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Re: How to copy & read a huge zipped book with thousands of html & jpeg files Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-07-04 23:57 -0400
Re: How to copy & read a huge zipped book with thousands of html & jpeg files Mary Schofield <Yello@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-05 05:09 +0100
Re: How to copy & read a huge zipped book with thousands of html & jpeg files Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-07-04 23:13 -0600
Re: How to copy & read a huge zipped book with thousands of html & jpeg files Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-07-08 10:32 -0400
Re: How to copy & read a huge zipped book with thousands of html & jpeg files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-05 13:29 +0200
Re: How to copy & read a huge zipped book with thousands of html & jpeg files Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2026-07-05 14:48 +0100
Re: How to copy & read a huge zipped book with thousands of html & jpeg files Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-07-05 10:06 -0600
Re: How to copy & read a huge zipped book with thousands of html & jpeg files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-05 19:10 +0200
Re: How to copy & read a huge zipped book with thousands of html & jpeg files Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2026-07-05 17:37 +0000
Re: How to copy & read a huge zipped book with thousands of html & jpeg files Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-07-07 11:11 -0700
Re: How to copy & read a huge zipped book with thousands of html & jpeg files Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2026-07-05 21:00 +0100
Re: How to copy & read a huge zipped book with thousands of html & jpeg files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-05 22:50 +0200
Re: How to copy & read a huge zipped book with thousands of html & jpeg files Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-07-05 23:06 -0600
Re: How to copy & read a huge zipped book with thousands of html & jpeg files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-06 12:05 +0200
Re: How to copy & read a huge zipped book with thousands of html & jpeg files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-06 12:24 +0200
Re: How to copy & read a huge zipped book with thousands of html & jpeg files Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-07-06 10:28 -0600
Re: How to copy & read a huge zipped book with thousands of html & jpeg files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-06 19:50 +0200
Re: How to copy & read a huge zipped book with thousands of html & jpeg files Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-07-06 09:36 -0600
Re: How to copy & read a huge zipped book with thousands of html & jpeg files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-06 19:56 +0200
Re: How to copy & read a huge zipped book with thousands of html & jpeg files Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-07-08 11:14 -0400
Re: How to copy & read a huge zipped book with thousands of html & jpeg files Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2026-07-06 07:58 +0100
Re: How to copy & read a huge zipped book with thousands of html & jpeg files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-06 12:12 +0200
Re: How to copy & read a huge zipped book with thousands of html & jpeg files Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-07-05 15:12 -0600
Re: How to copy & read a huge zipped book with thousands of html & jpeg files Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-07-08 17:51 +0000
Re: How to copy & read a huge zipped book with thousands of html & jpeg files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-08 21:49 +0200
Re: How to copy & read a huge zipped book with thousands of html & jpeg files Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-07-09 07:05 +0000
Re: How to copy & read a huge zipped book with thousands of html & jpeg files Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-07-08 17:44 +0000
Re: How to copy & read a huge zipped book with thousands of html & jpeg files Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2026-07-09 06:09 +0100
Re: How to copy & read a huge zipped book with thousands of html & jpeg files Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-08 10:39 +0100
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| From | Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> |
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| Date | 2026-07-06 07:58 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <112fjmf$1o6gi$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #194279 |
"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> Wrote in message: > On 2026-07-05 22:00, Dave Royal wrote: >> In the days when software was released on CD such html documentation was common. But any browser could read local http files then. >> > Yes, I know. But calling that "book" confused me. > I wouldn't call it a book either. The rust manual, to which had a bookmark (!) on this tablet, was the first example I thought of. It was just fortuitous that it had 'book' in the url. I see this in the source: <!-- Book generated using mdBook --> > > Epub is also liquid. > I had forgotten. A few years back I converted a 'tunebook' - a mix of musical scores and text - into mobi format for display on a kindle. You want the score to occupy the whole page width, as big as possible. I wasn't sure how mobi resized the images, hence my comment in https://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=171470#4147314 "I wonder if the mobi has converted the compressed SVGs to some other image format, each at several sizes for different Kindles?" -- Remove numerics from my email address.
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-06 12:12 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <nb1dckFpadoU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #194294 |
On 2026-07-06 08:58, Dave Royal wrote:
> "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> Wrote in message:
>
>> On 2026-07-05 22:00, Dave Royal wrote:
>>> In the days when software was released on CD such html documentation was common. But any browser could read local http files then.
>>>
>> Yes, I know. But calling that "book" confused me.
>>
> I wouldn't call it a book either. The rust manual, to which had a
> bookmark (!) on this tablet, was the first example I thought of.
> It was just fortuitous that it had 'book' in the url. I see this
> in the source:
> <!-- Book generated using mdBook -->
>>
>> Epub is also liquid.
>>
> I had forgotten. A few years back I converted a 'tunebook' - a mix of musical scores and text - into mobi format for display on a kindle. You want the score to occupy the whole page width, as big as possible. I wasn't sure how mobi resized the images, hence my comment in https://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=171470#4147314
> "I wonder if the mobi has converted the compressed SVGs to some
> other image format, each at several sizes for different
> Kindles?"
The kindle doesn't use epub format. They are two competing markets with
different software.
The images I have seen on epubs are bitmaps, so hardly "zoomable". I
mean, if the image has more pixels than my ebook device, the image
results hard to read or view.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> |
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| Date | 2026-07-05 15:12 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <112ehbd$2cco$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #194278 |
Dave Royal wrote: >> No ZIP that I can see :-? >> >> I would have to download using wget, and this tool modifies the links so >> that they are correct for your local installation. > > The links are normally relative to the document root, so no need > to modify them. > > In the days when software was released on CD such html documentation was common. But any browser could read local http files then. > >> I wonder if Calibre can convert that to epub. > > If so I suppose you'd have to specify the medium size - eg A4. An > html file is liquid - it fills any window or page size. As Dave Royal noted to Carlos, all paths are relative to $DOCUMENT_ROOT. Also, as Dave noted, EPUB is essentially a packaged, standardized container built decades later on top of XHTML and CSS, long after HTML documentation was already widespread in CD ROM supplied documentation and help systems. Looking up Carlos' Calibre question, apparently Calibre can convert a complex multi-file HTML book into a single EPUB/AZW3 file, as long as we give it the entire directory (usually as a ZIP) if it is formatted well. 1. Feed the ZIP to Calibre, 2. Convert to EPUB, 3. Output a single, portable book with all images and subfiles embedded. Once Calibre converts the zip to an epub, it can be copied to Android. -- Usenet allows good friends around the world to discuss their experiences.
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| From | Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-07-08 17:51 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <112m2n6$3qn2a$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #194269 |
Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > On 2026-07-05 15:48, Dave Royal wrote: >> "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> Wrote in message: >> >>> On 2026-07-05 05:57, Maria Sophia wrote: >>>> Maria Sophia wrote: >>>>> I finally forced Android 16 to behave like a real operating system again. >>>>> I carved out a sane workflow inside an OS that keeps trying to turn into >>>>> iOS, and I did it without surrendering my /0000 Unix /usr/local philosophy. >>>> >>>> SUMMARY (Linux users added because it was Linux to the rescue this time!) >>>> >>>> Windows and Linux can easily open HTML books stored in custom top-level >>>> hierarchies, even if the books contain tens of thousands of pages & jpegs. >>>> >>>> Unfortunately, Android 10 through 16 cannot open HTML book stored in custom >>>> top-level POSIX folders such as /storage/emulated/0/0000/books/book1/. >>> >>> I don't know what are "books" in this context. >>> >>> If you mean electronic books, for me they are epubs, and I handle them >>> with Calibre. >>> >>> https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/79019 >>> >>> I see html format is available, but I see no reason to use it, unless as >>> an intermediary to transform to something else. >> >> Quite a lot of technical documentation is published as an html >> 'book'. This for example: >> https://doc.rust-lang.org/book/ >> >> Historically html is a dialect of sgml, which was designed for >> documentation > > Ok... > > Heh, they charge 45$ for the epub version. > > No ZIP that I can see :-? > > I would have to download using wget, and this tool modifies the links so > that they are correct for your local installation. > > I wonder if Calibre can convert that to epub. No need. If you go to the github you can download the source and build it in whatever format you want.
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-08 21:49 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <nb7ntoFk3psU5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #194341 |
On 2026-07-08 19:51, Chris wrote:
> Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2026-07-05 15:48, Dave Royal wrote:
>>> "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> Wrote in message:
>>>
>>>> On 2026-07-05 05:57, Maria Sophia wrote:
>>>>> Maria Sophia wrote:
>>>>>> I finally forced Android 16 to behave like a real operating system again.
>>>>>> I carved out a sane workflow inside an OS that keeps trying to turn into
>>>>>> iOS, and I did it without surrendering my /0000 Unix /usr/local philosophy.
>>>>>
>>>>> SUMMARY (Linux users added because it was Linux to the rescue this time!)
>>>>>
>>>>> Windows and Linux can easily open HTML books stored in custom top-level
>>>>> hierarchies, even if the books contain tens of thousands of pages & jpegs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately, Android 10 through 16 cannot open HTML book stored in custom
>>>>> top-level POSIX folders such as /storage/emulated/0/0000/books/book1/.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know what are "books" in this context.
>>>>
>>>> If you mean electronic books, for me they are epubs, and I handle them
>>>> with Calibre.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/79019
>>>>
>>>> I see html format is available, but I see no reason to use it, unless as
>>>> an intermediary to transform to something else.
>>>
>>> Quite a lot of technical documentation is published as an html
>>> 'book'. This for example:
>>> https://doc.rust-lang.org/book/
>>>
>>> Historically html is a dialect of sgml, which was designed for
>>> documentation
>>
>> Ok...
>>
>> Heh, they charge 45$ for the epub version.
>>
>> No ZIP that I can see :-?
>>
>> I would have to download using wget, and this tool modifies the links so
>> that they are correct for your local installation.
>>
>> I wonder if Calibre can convert that to epub.
>
> No need. If you go to the github you can download the source and build it
> in whatever format you want.
>
Ah. Right. Did not occur to me, but in the past I had little luck with
doc building.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-07-09 07:05 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <112nh6u$71t0$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #194345 |
Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > On 2026-07-08 19:51, Chris wrote: >> Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>> On 2026-07-05 15:48, Dave Royal wrote: >>>> "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> Wrote in message: >>>> >>>>> On 2026-07-05 05:57, Maria Sophia wrote: >>>>>> Maria Sophia wrote: >>>>>>> I finally forced Android 16 to behave like a real operating system again. >>>>>>> I carved out a sane workflow inside an OS that keeps trying to turn into >>>>>>> iOS, and I did it without surrendering my /0000 Unix /usr/local philosophy. >>>>>> >>>>>> SUMMARY (Linux users added because it was Linux to the rescue this time!) >>>>>> >>>>>> Windows and Linux can easily open HTML books stored in custom top-level >>>>>> hierarchies, even if the books contain tens of thousands of pages & jpegs. >>>>>> >>>>>> Unfortunately, Android 10 through 16 cannot open HTML book stored in custom >>>>>> top-level POSIX folders such as /storage/emulated/0/0000/books/book1/. >>>>> >>>>> I don't know what are "books" in this context. >>>>> >>>>> If you mean electronic books, for me they are epubs, and I handle them >>>>> with Calibre. >>>>> >>>>> https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/79019 >>>>> >>>>> I see html format is available, but I see no reason to use it, unless as >>>>> an intermediary to transform to something else. >>>> >>>> Quite a lot of technical documentation is published as an html >>>> 'book'. This for example: >>>> https://doc.rust-lang.org/book/ >>>> >>>> Historically html is a dialect of sgml, which was designed for >>>> documentation >>> >>> Ok... >>> >>> Heh, they charge 45$ for the epub version. >>> >>> No ZIP that I can see :-? >>> >>> I would have to download using wget, and this tool modifies the links so >>> that they are correct for your local installation. >>> >>> I wonder if Calibre can convert that to epub. >> >> No need. If you go to the github you can download the source and build it >> in whatever format you want. >> > > Ah. Right. Did not occur to me, but in the past I had little luck with > doc building. It is getting easier, especially with the likes of pandoc. This rust manual does require a few dependencies, however.
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| From | Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-07-08 17:44 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <112m2ad$3qiio$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #194265 |
Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> wrote: > "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> Wrote in message: > >> On 2026-07-05 05:57, Maria Sophia wrote: >>> Maria Sophia wrote: >>>> I finally forced Android 16 to behave like a real operating system again. >>>> I carved out a sane workflow inside an OS that keeps trying to turn into >>>> iOS, and I did it without surrendering my /0000 Unix /usr/local philosophy. >>> >>> SUMMARY (Linux users added because it was Linux to the rescue this time!) >>> >>> Windows and Linux can easily open HTML books stored in custom top-level >>> hierarchies, even if the books contain tens of thousands of pages & jpegs. >>> >>> Unfortunately, Android 10 through 16 cannot open HTML book stored in custom >>> top-level POSIX folders such as /storage/emulated/0/0000/books/book1/. >> >> I don't know what are "books" in this context. >> >> If you mean electronic books, for me they are epubs, and I handle them >> with Calibre. >> >> https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/79019 >> >> I see html format is available, but I see no reason to use it, unless as >> an intermediary to transform to something else. > > Quite a lot of technical documentation is published as an html > 'book'. This for example: > https://doc.rust-lang.org/book/ > > Historically html is a dialect of sgml, which was designed for > documentation It may be published as html, but nowadays most documentation is *written* in Markdown or similar dialect. With Markdown it's very easy to export into different formats like html, docx or pdf. There's no need save the book in html.
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| From | Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> |
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| Date | 2026-07-09 06:09 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <112naee$57tt$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #194340 |
Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> Wrote in message: > Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> wrote: >> "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> Wrote in message: >> >>> On 2026-07-05 05:57, Maria Sophia wrote: >>>> Maria Sophia wrote: >>>>> I finally forced Android 16 to behave like a real operating system again. >>>>> I carved out a sane workflow inside an OS that keeps trying to turn into >>>>> iOS, and I did it without surrendering my /0000 Unix /usr/local philosophy. >>>> >>>> SUMMARY (Linux users added because it was Linux to the rescue this time!) >>>> >>>> Windows and Linux can easily open HTML books stored in custom top-level >>>> hierarchies, even if the books contain tens of thousands of pages & jpegs. >>>> >>>> Unfortunately, Android 10 through 16 cannot open HTML book stored in custom >>>> top-level POSIX folders such as /storage/emulated/0/0000/books/book1/. >>> >>> I don't know what are "books" in this context. >>> >>> If you mean electronic books, for me they are epubs, and I handle them >>> with Calibre. >>> >>> https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/79019 >>> >>> I see html format is available, but I see no reason to use it, unless as >>> an intermediary to transform to something else. >> >> Quite a lot of technical documentation is published as an html >> 'book'. This for example: >> https://doc.rust-lang.org/book/ >> >> Historically html is a dialect of sgml, which was designed for >> documentation > > It may be published as html, but nowadays most documentation is *written* > in Markdown or similar dialect. With Markdown it's very easy to export into > different formats like html, docx or pdf. There's no need save the book in > html. Indeed. That rust doc is written in markdown with svg images. They use mdbook to convert that to html. mdbook may be able to produce epubs - if not there's probably a converter. -- Remove numerics from my email address.
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| From | Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-08 10:39 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <112l5sq$3dfoc$8@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #194262 |
On 2026-07-05, Carlos E. R. wrote: > On 2026-07-05 05:57, Maria Sophia wrote: >> Maria Sophia wrote: >>> I finally forced Android 16 to behave like a real operating system again. >>> I carved out a sane workflow inside an OS that keeps trying to turn into >>> iOS, and I did it without surrendering my /0000 Unix /usr/local philosophy. >> >> SUMMARY (Linux users added because it was Linux to the rescue this time!) >> >> Windows and Linux can easily open HTML books stored in custom top-level >> hierarchies, even if the books contain tens of thousands of pages & jpegs. >> >> Unfortunately, Android 10 through 16 cannot open HTML book stored in custom >> top-level POSIX folders such as /storage/emulated/0/0000/books/book1/. > > I don't know what are "books" in this context. > > If you mean electronic books, for me they are epubs, and I handle them > with Calibre. > > https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/79019 > > I see html format is available, but I see no reason to use it, unless > as an intermediary to transform to something else. (Wasn't epub a Zip archive of a HTML book?) (Ok, Wikipedia says XHTML?) -- Nuno Silva
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