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  Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May "Jan K." <janicekoziol@nie.ma.spamu.prosze.com> - 2025-03-01 00:41 +0100
    Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-02-28 22:54 -0600
      Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May "Jan K." <janicekoziol@nie.ma.spamu.prosze.com> - 2025-03-01 08:40 +0100
        Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-01 02:36 -0600
        Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> - 2025-04-03 17:17 +0200
      Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-01 16:12 +0000
        Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May Philip Herlihy <nothing@invalid.com> - 2025-03-01 18:14 +0000
          Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-01 18:45 +0000
            Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-02 03:39 +0100
        Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-01 12:35 -0600
          Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-01 19:11 +0000
            Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-01 13:35 -0600
              Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-01 21:01 +0000
                Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-02 03:49 +0100
                  Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-02 14:24 +0000
          from skype to teams frank_n_2017 <frank_n_dale@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-01 23:26 +0100
            Re: from skype to teams Jim <noreply@invalid.com> - 2025-03-02 01:30 +0000
      Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-02 03:34 +0100
        Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-01 22:15 -0600
      Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-01 21:33 -0400
        Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-06 13:25 +0200
          Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-04-07 02:09 +0000
    Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-03-01 10:44 +0100
      Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-01 06:16 -0500
      Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-01 12:36 -0600
        Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-03-02 11:24 +0100
          Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-02 14:07 -0600
            Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-03-02 22:16 +0100
              Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-02 22:29 -0600
                Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-03 08:30 +0100
                  Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-03 03:03 -0600
                    Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-03 03:54 -0600
                      Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-03 11:03 +0100
                    Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-03 11:01 +0100
            Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-03-02 22:16 +0100
              Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-02 22:31 -0600
                Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-03-03 17:21 +0100
                  Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2025-03-03 16:53 +0000
                    Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-03-04 15:07 +0100
                  Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-03 14:14 -0600
    Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-03-01 23:00 +0800

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#183277

On 2025-04-02 03:33, micky wrote:
> In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Fri, 28 Feb 2025 22:54:44 -0600,
> VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
> 
>>
>> "Moving forward, we will no longer offer paid Skype features to new
>> customers,
> 
> So what will they offer to old customers?   Or do they consider me a new
> Teams customer even though I've had Skype for years?

You will get an email from skype with the details.

> 
> That's probably it, but still they do have existing customers. Will they
> continue to offer them Skype credit calls to landlines?
> 
>> including Skype Credit and subscriptions that allow you to
>> make and receive international and domestic calls."


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#183300

Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> On 2025-04-02 03:33, micky wrote:
> > In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Fri, 28 Feb 2025 22:54:44 -0600,
> > VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
> > 
> >>
> >> "Moving forward, we will no longer offer paid Skype features to new
> >> customers,
> > 
> > So what will they offer to old customers?   Or do they consider me a new
> > Teams customer even though I've had Skype for years?

> You will get an email from skype with the details.

I got an e-mail this morning. I rarely use Skype, but I really don't like Teams. :(
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#182667

On Sat, 1 Mar 2025 00:41:37 +0100, Jan K. wrote:

> Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May
> 
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/02/28/microsoft-skype/

My first instinct was to uninstall Skype until I realised I already
uninstalled it. o-:

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#182669

On Sat, 3/1/2025 4:44 AM, s|b wrote:
> On Sat, 1 Mar 2025 00:41:37 +0100, Jan K. wrote:
> 
>> Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May
>>
>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/02/28/microsoft-skype/
> 
> My first instinct was to uninstall Skype until I realised I already
> uninstalled it. o-:
> 

"You don't know what you've got, 'til it's gone".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94bdMSCdw20

   Paul

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#182679

s|b <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

> On Sat, 1 Mar 2025 00:41:37 +0100, Jan K. wrote:
> 
>> Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May
>> 
>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/02/28/microsoft-skype/
> 
> My first instinct was to uninstall Skype until I realised I already
> uninstalled it. o-:

And yet, after uninstall, Microsoft would still push updates for
software that was not on your computer.  Go figure.  Perhaps they
figured you couldn't survive without Skype, and updated its support or
ancilliary files just in case you later reinstalled it.

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#182703

On Sat, 1 Mar 2025 12:36:31 -0600, VanguardLH wrote:

> And yet, after uninstall, Microsoft would still push updates for
> software that was not on your computer.  Go figure.  Perhaps they
> figured you couldn't survive without Skype, and updated its support or
> ancilliary files just in case you later reinstalled it.

Haven't seen any updates for Skype since I removed it.

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#182721

s|b <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

> VanguardLH wrote:
> 
>> And yet, after uninstall, Microsoft would still push updates for
>> software that was not on your computer.  Go figure.  Perhaps they
>> figured you couldn't survive without Skype, and updated its support or
>> ancilliary files just in case you later reinstalled it.
> 
> Haven't seen any updates for Skype since I removed it.

Do you read the release notes for every Windows update you've received
for 14 years?  I found out by reading the release notes that some
updates pushed Skype updates.  Unfortunately Microsoft release notes on
Windows updates have been getting more and more terse resulting in less
information conveyed to users.  After the updates, I would scan the
registry and file system to find Skype files that had been before
removed; i.e., I had to redo the remnant cleanup of something that was
previously uninstalled and the remnant cleanup done at that time.

Be careful on registry remnant cleanup of Skype.  MS Office updates also
include a Skype server. If you have MS Office installed, take a look at:

HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{AAEC1DAE-CC06-4DA4-B762-56A76FD4B2FF}

HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Local Settings\MrtCache\C:%5CProgram Files%5CWindowsApps%5CMicrosoft.SkypeApp_14.35.152.0_x64__kzf8qxf38zg5c%5Cmicrosoft.system.package.metadata%5CS-1-5-21-2131505889-2184669246-1466091326-1001-MergedResources-0.pri
  and under C:\Program Files\WindowsApps
  or do a search on "skype" in voidtools' [Search] Everything.
  
If Skype was uninstalled, why is there still a user profile folder for
C:\Users\<user>\AppData\Roaming\Skype?

Skype for Business is a component of Microsoft 365 suite of products.
Remember I noted you got 60 minutes per month of Skype for free (along
with 1 TB per account) when you got their MS 365 products.  You can try
to eradicate Skype, but WU and Office updates will update it.  Back when
I saw Skype reappearing on my desktop computer, I didn't yet have MS
365.  I just read the release notes for the Windows updates (when they
used to be informative), and then check and found resurrected files and
registry entries after the updates.

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#182727

On Sun, 2 Mar 2025 14:07:04 -0600, VanguardLH wrote:

8< snip - selective quote >8
> If Skype was uninstalled, why is there still a user profile folder for
> C:\Users\<user>\AppData\Roaming\Skype?

Doesn't the same thing happen when you uninstall Fx or TB?

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#182733

s|b <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

> VanguardLH wrote:
> 
>> If Skype was uninstalled, why is there still a user profile folder for
>> C:\Users\<user>\AppData\Roaming\Skype?
> 
> Doesn't the same thing happen when you uninstall Fx or TB?

I Thunderbird's or Firefox's uninstaller does not optionally offer to
delete data files, like profile folders, then I would consider them to
be dirty uninstallers.

The issue was Skype was uninstalled, and registry and file system
remnants were expunged.  Yet later updates still applied updates to
Skype that wasn't there anymore.

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#182735

On 2025-03-03 05:29, VanguardLH wrote:
> s|b <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> VanguardLH wrote:
>>
>>> If Skype was uninstalled, why is there still a user profile folder for
>>> C:\Users\<user>\AppData\Roaming\Skype?
>>
>> Doesn't the same thing happen when you uninstall Fx or TB?
> 
> I Thunderbird's or Firefox's uninstaller does not optionally offer to
> delete data files, like profile folders, then I would consider them to
> be dirty uninstallers.

That's intentional, the uninstall keeps the email that any user might 
have downloaded. Thus if you later install again, the mails are there.

It is the same in Linux.


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#182736

"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

> On 2025-03-03 05:29, VanguardLH wrote:
>> s|b <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>> VanguardLH wrote:
>>>
>>>> If Skype was uninstalled, why is there still a user profile folder for
>>>> C:\Users\<user>\AppData\Roaming\Skype?
>>>
>>> Doesn't the same thing happen when you uninstall Fx or TB?
>> 
>> I Thunderbird's or Firefox's uninstaller does not optionally offer to
>> delete data files, like profile folders, then I would consider them to
>> be dirty uninstallers.
> 
> That's intentional, the uninstall keeps the email that any user might 
> have downloaded. Thus if you later install again, the mails are there.

So, a dirty uninstall.  It should ask if you want to keep or discard.

Also, if using IMAP, all the e-mails are still there no matter which
IMAP client you [re]install on any platform.  Only if you use POP are
the e-mails local.  I left POP more than 2 decades ago.

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#182738

VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> On 2025-03-03 05:29, VanguardLH wrote:
>>> s|b <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> VanguardLH wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If Skype was uninstalled, why is there still a user profile folder for
>>>>> C:\Users\<user>\AppData\Roaming\Skype?
>>>>
>>>> Doesn't the same thing happen when you uninstall Fx or TB?
>>> 
>>> I Thunderbird's or Firefox's uninstaller does not optionally offer to
>>> delete data files, like profile folders, then I would consider them to
>>> be dirty uninstallers.
>> 
>> That's intentional, the uninstall keeps the email that any user might 
>> have downloaded. Thus if you later install again, the mails are there.
> 
> So, a dirty uninstall.  It should ask if you want to keep or discard.
> 
> Also, if using IMAP, all the e-mails are still there no matter which
> IMAP client you [re]install on any platform.  Only if you use POP are
> the e-mails local.  I left POP more than 2 decades ago.

But after uninstalling Firefox or Thunderbird, do they or their
components reappear in subsequent Windows updates?  Nope.

When you uninstall Firefox, does it remove its background update
service?  Only if that got left behind could something possible
reconstitute Firefox as part of some half-assed update that installed
some files, but didn't reinstall the program in full.

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#182740

On 2025-03-03 10:54, VanguardLH wrote:
> VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
> 
>> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

...

> But after uninstalling Firefox or Thunderbird, do they or their
> components reappear in subsequent Windows updates?  Nope.

Windows updates AFAIK never touch Mozilla products, they are third party.

> 
> When you uninstall Firefox, does it remove its background update
> service?  Only if that got left behind could something possible
> reconstitute Firefox as part of some half-assed update that installed
> some files, but didn't reinstall the program in full.

AFAIK it is removed. It is code.

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#182739

On 2025-03-03 10:03, VanguardLH wrote:
> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> On 2025-03-03 05:29, VanguardLH wrote:
>>> s|b <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> VanguardLH wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If Skype was uninstalled, why is there still a user profile folder for
>>>>> C:\Users\<user>\AppData\Roaming\Skype?
>>>>
>>>> Doesn't the same thing happen when you uninstall Fx or TB?
>>>
>>> I Thunderbird's or Firefox's uninstaller does not optionally offer to
>>> delete data files, like profile folders, then I would consider them to
>>> be dirty uninstallers.
>>
>> That's intentional, the uninstall keeps the email that any user might
>> have downloaded. Thus if you later install again, the mails are there.
> 
> So, a dirty uninstall.  It should ask if you want to keep or discard.

Asking is a complication, you then need to add a bunch of complicated 
code. Just play safe and do not erase user data. In a multiuser 
environment you'd have to ask every single user.

> 
> Also, if using IMAP, all the e-mails are still there no matter which
> IMAP client you [re]install on any platform.  Only if you use POP are
> the e-mails local.  I left POP more than 2 decades ago.

No, you may move mail to local folders, manually or with filters. You 
can have filters, and configurations. On multiple users.

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#182728

On Sun, 2 Mar 2025 14:07:04 -0600, VanguardLH wrote:

> If Skype was uninstalled, why is there still a user profile folder for
> C:\Users\<user>\AppData\Roaming\Skype?

It's not there, but I uninstalled using Geek Uninstaller.

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#182734

s|b <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

> VanguardLH wrote:
> 
>> If Skype was uninstalled, why is there still a user profile folder for
>> C:\Users\<user>\AppData\Roaming\Skype?
> 
> It's not there, but I uninstalled using Geek Uninstaller.

Just checking: Do you now, or did you ever, have MS Office (or MS 365
with the local programs) installed?  That includes components for Skype.

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#182743

On Sun, 2 Mar 2025 22:31:11 -0600, VanguardLH wrote:

> Just checking: Do you now, or did you ever, have MS Office (or MS 365
> with the local programs) installed?  That includes components for Skype.

Nope, I've been using LibreOffice for years.

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#182744

On Mon, 03 Mar 2025 17:21:31 +0100, "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

>On Sun, 2 Mar 2025 22:31:11 -0600, VanguardLH wrote:
>
>> Just checking: Do you now, or did you ever, have MS Office (or MS 365
>> with the local programs) installed?  That includes components for Skype.
>
>Nope, I've been using LibreOffice for years.

 Nit to butt in (okay, so I am) but was Messy Orifice ever included in
the bloat that came with your new computer when you bought it? 

 It's included as a trial offer on many Windosed boxes. My 2013
machine still has it because I'm too lazy to bin the thing. :)

                                                                J.

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#182760

On Mon, 03 Mar 2025 16:53:52 +0000, John wrote:

>  Nit to butt in (okay, so I am) but was Messy Orifice ever included in
> the bloat that came with your new computer when you bought it? 
> 
>  It's included as a trial offer on many Windosed boxes. My 2013
> machine still has it because I'm too lazy to bin the thing. :)

Not to my knowledge. I chose the components myself, but let the shop
assemble it and install W11. Normally they don't install any other crap.

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#182747

s|b <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

> VanguardLH wrote:
> 
>> Just checking: Do you now, or did you ever, have MS Office (or MS 365
>> with the local programs) installed?  That includes components for Skype.
> 
> Nope, I've been using LibreOffice for years.

I had MS Office, then MS 365, switched to LibreOffice for 2 years, and
switched back to MS Office.  Back when Microsoft was pushing Skype
updates inside of Windows updates, but Skype was already uninstalled,
was so long ago that I cannot remember what I used back then for an
office suite.

Back then, I noticed Windows updates were dumping files for Skype onto
my desktop.  The Skype program was not getting reinstalled.  Just some
ancilliary or library files were reappearing.  Microsoft embedding stuff
in their Windows updates that are not described in their release notes
is not a new behavior nor an old behavior no longer committed.  When
researching a problem, or how to get rid of some unwanted "feature", you
find out it was delivered in a Windows update, but Microsoft didn't
inform anyone about it.  You end up at AskWoody, or other web sites that
analyze what changes an update commits.

With program installs, sometimes you get a custom option where you can
elect what components to include in the installation.  Not so with
Windows updates.  Microsoft assumes all their users are idiots which
cannot understand the technical aspects or jargon of updates.  It's aAll
or nothing, but nowadays nothing just means later.  This is in addition
to secret updates aka stealth updates you are never informed about.

https://mezha.media/en/2024/11/12/microsoft-covertly-updates-windows-10-to-force-users-to-upgrade-to-the-latest-version-of-windows-11/
https://www.techradar.com/computing/windows/microsoft-stealthily-installs-windows-10-update-to-nag-you-to-upgrade-to-windows-11-and-not-for-the-first-time

As with the embedded crap covertly bundled in a Windows update, you get
updates like this that users will see as just an update to the Windows
Update service, and think it's okay, and even wanted.  Are stealth
updates new?  Nope; see:

https://www.askwoody.com/newsletter/microsoft-updates-windows-without-users-consent/
dated 2007

Yes, the computer is your physical property, but Windows remains the
property of Microsoft, and they change their property however and
whenever they want.

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