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  Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2024-12-16 14:46 -0500
    Re: Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2024-12-16 14:22 -0600
      Re: Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2024-12-16 16:12 -0500
        Re: Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2024-12-16 16:30 -0600
        Re: Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-16 23:56 +0100
        Re: Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2024-12-17 10:20 +0200
          Re: Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2024-12-17 06:33 -0500
            Re: Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2024-12-17 10:21 -0600
              Re: Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2024-12-18 23:23 -0500
                Re: Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2024-12-19 08:24 +0200
                Re: Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-19 03:50 -0500
                  Re: Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2024-12-19 11:31 -0600
                    Re: Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2024-12-19 17:00 -0600
                Re: Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2024-12-19 11:27 -0600
                  Re: Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2024-12-22 07:33 -0500
                    Re: Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-22 08:32 -0500
                    Re: Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> - 2025-02-07 14:32 -0800
    Re: Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? clams casino <cc@invalid.cc> - 2024-12-16 13:24 -0700
    Re: Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2024-12-16 15:48 -0500
      Re: Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> - 2024-12-16 18:04 -0500
    Re: Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2024-12-17 10:14 +0200
      Re: Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2024-12-17 06:22 -0500
        Re: Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> - 2025-02-07 14:36 -0800
    Re: Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> - 2024-12-17 09:41 +0000
    Re: Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-17 09:03 -0500
      Re: Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> - 2024-12-17 16:49 +0000
      Re: Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2024-12-18 23:35 -0500
        Re: Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-19 08:37 -0500
          Re: Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2024-12-19 11:18 -0600
    Re: Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-12-17 18:38 +0100

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#180632 — Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media?

I'll get back to everyone who posted in my previous thread, but I need
to know if you all think Usenet is social media?    
                                Or Social Media?  Which?  

And would you answer the same for Reddit? 

They're social because they involve people, but people don't make
friends on any of them, normally.   And people don't talk about little
or even big things that happen in their personal lives much, and when
once in a while I do, most people are bored and ignore them in any
replies they make. 

To me that means it's not social. 

But if some webpage that matters to me asks how I heard about it, and I
say "internet" but NOT through social media, they will likely think its
a page with good or bad informative text but no way for readers to
reply.  That Usenet and Reddit do allow replies, depend on replies, sort
of makes them *social* media. 

So all in all, in your opinion, are Usenet and Reddit social media? 

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#180633

On 12/16/2024 1:46 PM, micky wrote:

Why do you insist on posting off-topic junk to otherwise usable groups 
and cross post them to the rat nest of alt.home.repair?

I'll answer your question.  No.  Usenet is usenet, and who gives two 
shit about reddit!

-- 
I Stand With Israel!

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#180636

In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Mon, 16 Dec 2024 14:22:28 -0600, sticks
<wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:

>On 12/16/2024 1:46 PM, micky wrote:
>
>Why do you insist on posting off-topic junk to otherwise usable groups 

It's not off-topic.  The topic was usenet. 

>and cross post them to the rat nest of alt.home.repair?
>
>I'll answer your question.  No.  Usenet is usenet, and who gives two 
>shit about reddit!

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#180637

On 12/16/2024 3:12 PM, micky wrote:
> In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Mon, 16 Dec 2024 14:22:28 -0600, sticks
> <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 12/16/2024 1:46 PM, micky wrote:
>>
>> Why do you insist on posting off-topic junk to otherwise usable groups
> 
> It's not off-topic.  The topic was usenet.

Bullshit.  Usenet is the forum.  The topic of a.c.o.WINDOWS-10 is 
obviously windows 10.  There will always be thread drift and normal 
people soon realize it and try to control themselves.  That's not what 
happened here, or what you typically do.  This was an original post 
totally off topic to windows, android, and firefox.  The only place it 
fits in is alt.home.repair since this is the kind of shit they do all 
the time in that group. Get some manners.


-- 
I Stand With Israel!

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#180638

On 2024-12-16 22:12, micky wrote:
> In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Mon, 16 Dec 2024 14:22:28 -0600, sticks
> <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 12/16/2024 1:46 PM, micky wrote:
>>
>> Why do you insist on posting off-topic junk to otherwise usable groups
> 
> It's not off-topic.  The topic was usenet.

Which is offtopic here. The topic here is only Windows 10.

If using the other groups, it can be firefox, android, or repairs at 
home. Usenet is not the topic of any of those groups.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#180643

On Mon, 16 Dec 2024 16:12:08 -0500, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
wrote:

>In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Mon, 16 Dec 2024 14:22:28 -0600, sticks
><wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
>
>>On 12/16/2024 1:46 PM, micky wrote:
>>
>>Why do you insist on posting off-topic junk to otherwise usable groups 
>
>It's not off-topic.  The topic was usenet. 

But Windows 10 is not Usenet.

Try news.groups
and news.groups.questions

I was going to set more appropriate follow-ups, but want' allowed to,
so sorry to all the inappropriate groups. 






-- 
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web:  http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

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#180648

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 17 Dec 2024 10:20:45 +0200, Steve
Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 16 Dec 2024 16:12:08 -0500, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
>wrote:
>
>>In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Mon, 16 Dec 2024 14:22:28 -0600, sticks
>><wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On 12/16/2024 1:46 PM, micky wrote:
>>>
>>>Why do you insist on posting off-topic junk to otherwise usable groups 
>>
>>It's not off-topic.  The topic was usenet. 
>
>But Windows 10 is not Usenet.
>
>Try news.groups
>and news.groups.questions

Thanks, not a bad suggestion and clearly an attempt to be helpful, but I
don't read those groups and don't want to start for one question.  I
don't know the people in them and don't know whose judgment to respect. 

>I was going to set more appropriate follow-ups, but want' allowed to,
>so sorry to all the inappropriate groups. 

This subthread reminds of when there was a newly formed moderated forum
on, say, Of Mice and Men, and the new moderators were ridiculously over-
strict, and people tried to post polite questions and complaints and the
mods rejected them all saying moderation was off-topic.  We all thought
it was, say, an on-topic meta-topic, by definition.   I think the same
thing here.  

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#180652

On 12/17/2024 5:33 AM, micky wrote:
> In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 17 Dec 2024 10:20:45 +0200, Steve
> Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, 16 Dec 2024 16:12:08 -0500, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
>> wrote:

>>>
>>> It's not off-topic.  The topic was usenet.
>>
>> But Windows 10 is not Usenet.
>>
>> Try news.groups
>> and news.groups.questions
> 
> Thanks, not a bad suggestion and clearly an attempt to be helpful, but I
> don't read those groups and don't want to start for one question.  I
> don't know the people in them and don't know whose judgment to respect.

What a round about way of saying you're too dumb and lazy to try to do 
things properly and you just don't care.

> 
>> I was going to set more appropriate follow-ups, but want' allowed to,
>> so sorry to all the inappropriate groups.
> 
> This subthread reminds of when there was a newly formed moderated forum
> on, say, Of Mice and Men, and the new moderators were ridiculously over-
> strict, and people tried to post polite questions and complaints and the
> mods rejected them all saying moderation was off-topic.  We all thought
> it was, say, an on-topic meta-topic, by definition.   I think the same
> thing here.

no you don't.  you just don't care that you fill these groups with all 
your off-topic posts.  You'll prove me right by continuing to do similar 
things soon enough.


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I Stand With Israel!

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#180688

In comp.mobile.android, on Tue, 17 Dec 2024 10:21:12 -0600, sticks
<wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:

>On 12/17/2024 5:33 AM, micky wrote:
>> In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 17 Dec 2024 10:20:45 +0200, Steve
>> Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Mon, 16 Dec 2024 16:12:08 -0500, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
>>> wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>> It's not off-topic.  The topic was usenet.
>>>
>>> But Windows 10 is not Usenet.
>>>
>>> Try news.groups
>>> and news.groups.questions
>> 
>> Thanks, not a bad suggestion and clearly an attempt to be helpful, but I
>> don't read those groups and don't want to start for one question.  I
>> don't know the people in them and don't know whose judgment to respect.
>
>What a round about way of saying you're too dumb and lazy to try to do 
>things properly and you just don't care.

You don't know me better than I know myself.   Those were my real
reasons and don't involve laziness, and you are going by your idea of
what is proper, and I know longer care what you think but I do care
about this ng and all the others. ......

>>> I was going to set more appropriate follow-ups, but want' allowed to,
>>> so sorry to all the inappropriate groups.
>> 
>> This subthread reminds of when there was a newly formed moderated forum
>> on, say, Of Mice and Men, and the new moderators were ridiculously over-
>> strict, and people tried to post polite questions and complaints and the
>> mods rejected them all saying moderation was off-topic.  We all thought
>> it was, say, an on-topic meta-topic, by definition.   I think the same
>> thing here.
>
>no you don't. 

You definitely don't know what I think.  Why do you imagine you know
what someone else thinks?  That's sort of dumb, isn't it? 

> you just don't care that you fill these groups with all 
>your off-topic posts. 

Once every 2 or 3 months or less, by your standards.  That's not filling
anything.  And you have the opportunity to stop reading after the first
half of the first post, but no, you're still at it.  You can even filter
me out.  Feel free.  I don't remember you ever answering one of my
technical questions, so I have nothing to lose. 

> You'll prove me right by continuing to do similar 
>things soon enough.

It won't prove a thing.  

You didn't seem to notice that my question got several good answers,
from people who either didn't think it is was off topic, or are not so
hide-bound to an on-topic rule, which did not come down from Sinai.  

And BTW, the fewest number of replies were in AHR and none were from the
intruder/political spammers from other invading groups, probably because
they don't read AHR directly, they only cross-post to it.

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#180691

On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 23:23:09 -0500, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
wrote:

>>What a round about way of saying you're too dumb and lazy to try to do 
>>things properly and you just don't care.
>
>You don't know me better than I know myself.   Those were my real
>reasons and don't involve laziness, and you are going by your idea of
>what is proper, and I know longer care what you think but I do care
>about this ng and all the others. ......

Don't feed the trolls. 

-- 
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web:  http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

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#180693

On Wed, 12/18/2024 11:23 PM, micky wrote:

> 
> You didn't seem to notice that my question got several good answers,

USENET has a history and it has a rule set.

And it is NOT social media.

To even answer this question, which is (OT * cross-posted)
is a violation of the rule set.

Groups have a narrow charter. The charter receives a lot
of discussion (during request for comments), because it
defines exactly what is allowed and not allowed. For example,
in order to avoid creating a .forsale group, the charter would
indicate that forsale items were allowed, as long as they were
prefaced with FORSALE: . In this way, the voters who voted
on the charter, could agree or disagree with the definition
of topicality. If the decision by the majority was that
FORSALE was banned, then the charter could specifically
say that such articles are "not allowed". You could not
for example OT: forsale hallicrafters X12 transceiver,
as that is specifically an activity which is "not allowed".
Depending on your administrator, you could lose your
account for doing that (administrators did enforce rules
back then - I nearly got banned once for something pretty
trivial).

There is still a Big-8 Management Board. There are still
people who organize USENET. Even if many of the moving
parts are now missing (FAQ postings for new users,
news.newusers for people who are new to USENET).

One of the original suggestions for USENET, upon first
connecting, was to not post. Just read threads (kibbitz) and
absorb the etiquette. Then, if you had any questions
after viewing thousands of posts, someone could fill
in the details. Not posting was preferable to
a posting etiquette violation. That's how things used to work.

When I first started, I read SunManagers. A question would be
raised. After a week or ten days, with some good answers,
the OP "paid" for the question, by writing a summary post listing
which solutions worked and which solutions did not work.
In this way, the OP paid back the effort people put forward
towards answering a question. Then if you looked at a
thread in SunManagers, it was a "self-contained article".
You were not left wondering what happened to the OP, because
they wrote back and paid their debt.

That's a system that had rules. There were no cookie recipes
or car repairs in SunManagers. Just questions and answers
about Sun Microsystems Unix boxes. Most of the queries and
answers, were from IT class people. People stayed on topic there.
There was no one asking "whether it was snowing where you are".

That's an example of the history of the place.

   Paul

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#180704

On 12/19/2024 2:50 AM, Paul wrote:
> On Wed, 12/18/2024 11:23 PM, micky wrote:
> 
>>
>> You didn't seem to notice that my question got several good answers,
> 
> USENET has a history and it has a rule set.
> 
> And it is NOT social media.

---snip great stuff---

> That's an example of the history of the place.

What some fail to understand or don't care about, is that if everyone 
did what micky and yana2 do these groups would be unusable. 
But...they're special.


-- 
I Stand With Israel!

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#180716

On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 11:31:28 -0600, sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:

>On 12/19/2024 2:50 AM, Paul wrote:
>> On Wed, 12/18/2024 11:23 PM, micky wrote:
>> 
>>>
>>> You didn't seem to notice that my question got several good answers,
>> 
>> USENET has a history and it has a rule set.
>> 
>> And it is NOT social media.
>
>---snip great stuff---

Great, but quite incomplete, especially for the issue at hand.

>> That's an example of the history of the place.
>
>What some fail to understand or don't care about, is that if everyone 
>did what micky and yana2 do these groups would be unusable. 
>But...they're special.

Paul posted about the Big-8 side of the house, but over here in alt.* land,
about the only thing we share is the concept of a charter. Enforcement is left
to peer pressure, (what we're seeing in this sub-thread), and the honor system.
It's all we have, but it usually works well enough.

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#180703

On 12/18/2024 10:23 PM, micky wrote:
> In comp.mobile.android, on Tue, 17 Dec 2024 10:21:12 -0600, sticks
> <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 12/17/2024 5:33 AM, micky wrote:
>>> In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 17 Dec 2024 10:20:45 +0200, Steve
>>> Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 16 Dec 2024 16:12:08 -0500, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's not off-topic.  The topic was usenet.
>>>>
>>>> But Windows 10 is not Usenet.
>>>>
>>>> Try news.groups
>>>> and news.groups.questions
>>>
>>> Thanks, not a bad suggestion and clearly an attempt to be helpful, but I
>>> don't read those groups and don't want to start for one question.  I
>>> don't know the people in them and don't know whose judgment to respect.
>>
>> What a round about way of saying you're too dumb and lazy to try to do
>> things properly and you just don't care.
> 
> You don't know me better than I know myself.   Those were my real
> reasons and don't involve laziness, and you are going by your idea of
> what is proper, and I know longer care what you think but I do care
> about this ng and all the others. ......
> 
>>>> I was going to set more appropriate follow-ups, but want' allowed to,
>>>> so sorry to all the inappropriate groups.
>>>
>>> This subthread reminds of when there was a newly formed moderated forum
>>> on, say, Of Mice and Men, and the new moderators were ridiculously over-
>>> strict, and people tried to post polite questions and complaints and the
>>> mods rejected them all saying moderation was off-topic.  We all thought
>>> it was, say, an on-topic meta-topic, by definition.   I think the same
>>> thing here.
>>
>> no you don't.
> 
> You definitely don't know what I think.  Why do you imagine you know
> what someone else thinks?  That's sort of dumb, isn't it?

What's dumb is you can't remember what you posted already, even though 
you quoted it.  You said above, you don't want to post to another group 
because you're not currently subscribed to it, and you don't know the 
people in it.  Then you said you wanted to set more *appropriate* 
follow-ups, thereby acknowledging you at least kind of know this is the 
wrong forum.

> 
>> you just don't care that you fill these groups with all
>> your off-topic posts.
> 
> Once every 2 or 3 months or less, by your standards.  That's not filling
> anything.  And you have the opportunity to stop reading after the first
> half of the first post, but no, you're still at it.  You can even filter
> me out.  Feel free.  I don't remember you ever answering one of my
> technical questions, so I have nothing to lose.

That's not how usenet works.  There is no requirement to answer 
"technical questions."  I will probably take your other advice soon 
enough, though.

>> You'll prove me right by continuing to do similar
>> things soon enough.
> 
> It won't prove a thing.
> 
> You didn't seem to notice that my question got several good answers,
> from people who either didn't think it is was off topic, or are not so
> hide-bound to an on-topic rule, which did not come down from Sinai.

Please read Paul's most excellent post in this thread.  Maybe coming 
from someone you respect a little more might help you with your 
comprehension problem.

> 
> And BTW, the fewest number of replies were in AHR and none were from the
> intruder/political spammers from other invading groups, probably because
> they don't read AHR directly, they only cross-post to it.

Who cares?  Try posting on-topic things there and maybe you'll get more 
of a response.



-- 
I Stand With Israel!

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#180838

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Thu, 19 Dec 2024 11:27:37 -0600, sticks
<wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:

>On 12/18/2024 10:23 PM, micky wrote:
>> In comp.mobile.android, on Tue, 17 Dec 2024 10:21:12 -0600, sticks
>> <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 12/17/2024 5:33 AM, micky wrote:
>>>> In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 17 Dec 2024 10:20:45 +0200, Steve
>>>> Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 16 Dec 2024 16:12:08 -0500, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's not off-topic.  The topic was usenet.
>>>>>
>>>>> But Windows 10 is not Usenet.
>>>>>
>>>>> Try news.groups
>>>>> and news.groups.questions
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, not a bad suggestion and clearly an attempt to be helpful, but I
>>>> don't read those groups and don't want to start for one question.  I
>>>> don't know the people in them and don't know whose judgment to respect.
>>>
>>> What a round about way of saying you're too dumb and lazy to try to do
>>> things properly and you just don't care.
>> 
>> You don't know me better than I know myself.   Those were my real
>> reasons and don't involve laziness, and you are going by your idea of
>> what is proper, and I know longer care what you think but I do care
>> about this ng and all the others. ......
>> 
>>>>> I was going to set more appropriate follow-ups, but want' allowed to,
>>>>> so sorry to all the inappropriate groups.

Steve Hayes said this. 

>>>> This subthread reminds of when there was a newly formed moderated forum
>>>> on, say, Of Mice and Men, and the new moderators were ridiculously over-
>>>> strict, and people tried to post polite questions and complaints and the
>>>> mods rejected them all saying moderation was off-topic.  We all thought
>>>> it was, say, an on-topic meta-topic, by definition.   I think the same
>>>> thing here.
>>>
>>> no you don't.
>> 
>> You definitely don't know what I think.  Why do you imagine you know
>> what someone else thinks?  That's sort of dumb, isn't it?
>
>What's dumb is you can't remember what you posted already, even though 
>you quoted it.  You said above, you don't want to post to another group 
>because you're not currently subscribed to it, and you don't know the 
>people in it.  Then you said you wanted to set more *appropriate* 
>follow-ups, 

Steve Hayes said that. 

>thereby acknowledging you at least kind of know this is the 
>wrong forum.

Nope, and I didn't say it. 

>>> you just don't care that you fill these groups with all
>>> your off-topic posts.
>> 
>> Once every 2 or 3 months or less, by your standards.  That's not filling
>> anything.  And you have the opportunity to stop reading after the first
>> half of the first post, but no, you're still at it.  You can even filter
>> me out.  Feel free.  I don't remember you ever answering one of my
>> technical questions, so I have nothing to lose.
>
>That's not how usenet works. 

I didn't say anything about how Usenet works. 

> There is no requirement to answer 
>"technical questions." 

Of course not and I didn't say it. imply it, or rely on it. I was not
complaining that you didn't answer my questions.  I was saying, clearly,
that I had nothing to lose if you filtered me out because afaicr you
don't answer any of my questions anyhow. 

> I will probably take your other advice soon 
>enough, though.
>
>>> You'll prove me right by continuing to do similar
>>> things soon enough.
>> 
>> It won't prove a thing.
>> 
>> You didn't seem to notice that my question got several good answers,
>> from people who either didn't think it is was off topic, or are not so
>> hide-bound to an on-topic rule, which did not come down from Sinai.
>
>Please read Paul's most excellent post in this thread.  Maybe coming 
>from someone you respect a little more might help you with your 
>comprehension problem.
>
>> 
>> And BTW, the fewest number of replies were in AHR and none were from the
>> intruder/political spammers from other invading groups, probably because
>> they don't read AHR directly, they only cross-post to it.
>
>Who cares?  Try posting on-topic things there and maybe you'll get more 
>of a response.

You in your first reply, and I think one other person later, brought up
AHR. 

I've been reading all these groups for 10 or 20 years, or more. Except
in AHR, how many times have I posted off-topic, even by your or the
strictest standards?.  In a windows and firefox groups, I think this is
the only time.  In 20 years. In the Android group, a few times
semi-on-topic, once about iphones when I found a lost iphone, and maybe
a couple more. 

I'm not an invader whose goal is to fill the group with spam.  Once in
20 years.  And I'm not the poster a wave of OT posters are waiting for,
to know that it's time for them to start posting OT. So even if you
thought my post was OT, it would have been worth one short reply,
instead of series of 6 replies from you that were even more off-topic
than my OP   So stop your whining.   

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#180841

On Sun, 12/22/2024 7:33 AM, micky wrote:

> 
> So stop your whining.   

This thread is cross-posted to disparate groups,
it does not contain OT: designator, and has
degenerated to a slag-fest.

This thread is over.

It's simple. Follow the rules.
Follow the rules, and you won't get whining.

Pretty easy, really. I know you can do it.
You have the skill-set for precision posting.

   Paul

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#182102

On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 07:33:36 -0500, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
wrote:

>I've been reading all these groups for 10 or 20 years, or more. Except
>in AHR, how many times have I posted off-topic, even by your or the
>strictest standards?.  In a windows and firefox groups, I think this is
>the only time.  In 20 years. In the Android group, a few times
>semi-on-topic, once about iphones when I found a lost iphone, and maybe
>a couple more. 
>
>I'm not an invader whose goal is to fill the group with spam.  Once in
>20 years.  And I'm not the poster a wave of OT posters are waiting for,
>to know that it's time for them to start posting OT. So even if you
>thought my post was OT, it would have been worth one short reply,
>instead of series of 6 replies from you that were even more off-topic
>than my OP   So stop your whining.   

Indeed - I've been posting to Usenet since April 1993 (so far as I
could find on Google Groups before it went down) and have years ago
understood that with the other competitors you've named its demise is
eventual and will eventually disappear though I intend to go on
enjoying it as long as I can.

I come to THIS group in particular to learn how to fix various
problems though that may end soon as I'm getting a new puter in the
next 2 months which will almost certainly be a Win 11 box.

(Though I intend to keep my late wife's computer which is Win 10 and
since her passing has mostly been used as a print server to the
various machines in this house as well as a small scale heater for our
dog who's bed is adjacent to it.)

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#180634

On 12/16/2024 12:46 PM, micky wrote:
> I'll get back to everyone who posted in my previous thread, but I need
> to know if you all think Usenet is social media?
>                                  Or Social Media?  Which?

That's just a caps thing.

> 
> And would you answer the same for Reddit?

Yes.

> They're social because they involve people, but people don't make
> friends on any of them, normally.   And people don't talk about little
> or even big things that happen in their personal lives much, and when
> once in a while I do, most people are bored and ignore them in any
> replies they make.

You haven't been on RFC much have ya?

It's a loony bin of personal over-sharing and mandates of control.

> To me that means it's not social.

But a library is social and no one speaks much.

> But if some webpage that matters to me asks how I heard about it, and I
> say "internet" but NOT through social media, they will likely think its
> a page with good or bad informative text but no way for readers to
> reply.  That Usenet and Reddit do allow replies, depend on replies, sort
> of makes them *social* media.

Yes.

Uselessnet now un-moderated - yay!

Reddit a bastion of censors.

Boo!

> So all in all, in your opinion, are Usenet and Reddit social media?

They are, but uselessnet is like CB radio, long since leapfrogged by new 
band spectrums and better equipment.

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#180635

On 12/16/24 02:46 PM, micky wrote:
> I'll get back to everyone who posted in my previous thread, but I need
> to know if you all think Usenet is social media?
>                                  Or Social Media?  Which?
> 
> And would you answer the same for Reddit?
> 
> They're social because they involve people, but people don't make
> friends on any of them, normally.   And people don't talk about little
> or even big things that happen in their personal lives much, and when
> once in a while I do, most people are bored and ignore them in any
> replies they make.
> 
> To me that means it's not social.
> 
> But if some webpage that matters to me asks how I heard about it, and I
> say "internet" but NOT through social media, they will likely think its
> a page with good or bad informative text but no way for readers to
> reply.  That Usenet and Reddit do allow replies, depend on replies, sort
> of makes them *social* media.
> 
> So all in all, in your opinion, are Usenet and Reddit social media?
CoPilot say:
Usenet is not considered traditional social media, but it does share some characteristics with it. 
Usenet is a worldwide distributed discussion system that dates back to the early days of the 
internet. It's more like a collection of newsgroups where users can post messages and read others' 
posts on various topics.

Here's how Usenet compares to modern social media:

Structure: Usenet is organized into newsgroups, similar to forums, each dedicated to specific 
topics. Social media platforms, on the other hand, often use more fluid structures like timelines, 
feeds, and groups.

Interaction: Users on Usenet interact by posting messages (called articles) and responding to them, 
similar to how users comment on social media posts. However, Usenet lacks many of the features found 
on modern social media platforms, such as likes, shares, and multimedia content.

Anonymity: Usenet users can post messages without revealing their real identities, while social 
media platforms often encourage users to create profiles with personal information.

Content: Usenet focuses more on text-based discussions, whereas social media platforms support a 
wide range of content types, including images, videos, and live streams.

In essence, while Usenet provides a platform for online discussions and information sharing, it 
operates differently from modern social media platforms like Facebook, Twitter, or Instagram.

-- 
Linux Mint 22, Cinnamon 6.2.9,  Kernel 6.8.0-51-generic
Thunderbird 128.5.2esr, Mozilla Firefox 133.0.3
Alan K.

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#180639

On 12/16/24 15:48, Alan K. wrote:

> Usenet is not considered traditional social media, but it does share 
> some characteristics with it. Usenet is a worldwide distributed 
> discussion system that dates back to the early days of the internet. 
> It's more like a collection of newsgroups where users can post messages 
> and read others' posts on various topics.

It's not more LIKE a collection of newsgroups, it IS a collection of 
newsgroups and it cannot even be mentioned in the same sentence with any 
of them other 'orifices'.


> Anonymity: Usenet users can post messages without revealing their real 
> identities, while social media platforms often encourage users to create 
> profiles with personal information.

This has got to be the attribute that makes THE difference and is why 
millions prefer it and why many agencies have been trying and continue 
to try to destroy it.



-- 
If DIY were a religion, hmmm  ...I just made it one.

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