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| Started by | micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> |
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| First post | 2026-07-18 13:36 -0400 |
| Last post | 2026-07-25 20:47 -0400 |
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How to print entire .txt file micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-18 13:36 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file Roger Mills <mills37.fslife@gmail.com> - 2026-07-18 18:59 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-07-18 18:21 +0000
Re: How to print entire .txt file micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-18 19:55 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-19 01:50 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-18 21:17 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-19 09:16 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-19 22:15 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-19 22:05 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-19 23:24 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-19 18:14 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-20 03:10 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-20 01:12 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-20 03:16 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-20 13:06 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-20 18:51 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-16 21:19 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-20 18:48 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file... PDF? Acrobat? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-07-19 09:17 +0800
Re: How to print entire .txt file... PDF? Acrobat? knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2026-07-19 07:27 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file... PDF? Acrobat? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-19 09:28 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file... PDF? Acrobat? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-07-19 15:33 -0700
Re: How to print entire .txt file Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-18 21:32 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file Print Text <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-18 19:30 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-18 21:48 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-20 13:11 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file... using PRINT command "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-07-19 03:11 +0800
Re: How to print entire .txt file... using PRINT command micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-20 07:19 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-18 15:13 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-18 21:48 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-18 22:03 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-07-19 08:48 +0800
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-19 22:50 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-19 22:06 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-19 23:24 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-20 01:16 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-20 03:26 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-19 22:57 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-07-20 07:45 +0000
Re: How to print entire .txt file micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-20 07:19 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-20 08:09 -0400
Getting UTF-8 in Agen, was: How to print entire .txt file micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-20 10:07 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-07-20 17:51 +0000
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-20 14:25 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-20 09:36 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-20 19:05 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-20 14:23 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-20 21:06 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-07-20 19:51 +0000
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-20 22:04 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-07-21 12:57 +0000
Re: How to print entire .txt file Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-21 11:38 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-21 19:47 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-07-21 19:00 +0000
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-21 21:19 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-07-21 17:53 +0000
Re: How to print entire .txt file "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-21 22:51 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-21 18:41 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-22 01:36 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file Sam E <no.email@here.invalid> - 2026-07-22 15:53 +0000
Re: How to print entire .txt file Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-07-22 14:16 +0000
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-23 11:05 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-07-23 13:42 +0000
OT buggy websites (was: Re: How to print entire .txt file) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-23 15:14 +0100
Re: OT buggy websites "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-23 18:45 +0200
Re: OT buggy websites "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-23 20:01 +0100
Re: OT buggy websites "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-23 22:22 +0200
Re: OT buggy websites micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-23 17:37 -0400
Re: OT buggy websites Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-23 20:24 -0400
Re: OT buggy websites (was: Re: How to print entire .txt file) Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2026-07-24 17:00 +0000
Re: OT buggy websites "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-24 19:36 +0100
Re: OT buggy websites Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2026-07-25 17:19 +0000
Re: OT buggy websites "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-25 21:39 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-23 11:07 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-07-23 13:41 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-23 19:55 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-07-24 01:10 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-24 14:21 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-07-24 09:32 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-24 10:09 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-24 21:49 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-07-24 15:15 -0700
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-25 12:57 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-07-25 08:15 -0700
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-25 19:14 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-07-25 11:03 -0700
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-25 21:17 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-07-25 16:05 -0700
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-26 15:04 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-07-26 12:36 -0700
Re: How to print entire .txt file Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-07-26 18:22 +0000
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-07-25 01:18 +0800
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-24 21:57 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-07-24 23:51 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-07-26 09:01 +0800
Re: How to print entire .txt file Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-07-24 10:25 +0000
Re: How to print entire .txt file "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-07-24 09:23 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-07-24 13:47 +0000
Re: How to print entire .txt file "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-07-25 00:05 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-07-25 10:11 +0000
Re: How to print entire .txt file "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-07-25 11:30 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2026-07-18 17:44 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-18 21:46 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-18 22:54 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-19 00:09 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-20 10:29 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2026-07-19 09:41 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-07-19 16:54 +0000
Re: How to print entire .txt file micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-20 07:35 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-20 07:44 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-20 19:12 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-07-20 22:51 +1000
Re: How to print entire .txt file micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-20 09:30 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-20 19:30 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-20 19:13 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-19 09:27 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-19 10:18 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-20 07:53 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-20 12:55 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-20 14:17 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-20 19:48 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-20 19:20 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-20 14:32 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-20 09:27 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-20 13:22 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file JJ <jj4public@gmail.com> - 2026-07-19 17:40 +0700
Re: How to print entire .txt file micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-20 09:27 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-24 08:34 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-24 14:40 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-24 20:06 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-24 15:17 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-24 22:01 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-24 22:09 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-24 23:15 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-24 19:56 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-25 13:05 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-25 21:48 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-24 23:09 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-07-25 10:26 +0000
Re: How to print entire .txt file "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-25 15:27 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-25 11:49 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-25 17:17 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-25 19:27 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-25 21:58 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-07-26 18:28 +0000
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-26 22:03 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-26 21:32 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-26 22:48 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-27 14:50 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-27 20:10 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-02 20:42 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-26 16:11 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-25 17:02 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-07-26 18:42 +0000
Re: How to print entire .txt file Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-26 16:32 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-26 18:02 -0500
Re: How to print entire .txt file Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2026-07-20 15:53 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-20 20:02 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2026-07-23 20:02 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-23 20:26 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-23 17:47 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-23 21:12 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-24 14:48 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-24 14:35 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-21 22:58 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2026-07-23 20:04 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-25 01:01 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-25 20:47 -0400
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| From | "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2026-07-20 19:48 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: How to print entire .txt file |
| Message-ID | <113lqhr$1c3vn$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #194635 |
On 2026/7/20 12:53:9, micky wrote: [] > I have one in the prior computer AxD, or HxD or something. In a way I > wanted to copy over ever piece of software from the prior computer, in > the same way I copied almost all my data**, but I didn't. You mean just by copying over a folder structure? You haven't really been able to do that since about Windows 95; unfortunately, when you install software, as well as making its own folder and putting files in it, it also scatters other files elsewhere, makes changes to the registry, adds to the startup menu, and goodness knows what else; just copying like data, you're almost certain to miss something somewhere. And the settings it tweaks are probably different for different versions of Windows, too. If they offer a "portable" version, those _may_ be copyable, but most software even if it had a portable option doesn't _use_ that version by default. [] > Okay, installed, but the time-consuming part is looking for the problem > bytes. I'll get back to you. Doesn't HXD show the text representation alongside the hex values? I'd look in that for the text just before the problem area, then see what follows it. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf > > Won't you come into the garden? I would like my roses to see you. -Richard
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-20 19:20 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: How to print entire .txt file |
| Message-ID | <113magk$1ip1o$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #194664 |
On Mon, 7/20/2026 2:48 PM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
> On 2026/7/20 12:53:9, micky wrote:
> []
>> I have one in the prior computer AxD, or HxD or something. In a way I
>> wanted to copy over ever piece of software from the prior computer, in
>> the same way I copied almost all my data**, but I didn't.
>
> You mean just by copying over a folder structure? You haven't really
> been able to do that since about Windows 95; unfortunately, when you
> install software, as well as making its own folder and putting files in
> it, it also scatters other files elsewhere, makes changes to the
> registry, adds to the startup menu, and goodness knows what else; just
> copying like data, you're almost certain to miss something somewhere.
> And the settings it tweaks are probably different for different versions
> of Windows, too.
>
> If they offer a "portable" version, those _may_ be copyable, but most
> software even if it had a portable option doesn't _use_ that version by
> default.
> []
>> Okay, installed, but the time-consuming part is looking for the problem
>> bytes. I'll get back to you.
>
> Doesn't HXD show the text representation alongside the hex values? I'd
> look in that for the text just before the problem area, then see what
> follows it.
>
This is my HxD storage location.
S:\HxD
HxD64.exe 6,905,856 bytes
Settings\
HxD Hex Editor.ini 5,388 bytes
HxD Hex Editor.lang 3 bytes ("ENU")
What does that suggest ?
*******
If HxD64.exe is elevated, it can do some raw I/O on the disk.
When run unelevated, you use it on your various "data files".
If you make changes that affect the file size of a "data file",
the program keeps the original data file as "data.bin.bak" while
a new data.bin is created with the edits having taken effect.
Depending on the file size, there may not be room on the
volume to do that.
Paul
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2026-07-20 14:32 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: How to print entire .txt file |
| Message-ID | <nc6irdF167tU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #194569 |
On 2026-07-19 03:46, micky wrote:
> Well, I hope to reply to each of you, but because you are the last
> poster replying directly to me, I will say what's probably the end of
> the story.
>
> I sent an email to myself with the file attached. Opened it with
> Notepad++ on the upstairs win10 computer, and printed it from there, and
> it printed completely on the first try!!!! 2-sided even, Almost 13
> pages, 7 sheets.
>
> A victory for win10!!!. I hope you win10 guys appreciate this.
>
> And a good reazon for me not to have retired my older computer.
If the email client interpreted the file as "text", it then can do a
translation on the text, in effect cleaning out the codes that break
printing.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-20 09:27 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: How to print entire .txt file |
| Message-ID | <113l7n6$1779k$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #194640 |
On Mon, 7/20/2026 8:32 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote: > On 2026-07-19 03:46, micky wrote: >> Well, I hope to reply to each of you, but because you are the last >> poster replying directly to me, I will say what's probably the end of >> the story. >> >> I sent an email to myself with the file attached. Opened it with >> Notepad++ on the upstairs win10 computer, and printed it from there, and >> it printed completely on the first try!!!! 2-sided even, Almost 13 >> pages, 7 sheets. >> >> A victory for win10!!!. I hope you win10 guys appreciate this. >> >> And a good reazon for me not to have retired my older computer. > > If the email client interpreted the file as "text", it then can do a translation on the text, in effect cleaning out the codes that break printing. > It takes the SoftBank emoji and makes "three weird characters" from the three byte sequence it sees. This is not cleaning as such, just as ForteAgent converting UTF-8 messages into "text" by interpreting individual bytes using some other code page, is not cleaning. It's spew. The reason the older WhatsApp cannot be handled directly, is the Softbank emoji encoding is not a standard, so any "standard" interpreter will do the wrong thing when it hits them. If an individual byte happens to be an End-of-Text, you could cause a parser to die on the spot. And we'd need an expert to tell us how or why that is happening. Only the file Micky has, has this property. I got a WhatsApp sample, and the sample I got was in pretty good shape, so not all their _chat.txt are a mess. The emoji in my sample, were four byte ones. Only Micky can figure this out, as he has the file. These files apparently come from some database, so these are database records extracted and "placed in a text file". WhatsApp does not know or care, what character sequence is in each sample, and it is "up to the user to decide what to do with it". So rather than the claim that "they dropped all the formatting", it is rather a matter of just taking the content of a database entry, and "shoving" it into a text file. Paul
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| From | micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> |
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| Date | 2026-07-20 13:22 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: How to print entire .txt file |
| Message-ID | <osls5lte9dc7s3obpc1629oi7idfk1mf9b@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #194643 |
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Mon, 20 Jul 2026 09:27:02 -0400, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote: ..... > >It takes the SoftBank emoji and makes "three weird characters" from the >three byte sequence it sees. > >This is not cleaning as such, just as ForteAgent converting UTF-8 messages >into "text" by interpreting individual bytes using some other code page, >is not cleaning. It's spew. > >The reason the older WhatsApp cannot be handled directly, is the Softbank >emoji encoding is not a standard, so any "standard" interpreter will do >the wrong thing when it hits them. If an individual byte happens to be >an End-of-Text, you could cause a parser to die on the spot. And we'd need >an expert to tell us how or why that is happening. Only the file Micky has, >has this property. I got a WhatsApp sample, and the sample I got was >in pretty good shape, so not all their _chat.txt are a mess. The emoji in >my sample, were four byte ones. > >Only Micky can figure this out, as he has the file. > >These files apparently come from some database, so these are >database records extracted and "placed in a text file". WhatsApp >does not know or care, what character sequence is in each sample, >and it is "up to the user to decide what to do with it". So rather than >the claim that "they dropped all the formatting", it is rather a >matter of just taking the content of a database entry, and "shoving" >it into a text file. > > Paul Just ftr, I've returned the phone but I did read all these chats, including this problem one, in their original form on Whatsapp in the phone. They looked okay, I'm 95% sure I didn't see anything unusual, just English going back and forth. I admit I don't remember the emojies so maybe I forgot other stuff but I dont' think so. So it's something that looks good on the phone. My young friend is mad at me for reading his chats and for using the information to try to convince him he's being scammed (which he is, without a doubt), so I doubt I'll ever see them on his phone again.
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| From | JJ <jj4public@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-07-19 17:40 +0700 |
| Message-ID | <1cxdb8xsw671b$.1nj9xblv45no5.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #194539 |
On Sat, 18 Jul 2026 13:36:48 -0400, micky wrote: > I just tried an elevated cmd window with the command > > print "C:\Data\WhatsApp Chat with +1 (442) nnn-nnnn.txt" lpt1 > > and I get "Unable to initialize device PRN" which google says relates > to Python. I don't have Python. Do I want it?? Just 4 years ago, > within win10, I could print a file this way from the cmd box to a > printer without any of the printer software installed on my computer. No > mention of initializing or Python. Maybe Powershell will work better? > Nope, same error message. > > Is LPT1 the wrong nomenclature? I also tried it with the printer name, > the port name, and the IP address and got the same error message every > time. You'll need to use `net use` to map a network shared printer to a new DOS device name. Use `net view \\computername` to get the shared printer name on that <computername>. If I'm not mistaken, a shared printer which is not mapped via `net use` won't have a DOS device name. You can use `net use` to check whether or not, a shared printer is already mapped and has an assigned DOS device name.
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| From | micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> |
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| Date | 2026-07-20 09:27 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <vr7s5lpafkc6luep2294n87elec7uj22f3@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #194580 |
In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Sun, 19 Jul 2026 17:40:34 +0700, JJ <jj4public@gmail.com> wrote: >On Sat, 18 Jul 2026 13:36:48 -0400, micky wrote: >> I just tried an elevated cmd window with the command >> >> print "C:\Data\WhatsApp Chat with +1 (442) nnn-nnnn.txt" lpt1 >> >> and I get "Unable to initialize device PRN" which google says relates >> to Python. I don't have Python. Do I want it?? Just 4 years ago, >> within win10, I could print a file this way from the cmd box to a >> printer without any of the printer software installed on my computer. No >> mention of initializing or Python. Maybe Powershell will work better? >> Nope, same error message. >> >> Is LPT1 the wrong nomenclature? I also tried it with the printer name, >> the port name, and the IP address and got the same error message every >> time. > >You'll need to use `net use` to map a network shared printer to a new DOS >device name. Use `net view \\computername` to get the shared printer name on >that <computername>. Okay. I will try this soon. >If I'm not mistaken, a shared printer which is not mapped via `net use` >won't have a DOS device name. Okay. >You can use `net use` to check whether or not, a shared printer is already >mapped and has an assigned DOS device name. Great. On further reflection, I remembered more about the last time I printed straight to the printer. Now that I'm retired from working, I've taken trips and on one I emailed what I wanted printed to a nearby computer or stationary store, and they printed it for not much money. But this last time I rented a room for 6 weeks with 2 other guys** (when the 3rd guy was away to do his student teaching, prior to graduation) and he kindly left behind a big fancy printer. I used that several times, even buying him a new ream of paper, but he didn't leave behind a router***, so of course I didn't use wifi. I think, yes, he had a USB cable dangling from the printer, and that's how I connected. No extra commands needed. Amazing how I forgot that part. I feared that with bypassing the driver, the formatting of what I had typed would be lost and it would be one long stream of letters, but it was just as I'd typed it. I feared that this time. Maybe I'll follow your instructions, send a page, and see what it looks like. **They were 36 and 38 and I was 75, but I'm very immature so we got along fine. ***In fact my temporary roommates didn't have home internet service, only their phones. A lot of people do everything on their phones -- ugh -- and I used my phone as a hotspot for the laptop. Works very well.
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| From | micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> |
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| Date | 2026-07-24 08:34 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <upj66lpddk5j2n8k4tjd01tsdrgij7idg8@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #194580 |
In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Sun, 19 Jul 2026 17:40:34 +0700, JJ
<jj4public@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 18 Jul 2026 13:36:48 -0400, micky wrote:
>> I just tried an elevated cmd window with the command
>>
>> print "C:\Data\WhatsApp Chat with +1 (442) nnn-nnnn.txt" lpt1
>>
>> and I get "Unable to initialize device PRN" which google says relates
>> to Python. I don't have Python. Do I want it?? Just 4 years ago,
>> within win10, I could print a file this way from the cmd box to a
>> printer without any of the printer software installed on my computer. No
>> mention of initializing or Python. Maybe Powershell will work better?
>> Nope, same error message.
>>
>> Is LPT1 the wrong nomenclature? I also tried it with the printer name,
>> the port name, and the IP address and got the same error message every
>> time.
>
>You'll need to use `net use` to map a network shared printer to a new DOS
>device name. Use `net view \\computername` to get the shared printer name on
>that <computername>.
>
>If I'm not mistaken, a shared printer which is not mapped via `net use`
>won't have a DOS device name.
>
>You can use `net use` to check whether or not, a shared printer is already
>mapped and has an assigned DOS device name.
Okay. I'll try that.
ASI (Artificial Semi-Intelligence said to use
net use lpt1: \\ComputerName\ShareName /persistent:yes
I had to hunt for my computername, that I had named it, and that was at
the top of Settings/System and also in Settings/System/About.
Then I had to figure out what a sharename was. Google said it was in my
printer properties under the share tab. Interestingly, the printer has
both Properties and Printer Properties. The first one didn't have a
share tab but the second one had one. I changed the printer to sharing
and named it Brother.
So the mapping command was
net use lpt1: \\Laptop-Dell2025\Brother /persistent:yes
And the print command was
copy "C:\Data\Jack\Whatsapptest.txt" lpt1
But, alas, nothing came out of the printer! Since iiuc this bypasses
the queue, there's no point in looking for it there.
Net use now shows Status OK,
Local: LPT1
Remote: \\Laptop-Dell2025\Brother
Network: Microsoft Windows Network
So it looks like it's on the network.
Any suggestions?
Despite google's reference to a password, I saw no place to define a
password, and I wouldn't want one anyhow. None of my neighbors want to
print on my printer.
It does suggest that my other (win10) computer might need a
different driver and offers to install one, but the 3 choices were just
ARM, x64, and x86 and the other computer is also x64.
Except for the fact that nothing came out of the printer: Now I think my
printer will always be on the network and it will only take copy
filename lpt1 to print.
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-24 14:40 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: How to print entire .txt file |
| Message-ID | <nch4q0Fluf9U3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #194747 |
On 2026-07-24 14:34, micky wrote:
> In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Sun, 19 Jul 2026 17:40:34 +0700, JJ
> <jj4public@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 18 Jul 2026 13:36:48 -0400, micky wrote:
>>> I just tried an elevated cmd window with the command
>>>
>>> print "C:\Data\WhatsApp Chat with +1 (442) nnn-nnnn.txt" lpt1
>>>
>>> and I get "Unable to initialize device PRN" which google says relates
>>> to Python. I don't have Python. Do I want it?? Just 4 years ago,
>>> within win10, I could print a file this way from the cmd box to a
>>> printer without any of the printer software installed on my computer. No
>>> mention of initializing or Python. Maybe Powershell will work better?
>>> Nope, same error message.
>>>
>>> Is LPT1 the wrong nomenclature? I also tried it with the printer name,
>>> the port name, and the IP address and got the same error message every
>>> time.
>>
>> You'll need to use `net use` to map a network shared printer to a new DOS
>> device name. Use `net view \\computername` to get the shared printer name on
>> that <computername>.
>>
>> If I'm not mistaken, a shared printer which is not mapped via `net use`
>> won't have a DOS device name.
>>
>> You can use `net use` to check whether or not, a shared printer is already
>> mapped and has an assigned DOS device name.
>
> Okay. I'll try that.
>
>
> ASI (Artificial Semi-Intelligence said to use
> net use lpt1: \\ComputerName\ShareName /persistent:yes
>
> I had to hunt for my computername, that I had named it, and that was at
> the top of Settings/System and also in Settings/System/About.
>
> Then I had to figure out what a sharename was. Google said it was in my
> printer properties under the share tab. Interestingly, the printer has
> both Properties and Printer Properties. The first one didn't have a
> share tab but the second one had one. I changed the printer to sharing
> and named it Brother.
>
> So the mapping command was
> net use lpt1: \\Laptop-Dell2025\Brother /persistent:yes
>
> And the print command was
> copy "C:\Data\Jack\Whatsapptest.txt" lpt1
No, this kind of command can no longer work. Rather, open the file in
some editor that shows it complete, then tell it to print choosing what
printer to use.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
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| From | "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-07-24 20:06 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: How to print entire .txt file |
| Message-ID | <1140d3r$t81c$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #194748 |
On 2026/7/24 13:40:32, Carlos E. R. wrote: > On 2026-07-24 14:34, micky wrote: [] >> So the mapping command was >> net use lpt1: \\Laptop-Dell2025\Brother /persistent:yes >> >> And the print command was >> copy "C:\Data\Jack\Whatsapptest.txt" lpt1 I was going to say "have you tried with a colon on the end (i. e. 'LPT1:')", but ... > > No, this kind of command can no longer work. Rather, open the file in ... I suspected that was the case. Does it not work because modern printers don't know what to do if fed plain ASCII, or because the now complex routing is a lot more, well, complex than a parallel (or serial!) port used to be? Or both? > some editor that shows it complete, then tell it to print choosing what > printer to use. > That's what, in effect, most of this thread has been about :-) > > -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf I hope you dream a pig.
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-24 15:17 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: How to print entire .txt file |
| Message-ID | <1140do0$ub3t$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #194760 |
On Fri, 7/24/2026 3:06 PM, J. P. Gilliver wrote: > On 2026/7/24 13:40:32, Carlos E. R. wrote: >> On 2026-07-24 14:34, micky wrote: > [] >>> So the mapping command was >>> net use lpt1: \\Laptop-Dell2025\Brother /persistent:yes >>> >>> And the print command was >>> copy "C:\Data\Jack\Whatsapptest.txt" lpt1 > > I was going to say "have you tried with a colon on the end (i. e. > 'LPT1:')", but ... >> >> No, this kind of command can no longer work. Rather, open the file in > > ... I suspected that was the case. Does it not work because modern > printers don't know what to do if fed plain ASCII, or because the now > complex routing is a lot more, well, complex than a parallel (or > serial!) port used to be? Or both? > >> some editor that shows it complete, then tell it to print choosing what >> printer to use. >> > That's what, in effect, most of this thread has been about :-) >> >> On the destination computer, your print would be shoved out the missing LPT interface. Before Oxford Semiconductor was bought and crushed, you would buy a card with one of their chips, to have LPT on PCI Express. It's quite possible the software is there, but the hardware is unlikely to be connected that way. If you had a dot matrix line paper printer connected to the remote printer port, then that might well work. It's not like there aren't other candidate interfaces, but they don't work at a byte stream level and likely have a more fancy protocol. IPP is one of them apparently. You wouldn't be using a "copy" command to drive the process. Paul
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-24 22:01 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: How to print entire .txt file |
| Message-ID | <nchulmFlufaU5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #194760 |
On 2026-07-24 21:06, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
> On 2026/7/24 13:40:32, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> On 2026-07-24 14:34, micky wrote:
> []
>>> So the mapping command was
>>> net use lpt1: \\Laptop-Dell2025\Brother /persistent:yes
>>>
>>> And the print command was
>>> copy "C:\Data\Jack\Whatsapptest.txt" lpt1
>
> I was going to say "have you tried with a colon on the end (i. e.
> 'LPT1:')", but ...
>>
>> No, this kind of command can no longer work. Rather, open the file in
>
> ... I suspected that was the case. Does it not work because modern
> printers don't know what to do if fed plain ASCII, or because the now
> complex routing is a lot more, well, complex than a parallel (or
> serial!) port used to be? Or both?
Because "copy file printer" can not handle complex situations like
Unicode or rich text.
And if there is an EOF character, it stops printing.
>
>> some editor that shows it complete, then tell it to print choosing what
>> printer to use.
>>
> That's what, in effect, most of this thread has been about :-)
>>
>>
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-07-24 22:09 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: How to print entire .txt file |
| Message-ID | <1140ka3$vq85$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #194764 |
On 2026/7/24 21:1:58, Carlos E. R. wrote: > On 2026-07-24 21:06, J. P. Gilliver wrote: [] >> I was going to say "have you tried with a colon on the end (i. e. >> 'LPT1:')", but ... >>> >>> No, this kind of command can no longer work. Rather, open the file in >> >> ... I suspected that was the case. Does it not work because modern >> printers don't know what to do if fed plain ASCII, or because the now >> complex routing is a lot more, well, complex than a parallel (or >> serial!) port used to be? Or both? > > Because "copy file printer" can not handle complex situations like > Unicode or rich text. > > And if there is an EOF character, it stops printing. > I forgot the /B switch that someone mentioned earlier in the thread. Without it, COPY is indeed a text command (old definition of text - probably 7-bit, ASCII!), and indeed the EOF character would end it. With the /B (binary) switch, I think COPY uses the file size to know when to stop. >> >>> some editor that shows it complete, then tell it to print choosing what >>> printer to use. >>> >> That's what, in effect, most of this thread has been about :-) >>> >>> > > -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf I used to dream of the day when linux was as stable as windows. Never did I imagine that parity would be achieved by windows declining into the chaos that engulfs and stifles linux. - mike <ham789@netzero.net> in alt.windows7.general, 2018-4-1
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-24 23:15 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: How to print entire .txt file |
| Message-ID | <nci2vdFluf9U11@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #194765 |
On 2026-07-24 23:09, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
> On 2026/7/24 21:1:58, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> On 2026-07-24 21:06, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
> []
>>> I was going to say "have you tried with a colon on the end (i. e.
>>> 'LPT1:')", but ...
>>>>
>>>> No, this kind of command can no longer work. Rather, open the file in
>>>
>>> ... I suspected that was the case. Does it not work because modern
>>> printers don't know what to do if fed plain ASCII, or because the now
>>> complex routing is a lot more, well, complex than a parallel (or
>>> serial!) port used to be? Or both?
>>
>> Because "copy file printer" can not handle complex situations like
>> Unicode or rich text.
>>
>> And if there is an EOF character, it stops printing.
>>
> I forgot the /B switch that someone mentioned earlier in the thread.
> Without it, COPY is indeed a text command (old definition of text -
> probably 7-bit, ASCII!), and indeed the EOF character would end it. With
> the /B (binary) switch, I think COPY uses the file size to know when to
> stop.
8 bit.
I remember pin printers handling the 8 bits, and having a bank of
switches to select the codepage, ie, what to print for chars above 127.
And this was in the 80's.
Older printers designed for non IBM-PCs might have been 7 bits.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-24 19:56 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: How to print entire .txt file |
| Message-ID | <1140u2r$12vt8$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #194767 |
On Fri, 7/24/2026 5:15 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote: > On 2026-07-24 23:09, J. P. Gilliver wrote: >> On 2026/7/24 21:1:58, Carlos E. R. wrote: >>> On 2026-07-24 21:06, J. P. Gilliver wrote: >> [] >>>> I was going to say "have you tried with a colon on the end (i. e. >>>> 'LPT1:')", but ... >>>>> >>>>> No, this kind of command can no longer work. Rather, open the file in >>>> >>>> ... I suspected that was the case. Does it not work because modern >>>> printers don't know what to do if fed plain ASCII, or because the now >>>> complex routing is a lot more, well, complex than a parallel (or >>>> serial!) port used to be? Or both? >>> >>> Because "copy file printer" can not handle complex situations like >>> Unicode or rich text. >>> >>> And if there is an EOF character, it stops printing. >>> >> I forgot the /B switch that someone mentioned earlier in the thread. >> Without it, COPY is indeed a text command (old definition of text - >> probably 7-bit, ASCII!), and indeed the EOF character would end it. With >> the /B (binary) switch, I think COPY uses the file size to know when to >> stop. > > 8 bit. > > I remember pin printers handling the 8 bits, and having a bank of switches to select the codepage, ie, what to print for chars above 127. And this was in the 80's. > > Older printers designed for non IBM-PCs might have been 7 bits. Common printers aren't reviewed in any useful way anymore, so who knows what protocols or parsing opportunities, work. I found a thread, where someone was claiming the copy to remote LPR1 trick, "drove" a printer that was USB connected on a remote machine. There have also been claims in the past, that some printers can print a PDF sent to them, and the printer has a PDF parser inside. But that is not likely to be a $100 inkjet. Previously, a party trick was handling PostScript and LPR, for the PostScript printers. Some of those printers had a 25MHz processor inside (RISC). Paul
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-25 13:05 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: How to print entire .txt file |
| Message-ID | <ncjjk6F2q15U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #194769 |
On 2026-07-25 01:56, Paul wrote:
> On Fri, 7/24/2026 5:15 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> On 2026-07-24 23:09, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>>> On 2026/7/24 21:1:58, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>> On 2026-07-24 21:06, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>>> []
>>>>> I was going to say "have you tried with a colon on the end (i. e.
>>>>> 'LPT1:')", but ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, this kind of command can no longer work. Rather, open the file in
>>>>>
>>>>> ... I suspected that was the case. Does it not work because modern
>>>>> printers don't know what to do if fed plain ASCII, or because the now
>>>>> complex routing is a lot more, well, complex than a parallel (or
>>>>> serial!) port used to be? Or both?
>>>>
>>>> Because "copy file printer" can not handle complex situations like
>>>> Unicode or rich text.
>>>>
>>>> And if there is an EOF character, it stops printing.
>>>>
>>> I forgot the /B switch that someone mentioned earlier in the thread.
>>> Without it, COPY is indeed a text command (old definition of text -
>>> probably 7-bit, ASCII!), and indeed the EOF character would end it. With
>>> the /B (binary) switch, I think COPY uses the file size to know when to
>>> stop.
>>
>> 8 bit.
>>
>> I remember pin printers handling the 8 bits, and having a bank of switches to select the codepage, ie, what to print for chars above 127. And this was in the 80's.
>>
>> Older printers designed for non IBM-PCs might have been 7 bits.
>
> Common printers aren't reviewed in any useful way anymore,
> so who knows what protocols or parsing opportunities, work.
>
> I found a thread, where someone was claiming the copy to remote LPR1
> trick, "drove" a printer that was USB connected on a remote machine.
>
> There have also been claims in the past, that some printers
> can print a PDF sent to them, and the printer has a PDF parser
> inside. But that is not likely to be a $100 inkjet. Previously,
> a party trick was handling PostScript and LPR, for the PostScript
> printers. Some of those printers had a 25MHz processor inside (RISC).
Yes, my printer can handle postscript sent directly to it. Raw copy as
is. Tried in Linux, probably works also in Windows. I think it also
copes with plain text, but not unicode; however, I don't remember if I
actually tested this and what was the result, that would be over 10
years ago.
Modern printers of the kind can handle PDF directly. I do not know if
this is instead of PS.
It is an HP laserjet printer.
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Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2026-07-25 21:48 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: How to print entire .txt file |
| Message-ID | <ncki7pF2q15U5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #194777 |
On 2026-07-25 13:05, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2026-07-25 01:56, Paul wrote:
>> On Fri, 7/24/2026 5:15 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>> On 2026-07-24 23:09, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>>>> On 2026/7/24 21:1:58, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>>> On 2026-07-24 21:06, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>>>> []
>>>>>> I was going to say "have you tried with a colon on the end (i. e.
>>>>>> 'LPT1:')", but ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, this kind of command can no longer work. Rather, open the
>>>>>>> file in
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ... I suspected that was the case. Does it not work because modern
>>>>>> printers don't know what to do if fed plain ASCII, or because the now
>>>>>> complex routing is a lot more, well, complex than a parallel (or
>>>>>> serial!) port used to be? Or both?
>>>>>
>>>>> Because "copy file printer" can not handle complex situations like
>>>>> Unicode or rich text.
>>>>>
>>>>> And if there is an EOF character, it stops printing.
>>>>>
>>>> I forgot the /B switch that someone mentioned earlier in the thread.
>>>> Without it, COPY is indeed a text command (old definition of text -
>>>> probably 7-bit, ASCII!), and indeed the EOF character would end it.
>>>> With
>>>> the /B (binary) switch, I think COPY uses the file size to know when to
>>>> stop.
>>>
>>> 8 bit.
>>>
>>> I remember pin printers handling the 8 bits, and having a bank of
>>> switches to select the codepage, ie, what to print for chars above
>>> 127. And this was in the 80's.
>>>
>>> Older printers designed for non IBM-PCs might have been 7 bits.
>>
>> Common printers aren't reviewed in any useful way anymore,
>> so who knows what protocols or parsing opportunities, work.
>>
>> I found a thread, where someone was claiming the copy to remote LPR1
>> trick, "drove" a printer that was USB connected on a remote machine.
>>
>> There have also been claims in the past, that some printers
>> can print a PDF sent to them, and the printer has a PDF parser
>> inside. But that is not likely to be a $100 inkjet. Previously,
>> a party trick was handling PostScript and LPR, for the PostScript
>> printers. Some of those printers had a 25MHz processor inside (RISC).
>
> Yes, my printer can handle postscript sent directly to it. Raw copy as
> is. Tried in Linux, probably works also in Windows. I think it also
> copes with plain text, but not unicode; however, I don't remember if I
> actually tested this and what was the result, that would be over 10
> years ago.
>
> Modern printers of the kind can handle PDF directly. I do not know if
> this is instead of PS.
>
> It is an HP laserjet printer.
(~10 year old printer)
I tested my printer, in Linux. I created a text file which had two
utf-chars, an then sent it to the printer, raw:
cer@Laicolasse:~> lpr -l p.txt
cer@Laicolasse:~> file p.txt
p.txt: Unicode text, UTF-8 text
cer@Laicolasse:~>
The text printed correctly, till it reached the utf-8 chars, then it
printed three garbage chars. And as the line was too long, it went over
the right edge.
I then converted to codepage 850, and tried again:
cer@Laicolasse:~> iconv --from-code=UTF-8 --to-code=CP850 p.txt -o p-850.txt
iconv: illegal input sequence at position 64
cer@Laicolasse:~> iconv -f UTF-8 -t CP850//TRANSLIT p.txt > p-850.txt
cer@Laicolasse:~> less p-850.txt
cer@Laicolasse:~> file p-850.txt
p-850.txt: ASCII text
cer@Laicolasse:~> lpr -l p-850.txt
cer@Laicolasse:~>
And it printed correctly.
Then I edited the file, adding the accented wovels and the ñ. It did not
print correctly because Linux text doesn't use LF+CR :-D
So again I edited the text to use a single short line:
"quotes" áéíóúÁÉÍÓÚñÑ¿?¡!
It only failed in printing some of the upper case wovels, possibly
because latin-1 doesn't have them.
So this laserjet printer can handle raw 8 bit text in codepage latin-1
correctly.
:-)
And I know it can also handle postscript sent raw to it, because I
remember testing this long ago. It must have some algorithm that detects
the type of data it receives and processes it correctly.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-24 23:09 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: How to print entire .txt file |
| Message-ID | <nci2l1Fluf9U10@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #194764 |
On 2026-07-24 22:01, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2026-07-24 21:06, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>> On 2026/7/24 13:40:32, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>> On 2026-07-24 14:34, micky wrote:
>> []
>>>> So the mapping command was
>>>> net use lpt1: \\Laptop-Dell2025\Brother /persistent:yes
>>>>
>>>> And the print command was
>>>> copy "C:\Data\Jack\Whatsapptest.txt" lpt1
>>
>> I was going to say "have you tried with a colon on the end (i. e.
>> 'LPT1:')", but ...
>>>
>>> No, this kind of command can no longer work. Rather, open the file in
>>
>> ... I suspected that was the case. Does it not work because modern
>> printers don't know what to do if fed plain ASCII, or because the now
>> complex routing is a lot more, well, complex than a parallel (or
>> serial!) port used to be? Or both?
>
> Because "copy file printer" can not handle complex situations like
> Unicode or rich text.
>
> And if there is an EOF character, it stops printing.
Oh, I forgot that as the copy operation bypasses the driver, current
printers might not be capable of directly printing plain text. Maybe
they only do the first 255 chars. Somehow selecting a fixed codepage.
Very probably they don't handle unicode.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-25 10:26 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: How to print entire .txt file |
| Message-ID | <1142a1u.14rc.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #194760 |
J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote: > On 2026/7/24 13:40:32, Carlos E. R. wrote: > > On 2026-07-24 14:34, micky wrote: > [] > >> So the mapping command was > >> net use lpt1: \\Laptop-Dell2025\Brother /persistent:yes > >> > >> And the print command was > >> copy "C:\Data\Jack\Whatsapptest.txt" lpt1 > > I was going to say "have you tried with a colon on the end (i. e. > 'LPT1:')", but ... > > > > No, this kind of command can no longer work. Rather, open the file in > > ... I suspected that was the case. Does it not work because modern > printers don't know what to do if fed plain ASCII, or because the now > complex routing is a lot more, well, complex than a parallel (or > serial!) port used to be? Or both? Exactly. A 'modern' (read: last two decades or so) printer expects to be fed PCL (Printer Command Language) or some such protocol by a printer driver. The LPT device does not have such a protocol. > > some editor that shows it complete, then tell it to print choosing what > > printer to use. > > > That's what, in effect, most of this thread has been about :-)
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| From | "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-07-25 15:27 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: How to print entire .txt file |
| Message-ID | <1142h48$1h9mu$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #194775 |
On 2026/7/25 11:26:46, Frank Slootweg wrote: > J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote: [] >> ... I suspected that was the case. Does it not work because modern >> printers don't know what to do if fed plain ASCII, or because the now >> complex routing is a lot more, well, complex than a parallel (or >> serial!) port used to be? Or both? > > Exactly. A 'modern' (read: last two decades or so) printer expects to > be fed PCL (Printer Command Language) or some such protocol by a printer > driver. The LPT device does not have such a protocol. Is your "Exactly" because they don't know what to do with plain ASCII, or because you are agreeing with the routing suggestion (by which I meant USB, wifi, network etc. ports)? I _think_ you meant the former. So what _would_ a modern printer do if sent some plain ASCII (including newlines, and perhaps a Ctrl-Z at the end) - assuming the routing via USB or whatever was handled? [] -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf They are public servants, so we will threat them rather as Flashman treats servants. - Stephen Fry on some people's attitudo to the BBC, in Radio Times, 3-9 July 2010
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