
                                                                      Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-15 17:47 +0000
                                                                        Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-15 11:29 -0700
                                                                        Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-16 00:56 +0000
                                                                          Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-16 13:15 -0700
                                                                            Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-17 01:23 +0000
                                                                              Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-16 18:50 -0700
                                                                                Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions wasbit <wasbit@REMOVEhotmail.com> - 2025-04-17 09:27 +0100
                                                                                  Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-17 08:33 -0400
                                                                                  Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-17 13:09 -0700
                                                                              Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-17 07:13 +0000
                                                                                Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-17 12:15 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-17 13:24 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-17 18:12 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-18 06:25 +0000
                                                                      Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-16 18:50 +0000
                                                                        Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-17 07:18 +0000
                                                                        Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-17 18:56 +0000
                                                                          Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-17 18:13 -0500
                                                                            Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-18 16:16 +0000
                                                                          Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions wasbit <wasbit@REMOVEhotmail.com> - 2025-04-18 09:24 +0100
                                                                            Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-18 16:21 +0000
                                                            Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-11 18:07 -0500
                                                      Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-11 15:44 -0700
                                                        Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-11 18:06 -0500
                                                          Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-11 16:28 -0700
                                                  Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-14 20:38 +0000
                                              Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-11 10:20 -0700
                                            Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-11 15:58 +0000
                                            Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from anything to anything without any restrictions Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-11 18:37 +0000
                                  Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-11 01:06 +0000
                                    Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-11 08:48 +0000
                                      Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-11 10:22 -0700
                                      Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-12 00:37 +0000
                                        Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-12 01:18 +0000
                                          Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-11 18:30 -0700
                                          Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-12 12:33 -0700
                                          Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-12 22:17 +0000
                                            Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-12 18:20 -0500
                                            Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-13 02:52 +0000
                                              Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-13 00:43 -0700
                                              Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-14 20:47 +0000
                                          Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-14 20:45 +0000
                                        Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-13 07:35 +0000
                                  Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-11 16:06 +0000
                                    Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-12 00:38 +0000
                                  Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-12 12:35 -0700
                        Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-09 10:05 -0700
                    Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-08 18:32 +0000
                      Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-08 22:00 +0000
                        Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-09 10:17 -0700
                      Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-09 10:16 -0700
                Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-07 22:15 +0000
                  Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-08 15:38 +0000
                Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-09 09:54 -0700
                Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-09 10:04 -0700
              Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-09 10:03 -0700
          Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-07 00:42 +0000
            Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Mickey D <mickeydavis078XX@ptd.net> - 2025-04-07 03:14 -0400
              Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-10 05:10 +0000
                Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Mickey D <mickeydavis078XX@ptd.net> - 2025-04-10 05:58 -0400
                  Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-11 15:53 +0000
                    Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-04-11 21:59 +0000
                      Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-11 15:50 -0700
                        Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-04-12 00:47 +0000
                          Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-11 18:31 -0700
                          Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-14 20:43 +0000
                      Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-14 20:42 +0000
                        Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-15 17:32 +0000
                          Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-15 10:44 -0700
        Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-09 09:15 -0700
      Re: Simple Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without Apple restrictions - instead of jumping thru 12 hoops.   (was: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions) Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-06 21:14 +0000
        Re: Simple Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without Apple restrictions - instead of jumping thru 12 hoops. Oliver <ollie@invalid.net> - 2025-04-06 16:14 -0600
          Re: Simple Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without Apple restrictions - instead of jumping thru 12 hoops. Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-06 22:27 +0000
            Re: Simple Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without Apple restrictions - instead of jumping thru 12 hoops. "Jan K." <janicekoziol@nie.ma.spamu.prosze.com> - 2025-04-06 23:36 +0000
              Re: Simple Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without Apple restrictions - instead of jumping thru 12 hoops. Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-07 03:43 +0000
                Re: Simple Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without Apple restrictions - instead of jumping thru 12 hoops. Hank <hankrobins@notspam.uk> - 2025-04-07 08:59 +0200
                  Re: Simple Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without Apple restrictions - instead of jumping thru 12 hoops. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-09 09:48 -0700
                    Re: Simple Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without Apple restrictions - instead of jumping thru 12 hoops. Bill Powell <bill@anarchists.org> - 2025-04-10 12:03 +0200
                      Re: Simple Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without Apple restrictions - instead of jumping thru 12 hoops. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-10 10:15 -0700
                        Re: Simple Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without Apple restrictions - instead of jumping thru 12 hoops. Bill Powell <bill@anarchists.org> - 2025-04-10 22:41 +0200
                          Re: Simple Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without Apple restrictions - instead of jumping thru 12 hoops. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-10 13:45 -0700
                          Re: Simple Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without Apple restrictions - instead of jumping thru 12 hoops. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-11 15:52 +0000
                            Re: Simple Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without Apple restrictions - instead of jumping thru 12 hoops. Bill Powell <bill@anarchists.org> - 2025-04-11 21:16 +0200
                              Re: Simple Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without Apple restrictions - instead of jumping thru 12 hoops. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-11 13:35 -0700
                                Re: Simple Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without Apple restrictions - instead of jumping thru 12 hoops. Bill Powell <bill@anarchists.org> - 2025-04-12 03:22 +0200
                                  Re: Simple Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without Apple restrictions - instead of jumping thru 12 hoops. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-11 18:28 -0700
                                  Re: Simple Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without Apple restrictions - instead of jumping thru 12 hoops. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-12 12:31 -0700
                                  Re: Simple Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without Apple restrictions - instead of jumping thru 12 hoops. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-14 03:36 +0000
                              Re: Simple Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without Apple restrictions - instead of jumping thru 12 hoops. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-14 03:35 +0000
          Re: Simple Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without Apple restrictions - instead of jumping thru 12 hoops. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-07 00:39 +0000
            Re: Simple Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without Apple restrictions - instead of jumping thru 12 hoops. Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-07 03:54 +0000
              Re: Simple Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without Apple restrictions - instead of jumping thru 12 hoops. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-07 02:16 -0400
                Re: Simple Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without Apple restrictions - instead of jumping thru 12 hoops. Enrico Papaloma <enrico@papaloma.net> - 2025-04-07 08:53 +0200
                  Re: Simple Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without Apple restrictions - instead of jumping thru 12 hoops. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-07 03:11 -0400
                    Re: Simple Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without Apple restrictions - instead of jumping thru 12 hoops. Enrico Papaloma <enrico@papaloma.net> - 2025-04-07 09:33 +0200
                  Re: Simple Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without Apple restrictions - instead of jumping thru 12 hoops. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-09 09:51 -0700
                    Re: Simple Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without Apple restrictions - instead of jumping thru 12 hoops. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-10 05:08 +0000
                Re: Simple Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without Apple restrictions - instead of jumping thru 12 hoops. Isaac Montara <IsaacMontara@nospam.com> - 2025-04-07 03:02 -0400
                  Re: Simple Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without Apple restrictions - instead of jumping thru 12 hoops. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-07 03:15 -0400
                    Re: Simple Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without Apple restrictions - instead of jumping thru 12 hoops. Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-07 07:51 +0000
                      Re: Simple Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without Apple restrictions - instead of jumping thru 12 hoops. Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-07 09:49 +0000
                  Re: Simple Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without Apple restrictions - instead of jumping thru 12 hoops. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-09 09:52 -0700
          Re: Simple Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without Apple restrictions - instead of jumping thru 12 hoops. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-09 09:46 -0700
          Re: Simple Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without Apple restrictions - instead of jumping thru 12 hoops. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-09 10:09 -0700
    Re: Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-07 09:24 +0000

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#183273 — Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions

FromMarion <marion@facts.com>
Date2025-04-06 10:26 +0000
SubjectTutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions
Message-ID<vstkt5$14ar$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions

  HFS is a free single-executable very small HTML server for Windows.
  HFS does not need a login account or the Internet to transfer files.
  HFS uses only the local Wi-Fi (LAN) network.
  HFS does not require creating any online accounts or logins.
  HFS leverages any browser on iOS to share files with iOS devices.
  Therefore HFS bypasses Apple's arbitrary file-transfer restrictions.
  There is no need for iTunes, iCloud, Apple Mobile Devices, etc.

Set up a Windows HFS server so any iOS browser can get files from a PC.
1. Download the HFS file server installer.
   <https://sourceforge.net/projects/hfs/>
   Name: hfs2.3m.zip
   Size: 947592 bytes (925 KiB)
   SHA256: 5B99A22785D90BE6CB39C58E59C89514CC394152AD0BC83FDB5F56A7AD08E05E
2. When extracted, there is only a single file in the archive:
   Name: hfs.exe
   Size: 2171904 bytes (2121 KiB)
   SHA256: E678899D7EA9702184167B56655F91A69F8A0BDC9DF65612762252C053C2CD7C
3. Doubleclick on hfs.exe in the Windows file explorer
   I put it here: C:\app\servers\hfs\hfs.exe
4. Look for the "Virtual File System" pane in the HFS GUI
5. Drag and drop your photos into this VFS section.
   Clipboard_04-05-2025_01.jpg
   Clipboard_04-05-2025_02.jpg
6. HFS shows the local IP address in the "Address" field at the top
   http://192.168.0.2/Clipboard_04-05-2025_01.jpg
   http://192.168.0.2/Clipboard_04-05-2025_02.jpg
7. You'll have to let HFS through the Windows firewall.
   First, figure out if your LAN is considered public or private
   Win+I > Network & Internet > {Ethernet/Wi-Fi} > Network profile
   Win+R > firewall.cpl
   Find hfs.exe in "Windows Defender Firewall" > "Allowed apps" 
   Set either "Private" or "Public" to be checked (allowed)
8. Since iOS has a miserable underscore/dash keyboard, rename the files
   (right click on them inside the HFS GUI & rename to pic1.jpg, pic2.jpg)
9. Check the iPad is connected to the same Wi-Fi network as the Windows PC
   Find the iPad IP address in Settings > Wi-Fi > (i) > IP Address
   Win+R > cmd > C:\> ping 192.168.0.3
10. Open any web browser on the iPad, e.g., Safari 
11. Enter those URLs 
    http://192.168.0.2/pic1.jpg
    http://192.168.0.2/pic2.jpg
12. Then use the browser GUI to "Save to Files" or "Save Image"

Now other Apple iOS apps can access those images from your DCIM folder,
(or from wherever the browser put them, e.g., the Downloads folder).

As always, please improve so that billions of people benefit from 
every post you make, which is why we all should learn from each other.
-- 
As folks already know, Apple products don't work in the real world because
Apple restricts people to the subterranean cave called the ecosystem; but
there are ways to tunnel from Apple ecosystem to get into the real world.

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#183282

FromEd Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk>
Date2025-04-06 15:09 +0100
Message-ID<vsu1v7$165m1$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#183273
Marion wrote:
> Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions
> 
>    HFS is a free single-executable very small HTML server for Windows.
>    HFS does not need a login account or the Internet to transfer files.
>    HFS uses only the local Wi-Fi (LAN) network.
>    HFS does not require creating any online accounts or logins.
>    HFS leverages any browser on iOS to share files with iOS devices.
>    Therefore HFS bypasses Apple's arbitrary file-transfer restrictions.
>    There is no need for iTunes, iCloud, Apple Mobile Devices, etc.
> 
> Set up a Windows HFS server so any iOS browser can get files from a PC.
> 1. Download the HFS file server installer.
>     <https://sourceforge.net/projects/hfs/>
>     Name: hfs2.3m.zip
>     Size: 947592 bytes (925 KiB)
>     SHA256: 5B99A22785D90BE6CB39C58E59C89514CC394152AD0BC83FDB5F56A7AD08E05E
> 2. When extracted, there is only a single file in the archive:
>     Name: hfs.exe
>     Size: 2171904 bytes (2121 KiB)
>     SHA256: E678899D7EA9702184167B56655F91A69F8A0BDC9DF65612762252C053C2CD7C
> 3. Doubleclick on hfs.exe in the Windows file explorer
>     I put it here: C:\app\servers\hfs\hfs.exe
> 4. Look for the "Virtual File System" pane in the HFS GUI
> 5. Drag and drop your photos into this VFS section.
>     Clipboard_04-05-2025_01.jpg
>     Clipboard_04-05-2025_02.jpg
> 6. HFS shows the local IP address in the "Address" field at the top
>     http://192.168.0.2/Clipboard_04-05-2025_01.jpg
>     http://192.168.0.2/Clipboard_04-05-2025_02.jpg
> 7. You'll have to let HFS through the Windows firewall.
>     First, figure out if your LAN is considered public or private
>     Win+I > Network & Internet > {Ethernet/Wi-Fi} > Network profile
>     Win+R > firewall.cpl
>     Find hfs.exe in "Windows Defender Firewall" > "Allowed apps"
>     Set either "Private" or "Public" to be checked (allowed)
> 8. Since iOS has a miserable underscore/dash keyboard, rename the files
>     (right click on them inside the HFS GUI & rename to pic1.jpg, pic2.jpg)
> 9. Check the iPad is connected to the same Wi-Fi network as the Windows PC
>     Find the iPad IP address in Settings > Wi-Fi > (i) > IP Address
>     Win+R > cmd > C:\> ping 192.168.0.3
> 10. Open any web browser on the iPad, e.g., Safari
> 11. Enter those URLs
>      http://192.168.0.2/pic1.jpg
>      http://192.168.0.2/pic2.jpg
> 12. Then use the browser GUI to "Save to Files" or "Save Image"
> 
> Now other Apple iOS apps can access those images from your DCIM folder,
> (or from wherever the browser put them, e.g., the Downloads folder).
> 
> As always, please improve so that billions of people benefit from
> every post you make, which is why we all should learn from each other.

Such a trip around the houses, and then 12 steps.

Why not this?

1. Use iTunes.

Ed

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#183287

FromMarion <marion@facts.com>
Date2025-04-06 20:30 +0000
Message-ID<vsuo8o$1vs5$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#183282
On Sun, 6 Apr 2025 15:09:26 +0100, Ed Cryer wrote :


> Such a trip around the houses, and then 12 steps.

Red herring. Well-known Apple trolls like Ed Cryer are so desperate to
defend Apple's clusterfuck solutions that they claim *this* is 12 steps! 

  1. *Use HFS.*

> Why not this?
 
I wonder if you realize that Apple has never tested iTunes which is why
there are more zero-day holes in iTunes than almost any other software.

We proved long ago on the Windows newsgroup that you have *more*
functionality without the iTunes abomination installed, than with it!

This is WITHOUT the iTunes abomination installed on Windows 10.
1. This is the version of SharePod that I used on Windows 10:
   <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ipod001.jpg>
2. The SharePod interface gives you unrestricted access to MP3 files:
   <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ipod002.jpg>
3. Here we batch copy (& rename) files from iPod to Windows 10:
   <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ipod003.jpg>
4. Resulting in an organized archive of all files on any number of iPods:
   <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ipod004.jpg>
5. Populate the iPod by syncing with any number of Windows MP3 files:
   <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ipod005.jpg>
6. If desired, the ID3 tags can all be batch organized to your liking:
   <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ipod006.jpg>
7. With the result that you have unrestricted access to your iPod:
   <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ipod007.jpg>

All that breaks the instant you install the iTunes bloatware abomination.
 <https://i.postimg.cc/fRtZFGSt/sharepod01.jpg> itunes breaks everything

> 1. Use iTunes.

Clearly you have no idea what an AppleID is if you make that crazy claim.

Just as clearly you've never installed iTunes on a Windows computer if you
think that installing & using the iTunes abomination is a single step.

Clearly you've never heard of the astoundingly huge amount of completely
untested bloatware abominations which infect the Apple iTunes abomination.

iTunes Application: 
This is the core program used for managing your media library, accessing
the iTunes Store, and syncing with Apple devices.

Apple Application Support (32-bit and 64-bit): 
These are framework components that are required by iTunes and other Apple
software installed on your computer.

Apple Mobile Device Support: 
This component provides the necessary drivers and services for your Windows
computer to communicate with your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch. It's
essential for syncing and managing your devices.

Bonjour Service: 
This is Apple's implementation of Zero-configuration Networking (Zeroconf),
which enables automatic discovery of devices and services on a local
network. It's used for features like iTunes library sharing and AirPlay.
Some users might not need this if they don't use these features.
Apple Software Update: This utility automatically checks for and installs
updates for Apple software on your Windows PC. Some users find its
notifications intrusive.

iTunesHelper.exe: 
This is a background process that can automatically launch iTunes when you
connect an Apple device.

QTTask.exe: 
This is a QuickTime-related background process. Even though QuickTime for
Windows is no longer officially supported by Apple with security updates,
some older iTunes versions might have installed components related to it.

Hell, thank your lucky stars at least Apple removed the QuickTime
abomination from the untested Windows iTunes bloatware abomination.
 <https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/8kz7v1/how_to_install_itunes_without_bloatware_in/?rdt=33872>
-- 
The Apple trolls hate that Apple provided them the clusterfuck that iTunes
is, where even Apple has sworn off support for iTunes many years ago!

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#183293

FromLarry Wolff <larrywolff@larrywolff.net>
Date2025-04-06 18:39 -0400
Message-ID<f7bf373e06edc2e74de5404db0963830a9e332ee@novabbs.org>
In reply to#183287
On 4/6/2025 8:30 PM, Marion wrote:

> Clearly you've never heard of the astoundingly huge amount of completely
> untested bloatware abominations which infect the Apple iTunes abomination.

Apple stopped testing iTunes years ago, and doesn't even claim it still
works. Apple replaced it on Windows with a smaller less-bloated product.

Apple Mobile Device Support provides the necessary drivers to allow your
iOS device to be recognized by your Windows PC for basic file transfers.

But Apple Mobile Device Support is not native on Windows and screws it up.

Even Apple Devices Installer isn't native to Windows but at least it's a
much less bloated and hence more direct way to get those same Apple Mobile
Device Support drivers without the unnecessary bloat of Windows iTunes.

Unfortunately, Apple doesn't offer a dedicated standalone installer just
for the Apple Mobile Device Support drivers outside of iTunes, so Apple
Devices Installer is usually distributed through a third-party source. 

Since that means it's not an official Apple release, here is a link to
Apple's official page that explains how to get the Apple Mobile Device
Support (which is part of the process when you install iTunes)

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204095

Be aware that it's way more than a dozen steps to get what you'll need.
Nothing using Apple products with Windows will ever be only one step.

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#183294

FromTyrone <none@none.none>
Date2025-04-06 22:45 +0000
Message-ID<J8GdnUJdA9xunm76nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@supernews.com>
In reply to#183293
On Apr 6, 2025 at 6:39:49 PM EDT, "Larry Wolff" <larrywolff@larrywolff.net>
wrote:

> Be aware that it's way more than a dozen steps to get what you'll need.
> Nothing using Apple products with Windows will ever be only one step.

The Files app on iPhone/iPad works fine for this. You connect to Windows
shared drives/folders/whatever.  Copy and paste whatever you need. 

Am I the only person on the planet who knows this?

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#183296

From"Jan K." <janicekoziol@nie.ma.spamu.prosze.com>
Date2025-04-06 23:38 +0000
Message-ID<vsv39g$p76$1@news.chmurka.net>
In reply to#183294
W Sun, 06 Apr 2025 22:45:07 +0000, Tyrone napisal:

>> Be aware that it's way more than a dozen steps to get what you'll need.
>> Nothing using Apple products with Windows will ever be only one step.
> 
> The Files app on iPhone/iPad works fine for this. You connect to Windows
> shared drives/folders/whatever.  Copy and paste whatever you need. 
> 
> Am I the only person on the planet who knows this?

What Tyrone is talking about are the steps to set up SMB (File Sharing) on 
Windows to then use native SMB file sharing to get the files over to iOS.

First you need to know your Windows PC ip address. 192.168.1.whatever.
Then you need to enable File Sharing on Windows by going to the 
Control Panel > Network and Sharing Center > Change advanced sharing 
settings > Turn on File and Printer Sharing > then right-click the folder 
you want to share and select Properties > Sharing > Advanced Sharing > 
Share this folder.

Note the PC name or IP address (e.g., 192.168.1.whatever) and the shared 
folder path \\pcname\sharename.

To access the Windows shared folder on iOS, Open the Files app on your 
iPhone or iPad. Tap Browse at the bottom, then tap three dots at the 
top-right and select Connect to Server (for example 192.168.1.whatever).

Enter the network address of the shared folder, for example 
smb://192.168.1.whatever/shared_folder_name. You will be prompted for a 
username and password. But most of the time this will fail with the error 
of "The operation couldn't be completed. Invalid argument." which is common 
because the Apple software can't conceive of a person having no password.

The only way around Apple's requirement that every user on Windows has a 
password is to create an account just so that you can transfer files to iOS 
(which is absurd but it's how Apple tells Windows users what to do).

Once you've created a dedicated extra Windows account just for the iOS file 
transfers, your iOS device will be able to see the shared files on your 
Windows PC. You can then copy files from your PC to the Files app on your 
iPhone or iPad directly but only if you first copy them into the shared 
folder.

If you don't want to go through the extra steps to create a specific 
account for Apple iOS devices to use, you can just enable the insecure 
guest account on Windows, and the Apple Files app is happy to use it.

But then you'll get the error message inside the iOS Files app of "Content 
Unavailable. The folder contents could not be displayed because you don't 
have permission to see its contents. Try again." 

This method uses SMB to transfer files locally over your Wi-Fi network, 
completely bypassing the need for USB cables, iTunes, or other apps. It's 
fast, free, and doesn't require additional software. It also works for a 
variety of file types (such as images, documents, videos, etc.). But it 
means you have to have a guest account or an account with a password to use 
it. In reality, you're better off using a dedicated SMB client on iOS.

And it's a lot more than just one step. 

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#183303

FromTyrone <none@none.none>
Date2025-04-07 03:43 +0000
Message-ID<V8-dnfzKEb5t1G76nZ2dnZfqn_EAAAAA@supernews.com>
In reply to#183296
On Apr 6, 2025 at 7:38:25 PM EDT, ""Jan K.""
<janicekoziol@nie.ma.spamu.prosze.com> wrote:

> W Sun, 06 Apr 2025 22:45:07 +0000, Tyrone napisal:
> 
>>> Be aware that it's way more than a dozen steps to get what you'll need.
>>> Nothing using Apple products with Windows will ever be only one step.
>> 
>> The Files app on iPhone/iPad works fine for this. You connect to Windows
>> shared drives/folders/whatever.  Copy and paste whatever you need.
>> 
>> Am I the only person on the planet who knows this?
> 
> What Tyrone is talking about are the steps to set up SMB (File Sharing) on
> Windows to then use native SMB file sharing to get the files over to iOS.
> 
> First you need to know your Windows PC ip address. 192.168.1.whatever.
> Then you need to enable File Sharing on Windows by going to the
> Control Panel > Network and Sharing Center > Change advanced sharing
> settings > Turn on File and Printer Sharing > then right-click the folder
> you want to share and select Properties > Sharing > Advanced Sharing >
> Share this folder.
> 
> Note the PC name or IP address (e.g., 192.168.1.whatever) and the shared
> folder path \\pcname\sharename.
> 
> To access the Windows shared folder on iOS, Open the Files app on your
> iPhone or iPad. Tap Browse at the bottom, then tap three dots at the
> top-right and select Connect to Server (for example 192.168.1.whatever).
> 
> Enter the network address of the shared folder, for example
> smb://192.168.1.whatever/shared_folder_name. You will be prompted for a
> username and password. But most of the time this will fail with the error
> of "The operation couldn't be completed. Invalid argument." which is common
> because the Apple software can't conceive of a person having no password.
> 
> The only way around Apple's requirement that every user on Windows has a
> password is to create an account just so that you can transfer files to iOS
> (which is absurd but it's how Apple tells Windows users what to do).
> 
> Once you've created a dedicated extra Windows account just for the iOS file
> transfers, your iOS device will be able to see the shared files on your
> Windows PC. You can then copy files from your PC to the Files app on your
> iPhone or iPad directly but only if you first copy them into the shared
> folder.
> 
> If you don't want to go through the extra steps to create a specific
> account for Apple iOS devices to use, you can just enable the insecure
> guest account on Windows, and the Apple Files app is happy to use it.
> 
> But then you'll get the error message inside the iOS Files app of "Content
> Unavailable. The folder contents could not be displayed because you don't
> have permission to see its contents. Try again."
> 
> This method uses SMB to transfer files locally over your Wi-Fi network,
> completely bypassing the need for USB cables, iTunes, or other apps. It's
> fast, free, and doesn't require additional software. It also works for a
> variety of file types (such as images, documents, videos, etc.). But it
> means you have to have a guest account or an account with a password to use
> it. In reality, you're better off using a dedicated SMB client on iOS.
> 
> And it's a lot more than just one step.

Yeah, its 2 steps.  (1) Share the drive in question.  (2) Connect to the drive
in the Files app. 

Done.

Once the Windows drive is shared, future file transfers are 1 step.

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#183320

FromMarion <marion@facts.com>
Date2025-04-07 11:13 +0000
Message-ID<vt0c1b$hav$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#183303
On Mon, 07 Apr 2025 03:43:44 +0000, Tyrone wrote :


> Yeah, its 2 steps.  (1) Share the drive in question.  (2) Connect to the drive
> in the Files app. 
> 
> Done.
> 
> Once the Windows drive is shared, future file transfers are 1 step.

In nospam's argument, Files is the SMB client. Windows is the SMB server.
The main problem with SMB is that it's an old klunky kludgy protocol.

SMB has all sorts of issues, some of which is that you have to deal with
sharing and that there are insecurities involved and that you must have a
password on your accounts and you have to set up the Files app as a client
and that it has to be added to the other platforms (e.g., Samba on Linux).

On Android, you can't even install an SMB server because, without rooting,
you're not allowed to use ports below 1024, so SMB servers are impossible.

On Linux, it's easier since Samba works nicely, but still, you have to add
it and configure it and maintain it (not that it's hard to maintain Samba).

I don't know if the mac still needs the idiotic Columbia Appletalk Protocol
to work with SMB (probably not now, since the mac is now Linux based), but
then you have to deal with the Apple data fork & resource fork craziness.

In other words, the problem with SMB is that it's a cumbersome protocol
when HTTPS is a much better protocol in terms of using it on all platforms.

One advantage of HTTPS is that each device on each platform can instantly
assume the role of a server when sending files & folders, and they switch
instantly to assume the role of a client when receiving files & folders. 

Here's the simplified process:
 Step 1. Install LocalSend on all platforms.
 Step 2. Send files & folders bidirectionally between all platforms.

What could be better'n that?
 *Tutorial: How to send files between any OS over the LAN using LocalSend*
 <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=86116&group=alt.comp.os.windows-10#86116>
-- 
The Apple trolls live in the Platonic subterranean world discussed by 
Socrates and Glaucon where they don't know that the real world even exists.

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#183429

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2025-04-09 09:54 -0700
Message-ID<vt68oc$vgst$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#183320
On 2025-04-07 04:13, Marion wrote:
> On Mon, 07 Apr 2025 03:43:44 +0000, Tyrone wrote :
> 
> 
>> Yeah, its 2 steps.  (1) Share the drive in question.  (2) Connect to the drive
>> in the Files app.
>>
>> Done.
>>
>> Once the Windows drive is shared, future file transfers are 1 step.
> 
> In nospam's argument, Files is the SMB client. Windows is the SMB server.
> The main problem with SMB is that it's an old klunky kludgy protocol.
> 
> SMB has all sorts of issues, some of which is that you have to deal with
> sharing and that there are insecurities involved and that you must have a
> password on your accounts and you have to set up the Files app as a client
> and that it has to be added to the other platforms (e.g., Samba on Linux).
> 
> On Android, you can't even install an SMB server because, without rooting,
> you're not allowed to use ports below 1024, so SMB servers are impossible.
> 
> On Linux, it's easier since Samba works nicely, but still, you have to add
> it and configure it and maintain it (not that it's hard to maintain Samba).
> 
> I don't know if the mac still needs the idiotic Columbia Appletalk Protocol
> to work with SMB (probably not now, since the mac is now Linux based), but
> then you have to deal with the Apple data fork & resource fork craziness.
> 
> In other words, the problem with SMB is that it's a cumbersome protocol
> when HTTPS is a much better protocol in terms of using it on all platforms.
> 
> One advantage of HTTPS is that each device on each platform can instantly
> assume the role of a server when sending files & folders, and they switch
> instantly to assume the role of a client when receiving files & folders.
> 
> Here's the simplified process:
>   Step 1. Install LocalSend on all platforms.
>   Step 2. Send files & folders bidirectionally between all platforms.
> 
> What could be better'n that?
>   *Tutorial: How to send files between any OS over the LAN using LocalSend*
>   <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=86116&group=alt.comp.os.windows-10#86116>

Translation:

"I need to make this easy and obvious solution that requires no 
installation of any additional software on iOS or Windows sound ominous".

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#183314

Fromwasbit <wasbit@REMOVEhotmail.com>
Date2025-04-07 09:55 +0100
Message-ID<vt03ug$3c13r$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#183294
On 06/04/2025 23:45, Tyrone wrote:
> On Apr 6, 2025 at 6:39:49 PM EDT, "Larry Wolff" <larrywolff@larrywolff.net>
> wrote:
> 
>> Be aware that it's way more than a dozen steps to get what you'll need.
>> Nothing using Apple products with Windows will ever be only one step.
> 
> The Files app on iPhone/iPad works fine for this. You connect to Windows
> shared drives/folders/whatever.  Copy and paste whatever you need.
> 
> Am I the only person on the planet who knows this?
> 

Requires a Windows Microsoft account.
Won't work with a local account with no password.


-- 
Regards
wasbit

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#183326

FromFrank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Date2025-04-07 14:46 +0000
Message-ID<vt0vgb.p88.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>
In reply to#183314
[Newsgroups restored. Don't remove newsgroups, but if you do, say so.]

wasbit <wasbit@removehotmail.com> wrote:
> On 06/04/2025 23:45, Tyrone wrote:
> > On Apr 6, 2025 at 6:39:49?PM EDT, "Larry Wolff" <larrywolff@larrywolff.net>
> > wrote:
> > 
> >> Be aware that it's way more than a dozen steps to get what you'll need.
> >> Nothing using Apple products with Windows will ever be only one step.
> > 
> > The Files app on iPhone/iPad works fine for this. You connect to Windows
> > shared drives/folders/whatever.  Copy and paste whatever you need.
> > 
> > Am I the only person on the planet who knows this?
> 
> Requires a Windows Microsoft account.
> Won't work with a local account with no password.

  As a Microsoft Account is required, I thought about suggesting
the Windows 'Phone Link' app. But for the iPhone it apparently can not
show/copy photos, which it can for an Android phone.

'Easier to sync your PC and phone'
<https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/sync-across-your-devices>

  N.B. Rather strange that the Android section of this page had ads for
*Samsung* laptops! What happened to the Microsoft ones (Surface)?

  Question to the OP ('Marion'): Have you tried a PTP (Picture Transfer
Protocol) connection to the DCIM-equivalent of the iPhone? AFAIK, you
can get photos from an iPhone that way. Unless their PTP implementation
is 'unusual', you probably can also put photos on an iPhone that way.

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#183327

FromFrank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Date2025-04-07 15:40 +0000
Message-ID<vt127u.oqc.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>
In reply to#183326
Earlier, I wrote:
[...]

>   As a Microsoft Account is required, I thought about suggesting
> the Windows 'Phone Link' app. But for the iPhone it apparently can not
> show/copy photos, which it can for an Android phone.
> 
> 'Easier to sync your PC and phone'
> <https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/sync-across-your-devices>

  However, this article says that one *can* "transfer files from your PC
to your iPhone" with the Microsoft Phone Link app:

'Transfer Files from PC to iPhone Without iTunes'
<https://www.airdroid.com/file-transfer/transfer-files-from-pc-to-iphone-without-itunes/>

"Microsoft Phone Link
 ...
 Step 5: Now you can view the notifications and also transfer files from
	 your PC to your iPhone."

  And - as I suggested in my earlier response - it also says you can use
an USB cable "to transfer files from PC to iPhone", but the instructions
are a bit vague/confusing.

[...]

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#183328

From"Alan K." <alan@invalid.com>
Date2025-04-07 12:03 -0400
Message-ID<vt0t15$4qgu$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#183327
On 4/7/25 11:40 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> Earlier, I wrote:
> [...]
> 
>>    As a Microsoft Account is required, I thought about suggesting
>> the Windows 'Phone Link' app. But for the iPhone it apparently can not
>> show/copy photos, which it can for an Android phone.
>>
>> 'Easier to sync your PC and phone'
>> <https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/sync-across-your-devices>
> 
>    However, this article says that one *can* "transfer files from your PC
> to your iPhone" with the Microsoft Phone Link app:
> 
> 'Transfer Files from PC to iPhone Without iTunes'
> <https://www.airdroid.com/file-transfer/transfer-files-from-pc-to-iphone-without-itunes/>
> 
> "Microsoft Phone Link
>   ...
>   Step 5: Now you can view the notifications and also transfer files from
> 	 your PC to your iPhone."
> 
>    And - as I suggested in my earlier response - it also says you can use
> an USB cable "to transfer files from PC to iPhone", but the instructions
> are a bit vague/confusing.
> 
> [...]
Not sure if this has be mentioned.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.alphainventor.filemanager
File Manager.  It has the ability to become an ftp server.
I use it a lot to move files to my linux or windows pc.

Not sure if there is an IOS version, or if you can access the files you need on IOS.

-- 
Linux Mint 22.1, Cinnamon 6.4.8,  Kernel 6.8.0-57-generic
Thunderbird 128.9.0esr, Mozilla Firefox 137.0
     Alan K.

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#183329

From"Alan K." <alan@invalid.com>
Date2025-04-07 12:04 -0400
Message-ID<vt0t25$4qgu$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#183328
On 4/7/25 12:03 PM, Alan K. wrote:
> Not sure if there is an IOS version, or if you can access the files you need on IOS.
IOS meaning Iphone.

-- 
Linux Mint 22.1, Cinnamon 6.4.8,  Kernel 6.8.0-57-generic
Thunderbird 128.9.0esr, Mozilla Firefox 137.0
     Alan K.

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#183340

FromMarion <marion@facts.com>
Date2025-04-07 22:15 +0000
Message-ID<vt1ipr$2ggo$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#183328
On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 12:03:49 -0400, Alan K. wrote :


> Not sure if this has be mentioned.
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.alphainventor.filemanager
> File Manager.  It has the ability to become an ftp server.
> I use it a lot to move files to my linux or windows pc.
> 
> Not sure if there is an IOS version, or if you can access the files you need on IOS.

Alan K is correct that there are "servers" you can install on the iOS
device which can "push" files to the Windows PC, one of which is an FTP
server, although truth be told, WebDav probably works better nowadays.

Once you install a server on the mobile device, everything changes.
For example, suddenly you can use the Wi-Fi network instead of USB cables.

Each server implementation, e.g., HTTPS, WebDAV, FTP, SMB, ADB, etc., has
different requirements, as do the peer-to-peer solutions we explored.
a. fsquirt bluetooth 
   <https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/administration/windows-commands/windows-commands1   
>
b. SHAREit <https://www.ushareit.com/product/shareit/>
c. Xender <https://www.xender.com/>
d. Feem <https://feem.io/>
etc.

Each server:client protocol allows *different* neat features.

For example, the WebDav servers on Android allow me to mount my entire
Android phone as a drive letter (one for each partition) on Windows.
 <https://i.postimg.cc/BQyRxCN9/webdav11.jpg> Mount sdcards read & write
 <https://i.postimg.cc/yYWwgGmy/webdav12.jpg> As Windows drive letters
 <https://i.postimg.cc/QtbR1GY0/webdav13.jpg> Over Wi-Fi on your home LAN
 <https://i.postimg.cc/gcKXV6F7/webdav16.jpg> A third free WebDAV server

But each server:client protocol also enforce different requirements.

The problem with the Apple trolls only thinking about the SMB client
protocol that their iOS "Files" app uses, is it won't work w/o a passwd.

If you have a password on your local account on your Windows PC, then the
SMB protocol that the Apple trolls keep suggesting, will work just fine to
push a file from the iOS "Files" SMB client to the Windows SMB server.

But even then, the limitations are you have to copy things to the share.

With Paul's suggestion of LocalSend (which uses the HTTPS protocol), you
can push to Windows without those restrictions that SMB enforces.

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#183331

From"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com>
Date2025-04-07 18:41 +0000
Message-ID<xn0p49q8x3pbym000@reader443.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#183327
Frank Slootweg wrote:

>  However, this article says that one can "transfer files from your PC
>to your iPhone" with the Microsoft Phone Link app:
>
>'Transfer Files from PC to iPhone Without iTunes'
><https://www.airdroid.com/file-transfer/transfer-files-from-pc-to-iphone-without-itunes/>
>
>"Microsoft Phone Link
> ...
> Step 5: Now you can view the notifications and also transfer files
>from 	 your PC to your iPhone."


So I gave this a try by setting up the app on my phone and connecting
it by Bluetooth to the laptop.  I've got all the permissions set up but
it's not working for me.  It also has a convoluted way of working
through the actions to share the files.

In this case I must agree with Jolly Roger, Tyrone and whoever else
advocates that the Files app works better.  All I had to do was enter
the IP address for the laptop in the server section, use my Microsoft
account to login from the iPhone to the laptop, and Share a folder on
my laptop.  I can easily move files between both devices.

Considering the iOS method works and it's native to the phone, I will
stick with that.

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#183337

FromMarion <marion@facts.com>
Date2025-04-07 21:45 +0000
Message-ID<vt1h1t$7vm$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#183331
On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 18:41:05 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :


>>"Microsoft Phone Link
>> ...
>> Step 5: Now you can view the notifications and also transfer files
>>from 	 your PC to your iPhone."
> 
> So I gave this a try by setting up the app on my phone and connecting
> it by Bluetooth to the laptop.  I've got all the permissions set up but
> it's not working for me.  It also has a convoluted way of working
> through the actions to share the files.
> 
> In this case I must agree with Jolly Roger, Tyrone and whoever else
> advocates that the Files app works better.  All I had to do was enter
> the IP address for the laptop in the server section, use my Microsoft
> account to login from the iPhone to the laptop, and Share a folder on
> my laptop.  I can easily move files between both devices.
> 
> Considering the iOS method works and it's native to the phone, I will
> stick with that.

We're all working together (except for the Apple trolls) for the benefit of
all of us, as it behooves us to be able to seamlessly transfer files
between all the platforms (where Eli the Bearded had an interesting
LocalSend use model between Androids, without the PC being involved).

In that purposefully-helpful light, I know badgolferman to be a normal
helpful person, well educated, sensible and rational (unlike the Apple
trolls), so what badgolferman says he did between his iPhone and his PC, I
believe it happened as he said it did. Files "can" send files to the PC.

However, I need to make the extremely crucial point that you can jump off
of a moving horse relatively easily but it's much harder to get back on.

Sure, you can jump back on (and just as surely, people do it), but you have
to have everything aligned to jump back onto that moving horse, right?

The point being the problem was never how to get files from the iOS device
to the PC, but to push the files from the PC onto the iOS device.

In the case of Paul's excellent suggestion of LocalSend, the push and pull
work seamlessly together, such that the flow is bidirectionally easy.

A push is no different than a pull with LocalSend; but with the Files
command, a push and a pull are completely different tasks.

Let's take the push, since we're trying to push an iOS file to the Windows
PC using the iOS Files program using smb://<Computer Name>/<Share Name>

The problem badgolferman is likely unaware of when he claims "it works for
me", is that he very likely has a password on his user account on the PC.

I do not. Hence, SMB doesn't work. 

That is, to use "smb://192.168.1.100/SharedDocs", SMB requires you to
create an account on the PC which has a username & a password.

The difference with LocalSend is that it does NOT need that username &
password, which, I think, may be what wasbit might have been alluding to.

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#183338

FromMarion <marion@facts.com>
Date2025-04-07 21:50 +0000
Message-ID<vt1hb9$20g9$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#183337
On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 21:45:33 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote :


> Let's take the push, since we're trying to push an iOS file to the Windows
> PC using the iOS Files program using smb://<Computer Name>/<Share Name>
> 
> The problem badgolferman is likely unaware of when he claims "it works for
> me", is that he very likely has a password on his user account on the PC.
> 
> I do not. Hence, SMB doesn't work.

Drat. The above first line is a misjumbled thinko, so I correct it below... 

 Let's take the pull, since we're trying to pull an iOS file to the Windows
 PC using the iOS 'Files' program using smb://<Computer Name>/<Share Name>
 
 The problem badgolferman is likely unaware of when he claims "it works for
 me", is that he very likely has a password on his user account on the PC.
 
 I do not. Hence, SMB doesn't work (in that direction from iOS to the PC).

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#183352

FromMarion <marion@facts.com>
Date2025-04-08 07:43 +0000
Message-ID<vt2k2f$266u$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#183338
On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 21:50:34 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote :


>  I do not. Hence, SMB doesn't work (in that direction from iOS to the PC).

Aurgh. I keep writing it wrong(ly). Let me say it simpler... 

  The problem isn't getting files _off_ of iOS.
  *The problem is getting files _ON_ to iOS.*

In fact, without an account involved, it's damn near impossible to get 
files from the PC to iOS (which is what started this quest after all).

And it's far 'more impossible' to go from Android to iOS.
Interestingly, it's just as impossible to go from one iOS to another iOS.

But with Paul's suggestion of using LocalSend on all devices, what 
previously was 'damn near impossible'... is ... suddenly... trivial.

Woo hoo! 

Thanks Paul for suggesting LocalSend.
 Thanks wasbit for pointing out the SMB login requirements.
 Thanks Elijah for providing a device-to-device LocalSend use model.
 Thanks badgolferman for testing out the iOS Files SMB:// mechanism.
 Thanks Frank for testing the Microsoft Phone Link method.
 Thanks Char Jackson for explaining the SMB local account requirement.
 et al.

We're all working together to make cross platform copying trivial.

Since every thread should make it easier for everyone else, links are below:
Android:
 <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.localsend.localsend_app>
 <https://f-droid.org/de/packages/org.localsend.localsend_app/>
 <https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BW6MP732>
 <https://github.com/localsend/localsend/releases/download/v1.17.0/LocalSend-1.17.0-android-arm64v8.apk>
 <https://localsend.org/download?os=android>
iOS:
 <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/localsend/id1661733229>
Windows:
 <https://localsend.org/download?os=windows>
Linux:
 <https://localsend.org/download?os=linux>
macOS:
 <https://localsend.org/download?os=macos>

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#183442

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2025-04-09 13:36 -0700
Message-ID<vt6loc$1dhd9$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#183352
On 2025-04-08 00:43, Marion wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 21:50:34 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote :
> 
> 
>>   I do not. Hence, SMB doesn't work (in that direction from iOS to the PC).
> 
> Aurgh. I keep writing it wrong(ly). Let me say it simpler...
> 
>    The problem isn't getting files _off_ of iOS.
>    *The problem is getting files _ON_ to iOS.*

Nope. SMB makes that simple.

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