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| Started by | micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> |
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| First post | 2026-07-18 13:36 -0400 |
| Last post | 2026-07-25 20:47 -0400 |
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How to print entire .txt file micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-18 13:36 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file Roger Mills <mills37.fslife@gmail.com> - 2026-07-18 18:59 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-07-18 18:21 +0000
Re: How to print entire .txt file micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-18 19:55 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-19 01:50 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-18 21:17 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-19 09:16 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-19 22:15 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-19 22:05 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-19 23:24 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-19 18:14 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-20 03:10 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-20 01:12 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-20 03:16 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-20 13:06 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-20 18:51 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-16 21:19 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-20 18:48 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file... PDF? Acrobat? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-07-19 09:17 +0800
Re: How to print entire .txt file... PDF? Acrobat? knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2026-07-19 07:27 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file... PDF? Acrobat? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-19 09:28 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file... PDF? Acrobat? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-07-19 15:33 -0700
Re: How to print entire .txt file Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-18 21:32 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file Print Text <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-18 19:30 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-18 21:48 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-20 13:11 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file... using PRINT command "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-07-19 03:11 +0800
Re: How to print entire .txt file... using PRINT command micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-20 07:19 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-18 15:13 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-18 21:48 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-18 22:03 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-07-19 08:48 +0800
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-19 22:50 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-19 22:06 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-19 23:24 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-20 01:16 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-20 03:26 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-19 22:57 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-07-20 07:45 +0000
Re: How to print entire .txt file micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-20 07:19 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-20 08:09 -0400
Getting UTF-8 in Agen, was: How to print entire .txt file micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-20 10:07 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-07-20 17:51 +0000
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-20 14:25 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-20 09:36 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-20 19:05 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-20 14:23 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-20 21:06 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-07-20 19:51 +0000
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-20 22:04 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-07-21 12:57 +0000
Re: How to print entire .txt file Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-21 11:38 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-21 19:47 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-07-21 19:00 +0000
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-21 21:19 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-07-21 17:53 +0000
Re: How to print entire .txt file "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-21 22:51 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-21 18:41 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-22 01:36 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file Sam E <no.email@here.invalid> - 2026-07-22 15:53 +0000
Re: How to print entire .txt file Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-07-22 14:16 +0000
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-23 11:05 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-07-23 13:42 +0000
OT buggy websites (was: Re: How to print entire .txt file) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-23 15:14 +0100
Re: OT buggy websites "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-23 18:45 +0200
Re: OT buggy websites "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-23 20:01 +0100
Re: OT buggy websites "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-23 22:22 +0200
Re: OT buggy websites micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-23 17:37 -0400
Re: OT buggy websites Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-23 20:24 -0400
Re: OT buggy websites (was: Re: How to print entire .txt file) Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2026-07-24 17:00 +0000
Re: OT buggy websites "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-24 19:36 +0100
Re: OT buggy websites Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2026-07-25 17:19 +0000
Re: OT buggy websites "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-25 21:39 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-23 11:07 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-07-23 13:41 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-23 19:55 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-07-24 01:10 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-24 14:21 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-07-24 09:32 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-24 10:09 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-24 21:49 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-07-24 15:15 -0700
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-25 12:57 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-07-25 08:15 -0700
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-25 19:14 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-07-25 11:03 -0700
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-25 21:17 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-07-25 16:05 -0700
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-26 15:04 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-07-26 12:36 -0700
Re: How to print entire .txt file Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-07-26 18:22 +0000
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-07-25 01:18 +0800
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-24 21:57 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-07-24 23:51 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-07-26 09:01 +0800
Re: How to print entire .txt file Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-07-24 10:25 +0000
Re: How to print entire .txt file "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-07-24 09:23 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-07-24 13:47 +0000
Re: How to print entire .txt file "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-07-25 00:05 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-07-25 10:11 +0000
Re: How to print entire .txt file "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-07-25 11:30 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2026-07-18 17:44 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-18 21:46 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-18 22:54 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-19 00:09 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-20 10:29 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2026-07-19 09:41 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-07-19 16:54 +0000
Re: How to print entire .txt file micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-20 07:35 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-20 07:44 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-20 19:12 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-07-20 22:51 +1000
Re: How to print entire .txt file micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-20 09:30 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-20 19:30 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-20 19:13 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-19 09:27 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-19 10:18 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-20 07:53 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-20 12:55 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-20 14:17 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-20 19:48 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-20 19:20 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-20 14:32 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-20 09:27 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-20 13:22 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file JJ <jj4public@gmail.com> - 2026-07-19 17:40 +0700
Re: How to print entire .txt file micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-20 09:27 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-24 08:34 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-24 14:40 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-24 20:06 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-24 15:17 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-24 22:01 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-24 22:09 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-24 23:15 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-24 19:56 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-25 13:05 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-25 21:48 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-24 23:09 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-07-25 10:26 +0000
Re: How to print entire .txt file "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-25 15:27 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-25 11:49 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-25 17:17 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-25 19:27 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-25 21:58 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-07-26 18:28 +0000
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-26 22:03 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-26 21:32 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-26 22:48 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-27 14:50 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-27 20:10 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-02 20:42 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-26 16:11 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-25 17:02 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-07-26 18:42 +0000
Re: How to print entire .txt file Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-26 16:32 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-26 18:02 -0500
Re: How to print entire .txt file Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2026-07-20 15:53 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-20 20:02 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2026-07-23 20:02 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-23 20:26 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-23 17:47 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-23 21:12 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-24 14:48 +0200
Re: How to print entire .txt file Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-24 14:35 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-21 22:58 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2026-07-23 20:04 +0100
Re: How to print entire .txt file Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-25 01:01 -0400
Re: How to print entire .txt file micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-07-25 20:47 -0400
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2026-07-22 14:16 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: How to print entire .txt file |
| Message-ID | <113qqbo.8gk.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #194706 |
J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote: > On 2026/7/21 18:53:55, Chris wrote: > > J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote: > >> On 2026/7/20 13:25:42, Carlos E. R. wrote: > >>> On 2026-07-20 13:19, micky wrote: > >> [] > >>>> FWIW, I use Forte Agent, which is text only, > >>> > >>> My signature is text only. You are using an obsolete client that doesn't > >>> understand modern text only posts (that use unicode) > >> [] > >> This is one of those disputes that will never be resolved; some people > >> consider anything containing character outside ASCII not to be text, > >> others (like you) still consider it text. > > > > It's not really a dispute, ASCII is only complete for English. In any > > And only American English at that; it included $ but not £, for example. > Back in the day, several devices substituted £ for $, or sometimes for # > - sometimes under control of a switch. To be fair, it doesn't really 'include' the US, nor 'exclude' the UK, because there are different dollar currencies and also different pound currencies. So just use the right three-letter currency names, i.e. USD, GBP, AUD, EGP, etc. and avoid any ambiguity. But yes, ASCII *is* US-centric. Even so centric that it assumes the 'A' equates to the US! :-) > > international context it is a poor compromise. That's why utf-8 is the > > standard. > > > _A_ standard. Exactly! > "A maze of twisty standards, all alike." (Now that's another link to > remote mainframes, for me.)
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-23 11:05 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: How to print entire .txt file |
| Message-ID | <nce3qdF781fU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #194713 |
On 2026-07-22 16:16, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>> On 2026/7/21 18:53:55, Chris wrote:
>>> J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>>>> On 2026/7/20 13:25:42, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>>> On 2026-07-20 13:19, micky wrote:
>>>> []
>>>>>> FWIW, I use Forte Agent, which is text only,
>>>>>
>>>>> My signature is text only. You are using an obsolete client that doesn't
>>>>> understand modern text only posts (that use unicode)
>>>> []
>>>> This is one of those disputes that will never be resolved; some people
>>>> consider anything containing character outside ASCII not to be text,
>>>> others (like you) still consider it text.
>>>
>>> It's not really a dispute, ASCII is only complete for English. In any
>>
>> And only American English at that; it included $ but not £, for example.
>> Back in the day, several devices substituted £ for $, or sometimes for #
>> - sometimes under control of a switch.
>
> To be fair, it doesn't really 'include' the US, nor 'exclude' the UK,
> because there are different dollar currencies and also different pound
> currencies. So just use the right three-letter currency names, i.e. USD,
> GBP, AUD, EGP, etc. and avoid any ambiguity.
>
> But yes, ASCII *is* US-centric. Even so centric that it assumes the
> 'A' equates to the US! :-)
>
>>> international context it is a poor compromise. That's why utf-8 is the
>>> standard.
>>>
>> _A_ standard.
>
> Exactly!
>
>> "A maze of twisty standards, all alike." (Now that's another link to
>> remote mainframes, for me.)
Just minutes ago, I was looking at a place in Booking.com. The place is
"Doña something". Well, they are unable to write that, and instead they
write "Dona something". Do you know how ridiculous that is, for a site
that does big business in Spain? The pages are otherwise correctly
written in Spanish, using accents and other special letters.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-23 13:42 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: How to print entire .txt file |
| Message-ID | <113tcd9.t50.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #194727 |
Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
[...]
> Just minutes ago, I was looking at a place in Booking.com. The place is
> "Doña something". Well, they are unable to write that, and instead they
> write "Dona something". Do you know how ridiculous that is, for a site
> that does big business in Spain? The pages are otherwise correctly
> written in Spanish, using accents and other special letters.
Booking.com is a Dutch company, so you get what you pay for! :-)
I just tried and they also have problems with 'difficult' Dutch names,
for example "'s-Hertogenbosch", sometimes the leading apostrophe (') is
missing.
OTOH, is it an apostrophe or a single quote!? :-)
But don't get me started about buggy websites. I'm only surprised if a
website *isn't* buggy. There nearly always is *some* stupid error,
malfunction, etc., etc..
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| From | "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2026-07-23 15:14 +0100 |
| Subject | OT buggy websites (was: Re: How to print entire .txt file) |
| Message-ID | <113t7jl$3lgeu$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #194728 |
On 2026/7/23 14:42:58, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> [...]
>
>> Just minutes ago, I was looking at a place in Booking.com. The place is
>> "Doña something". Well, they are unable to write that, and instead they
>> write "Dona something". Do you know how ridiculous that is, for a site
>> that does big business in Spain? The pages are otherwise correctly
>> written in Spanish, using accents and other special letters.
Do both Doña and Dona mean something in Spanish (of so what)?
>
> Booking.com is a Dutch company, so you get what you pay for! :-)
>
> I just tried and they also have problems with 'difficult' Dutch names,
> for example "'s-Hertogenbosch", sometimes the leading apostrophe (') is
> missing.
>
> OTOH, is it an apostrophe or a single quote!? :-)
>
> But don't get me started about buggy websites. I'm only surprised if a
> website *isn't* buggy. There nearly always is *some* stupid error,
> malfunction, etc., etc..
Agreed! The commonest ones I _notice_ these days are:
1. Covering header banners. It used to be - and would still, the browser
does it OK - that when you read the first screenful of text on a
webpage, and hit page down (or clicked below the thumb in the
scrollbar), it scrolled up so that the line after the one you were
reading (or even better, that line itself) was now at the top of the
page, so you could just carry on reading. However, many pages these days
have a banner that runs across the top of the page - which remains when
you scroll, so the top few lines are obscured - meaning, when you scroll
down a screenful to carry on reading, you have to go back a few lines to
do so. It ought not to be bwyond the wit of web designers for the reader
to be able to read/scroll OK, but it obviously is. (IFRAMES could do it;
I know that's "deprecated", but surely an un-covered scroll area ought
to be achievable!)
2. Abolition of wrap. The _majority_ of pages now try to be like PDF, i.
e. look like a page in a print document, in fixed layout - meaning
they're too wide for the window they're being read in, forcing you to
scroll left and right to read. With the exception of special cases (some
tables), a web page should not display a horizontal scroll bar; that's
not what HTML is about - it _isn't_ PDF.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
If this power [television] is ever brought to mechanical perfection,
there is little reason, except the desire to be gregarious, that anyone
but a few should go in person to any place of entertainment again.
- BBC yearbook 1930
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2026-07-23 18:45 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: OT buggy websites |
| Message-ID | <nceuovF781fU5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #194729 |
On 2026-07-23 16:14, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
> On 2026/7/23 14:42:58, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>> Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>> [...]
>>
>>> Just minutes ago, I was looking at a place in Booking.com. The place is
>>> "Doña something". Well, they are unable to write that, and instead they
>>> write "Dona something". Do you know how ridiculous that is, for a site
>>> that does big business in Spain? The pages are otherwise correctly
>>> written in Spanish, using accents and other special letters.
>
> Do both Doña and Dona mean something in Spanish (of so what)?
Doña is Mrs. "Dona" can be a verb, "he donates". It is also a sweet. Aka
"dónut".
>> Booking.com is a Dutch company, so you get what you pay for! :-)
>>
>> I just tried and they also have problems with 'difficult' Dutch names,
>> for example "'s-Hertogenbosch", sometimes the leading apostrophe (') is
>> missing.
>>
>> OTOH, is it an apostrophe or a single quote!? :-)
>>
>> But don't get me started about buggy websites. I'm only surprised if a
>> website *isn't* buggy. There nearly always is *some* stupid error,
>> malfunction, etc., etc..
>
> Agreed! The commonest ones I _notice_ these days are:
> 1. Covering header banners. It used to be - and would still, the browser
> does it OK - that when you read the first screenful of text on a
> webpage, and hit page down (or clicked below the thumb in the
> scrollbar), it scrolled up so that the line after the one you were
> reading (or even better, that line itself) was now at the top of the
> page, so you could just carry on reading. However, many pages these days
> have a banner that runs across the top of the page - which remains when
> you scroll, so the top few lines are obscured - meaning, when you scroll
> down a screenful to carry on reading, you have to go back a few lines to
> do so. It ought not to be bwyond the wit of web designers for the reader
> to be able to read/scroll OK, but it obviously is. (IFRAMES could do it;
> I know that's "deprecated", but surely an un-covered scroll area ought
> to be achievable!)
> 2. Abolition of wrap. The _majority_ of pages now try to be like PDF, i.
> e. look like a page in a print document, in fixed layout - meaning
> they're too wide for the window they're being read in, forcing you to
> scroll left and right to read. With the exception of special cases (some
> tables), a web page should not display a horizontal scroll bar; that's
> not what HTML is about - it _isn't_ PDF.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2026-07-23 20:01 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: OT buggy websites |
| Message-ID | <113todh$3lgeu$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #194731 |
On 2026/7/23 17:45:19, Carlos E. R. wrote: > On 2026-07-23 16:14, J. P. Gilliver wrote: >> On 2026/7/23 14:42:58, Frank Slootweg wrote: >>> Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>> [...] >>> >>>> Just minutes ago, I was looking at a place in Booking.com. The place is >>>> "Doña something". Well, they are unable to write that, and instead they >>>> write "Dona something". Do you know how ridiculous that is, for a site >>>> that does big business in Spain? The pages are otherwise correctly >>>> written in Spanish, using accents and other special letters. >> >> Do both Doña and Dona mean something in Spanish (of so what)? > > Doña is Mrs. "Dona" can be a verb, "he donates". It is also a sweet. Aka > "dónut". [] So it's possible that the website writer - especially if they wrote other text that _does_ include ñs - thinks the place is called "do(ugh)nut house" rather than "Mrs. Smith's". Depends what "something" is, of course. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind. - Mahatma Gandhi (according to the film Gandhi [1982])
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2026-07-23 22:22 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: OT buggy websites |
| Message-ID | <ncfbfvF781fU8@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #194734 |
On 2026-07-23 21:01, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
> On 2026/7/23 17:45:19, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> On 2026-07-23 16:14, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>>> On 2026/7/23 14:42:58, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>>>> Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>>> Just minutes ago, I was looking at a place in Booking.com. The place is
>>>>> "Doña something". Well, they are unable to write that, and instead they
>>>>> write "Dona something". Do you know how ridiculous that is, for a site
>>>>> that does big business in Spain? The pages are otherwise correctly
>>>>> written in Spanish, using accents and other special letters.
>>>
>>> Do both Doña and Dona mean something in Spanish (of so what)?
>>
>> Doña is Mrs. "Dona" can be a verb, "he donates". It is also a sweet. Aka
>> "dónut".
>
> []
> So it's possible that the website writer - especially if they wrote
> other text that _does_ include ñs - thinks the place is called
> "do(ugh)nut house" rather than "Mrs. Smith's". Depends what "something"
> is, of course.
Nono, that's impossible. It is the name of an hotel, named after some
ancient lady. I suppose the entry in booking.com was written by a
representative of the hotel in some database, but the 'ñ' was not
accepted and was replaced with an 'n'.
It has to be some kind of official entry, as we make payments to them.
Over the decades I have used computers and seen them evolve, I have seen
many times software designed by USA people that thought that ASCII was
enough. It is so if that software is never used outside of the USA, but
this is seldom the case.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2026-07-23 17:37 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: OT buggy websites |
| Message-ID | <hb256l121a1damihq84dtbc94s16e9b7ms@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #194734 |
In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Thu, 23 Jul 2026 20:01:05 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote: >On 2026/7/23 17:45:19, Carlos E. R. wrote: >> On 2026-07-23 16:14, J. P. Gilliver wrote: >>> On 2026/7/23 14:42:58, Frank Slootweg wrote: >>>> Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>>> [...] >>>> >>>>> Just minutes ago, I was looking at a place in Booking.com. The place is >>>>> "Doña something". Well, they are unable to write that, and instead they >>>>> write "Dona something". Do you know how ridiculous that is, for a site >>>>> that does big business in Spain? The pages are otherwise correctly >>>>> written in Spanish, using accents and other special letters. >>> >>> Do both Doña and Dona mean something in Spanish (of so what)? >> >> Doña is Mrs. "Dona" can be a verb, "he donates". It is also a sweet. Aka >> "dónut". > >[] >So it's possible that the website writer - especially if they wrote >other text that _does_ include ñs - thinks the place is called >"do(ugh)nut house" rather than "Mrs. Smith's". Depends what "something" >is, of course. If there is a gingerbread house there can be a doughnut house.
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2026-07-23 20:24 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: OT buggy websites |
| Message-ID | <113ubbn$9tfi$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #194740 |
On Thu, 7/23/2026 5:37 PM, micky wrote: > In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Thu, 23 Jul 2026 20:01:05 +0100, "J. P. > Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote: > >> On 2026/7/23 17:45:19, Carlos E. R. wrote: >>> On 2026-07-23 16:14, J. P. Gilliver wrote: >>>> On 2026/7/23 14:42:58, Frank Slootweg wrote: >>>>> Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>>>> [...] >>>>> >>>>>> Just minutes ago, I was looking at a place in Booking.com. The place is >>>>>> "Doña something". Well, they are unable to write that, and instead they >>>>>> write "Dona something". Do you know how ridiculous that is, for a site >>>>>> that does big business in Spain? The pages are otherwise correctly >>>>>> written in Spanish, using accents and other special letters. >>>> >>>> Do both Doña and Dona mean something in Spanish (of so what)? >>> >>> Doña is Mrs. "Dona" can be a verb, "he donates". It is also a sweet. Aka >>> "dónut". >> >> [] >> So it's possible that the website writer - especially if they wrote >> other text that _does_ include ñs - thinks the place is called >> "do(ugh)nut house" rather than "Mrs. Smith's". Depends what "something" >> is, of course. > > If there is a gingerbread house there can be a doughnut house. > A donut house has its ups and downs. Whereas a gingerbread house, you know where you stand. Paul
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| From | Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2026-07-24 17:00 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: OT buggy websites (was: Re: How to print entire .txt file) |
| Message-ID | <6a639a3f$0$25$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> |
| In reply to | #194729 |
On Thu, 23 Jul 2026 15:14:12 +0100, J. P. Gilliver wrote: [snip] > 2. Abolition of wrap. The _majority_ of pages now try to be like PDF, i. > e. look like a page in a print document, in fixed layout - meaning > they're too wide for the window they're being read in, forcing you to > scroll left and right to read. With the exception of special cases (some > tables), a web page should not display a horizontal scroll bar; that's > not what HTML is about - it _isn't_ PDF. AFAIK, even the earliest web browsers could wrap text. Then many pages are designed to defeat this ability. "Responsive design" seems to be a way to get a little of that back. -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ "Church teachings are but fiction. I have knowledge of their inanity." -- Leo Tolstoy (1828-1910)
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| From | "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2026-07-24 19:36 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: OT buggy websites |
| Message-ID | <1140bap$tdg8$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #194754 |
On 2026/7/24 18:0:47, Mark Lloyd wrote: > On Thu, 23 Jul 2026 15:14:12 +0100, J. P. Gilliver wrote: > > [snip] > >> 2. Abolition of wrap. The _majority_ of pages now try to be like PDF, i. >> e. look like a page in a print document, in fixed layout - meaning >> they're too wide for the window they're being read in, forcing you to >> scroll left and right to read. With the exception of special cases (some >> tables), a web page should not display a horizontal scroll bar; that's >> not what HTML is about - it _isn't_ PDF. > > AFAIK, even the earliest web browsers could wrap text. Then many pages are That was, indeed, my point ... > designed to defeat this ability. ... or rather, that was. It's very poor design for a page designer to assume all readers are reading his page in the same width window (window, not screen) he is. (Especially if he is working full-screen on a huge [well, resolution] monitor.) > > "Responsive design" seems to be a way to get a little of that back. > Shouldn't need any "responsiveness" - wrapping is a basic function of HTML. Emails are often as bad; I've just pointed this out to FindMyPast, and had the auto-acknowledgement. I await the response with interest - though little hope. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf The first draft was "flick me all over with ..." (RT Chtr 2020)
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| From | Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2026-07-25 17:19 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: OT buggy websites |
| Message-ID | <6a64f011$0$25$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> |
| In reply to | #194758 |
On Fri, 24 Jul 2026 19:36:09 +0100, J. P. Gilliver wrote: [snip] >> "Responsive design" seems to be a way to get a little of that back. >> > Shouldn't need any "responsiveness" - wrapping is a basic function of > HTML. Right. The CSS that defeats wrap may be related to those pages that look good on the screen, but become a mess when printed. > Emails are often as bad; I've just pointed this out to FindMyPast, and > had the auto-acknowledgement. I await the response with interest - > though little hope. -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ "I have never seen the slightest scientific proof of the religious theories of heaven and hell, of future life for individuals, or of a personal God." [Thomas Alva Edison, "Columbian Magazine"]
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| From | "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2026-07-25 21:39 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: OT buggy websites |
| Message-ID | <11436uu$1h96r$6@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #194784 |
On 2026/7/25 18:19:13, Mark Lloyd wrote: > On Fri, 24 Jul 2026 19:36:09 +0100, J. P. Gilliver wrote: > > [snip] > >>> "Responsive design" seems to be a way to get a little of that back. >>> >> Shouldn't need any "responsiveness" - wrapping is a basic function of >> HTML. > > Right. > > The CSS that defeats wrap may be related to those pages that look good on > the screen, but become a mess when printed. The ones I'm talking about don't even look good on screen; very few web pages should _need_ the viewer to scroll horizontally, for example. > >> Emails are often as bad; I've just pointed this out to FindMyPast, and >> had the auto-acknowledgement. I await the response with interest - >> though little hope. > > > -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Who were your favourite TV stars or shows when you were a child? Sadly they've all been arrested ... Ian Hislop, in Radio Times 28 September-4 October 2013
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2026-07-23 11:07 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: How to print entire .txt file |
| Message-ID | <113tan0$3ubgj$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #194728 |
On Thu, 7/23/2026 9:42 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> [...]
>
>> Just minutes ago, I was looking at a place in Booking.com. The place is
>> "Doña something". Well, they are unable to write that, and instead they
>> write "Dona something". Do you know how ridiculous that is, for a site
>> that does big business in Spain? The pages are otherwise correctly
>> written in Spanish, using accents and other special letters.
>
> Booking.com is a Dutch company, so you get what you pay for! :-)
>
> I just tried and they also have problems with 'difficult' Dutch names,
> for example "'s-Hertogenbosch", sometimes the leading apostrophe (') is
> missing.
>
> OTOH, is it an apostrophe or a single quote!? :-)
>
> But don't get me started about buggy websites. I'm only surprised if a
> website *isn't* buggy. There nearly always is *some* stupid error,
> malfunction, etc., etc..
>
An example I could find:
Which do you use: don/doña or señor/señora?
If only we had some sort of automated agent that could
correct these errors... :-) Naw. Never mind.
Paul
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| From | "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2026-07-23 13:41 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: How to print entire .txt file |
| Message-ID | <113tjo3$195j$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #194728 |
On 07/23/2026 9:42 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote: > Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > [...] > >> Just minutes ago, I was looking at a place in Booking.com. The place is >> "Doña something". Well, they are unable to write that, and instead they >> write "Dona something". Do you know how ridiculous that is, for a site >> that does big business in Spain? The pages are otherwise correctly >> written in Spanish, using accents and other special letters. > > Booking.com is a Dutch company, so you get what you pay for! :-) > Yes, Booking.com is a Dutch company located in Amsterdam *and* a subsidiary of an American company - Booking Holdings in Norwalk, Connecticut[CT]. - Note: the initial company(1999), before acquisitons, mergers, renaming was Priceline.com(founded in Stamford, CT) Side Note: a $1000 investment in Priceline in 1999 is worth approx $45000 today - enough for sufficient pcs, operating systems, smartphones, and plenty of other related products. -- ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2026-07-23 19:55 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: How to print entire .txt file |
| Message-ID | <ncf2tbF781fU7@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #194732 |
On 2026-07-23 19:41, ....winston wrote:
> On 07/23/2026 9:42 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>> Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>> [...]
>>
>>> Just minutes ago, I was looking at a place in Booking.com. The place is
>>> "Doña something". Well, they are unable to write that, and instead they
>>> write "Dona something". Do you know how ridiculous that is, for a site
>>> that does big business in Spain? The pages are otherwise correctly
>>> written in Spanish, using accents and other special letters.
>>
>> Booking.com is a Dutch company, so you get what you pay for! :-)
>>
> Yes, Booking.com is a Dutch company located in Amsterdam *and* a
> subsidiary of an American company - Booking Holdings in Norwalk,
> Connecticut[CT].
> - Note: the initial company(1999), before acquisitons, mergers,
> renaming was Priceline.com(founded in Stamford, CT)
>
> Side Note: a $1000 investment in Priceline in 1999 is worth approx
> $45000 today - enough for sufficient pcs, operating systems,
> smartphones, and plenty of other related products.
>
>
If the software was made in the USA, and the index is made in ascii, it
can not cope with other letters.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2026-07-24 01:10 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: How to print entire .txt file |
| Message-ID | <113us4h$dvb4$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #194733 |
On 07/23/2026 1:55 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote: > On 2026-07-23 19:41, ....winston wrote: >> On 07/23/2026 9:42 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote: >>> Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>> [...] >>> >>>> Just minutes ago, I was looking at a place in Booking.com. The place is >>>> "Doña something". Well, they are unable to write that, and instead they >>>> write "Dona something". Do you know how ridiculous that is, for a site >>>> that does big business in Spain? The pages are otherwise correctly >>>> written in Spanish, using accents and other special letters. >>> >>> Booking.com is a Dutch company, so you get what you pay for! :-) >>> >> Yes, Booking.com is a Dutch company located in Amsterdam *and* a >> subsidiary of an American company - Booking Holdings in Norwalk, >> Connecticut[CT]. >> - Note: the initial company(1999), before acquisitons, mergers, >> renaming was Priceline.com(founded in Stamford, CT) >> >> Side Note: a $1000 investment in Priceline in 1999 is worth approx >> $45000 today - enough for sufficient pcs, operating systems, >> smartphones, and plenty of other related products. >> >> > > If the software was made in the USA, and the index is made in ascii, it > can not cope with other letters. > With respect to Spanish word spellings. A few years ago, I attended a 2-day cooking class at a local church. The class was a part of a fundraiser. The class was on making an Oaxaxcan Mole and taught by a 70 yr old woman. Doña Brisa. The recipe was available as a txt file on Google Docs. Downloaded, saved it as *.txt and printed. The spacing, line break, and alignment on the output for a variety of lines and words(some containing a Virguilla and acento agudo) was varied contrary to the display in Notepad. Pasting text in to Word, saving as PDF then printing provided a uniform and expected output. No effort taken to look for other possible suspect characters that may have caused print issues. The Mole had 34 total ingredients, overnight soak in refrigerator before next day finishing. -- ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2026-07-24 14:21 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: How to print entire .txt file |
| Message-ID | <nch3maFlufaU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #194744 |
On 2026-07-24 07:10, ....winston wrote:
> On 07/23/2026 1:55 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> On 2026-07-23 19:41, ....winston wrote:
>>> On 07/23/2026 9:42 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>>>> Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>>> Just minutes ago, I was looking at a place in Booking.com. The
>>>>> place is
>>>>> "Doña something". Well, they are unable to write that, and instead
>>>>> they
>>>>> write "Dona something". Do you know how ridiculous that is, for a site
>>>>> that does big business in Spain? The pages are otherwise correctly
>>>>> written in Spanish, using accents and other special letters.
>>>>
>>>> Booking.com is a Dutch company, so you get what you pay for! :-)
>>>>
>>> Yes, Booking.com is a Dutch company located in Amsterdam *and* a
>>> subsidiary of an American company - Booking Holdings in Norwalk,
>>> Connecticut[CT].
>>> - Note: the initial company(1999), before acquisitons, mergers,
>>> renaming was Priceline.com(founded in Stamford, CT)
>>>
>>> Side Note: a $1000 investment in Priceline in 1999 is worth approx
>>> $45000 today - enough for sufficient pcs, operating systems,
>>> smartphones, and plenty of other related products.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> If the software was made in the USA, and the index is made in ascii,
>> it can not cope with other letters.
>>
> With respect to Spanish word spellings.
>
> A few years ago, I attended a 2-day cooking class at a local church. The
> class was a part of a fundraiser. The class was on making an Oaxaxcan
> Mole and taught by a 70 yr old woman. Doña Brisa. The recipe was
> available as a txt file on Google Docs.
> Downloaded, saved it as *.txt and printed. The spacing, line break, and
> alignment on the output for a variety of lines and words(some containing
> a Virguilla and acento agudo) was varied contrary to the display in
> Notepad. Pasting text in to Word, saving as PDF then printing provided a
> uniform and expected output. No effort taken to look for other possible
> suspect characters that may have caused print issues.
>
> The Mole had 34 total ingredients, overnight soak in refrigerator before
> next day finishing.
So, printing plain texts in Windows is now a problem :-}
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2026-07-24 09:32 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: How to print entire .txt file |
| Message-ID | <113vpha$mrid$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #194746 |
On 07/24/2026 8:21 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote: > On 2026-07-24 07:10, ....winston wrote: >> On 07/23/2026 1:55 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote: >>> On 2026-07-23 19:41, ....winston wrote: >>>> On 07/23/2026 9:42 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote: >>>>> Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>>>> [...] >>>>> >>>>>> Just minutes ago, I was looking at a place in Booking.com. The >>>>>> place is >>>>>> "Doña something". Well, they are unable to write that, and instead >>>>>> they >>>>>> write "Dona something". Do you know how ridiculous that is, for a >>>>>> site >>>>>> that does big business in Spain? The pages are otherwise correctly >>>>>> written in Spanish, using accents and other special letters. >>>>> >>>>> Booking.com is a Dutch company, so you get what you pay for! :-) >>>>> >>>> Yes, Booking.com is a Dutch company located in Amsterdam *and* a >>>> subsidiary of an American company - Booking Holdings in Norwalk, >>>> Connecticut[CT]. >>>> - Note: the initial company(1999), before acquisitons, mergers, >>>> renaming was Priceline.com(founded in Stamford, CT) >>>> >>>> Side Note: a $1000 investment in Priceline in 1999 is worth approx >>>> $45000 today - enough for sufficient pcs, operating systems, >>>> smartphones, and plenty of other related products. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> If the software was made in the USA, and the index is made in ascii, >>> it can not cope with other letters. >>> >> With respect to Spanish word spellings. >> >> A few years ago, I attended a 2-day cooking class at a local church. >> The class was a part of a fundraiser. The class was on making an >> Oaxaxcan Mole and taught by a 70 yr old woman. Doña Brisa. The recipe >> was available as a txt file on Google Docs. >> Downloaded, saved it as *.txt and printed. The spacing, line break, >> and alignment on the output for a variety of lines and words(some >> containing a Virguilla and acento agudo) was varied contrary to the >> display in Notepad. Pasting text in to Word, saving as PDF then >> printing provided a uniform and expected output. No effort taken to >> look for other possible suspect characters that may have caused print >> issues. >> >> The Mole had 34 total ingredients, overnight soak in refrigerator >> before next day finishing. > > So, printing plain texts in Windows is now a problem :-} > :) It was never Windows. Only what(the file that) was given to Windows. In the case of the Mole recipe - the file and/or Google Docs. -- ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-24 10:09 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: How to print entire .txt file |
| Message-ID | <113vrmf$o870$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #194746 |
On Fri, 7/24/2026 8:21 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote: > On 2026-07-24 07:10, ....winston wrote: >> On 07/23/2026 1:55 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote: >>> On 2026-07-23 19:41, ....winston wrote: >>>> On 07/23/2026 9:42 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote: >>>>> Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>>>> [...] >>>>> >>>>>> Just minutes ago, I was looking at a place in Booking.com. The place is >>>>>> "Doña something". Well, they are unable to write that, and instead they >>>>>> write "Dona something". Do you know how ridiculous that is, for a site >>>>>> that does big business in Spain? The pages are otherwise correctly >>>>>> written in Spanish, using accents and other special letters. >>>>> >>>>> Booking.com is a Dutch company, so you get what you pay for! :-) >>>>> >>>> Yes, Booking.com is a Dutch company located in Amsterdam *and* a subsidiary of an American company - Booking Holdings in Norwalk, Connecticut[CT]. >>>> - Note: the initial company(1999), before acquisitons, mergers, renaming was Priceline.com(founded in Stamford, CT) >>>> >>>> Side Note: a $1000 investment in Priceline in 1999 is worth approx $45000 >>>> today - enough for sufficient pcs, operating systems, smartphones, and plenty >>>> of other related products. >>>> >>> If the software was made in the USA, and the index is made in ascii, it can not cope with other letters. >>> >> With respect to Spanish word spellings. >> >> A few years ago, I attended a 2-day cooking class at a local church. The class >> was a part of a fundraiser. The class was on making an Oaxaxcan Mole and taught by >> a 70 yr old woman. Doña Brisa. The recipe was available as a txt file on Google Docs. >> Downloaded, saved it as *.txt and printed. The spacing, line break, and alignment >> on the output for a variety of lines and words(some containing a Virguilla and >> acento agudo) was varied contrary to the display in Notepad. Pasting text in to >> Word, saving as PDF then printing provided a uniform and expected output. No effort >> taken to look for other possible suspect characters that may have caused print issues. >> >> The Mole had 34 total ingredients, overnight soak in refrigerator before next day finishing. > > So, printing plain texts in Windows is now a problem :-} There might be a difference in the line spacing, between the various tools. I notice in Thunderbird for example, if I paste the unicode output from an LLM-AI, the line spacing is not uniform. If a line has an em-dash and I change that to a hyphen, the line height might change. By removing various "things" in the LLM-AI paste, I can return pretty well all the lines to the same line height. If you made the line spacing wide enough, to accommodate all superscript and subscript possibilities, then people would complain the "line spacing is too wide". There would be whining. So you can't win really. Only a typographer could tell us what was going on, and how to fix it. People cutting type in a newspaper environment, would not put up with this, but computers make all this stuff too easy to do (vary the line spacing in the hopes that the tops of special characters in a bottom row, do not "collide" with the descenders of the row above). Paul
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