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  Another dumb question? Re Macrium Jim the Geordie <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> - 2025-02-14 18:05 +0000
    Re: Another dumb question? Re Macrium micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-14 13:18 -0500
    Re: Another dumb question? Re Macrium micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-14 13:34 -0500
      Re: Another dumb question? Re Macrium Jim the Geordie <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> - 2025-02-15 09:56 +0000
        Re: Another dumb question? Re Macrium Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-15 05:43 -0500
          Re: Another dumb question? Re Macrium Jim the Geordie <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> - 2025-02-15 11:51 +0000
            Re: Another dumb question? Re Macrium Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-15 07:07 -0500
        Re: Another dumb question? Re Macrium Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-02-15 11:46 +0000
          Re: Another dumb question? Re Macrium Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-16 16:00 +0000
            Re: Another dumb question? Re Macrium Jim the Geordie <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> - 2025-02-17 00:14 +0000
              Re: Another dumb question? Re Macrium Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-02-16 23:36 -0600
                Re: Another dumb question? Re Macrium Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-02-17 12:38 +0000
                Re: Another dumb question? Re Macrium Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-17 15:03 -0500
              Re: Another dumb question? Re Macrium Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-17 15:27 +0000
                Re: Another dumb question? Re Macrium Jim the Geordie <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> - 2025-02-17 16:09 +0000
                  Re: Another dumb question? Re Macrium Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-17 18:41 +0000
                    Re: Another dumb question? Re Macrium Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-18 15:36 +0000
                      Re: Another dumb question? Re Macrium Jim the Geordie <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> - 2025-02-18 18:25 +0000
        Re: Another dumb question? Re Macrium micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-15 09:44 -0500
          Re: Another dumb question? Re Macrium Jim the Geordie <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> - 2025-02-16 00:53 +0000
            Re: Another dumb question? Re Macrium micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-15 23:38 -0500
        Re: Another dumb question? Re Macrium micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-15 09:52 -0500
          Re: Another dumb question? Re Macrium Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-16 15:36 +0000
          Re: Another dumb question? Re Macrium Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2025-02-16 16:48 +0000
            Re: Another dumb question? Re Macrium micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-16 12:39 -0500
            Re: Another dumb question? Re Macrium Jim the Geordie <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> - 2025-02-17 00:17 +0000
              Re: Another dumb question? Re Macrium wasbit <wasbit@nowhere.com> - 2025-02-17 09:45 +0000
    Re: Another dumb question? Re Macrium Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-14 18:55 +0000
      Re: Another dumb question? Re Macrium Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-14 17:34 -0500
    Re: Another dumb question? Re Macrium "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-02-14 20:57 +0100
      Re: Another dumb question? Re Macrium Jim the Geordie <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> - 2025-02-15 00:37 +0000
        Re: Another dumb question? Re Macrium ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-02-15 03:41 +0000
          Re: Another dumb question? Re Macrium Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-15 03:34 -0500
    Re: Another dumb question? Re Macrium Hello There <hello.there@user.com> - 2025-02-16 17:52 +0000

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#182319

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sun, 16 Feb 2025 00:53:13 +0000, Jim the
Geordie <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:

>
>>> I'm 84 now and can probably stumble on with my Windows 10 in the hope I
>>> pop-my-clogs before it does, but I'd rather have something to do in the
>>> meantime. :)
>> 
>> Do I have clogs too?  Where are they?
>> 
>Clogs=wooden shoes - Yorkshire term for dying :(

I had wooden shoes as a child.  They were too small for me to wear even
then, but they came filled with candy.  I filled them with the foil
wrappers from the chocolate.  I hope I didn't clog my clogs with foil,
but at least I didn't pop them. 
>
><snip>
>

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#182309

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 15 Feb 2025 09:56:18 +0000, Jim the
Geordie <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:

>
>I'm 84 now and can probably stumble on with my Windows 10 in the hope I 
>pop-my-clogs before it does, but I'd rather have something to do in the 
>meantime. :)

The one thing I forgot to say is that win11 has in my opinion and some
others' numerous annoying things, (mostly the taskbar that will no
longer go more than one row high, Of course if our current taskbar is
only one row high, that won't likely matter to you.), and otoh not much
new, and even less that is new that I want.  I had to buy a new laptop,
so I got one with win11, but I would probably be happier with same thing
running win10.   Read my other threads here and read more about what's
wrong with win11. 

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#182335

micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
[...]

> The one thing I forgot to say is that win11 has in my opinion and some
> others' numerous annoying things,

  I just had a chat with Windows 11 and it assures me that the feeling
is mutual.

[...]

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#182340

micky wrote:
> In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 15 Feb 2025 09:56:18 +0000, Jim the
> Geordie <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>>
>> I'm 84 now and can probably stumble on with my Windows 10 in the hope I
>> pop-my-clogs before it does, but I'd rather have something to do in the
>> meantime. :)
> 
> The one thing I forgot to say is that win11 has in my opinion and some
> others' numerous annoying things, (mostly the taskbar that will no
> longer go more than one row high, Of course if our current taskbar is
> only one row high, that won't likely matter to you.), and otoh not much
> new, and even less that is new that I want.  I had to buy a new laptop,
> so I got one with win11, but I would probably be happier with same thing
> running win10.   Read my other threads here and read more about what's
> wrong with win11.

I think we'd all be happier with Win10, micky. But MS are ceasing to 
support it later this year; pushing us to Win11. But there are rumours 
of Win12 in the pipeline. What new hardware will that demand?
It could well be that many Win11 machines will need upgrading.
What new hardware?
Maybe some group in MS is working on a front-end CPU add-on which brands 
every byte coming out of it with an encrypted laser beam; which will zap 
non-recognised bytes as it moves through the RAM.   (:-

Ed

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#182342

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sun, 16 Feb 2025 16:48:04 +0000, Ed Cryer
<ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:

>micky wrote:
>> In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 15 Feb 2025 09:56:18 +0000, Jim the
>> Geordie <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>>>
>>> I'm 84 now and can probably stumble on with my Windows 10 in the hope I
>>> pop-my-clogs before it does, but I'd rather have something to do in the
>>> meantime. :)
>> 
>> The one thing I forgot to say is that win11 has in my opinion and some
>> others' numerous annoying things, (mostly the taskbar that will no
>> longer go more than one row high, Of course if our current taskbar is
>> only one row high, that won't likely matter to you.), and otoh not much
>> new, and even less that is new that I want.  I had to buy a new laptop,
>> so I got one with win11, but I would probably be happier with same thing
>> running win10.   Read my other threads here and read more about what's
>> wrong with win11.
>
>I think we'd all be happier with Win10, micky. But MS are ceasing to 
>support it later this year; pushing us to Win11. But there are rumours 
>of Win12 in the pipeline. What new hardware will that demand?

Oh, my gosh. 

>It could well be that many Win11 machines will need upgrading.
>What new hardware?

If that happens, I will be in the position of Jim the Geordie, and
probably stumble along, but with win11, until my clogs pop. 

>Maybe some group in MS is working on a front-end CPU add-on which brands 
>every byte coming out of it with an encrypted laser beam; which will zap 
>non-recognised bytes as it moves through the RAM.   (:-
>
>Ed
>
>

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#182358

On 16/02/2025 16:48, Ed Cryer wrote:
> micky wrote:
>> In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 15 Feb 2025 09:56:18 +0000, Jim the
>> Geordie <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I'm 84 now and can probably stumble on with my Windows 10 in the hope I
>>> pop-my-clogs before it does, but I'd rather have something to do in the
>>> meantime. :)
>>
>> The one thing I forgot to say is that win11 has in my opinion and some
>> others' numerous annoying things, (mostly the taskbar that will no
>> longer go more than one row high, Of course if our current taskbar is
>> only one row high, that won't likely matter to you.), and otoh not much
>> new, and even less that is new that I want.  I had to buy a new laptop,
>> so I got one with win11, but I would probably be happier with same thing
>> running win10.   Read my other threads here and read more about what's
>> wrong with win11.
> 
> I think we'd all be happier with Win10, micky. But MS are ceasing to 
> support it later this year; pushing us to Win11. But there are rumours 
> of Win12 in the pipeline. What new hardware will that demand?
> It could well be that many Win11 machines will need upgrading.
> What new hardware?
> Maybe some group in MS is working on a front-end CPU add-on which brands 
> every byte coming out of it with an encrypted laser beam; which will zap 
> non-recognised bytes as it moves through the RAM.   (:-
> 
> Ed
> 
Having said all that, several posters in this group appear to have 
Windows versions well before Version 10 and seem to be coping.
-- 
Jim the Geordie

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#182370

On 17/02/2025 00:17, Jim the Geordie wrote:
> On 16/02/2025 16:48, Ed Cryer wrote:
>> micky wrote:
>>> In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 15 Feb 2025 09:56:18 +0000, Jim the
>>> Geordie <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm 84 now and can probably stumble on with my Windows 10 in the hope I
>>>> pop-my-clogs before it does, but I'd rather have something to do in the
>>>> meantime. :)
>>>
>>> The one thing I forgot to say is that win11 has in my opinion and some
>>> others' numerous annoying things, (mostly the taskbar that will no
>>> longer go more than one row high, Of course if our current taskbar is
>>> only one row high, that won't likely matter to you.), and otoh not much
>>> new, and even less that is new that I want.  I had to buy a new laptop,
>>> so I got one with win11, but I would probably be happier with same thing
>>> running win10.   Read my other threads here and read more about what's
>>> wrong with win11.
>>
>> I think we'd all be happier with Win10, micky. But MS are ceasing to 
>> support it later this year; pushing us to Win11. But there are rumours 
>> of Win12 in the pipeline. What new hardware will that demand?
>> It could well be that many Win11 machines will need upgrading.
>> What new hardware?
>> Maybe some group in MS is working on a front-end CPU add-on which 
>> brands every byte coming out of it with an encrypted laser beam; which 
>> will zap non-recognised bytes as it moves through the RAM.   (:-
>>
>> Ed
>>
> Having said all that, several posters in this group appear to have 
> Windows versions well before Version 10 and seem to be coping.

Yes Jim.
Windows 8.1 is my main OS although I can also boot into Windows 10 & 
Windows 11 on a partitioned M.2 drive using Easy BCD
  - https://neosmart.net/EasyBCD/


-- 
Regards
wasbit

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#182283

Jim the Geordie <jim@jimxscott.co.uk> wrote:
> I'm toying with the notion of creating a Backup using Macrium Reflect 8 
> Free.
> Just suppose my internal hard drive suffers a fault and I need to use my 
> backup created with Macrium to restore it. (Assume that I have created a 
> rescue disc and my backup is on an external HDD)
> Question: if my hard drive is compromised, how would I get to the 
> Macrium file to start the rescue process?

  You boot from the rescue disc you made and that offers a Macrium
environment which you can use to restore the image file(s) from your
external HDD.

  Just try it, Boot from the resue disc and look around. As long as you
don't do an actual restore, there's no harm in seeing what it looks
like.

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#182285

On Fri, 2/14/2025 1:55 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> Jim the Geordie <jim@jimxscott.co.uk> wrote:
>> I'm toying with the notion of creating a Backup using Macrium Reflect 8 
>> Free.
>> Just suppose my internal hard drive suffers a fault and I need to use my 
>> backup created with Macrium to restore it. (Assume that I have created a 
>> rescue disc and my backup is on an external HDD)
>> Question: if my hard drive is compromised, how would I get to the 
>> Macrium file to start the rescue process?
> 
>   You boot from the rescue disc you made and that offers a Macrium
> environment which you can use to restore the image file(s) from your
> external HDD.
> 
>   Just try it, Boot from the resue disc and look around. As long as you
> don't do an actual restore, there's no harm in seeing what it looks
> like.
> 

The rescue disc is perfectly harmless.

The average computer (from the DVD era) will have
the DVD drive as the first item in the list, followed
by hard drive or whatever. It shouldn't even require
using popup boot, if you use an actual DVD.

If you make a USB stick, then you might have to use
the popup boot key (F8 on Asus), to select the Macrium USB Stick.

If you use Rufus to make a USB stick from a Macrium ISO, that
should work also. Still requires popup boot key, as USB booting
is not generally a full-time option in the BIOS. (There are
a few different BIOS behaviors.)

The WinPE/WinRE based media, prepares a RAMdisk drive X: and
loads the contents of the boot.wim in it. This leaves C: available
for a "real" C: if one is about. the high drive letter of the boot
OS, is to make more room for the user. They leave Z: open so you can
access a file share from the Macrium Explorer menu and make that Z: .
I sometimes do restores across the LAN, using storage on the
other machine.

Once the WIM file is transferred into X: and the DVD light stops
flashing, you can eject the DVD. Similarly, you could pull out the
USB stick (but there is no rush). The reason for thinking about the
DVD, is you might want to pop the DVD before clicking the Shutdown
item.

*******

Using the WinRE is a relatively new option for Macrium. They use the
reagentc /info command to determine/locate where the WinRE.wim is stored.
If yours is disabled or misfortune has befallen it, then you'll be
using the option in the next paragraph. The WinRE materials
can be used to make a boot OS (as they are used as an emergency OS
for the regular operating system). .

The normal method, is to download a portion of a WADK kit and make
boot media from a WinPE and associated WIM. They can also add drivers
based on the version of the WADK kit. For example, if the WADK kit
is from the W11 era, there might just be a Realtek 2.5GbE NIC driver
in there. My USB stick for Macrium lacks that right now, and
a couple Linux OSes didn't have the driver for it either. I have
a USB3 to Ethernet I use for such occasions, and the Macrium media
has the driver for that no problem. If using WADK, WInPE 5 is the minimum,
WinPE 10 also works, and both have USB3 drivers. You need USB3 drivers for
your external HDD enclosure, and USB3 has fast enough transfer rates,
to make it worth living. If you are stuck with USB2 rates,
then head off and take a nap while it runs, as that is 35MB/sec.
You'd be surprised how many people do backups at 35MB/sec :-/
The naps must be good ones.

   Paul

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#182284

On Fri, 14 Feb 2025 18:05:13 +0000, Jim the Geordie wrote:

>  (Assume that I have created a 
> rescue disc and my backup is on an external HDD)

Disc? USB isn't an option for you?

-- 
s|b

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#182286

On 14/02/2025 19:57, s|b wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Feb 2025 18:05:13 +0000, Jim the Geordie wrote:
> 
>>   (Assume that I have created a
>> rescue disc and my backup is on an external HDD)
> 
> Disc? USB isn't an option for you?
> 
I suppose so, but I've got lots of unused discs :)

-- 
Jim the Geordie

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#182289

Jim the Geordie <jim@jimxscott.co.uk> wrote:
> On 14/02/2025 19:57, s|b wrote:
> > On Fri, 14 Feb 2025 18:05:13 +0000, Jim the Geordie wrote:
> > 
> >>   (Assume that I have created a
> >> rescue disc and my backup is on an external HDD)
> > 
> > Disc? USB isn't an option for you?
> > 
> I suppose so, but I've got lots of unused discs :)

Like me. :D
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#182293

On Fri, 2/14/2025 10:41 PM, Ant wrote:
> Jim the Geordie <jim@jimxscott.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 14/02/2025 19:57, s|b wrote:
>>> On Fri, 14 Feb 2025 18:05:13 +0000, Jim the Geordie wrote:
>>>
>>>>   (Assume that I have created a
>>>> rescue disc and my backup is on an external HDD)
>>>
>>> Disc? USB isn't an option for you?
>>>
>> I suppose so, but I've got lots of unused discs :)
> 
> Like me. :D
> 

I put materials on DVD occasionally, as I get sick of
multiplexing a small collection of pretty-awful USB
sticks for this work.

The Macrium got its own USB stick, so that one is static
and it's fast for booting. But if I'm testing new OSes,
and using USB sticks, the time to load the ISO onto
some of the sticks, it's pretty slow.

My computer store used to stock Extreme Pro type devices,
and those could write at least 100MB/sec. Those were worth
having. But some of the TLC ones here have dropped
to 1.5MB/sec, as the stick has only had a small handful of
ISOs on it and it's already almost dead.

The USB sticks are just... dreary. It's always a rainy day
in USB-stick-land. Resorting to DVD, shows how pissed off
I am, with the USB stick behavior.

My OCZ Rally2 stick, it's an MLC one as far as I know,
and it is a model citizen. The Rally2 reads and writes at
the same speed. It isn't the "write at 10MB/sec, read at 100MB/sec"
routine. But the speed is consistent with older flash technology.

If only we could have more 8GB SLC sticks or MLC sticks, for test OSes...

Micron did list a 32GB SLC chip (sorta like chip porn), but
there is no evidence that ever shipped in volume. Maybe it
got listed, as a test marketing scheme, to see if there
was a business case for making one.

   Paul

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#182343

On 14/02/2025 18:05, Jim the Geordie wrote:
> (Assume that I have created a 
> rescue disc and my backup is on an external HDD)
> Question: if my hard drive is compromised, how would I get to the 
> Macrium file to start the rescue process?

If the rescue disk is created from Macrium itself then it is very likely 
to be bootable assuming you created it correctly.

When you can boot-up with this rescue disk then you can browse your 
backup file  and choose whether to restore or not. It is quite simple if 
you think about it. It's all drag and drop in Macrium to restore 
partitions and to resize and shrink them also.

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