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  Re: what is the fastest command line copy? Dual Boot Windows <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-31 02:12 +0100
    Re: what is the fastest command line copy? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-03-31 04:43 +0200
      Re: what is the fastest command line copy? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-31 00:47 -0400
        Re: what is the fastest command line copy? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-03-31 11:06 +0200
        Re: what is the fastest command line copy? Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2025-03-31 12:10 -0700
        Re: what is the fastest command line copy? "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2025-04-01 18:56 -0400
      Re: what is the fastest command line copy? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-31 08:21 -0400
        Re: what is the fastest command line copy? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-03-31 15:47 +0200
          Re: what is the fastest command line copy? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-31 10:54 -0400
            Re: what is the fastest command line copy? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-03-31 15:59 +0100
            Re: what is the fastest command line copy? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-03-31 17:32 +0200
            Re: what is the fastest command line copy? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-04-01 07:00 +0200
              Re: what is the fastest command line copy? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-04-01 09:11 +0200
              Re: what is the fastest command line copy? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-01 03:44 -0400
              Re: what is the fastest command line copy? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-01 09:26 -0400
                Re: what is the fastest command line copy? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-04-02 08:50 +0200
                  Re: what is the fastest command line copy? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-02 04:15 -0400
                    Re: what is the fastest command line copy? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-04-02 10:35 +0200
                      Re: what is the fastest command line copy? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-02 05:54 -0400
                        Re: what is the fastest command line copy? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-04-02 16:15 +0200
                          Re: what is the fastest command line copy? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-02 11:40 -0400
                            Re: what is the fastest command line copy? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-04-02 18:13 +0200
                              Re: what is the fastest command line copy? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-02 12:41 -0400
                                Re: what is the fastest command line copy? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-04-02 20:27 +0200
                                  Re: what is the fastest command line copy? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-03 03:22 -0400
                                    Re: what is the fastest command line copy? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-04-03 13:10 +0200
                      Re: what is the fastest command line copy? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-02 07:57 -0400
                        Re: what is the fastest command line copy? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-04-02 16:19 +0200
                          Re: what is the fastest command line copy? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-02 11:04 -0400
                            Re: what is the fastest command line copy? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-02 12:04 -0400
                            Re: what is the fastest command line copy? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-04-02 18:06 +0200
                    Re: what is the fastest command line copy? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-02 12:41 +0000
                      Re: what is the fastest command line copy? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-02 12:15 -0400
                        Re: what is the fastest command line copy? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-02 17:36 +0000
                    Re: what is the fastest command line copy? Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2025-04-02 10:50 -0700
                    Re: what is the fastest command line copy? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-04-03 05:24 +0200
                      Re: what is the fastest command line copy? Democrat <Democrat@invalid.invalid> - 2025-04-03 06:00 +0000
                        Re: what is the fastest command line copy? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-04-03 08:39 +0200
                        Re: what is the fastest command line copy? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-04-03 15:55 +0200
                          Re: what is the fastest command line copy? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-03 15:06 +0000
                            Re: what is the fastest command line copy? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-04-04 13:55 +0200
                              Re: what is the fastest command line copy? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-04 12:11 +0000
                                Re: what is the fastest command line copy? Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> - 2025-04-04 10:32 -0700
                                Re: what is the fastest command line copy? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-04-05 05:20 +0200
                                  Re: what is the fastest command line copy? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-04-05 00:44 -0700
                                  Re: what is the fastest command line copy? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-06 20:20 +1000
                                    Re: what is the fastest command line copy? "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-04-06 21:15 +0100
                              Re: what is the fastest command line copy? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-04 08:49 -0400
                                Re: what is the fastest command line copy? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-04-05 05:29 +0200
                                  Re: what is the fastest command line copy? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-05 08:26 -0400
                                Re: what is the fastest command line copy? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-05 00:37 -0400
                                  Re: what is the fastest command line copy? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-05 08:18 -0400
                          Re: what is the fastest command line copy? Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-04-03 11:00 -0500
                  Re: what is the fastest command line copy? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-02 07:53 -0400
                    Re: what is the fastest command line copy? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-04-02 16:26 +0200
                      Re: what is the fastest command line copy? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-02 11:03 -0400
                        Re: what is the fastest command line copy? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-04-02 18:04 +0200
                        Re: what is the fastest command line copy? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-02 12:36 -0400
                          Re: what is the fastest command line copy? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-02 13:07 -0400
                            Re: what is the fastest command line copy? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-03 04:14 -0400
                              Re: what is the fastest command line copy? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-03 08:40 -0400
                  Re: what is the fastest command line copy? Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2025-04-02 10:43 -0700
                    Re: what is the fastest command line copy? Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-04-02 18:59 -0500
                  Re: what is the fastest command line copy? Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2025-04-02 11:11 -0700
          Re: what is the fastest command line copy? knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-31 10:59 -0400
            Re: what is the fastest command line copy? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-03-31 17:26 +0200
              Re: what is the fastest command line copy? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-31 13:05 -0400
                Re: what is the fastest command line copy? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-03-31 20:18 +0200
                  Re: what is the fastest command line copy? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-31 14:43 -0400
      Re: what is the fastest command line copy? Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2025-03-31 13:40 -0700
    Re: what is the fastest command line copy? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-30 23:03 -0700
    Re: what is the fastest command line copy? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-30 23:43 -0700
    Re: what is the fastest command line copy? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-04-01 02:01 -0700

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#183224

On 4/3/2025 4:14 AM, Paul wrote:

> The OS is chock full of examples of "energy waste working up data
> for progress indicators" and "indicators that were nuts".
> 
> I like the CHKDSK one that says "15 minute remaining" and one
> second later, the command run is finished. Now, that's a progress
> indicator.
> 

   Copy in general shows wacky progress. It seems to be
based on something like file size. Since it changes depending
on the file I'd guess that it's not a case of adding up ythe
total bytes to be copied and dividing by 100. On the other hand,
I'm rarely doing anything that I have to wait for with script.

   For instance, I regularly process my server logs to replace IP
address with hostname and location. I processed free records
from MaxMind, adding location data into an MSI file. (Which is
actually a database. I love MSIs for this kind of thing. They're
very fast and can handle vast data.) So my script will take each
IP make a hostname call through my own component, do a
lookup in the location database, then update the array item in
the array of server log lines. On XP it took several minutes. On
10 it's much faster. (Maybe faster network operations?) But it
really doesn't matter. I'm not waiting for it. I'm doing other things
while it runs.

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#183189

On Wed, 02 Apr 2025 08:50:34 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote:
> I have four batch files:
> 
> dsk2flsh.bat
> flsh2lap.bat
> lap2flsh.bat
> flsh2dsk.bat
> 
> I only have to remember the exact syntax when I make the batch files,
> and after that I I have to remember is the name of the batch file. 

You left out one very big thing to remember: whenever you change 
which files are synched by one of those .bat files, you must remember 
to change the other three. Having to do redundant maintenance is a 
fruitful source of bugs. 

I know, it's your files and you will surely remember to do the extra 
work. It's a pain to do it four times, but probably not a major pain.

Being a fanatic about avoiding duplicate maintenance, I went a 
different way. I have one file (fdrv.btm) for synching all files, and 
a second (usb.btm) for synching just the small subset of files that I 
work on often. Each of those requires an argument /frompc or /topc to 
determine the direction of the copy, and accepts additional options 
like /L. A separate file (robowrap.btm) is called by usb.btm or 
fdrv.btm. It uses /frompc or /topc and other arguments passed by the 
two main files, adds always-used arguments like /XO and the log file, 
calls robocopy, and checks the return status.

-- 
Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA         https://BrownMath.com/
Shikata ga nai...

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#183199

On Wed, 2 Apr 2025 10:43:15 -0700, Stan Brown
<the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote:

>On Wed, 02 Apr 2025 08:50:34 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote:
>> I have four batch files:
>> 
>> dsk2flsh.bat
>> flsh2lap.bat
>> lap2flsh.bat
>> flsh2dsk.bat
>> 
>> I only have to remember the exact syntax when I make the batch files,
>> and after that I I have to remember is the name of the batch file. 
>
>You left out one very big thing to remember: whenever you change 
>which files are synched by one of those .bat files, you must remember 
>to change the other three. Having to do redundant maintenance is a 
>fruitful source of bugs.

Just spit balling, but what if the 4 .bat files read their variables
from a shared .ini file? Edit just the .ini and all of the .bat files
pick up the change.

Or combine the 4 .bat files into one, with a shared header section to
facilitate single-place editing, plus a command line switch to trigger
execution of the proper section.

I just noticed that I repeatedly focused on variables, for some reason.
 

>I know, it's your files and you will surely remember to do the extra 
>work. It's a pain to do it four times, but probably not a major pain.
>
>Being a fanatic about avoiding duplicate maintenance, I went a 
>different way. I have one file (fdrv.btm) for synching all files, and 
>a second (usb.btm) for synching just the small subset of files that I 
>work on often. Each of those requires an argument /frompc or /topc to 
>determine the direction of the copy, and accepts additional options 
>like /L. A separate file (robowrap.btm) is called by usb.btm or 
>fdrv.btm. It uses /frompc or /topc and other arguments passed by the 
>two main files, adds always-used arguments like /XO and the log file, 
>calls robocopy, and checks the return status.

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#183191

On Wed, 02 Apr 2025 08:50:34 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote:
> I have four batch files:
> 
> dsk2flsh.bat
> flsh2lap.bat
> lap2flsh.bat
> flsh2dsk.bat
> 
> I only have to remember the exact syntax when I make the batch files,
> and after that I I have to remember is the name of the batch file. 

When I write a batch file with complicated command-line syntax, I 
always use this pattern:

if "%1" != "/?" goto 000_Start
    :: Display syntax with ECHO commands
    exit

:000_Start
    :: the actual program

That's TCCLE syntax, but you get the idea.

It can be a nuisance to update the help message when I update the 
program arguments(*) but it's also a useful opportunity to look back 
and see if there's a better way to do the job than I knew when I 
wrote the file.

(*) See my rant about duplicate maintenance in
Message-ID: <MPG.4257170d2253240a9903d9@news.individual.net>

-- 
Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA         https://BrownMath.com/
Shikata ga nai...

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#183112

On 03/31/2025 9:47 AM, R.Wieser wrote:
> Newyana2,
> 
>> * Windows doesn't provide an option to only copy
>> over newer files.
> 
> I don't know if Win10 still has XCopy, but it seems that it can do that :
> 
>    /D:m-d-y     Copies files changed on or after the specified date.
>                 If no date is given, copies only those files whose
>                 source time is newer than the destination time.
> 
>> * Windows 10 seems to be faulty, typically not copying a folder that
>> already exists. I have to delete the old folder by hand or the
>> copy/replace doesn't work.
> 
> an ownership problem ?
> 
> Regards,
> Rudy Wieser
> 
> 
I use third party software SyncBackFree:
https://www.2brightsparks.com/downloads.html

It is free for use, and gives you a lot of options to back up you computer.

I have used the free version for over a decade to sync my laptop and 
desktop.    I have also the backup funtion and mirror function on other 
computers.

It is easy to set up what you want done with specific files and folders. 
  It is easy to run to do what you have set up in the program.

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#183114

Knuttle,

> I use third party software SyncBackFree:

Don't tell me.  I wrote my own file-backup program. :-)    (Why ?  Because I 
wanted to know if I could)

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

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#183119

On 3/31/2025 11:26 AM, R.Wieser wrote:
> Knuttle,
> 
>> I use third party software SyncBackFree:
> 
> Don't tell me.  I wrote my own file-backup program. :-)    (Why ?  Because I
> wanted to know if I could)
> 

    I've never really done much of this. You're backing up daily?
I just keep redundant copies on matching disks, store all important
things on a 3 GB partition, then periodically write desktop, appdata
and that partition's content to a DVD. So much is longterm data.
Photos, tech info, reference materials, videos -- none of that
changes, so I just put it on USB sticks once in a while. Along with
disk images, I periodically put copies of all that in a safe deposit
box.

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#183123

Newyana2,

> I've never really done much of this. You're backing up daily?

No, its a monthly thing on that an USB drive.  Though I've got an USB stick 
on which I backup my "high change" (source) files a bit more frequently 
(using vbscript, checking for newer files :-) ).

> So much is longterm data. Photos, tech info, reference materials,

For me its mostly the latter two.  Hence the monthly.

> Along with disk images, I periodically put copies of all that in a safe 
> deposit box.

Following the "a backup on the same 'puter isn't a backup.  A backup stored 
in the same building isn't a backup either" saying I see.  :-)

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

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#183124

On 3/31/2025 2:18 PM, R.Wieser wrote:
> Newyana2,
> 
>> I've never really done much of this. You're backing up daily?
> 
> No, its a monthly thing on that an USB drive.  Though I've got an USB stick
> on which I backup my "high change" (source) files a bit more frequently
> (using vbscript, checking for newer files :-) ).
> 
>> So much is longterm data. Photos, tech info, reference materials,
> 
> For me its mostly the latter two.  Hence the monthly.
> 
>> Along with disk images, I periodically put copies of all that in a safe
>> deposit box.
> 
> Following the "a backup on the same 'puter isn't a backup.  A backup stored
> in the same building isn't a backup either" saying I see.  :-)
> 

    Covering different bases. If I lose it tomorrow, am I prepared?
Pretty much. Though total loss would be a big hassle. Like you I
back up frequently to a stick if I'm working on something. But I'm
very organized, so I don't really check by dates. I deal with
locations.

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#183126

On Mon, 31 Mar 2025 04:43:39 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Mar 2025 02:12:05 +0100, Dual Boot Windows
> <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> 
> > [quoted text muted]
> >users prefer GUI version.
> >
> ><https://fastcopy.jp/>
> >
> 
> Does xcopy/xxcopy still work?
> 
> I want something that works with batch files to automate transfer of
> data files from desktop to laptop & vice versa via USB flash drive.

That's what I use Robocopy for, several times a day, in a batch file 
I call ... usb. (Well, usb.btm, if you want to get technical, since 
I'm using TCCLE as my shell.)

Xcooy is part of the OS, as you could have found by typing
    xcopy /?
on the command line. I've never used it myself.

-- 
Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA         https://BrownMath.com/
Shikata ga nai...

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#183093

On 3/30/25 6:12 PM, Dual Boot Windows wrote:
> On 30/03/2025 00:03, T wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> It use to be robo copy for a mass copy of a
>> directory.  Does that still exist?  Or is
>> there something better?
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> -T
>>
> 
> 
> You can use FastCopy GUI program. It has a cmd line built in but Windows
> users prefer GUI version.
> 
> <https://fastcopy.jp/>


Thank you!

Two follow up questions.

1) Do you know how it handles files with file locks on
them? Will it use the "Shadow" (VSS)?

2) If it find a file with an "issue", will it skip and
complain or will it halt?

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#183094

On 3/30/25 6:12 PM, Dual Boot Windows wrote:
> It has a cmd line built in but Windows
> users prefer GUI version.
> 
> <https://fastcopy.jp/>

https://fastcopy.jp/help/fastcopy_eng.htm#cmdline

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#183138

On 3/30/25 6:12 PM, Dual Boot Windows wrote:
> On 30/03/2025 00:03, T wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> It use to be robo copy for a mass copy of a
>> directory.  Does that still exist?  Or is
>> there something better?
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> -T
>>
> 
> 
> You can use FastCopy GUI program. It has a cmd line built in but Windows
> users prefer GUI version.
> 
> <https://fastcopy.jp/>


I bought a perpetual license.

I took me a bit to figure out the command line,
but afterwards, it works awesome.

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