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| First post | 2026-09-29 21:24 +0200 |
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Editing PDF files "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-29 21:24 +0200
Re: Editing PDF files "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-29 20:45 +0100
Re: Editing PDF files knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2026-09-29 17:13 -0400
Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:43 +0200
Re: Editing PDF files T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 12:49 -0700
Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-30 12:21 +0200
Re: Editing PDF files "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-30 13:20 +0100
Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:44 +0200
Re: Editing PDF files T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 12:07 -0700
Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:46 +0200
Re: Editing PDF files "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-01 18:10 +0100
Re: Editing PDF files Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-01 13:35 -0400
Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 20:34 +0200
Re: Editing PDF files T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 11:46 -0700
Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 21:39 +0200
Re: Editing PDF files T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 14:18 -0700
Re: Editing PDF files PDF Files <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 21:05 +0100
Re: Editing PDF files Zaidy036 <Zaidy036@air.isp.spam> - 2026-09-29 18:26 -0400
Re: Editing PDF files T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 16:51 -0700
Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:48 +0200
Re: Editing PDF files T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 11:47 -0700
Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 21:40 +0200
Re: Editing PDF files T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 14:19 -0700
Re: Editing PDF files "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-30 01:27 +0100
Re: Editing PDF files T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 20:56 -0700
Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:50 +0200
Re: Editing PDF files "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-09-30 00:34 -0400
Re: Editing PDF files john@jeason.cix.co.uk (John K.Eason) - 2026-09-30 00:04 +0100
Re: Editing PDF files "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-09-29 20:15 -0400
Re: Editing PDF files "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-30 01:30 +0100
Re: Editing PDF files Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-30 00:26 -0400
Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:55 +0200
Re: Editing PDF files VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2026-09-29 22:45 -0500
Re: Editing PDF files "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-09-30 10:23 -0400
Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 13:01 +0200
Re: Editing PDF files Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-30 00:23 -0400
Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 13:05 +0200
Re: Editing PDF files "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-01 18:53 +0100
Re: Editing PDF files "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-10-01 17:40 +0200
Re: Editing PDF files Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-01 14:09 -0400
Re: Editing PDF files Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-10-01 18:21 +0000
Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 20:30 +0200
Re: Editing PDF files Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-10-01 18:58 +0000
Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 21:42 +0200
Re: Editing PDF files knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2026-10-01 21:35 -0400
Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-02 11:56 +0200
Re: Editing PDF files "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-10-02 16:12 +0200
Re: Editing PDF files Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-09-30 06:53 +0000
Re: Editing PDF files Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-09-30 07:34 +0000
Re: Editing PDF files Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-30 13:58 +0100
Re: Editing PDF files knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2026-09-30 09:30 -0400
Re: Editing PDF files "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-09-30 10:36 -0400
Re: Editing PDF files PDF Files <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 18:17 +0100
Re: Editing PDF files knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2026-09-30 16:07 -0400
Re: Editing PDF files "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-01 01:59 +0100
Re: Editing PDF files Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-10-01 06:57 +0000
Re: Editing PDF files Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-30 18:26 +0000
Re: Editing PDF files VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2026-09-30 13:25 -0500
Re: Editing PDF files Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-30 18:39 +0000
Re: Editing PDF files Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-09-30 20:26 +0000
Re: Editing PDF files Philip Herlihy <nothing@invalid.com> - 2026-09-30 10:48 +0100
Re: Editing PDF files "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-09-30 10:50 -0400
Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 13:11 +0200
Re: Editing PDF files "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-10-01 13:44 -0400
Re: Editing PDF files Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-30 11:14 +0100
Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 13:12 +0200
Re: Editing PDF files Ammammata <ammammata@tiscali.it> - 2026-09-30 12:24 +0200
Re: Editing PDF files Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-30 16:08 -0400
Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 13:13 +0200
Re: Editing PDF files Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-01 09:52 -0400
Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 20:33 +0200
Re: Editing PDF files Arkadiusz 'Black Fox' Artyszuk <asdfadsasdfa@atomicmail.io> - 2026-10-02 12:41 +0200
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-01 18:21 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <119mfbv.175k.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #196447 |
Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote: > On Thu, 10/1/2026 11:40 AM, s|b wrote: > > On Wed, 30 Sep 2026 00:23:55 -0400, Paul wrote: > > > >> Apparently Firefox browser can fill a form.pdf . > > 8< snip >8 > > > > I was about to suggest this, but I wasn't sure. > > I tested it, on my sample Acroform document and > modern Firefox filled the boxes OK. I didn't test the whole > cycle though (save and reopen elsewhere). For Carlos' teacher friend, it makes more sense to test in Edge, as she's unlikely to have (a need for) an extra browser on her/their system(s). [...]
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-01 20:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <ni7n60Fe6mU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #196448 |
On 2026-10-01 20:21, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
>> On Thu, 10/1/2026 11:40 AM, s|b wrote:
>>> On Wed, 30 Sep 2026 00:23:55 -0400, Paul wrote:
>>>
>>>> Apparently Firefox browser can fill a form.pdf .
>>> 8< snip >8
>>>
>>> I was about to suggest this, but I wasn't sure.
>>
>> I tested it, on my sample Acroform document and
>> modern Firefox filled the boxes OK. I didn't test the whole
>> cycle though (save and reopen elsewhere).
>
> For Carlos' teacher friend, it makes more sense to test in Edge, as
> she's unlikely to have (a need for) an extra browser on her/their
> system(s).
>
> [...]
Besides Edge, she has Chrome and Firefox.
I installed FFx because she complained about too many adverts in some
web pages. So FFx + Ublock origin.
I installed Chrome because that's the easiest when using Google for
Groups. She is most familiar with this one.
I don't think she uses Edge except by accident.
She says she is going to install Word, she is finding LO hard to get
used to. However, the only computer provided by her employer for the
teachers in that school has LO, not Word.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺.
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-01 18:58 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <119mhgn.1a1k.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #196450 |
Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > On 2026-10-01 20:21, Frank Slootweg wrote: > > Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote: > >> On Thu, 10/1/2026 11:40 AM, s|b wrote: > >>> On Wed, 30 Sep 2026 00:23:55 -0400, Paul wrote: > >>> > >>>> Apparently Firefox browser can fill a form.pdf . > >>> 8< snip >8 > >>> > >>> I was about to suggest this, but I wasn't sure. > >> > >> I tested it, on my sample Acroform document and > >> modern Firefox filled the boxes OK. I didn't test the whole > >> cycle though (save and reopen elsewhere). > > > > For Carlos' teacher friend, it makes more sense to test in Edge, as > > she's unlikely to have (a need for) an extra browser on her/their > > system(s). > > > > [...] > > Besides Edge, she has Chrome and Firefox. > > I installed FFx because she complained about too many adverts in some > web pages. So FFx + Ublock origin. > > I installed Chrome because that's the easiest when using Google for > Groups. She is most familiar with this one. > > I don't think she uses Edge except by accident. Thanks. I didn't know/realize that you were her Administrator. But I should have guessed! :-) > She says she is going to install Word, she is finding LO hard to get > used to. However, the only computer provided by her employer for the > teachers in that school has LO, not Word.
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-01 21:42 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <ni7rccFe6mU5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #196457 |
On 2026-10-01 20:58, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2026-10-01 20:21, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>>> Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 10/1/2026 11:40 AM, s|b wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 30 Sep 2026 00:23:55 -0400, Paul wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Apparently Firefox browser can fill a form.pdf .
>>>>> 8< snip >8
>>>>>
>>>>> I was about to suggest this, but I wasn't sure.
>>>>
>>>> I tested it, on my sample Acroform document and
>>>> modern Firefox filled the boxes OK. I didn't test the whole
>>>> cycle though (save and reopen elsewhere).
>>>
>>> For Carlos' teacher friend, it makes more sense to test in Edge, as
>>> she's unlikely to have (a need for) an extra browser on her/their
>>> system(s).
>>>
>>> [...]
>>
>> Besides Edge, she has Chrome and Firefox.
>>
>> I installed FFx because she complained about too many adverts in some
>> web pages. So FFx + Ublock origin.
>>
>> I installed Chrome because that's the easiest when using Google for
>> Groups. She is most familiar with this one.
>>
>> I don't think she uses Edge except by accident.
>
> Thanks. I didn't know/realize that you were her Administrator. But I
> should have guessed! :-)
:-)
Friendly administrator, I don't have any official relationship. But yes,
I bought her laptop, and did all the initialization.
>
>> She says she is going to install Word, she is finding LO hard to get
>> used to. However, the only computer provided by her employer for the
>> teachers in that school has LO, not Word.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺.
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| From | knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-01 21:35 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <119n1oe$1moi1$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #196450 |
On 10/01/2026 2:30 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote: > On 2026-10-01 20:21, Frank Slootweg wrote: >> Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote: >>> On Thu, 10/1/2026 11:40 AM, s|b wrote: >>>> On Wed, 30 Sep 2026 00:23:55 -0400, Paul wrote: >>>> >>>>> Apparently Firefox browser can fill a form.pdf . >>>> 8< snip >8 >>>> >>>> I was about to suggest this, but I wasn't sure. >>> >>> I tested it, on my sample Acroform document and >>> modern Firefox filled the boxes OK. I didn't test the whole >>> cycle though (save and reopen elsewhere). >> >> Â Â For Carlos' teacher friend, it makes more sense to test in Edge, as >> she's unlikely to have (a need for) an extra browser on her/their >> system(s). >> >> [...] > > Besides Edge, she has Chrome and Firefox. > > I installed FFx because she complained about too many adverts in some > web pages. So FFx + Ublock origin. > > I installed Chrome because that's the easiest when using Google for > Groups. She is most familiar with this one. > > I don't think she uses Edge except by accident. > > > She says she is going to install Word, she is finding LO hard to get > used to. However, the only computer provided by her employer for the > teachers in that school has LO, not Word. > If you really want to mess her up install word and try to teach her about the ribbon menu labyrinth
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-02 11:56 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <ni9delF79ogU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #196474 |
On 2026-10-02 03:35, knuttle wrote:
> On 10/01/2026 2:30 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> If you really want to mess her up install word and try to teach her
> about the ribbon menu labyrinth
She has been using word for 6 years now.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺.
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| From | "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-02 16:12 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <ni9sdoFaii8U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #196450 |
On Thu, 1 Oct 2026 20:30:24 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: > I installed FFx Fx (-; -- Horum omnium fortissimi sunt Belgae. - Julius Caesar
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| From | Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-09-30 06:53 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <119ibla$2tf$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #196274 |
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > A friend (a teacher) has a problem with PDF files. > > Management sends her files in PDF format which she is supposed to edit > and fill with names and data and send back. I asked chatgpt and Word can > directly edit PDF files, with some limitations. I don't have word (nor > she unless she pays it herlself), so I can't try myself. Management does > not supply the employees with software nor laptops. Some cheek. > > The Libre Office method is open in LO Draw, select the text, and copy to > a new LO Writer document. But each line is separate, text doesn't flow. > > I wonder if there is a better or easier method. > Print -> edit by hand -> scan -> send Maybe not easier nor better, but may send a message to management.
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| From | Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-09-30 07:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <119ie1p$u0i$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #196307 |
Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: > Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >> A friend (a teacher) has a problem with PDF files. >> >> Management sends her files in PDF format which she is supposed to edit >> and fill with names and data and send back. I asked chatgpt and Word can >> directly edit PDF files, with some limitations. I don't have word (nor >> she unless she pays it herlself), so I can't try myself. Management does >> not supply the employees with software nor laptops. Some cheek. >> >> The Libre Office method is open in LO Draw, select the text, and copy to >> a new LO Writer document. But each line is separate, text doesn't flow. >> >> I wonder if there is a better or easier method. >> > > Print -> edit by hand -> scan -> send > > Maybe not easier nor better, but may send a message to management. > > Or get a Mac. The free Preview app edits pdfs just fine ;^)
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| From | Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-09-30 13:58 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <ni4fc4Ffd3mU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #196307 |
Chris wrote: > Print -> edit by hand -> scan -> send > > Maybe not easier nor better, but may send a message to management. Sprinkle dust on your scanner beforehand so they can't easily OCR it back in, just to emphasise their error :-P
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| From | knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2026-09-30 09:30 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <119j2tm$8ve1$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #196337 |
On 09/30/2026 8:58 AM, Andy Burns wrote: > Sprinkle dust on your scanner beforehand so they can't easily OCR it > back in, just to emphasise their error 😛 Earlier I suggested filling in the forms using the Comments-Text function of the Adobe Reader, and they printing the form to a PDF printer. Am I the only one that uses this method to fill out PDF documents? I also use the same method to add citation information to documents.
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| From | "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-09-30 10:36 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <119j6q5$9cp5$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #196340 |
On 09/30/2026 9:30 AM, knuttle wrote: > On 09/30/2026 8:58 AM, Andy Burns wrote: >> Sprinkle dust on your scanner beforehand so they can't easily OCR it >> back in, just to emphasise their error 😛 > Earlier I suggested filling in the forms using the Comments-Text > function of the Adobe Reader, and they printing the form to a PDF printer. > > Am I the only one that uses this method to fill out PDF documents? > > > I also use the same method to add citation information to documents. That's always an option, but cumbersome for the end-user. As other's have mentioned, the lack of the sender sending an editable pdf document is the likely root cause of this problem. -- ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ
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| From | PDF Files <invalid@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-09-30 18:17 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <wFbvS.106$IWf1.75@fx13.iad> |
| In reply to | #196340 |
On 30/09/2026 14:30, knuttle wrote: > On 09/30/2026 8:58 AM, Andy Burns wrote: >> Sprinkle dust on your scanner beforehand so they can't easily OCR it >> back in, just to emphasise their error 😛 > Earlier I suggested filling in the forms using the Comments-Text > function of the Adobe Reader, and they printing the form to a PDF > printer. > > Am I the only one that uses this method to fill out PDF documents? > > > I also use the same method to add citation information to documents. I created a PDF sample form using LibreOffice. Try filling it in using any of the apps you have. By 'filling it', I don't mean add comments. I actually mean enter the details as you would on a paper form, but using the keyboard for a digital document. Download the file first in this case. <https://mega.nz/file/XhhX3b7D#ATBdHlS--bF9-XabQPy54VfpQTTQMisyTjHxWK36VxQ> The whole idea behind PDF files is that they should be 'portable', meaning that users should be able to open and fill them in on any device, including those running Windows, Linux, macOS, Android and iOS.
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| From | knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2026-09-30 16:07 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <119jq63$ii4c$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #196356 |
On 09/30/2026 1:17 PM, PDF Files wrote: > On 30/09/2026 14:30, knuttle wrote: >> On 09/30/2026 8:58 AM, Andy Burns wrote: >>> Sprinkle dust on your scanner beforehand so they can't easily OCR it >>> back in, just to emphasise their error 😛 >> Earlier I suggested filling in the forms using the Comments-Text >> function of the Adobe Reader, and they printing the form to a PDF >> printer. >> >> Am I the only one that uses this method to fill out PDF documents? >> >> >> I also use the same method to add citation information to documents. > > > I created a PDF sample form using LibreOffice. Try filling it in using > any of the apps you have. By 'filling it', I don't mean add comments. I > actually mean enter the details as you would on a paper form, but using > the keyboard for a digital document. Download the file first in this case. > > <https://mega.nz/file/XhhX3b7D#ATBdHlS--bF9-XabQPy54VfpQTTQMisyTjHxWK36VxQ> > > The whole idea behind PDF files is that they should be 'portable', > meaning that users should be able to open and fill them in on any > device, including those running Windows, Linux, macOS, Android and iOS. When you save the PDF file file set to show comments the comments become a permanent part of the file.
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| From | "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-10-01 01:59 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <119kb9v$o3mu$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #196356 |
On 2026/9/30 18:17:32, PDF Files wrote: [] > The whole idea behind PDF files is that they should be 'portable', > meaning that users should be able to open and fill them in on any > device, including those running Windows, Linux, macOS, Android and iOS. > > > I think originally "open and _read_ them". The fill-in option was a later development. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "Bother," said the Borg, "we assimilated a Pooh."
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| From | Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-01 06:57 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <119l08s$udpq$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #196376 |
J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote: > On 2026/9/30 18:17:32, PDF Files wrote: > [] >> The whole idea behind PDF files is that they should be 'portable', >> meaning that users should be able to open and fill them in on any >> device, including those running Windows, Linux, macOS, Android and iOS. >> >> >> > I think originally "open and _read_ them". And maintain formatting or style. It was very common that word would substitute fonts or reformat page layouts in different computers. Your beautifully crafted document would be ruined. A pdf made sure it and stayed the same regardless of who was readin/printing the doc. > The fill-in option was a > later development. Correct.
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-09-30 18:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <119jr9n.36k.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #196340 |
knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 09/30/2026 8:58 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
> > Sprinkle dust on your scanner beforehand so they can't easily OCR it
> > back in, just to emphasise their error ?
>
> Earlier I suggested filling in the forms using the Comments-Text
> function of the Adobe Reader, and they printing the form to a PDF printer.
>
> Am I the only one that uses this method to fill out PDF documents?
No comment as I hardly ever (never?) have to fill in PDF forms.
$DRIFT ON
> I also use the same method to add citation information to documents.
Yes, I use such a method - but in Edge [1] - to add citation, etc.
information to documents.
[1] Click on the '[T]' ('Add text') on the menu bar.
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| From | VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> |
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| Date | 2026-09-30 13:25 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <f6kmpjm7owrr.dlg@v.nguard.lh> |
| In reply to | #196337 |
Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote: > Chris wrote: > >> Print -> edit by hand -> scan -> send >> >> Maybe not easier nor better, but may send a message to management. > > Sprinkle dust on your scanner beforehand so they can't easily OCR it > back in, just to emphasise their error :-P Misalign the sheet on the scanner. Skewed text is harder to OCR. And scan in black-n-white mode at low resolution to make the scanned image more grainy. I suspect if they don't have PDF software to create editable PDFs, or add fields for form data, that they probably don't have an OCR software, either. Could be a small school where budgeting is very tight. Could be this school, and its teachers, don't have scanners. But the teacher has the .pdf file, so could use a slew of PDF viewers/editors that can annotate PDFs, and she send back the annotated PDF however she got it.
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-09-30 18:39 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <119js1b.oic.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #196360 |
VanguardLH <V@nguard.lh> wrote: > Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote: > > > Chris wrote: > > > >> Print -> edit by hand -> scan -> send > >> > >> Maybe not easier nor better, but may send a message to management. > > > > Sprinkle dust on your scanner beforehand so they can't easily OCR it > > back in, just to emphasise their error :-P > > Misalign the sheet on the scanner. Skewed text is harder to OCR. And > scan in black-n-white mode at low resolution to make the scanned image > more grainy. > > I suspect if they don't have PDF software to create editable PDFs, or > add fields for form data, that they probably don't have an OCR software, > either. If they have Windows 11, they have - quite basic - 'OCR sofware', namely Snipping Tool. Whether they know that Snipping Tool has some basic OCR functionaly and know how to use it, is another matter. > Could be a small school where budgeting is very tight. Could > be this school, and its teachers, don't have scanners. But the teacher > has the .pdf file, so could use a slew of PDF viewers/editors that can > annotate PDFs, and she send back the annotated PDF however she got it. As I mentioned in another response, Edge can annotate PDFs, no need for other/additional sofware.
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| From | Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-09-30 20:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <119jra9$j185$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #196360 |
VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote: > Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote: > >> Chris wrote: >> >>> Print -> edit by hand -> scan -> send >>> >>> Maybe not easier nor better, but may send a message to management. >> >> Sprinkle dust on your scanner beforehand so they can't easily OCR it >> back in, just to emphasise their error :-P > > Misalign the sheet on the scanner. Skewed text is harder to OCR. And > scan in black-n-white mode at low resolution to make the scanned image > more grainy. > > I suspect if they don't have PDF software to create editable PDFs, or > add fields for form data, that they probably don't have an OCR software, > either. Could be a small school where budgeting is very tight. Could > be this school, and its teachers, don't have scanners. Even better. Send a photo >) > But the teacher > has the .pdf file, so could use a slew of PDF viewers/editors that can > annotate PDFs, and she send back the annotated PDF however she got it. >
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