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  (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-05-30 19:31 +0800
    Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-30 13:11 +0100
      Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-05-30 21:27 +0800
        Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-30 16:29 +0100
          Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-15 18:52 +0800
            Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-06-15 08:58 -0400
              Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-15 22:35 +0800
                Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-06-15 14:07 -0400
                  Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? Dennis <nobody@nowhere.invalid> - 2026-06-15 18:31 -0400
                  Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 12:40 +0800
                    Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-06-16 07:44 -0400
                      Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 19:48 +0800
                      Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-16 15:19 +0200
                        Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 21:55 +0800
                          Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-16 20:28 +0200
                            Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-18 12:59 +0800
                              Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-18 08:40 +0200
                                Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-18 17:49 +0800
                                  Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-18 14:20 +0200
                                    Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-18 14:21 +0200
                                      Re: (old_version.exe .... devices at 7C/44F or lower "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-18 21:56 +0800
                                      Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-19 19:32 +1000
                                Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> - 2026-06-18 21:26 +0100
                                  Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-19 00:26 +0200
                                    Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 12:12 +0800
                                      Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-06-19 02:38 -0400
                                        Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-19 19:39 +1000
                                          Re: Moving from Windows to Linux "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 18:40 +0800
                                            Re: Moving from Windows to Linux Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-20 21:31 +1000
                                              Re: Moving from Windows to Linux "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-20 20:45 +0800
                                                Re: Moving from Windows to Linux Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-21 22:19 +1000
                                                  Re: Moving from Windows to Linux "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-21 20:26 +0800
                                                    Re: Moving from Windows to Linux Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-21 23:04 +1000
                                                      Re: Moving from Windows to Linux "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-21 22:41 +0800
                                                        Re: Moving from Windows to Linux "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-06-21 20:11 +0100
                                                        Re: Moving from Windows to Linux Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-22 17:34 +1000
                                                          Re: Moving from Windows to Linux ... bank, passbook, paper, ink "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 19:01 +0800
                                                            Re: Moving from Windows to Linux ... bank, passbook, paper, ink Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-22 21:20 +1000
                                                            Re: Moving from Windows to Linux ... bank, passbook, paper, ink Bank Accounts <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-22 22:20 +0100
                                                            Re: Moving from Windows to Linux ... bank, passbook, paper, ink "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 00:55 -0400
                                                              Re: Moving from Windows to Linux ... bank, passbook, paper, ink "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-23 11:09 +0200
                                                                Re: Moving from Windows to Linux ... bank, passbook, paper, ink Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-23 10:19 +0100
                                                                  Re: Moving from Windows to Linux ... bank, passbook, paper, ink "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-23 12:02 +0200
                                                                    Re: Moving from Windows to Linux ... bank, passbook, paper, ink Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-23 11:16 +0100
                                                                      Re: Moving from Windows to Linux ... bank, passbook, paper, ink "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-23 14:11 +0200
                                                                        Re: Moving from Windows to Linux ... bank, passbook, paper, ink Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-24 00:09 +1000
                                                                          Re: Moving from Windows to Linux ... bank, passbook, paper, ink "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-24 00:30 +0800
                                                    Re: Moving from Windows to Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-21 19:01 +0000
                                        Re: Secured Boot & BIOS "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 18:39 +0800
                                        Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 13:54 -0400
                                          Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-06-19 21:47 +0100
                                            Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-19 16:51 -0500
                                              Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-06-19 22:14 -0400
                                              Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-06-20 05:44 -0400
                                            Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-06-20 05:50 -0400
                        Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 10:26 -0400
                          Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 23:03 +0800
                            Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 20:05 -0400
                              Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-17 11:08 +0800
                              Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-17 11:19 +0800
                                Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-06-17 02:31 -0400
                                  Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-17 19:24 +0800
                                  Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-18 13:02 +0800
                                    Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-06-18 02:04 -0400
                                      Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-18 17:50 +0800
                                Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-06-18 06:48 -0700
                                  Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-18 15:25 +0100
                                    Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-06-18 08:00 -0700
                                      Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-06-18 16:39 +0100
                                  Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-06-18 07:58 -0700
                                    Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 01:04 +0800
                                      Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-19 19:47 +1000
                                        Re: (old_version.exe... IBM World Trade Asia Corp & Hong Kong 1997 "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 18:43 +0800
                                          Re: (old_version.exe... IBM World Trade Asia Corp & Hong Kong 1997 Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-20 21:47 +1000
                                            Re: (old_version.exe... IBM World Trade Asia Corp & Hong Kong 1997 "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-20 23:01 +0800
                                        Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-06-19 07:38 -0700
                                          [OT] "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 23:39 +0800
                                        Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation Mister Johnson <root@example.net> - 2026-06-20 11:51 +0000
                                  Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 01:02 +0800
                                    Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 18:50 +0800
                                      Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-19 15:17 +0100
                                        Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, no handle "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 23:37 +0800
                                          Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, no handle Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-06-19 23:27 -0400
                                            Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, no handle "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-20 11:45 +0800
                                              Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, no handle Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-06-20 09:24 -0400
                                                Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, no handle "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-20 22:58 +0800
                                                  Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, no handle "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-06-20 16:27 +0100
                                                    Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, home safety "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-21 00:07 +0800
                                                      Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, home safety Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-21 08:57 +0100
                                                        Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, home safety "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-21 19:27 +0800
                                                          Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, home safety "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-06-21 20:16 +0100
                                                          Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, home safety Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-06-21 19:28 -0400
                                                            Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, home safety "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 13:21 +0800
                                                              Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, home safety Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-06-22 02:52 -0400
                                                            Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, home safety "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-22 10:44 +0200
                                                            Re: (old_version.exe... kite "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 19:03 +0800
                          Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-16 20:30 +0200
                            Re: (old_version.exe ... mainframe computer room? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-18 13:04 +0800
                              Re: (old_version.exe ... mainframe computer room? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-18 08:43 +0200
                                Re: (old_version.exe ... mainframe computer room? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-18 17:51 +0800
                Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-06-15 20:24 -0400
                  Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 12:35 +0800
    Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? JJ <jj4public@gmail.com> - 2026-05-31 08:59 +0700
      Re: Original exe : delta updates = DNA : RNA vaccines ??? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-15 14:12 +0800
        Re: Original exe : delta updates = DNA : RNA vaccines ??? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-15 14:44 +0800

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#194028 — Re: Moving from Windows to Linux ... bank, passbook, paper, ink

On 2026-06-23 06:55, ....winston wrote:
> On 06/22/2026 7:01 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>> On 6/22/2026 3:34 PM, Daniel70 wrote:
> 
>> That's why traditional banks have physical passbooks, and use 
>> permanent ink instead of thermal printing. And impact printers are 
>> used to print numbers on them. :)
>>
> 
> No, they don't.
>   Fyi...your reply was to person in a time zone where traditional banks 
> no longer offer or have phased out use of or discontinued updating 
> previous issued 'physical passbooks'
> 
>   Same for this reply's timezone with the exception of a few and rare 
> regional and local only banks(non-traditional)

I have not seen banks using thermal paper here. Maybe the cash machines 
on the wall, but I don't think so.

-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.
        ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#194029 — Re: Moving from Windows to Linux ... bank, passbook, paper, ink

"Carlos E. R." wrote:

> I have not seen banks using thermal paper here. Maybe the cash machines 
> on the wall, but I don't think so.

The self-service machines inside the bank which can scan a bunch of 
cheques into your account prints mini copies of them on thermal roll, 
along with the OCR'ed values (wrong about 10% of the time)

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#194030 — Re: Moving from Windows to Linux ... bank, passbook, paper, ink

On 2026-06-23 11:19, Andy Burns wrote:
> "Carlos E. R." wrote:
> 
>> I have not seen banks using thermal paper here. Maybe the cash 
>> machines on the wall, but I don't think so.
> 
> The self-service machines inside the bank which can scan a bunch of 
> cheques into your account prints mini copies of them on thermal roll, 
> along with the OCR'ed values (wrong about 10% of the time)
> 

Ah... :-D

We don't use cheques here :-)

-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.
        ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#194031 — Re: Moving from Windows to Linux ... bank, passbook, paper, ink

Carlos E. R. wrote:

> We don't use cheques here 🙂

I try to avoid them, but some govt department send out refunds that way, 
and companies when selling shares of deceased relatives.

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#194034 — Re: Moving from Windows to Linux ... bank, passbook, paper, ink

On 2026-06-23 12:16, Andy Burns wrote:
> Carlos E. R. wrote:
> 
>> We don't use cheques here 🙂
> 
> I try to avoid them, but some govt department send out refunds that way, 
> and companies when selling shares of deceased relatives.

We only have bank cheques, guaranteed by the bank. Used for things like 
purchasing a house.

-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.
        ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#194038 — Re: Moving from Windows to Linux ... bank, passbook, paper, ink

On 23/06/2026 10:11 pm, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2026-06-23 12:16, Andy Burns wrote:
>> Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>
>>> We don't use cheques here 🙂
>>
>> I try to avoid them, but some govt department send out refunds that 
>> way, and companies when selling shares of deceased relatives.
> 
> We only have bank cheques, guaranteed by the bank. Used for things like 
> purchasing a house.
> 
Australian Banks stopped cheques about 18 months ago. Previously I had 
been giving Nieces/Nephew cheques for Christmas. Last year it was EFT or 
nothing .... well, I guess I could have given bundles of Notes but went 
the safe way.
-- 
Daniel70

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#194049 — Re: Moving from Windows to Linux ... bank, passbook, paper, ink

On 6/23/2026 10:09 PM, Daniel70 wrote:
>
> Australian Banks stopped cheques about 18 months ago. Previously I had
> been giving Nieces/Nephew cheques for Christmas. Last year it was EFT or
> nothing .... well, I guess I could have given bundles of Notes but went
> the safe way.


Permanent ink on permanent paper is more physical & tangible than a 
computer screen of numbers and letters. :)

-- 

    @~@   Simplicity is Beauty! Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch!
   / v \  May the Force and farces be with you! Live long and prosper!!
  /( _ )\ https://sites.google.com/site/changmw/
    ^ ^   https://github.com/changmw/changmw

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#194011 — Re: Moving from Windows to Linux

On Sun, 21 Jun 2026 20:26:48 +0800, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

> Have you ever used English-only computer system, with no graphics? Did
> you use DOS (PC-DOS, MS-DOS) before? THose are pre-1997 computer stuffs.

CP/M was pre-DOS computer stuffs...

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#193969 — Re: Secured Boot & BIOS

On 6/19/2026 2:38 PM, Paul wrote:
> 
> You should be working on your Secure Boot and your BIOS.
> That's what I'm doing right how. My motherboard
> company released yet another BIOS on May 29 2026.
No. Not interested in them personally and at home. Not sure about 
companies in Hong Kong.

I have been shying away from jobs for decades. :)

-- 

    @~@   Simplicity is Beauty! Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch!
   / v \  May the Force and farces be with you! Live long and prosper!!
  /( _ )\ https://sites.google.com/site/changmw/
    ^ ^   https://github.com/changmw/changmw

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#193977

On 06/19/2026 2:38 AM, Paul wrote:

> You should be working on your Secure Boot and your BIOS.
> That's what I'm doing right how. My motherboard
> company released yet another BIOS on May 29 2026.
> 
>     Paul

Open powershell application, type following commads one by one

([System.Text.Encoding]::ASCII.GetString((Get-SecureBootUEFI kek).bytes) 
-match ‘Microsoft Corporation KEK 2K CA 2023’)

([System.Text.Encoding]::ASCII.GetString((Get-SecureBootUEFI db).bytes) 
-match ‘Windows UEFI CA 2023’)

([System.Text.Encoding]::ASCII.GetString((Get-SecureBootUEFI db).bytes) 
-match ‘Microsoft UEFI CA 2023’)

([System.Text.Encoding]::ASCII.GetString((Get-SecureBootUEFI db).bytes) 
-match ‘Microsoft option rom UEFI CA 2023’)


Varied results on 3 different devices and atm not entirely what I expected.
All devices updated through June 2026 with latest cumulative, WinRE, SSU 
and avaialble 2023 certs.

Win10 Pro 22H2 ESU (Asus 4th Gen Intel i7-4770 Z87 Sabertooth, 16 GB 
RAM, 1 TB SSD, 4 TB HD)
True for all items - Windows UEFI CA 2023, Microsof UEFI CA 2023, Option 
Rom UEFI CA 2023, KEK 2K CA 2023.

Win11 Pro 25H2 (Acer 8th Gen Intel i7-8550, 16 GB RAM, 256 GB SSD, 1 TB HD)
True for Windows UEFI CA 2023, Microsof UEFI CA 2023, Option Rom UEFI CA 
2023; False for KEK 2K CA 2023

Surface 3 Win10 Pro 22H2 ESU (Intel Atom x7-Z8700, Quad-Core SoC Cherry 
Trail, 4 GB RAM, 128 GB M.2 SSD, 128 GB SDXC)
True for - Windows UEFI CA 2023, Microsoft option rom UEFI CA 2023, 
Microsoft Corporation KEK 2K CA 2023; False for Microsoft UEFI CA 2023

The KEK was 'True' for both Surface and Asus Win10 Pro 22H2 ESU
  - the KEK as True for the Win10 Pro ESU on the Surface was the 
unexpected result (2015 era device)
  - the KEK as False for Win11 Pro on the Acer was interesting because 
it was released 2 yrs later(2017) than the Surface 3(2015) and 4 yrs 
later than the ASUS(2013)


-- 
...w¡ñ§±¤ñ

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#193980

On 2026/6/19 18:54:15, ....winston wrote:
> On 06/19/2026 2:38 AM, Paul wrote:
> 
>> You should be working on your Secure Boot and your BIOS.
>> That's what I'm doing right how. My motherboard
>> company released yet another BIOS on May 29 2026.
>>
>>     Paul
> 
> Open powershell application, type following commads one by one
> 
> ([System.Text.Encoding]::ASCII.GetString((Get-SecureBootUEFI kek).bytes) 
> -match ‘Microsoft Corporation KEK 2K CA 2023’)
> 
> ([System.Text.Encoding]::ASCII.GetString((Get-SecureBootUEFI db).bytes) 
> -match ‘Windows UEFI CA 2023’)
> 
> ([System.Text.Encoding]::ASCII.GetString((Get-SecureBootUEFI db).bytes) 
> -match ‘Microsoft UEFI CA 2023’)
> 
> ([System.Text.Encoding]::ASCII.GetString((Get-SecureBootUEFI db).bytes) 
> -match ‘Microsoft option rom UEFI CA 2023’)
[]
Once I'd run powershell with admin. privileges, and ensured the commands
(including the "-match ...") part were all on one line, I got

True
True
True
True

Is that good, bad, or indifferent? (Windows 10-64 22H2 19045.7417)
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#193981

J. P. Gilliver wrote on 6/19/2026 3:47 PM:
> On 2026/6/19 18:54:15, ....winston wrote:
>> On 06/19/2026 2:38 AM, Paul wrote:
>>
>>> You should be working on your Secure Boot and your BIOS.
>>> That's what I'm doing right how. My motherboard
>>> company released yet another BIOS on May 29 2026.
>>>
>>>      Paul
>>
>> Open powershell application, type following commads one by one
>>
>> ([System.Text.Encoding]::ASCII.GetString((Get-SecureBootUEFI kek).bytes)
>> -match ‘Microsoft Corporation KEK 2K CA 2023’)
>>
>> ([System.Text.Encoding]::ASCII.GetString((Get-SecureBootUEFI db).bytes)
>> -match ‘Windows UEFI CA 2023’)
>>
>> ([System.Text.Encoding]::ASCII.GetString((Get-SecureBootUEFI db).bytes)
>> -match ‘Microsoft UEFI CA 2023’)
>>
>> ([System.Text.Encoding]::ASCII.GetString((Get-SecureBootUEFI db).bytes)
>> -match ‘Microsoft option rom UEFI CA 2023’)
> []
> Once I'd run powershell with admin. privileges, and ensured the commands
> (including the "-match ...") part were all on one line, I got
> 
> True
> True
> True
> True
> 
> Is that good, bad, or indifferent? (Windows 10-64 22H2 19045.7417)
> 

Isn't that a pretty OLD version of windows?

It's so old that a lot of your concerns don't even make sense.

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#193983

On Fri, 6/19/2026 5:51 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
> J. P. Gilliver wrote on 6/19/2026 3:47 PM:
>> On 2026/6/19 18:54:15, ....winston wrote:
>>> On 06/19/2026 2:38 AM, Paul wrote:
>>>
>>>> You should be working on your Secure Boot and your BIOS.
>>>> That's what I'm doing right how. My motherboard
>>>> company released yet another BIOS on May 29 2026.
>>>>
>>>>      Paul
>>>
>>> Open powershell application, type following commads one by one
>>>
>>> ([System.Text.Encoding]::ASCII.GetString((Get-SecureBootUEFI kek).bytes)
>>> -match ‘Microsoft Corporation KEK 2K CA 2023’)
>>>
>>> ([System.Text.Encoding]::ASCII.GetString((Get-SecureBootUEFI db).bytes)
>>> -match ‘Windows UEFI CA 2023’)
>>>
>>> ([System.Text.Encoding]::ASCII.GetString((Get-SecureBootUEFI db).bytes)
>>> -match ‘Microsoft UEFI CA 2023’)
>>>
>>> ([System.Text.Encoding]::ASCII.GetString((Get-SecureBootUEFI db).bytes)
>>> -match ‘Microsoft option rom UEFI CA 2023’)
>> []
>> Once I'd run powershell with admin. privileges, and ensured the commands
>> (including the "-match ...") part were all on one line, I got
>>
>> True
>> True
>> True
>> True
>>
>> Is that good, bad, or indifferent? (Windows 10-64 22H2 19045.7417)
>>
> 
> Isn't that a pretty OLD version of windows?
> 
> It's so old that a lot of your concerns don't even make sense.

If it's an old OS, you're fixing it up enough so that it
does not stop booting (only if running with Secure Boot enabled).

It's not an old OS if the ESU is enabled, as it is getting security updates
until the end of the year.

The machine I was cleaning up is a gutless spare computer (22 watts). You can install
OSes on it, without using Rufus. One of its problems, is the iGPU in it
doesn't drive the LCD monitor properly at BIOS level, so the machine
sits in the corner waiting for a "Bargain GPU". Once the OS driver loads,
the screen works. The computer case will not accept two-slot or wider video
cards (unless I do some metalwork on it).

The RAM in the machine is worth keeping, so I could replace the other
bits with something more power-hungry. It's got some DDR4 from when RAM
was (relatively) cheap.

   Paul

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#193988

On 06/19/2026 5:51 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
> J. P. Gilliver wrote on 6/19/2026 3:47 PM:
>> On 2026/6/19 18:54:15, ....winston wrote:
>>> On 06/19/2026 2:38 AM, Paul wrote:
>>>
>>>> You should be working on your Secure Boot and your BIOS.
>>>> That's what I'm doing right how. My motherboard
>>>> company released yet another BIOS on May 29 2026.
>>>>
>>>>      Paul
>>>
>>> Open powershell application, type following commads one by one
>>>
>>> ([System.Text.Encoding]::ASCII.GetString((Get-SecureBootUEFI kek).bytes)
>>> -match ‘Microsoft Corporation KEK 2K CA 2023’)
>>>
>>> ([System.Text.Encoding]::ASCII.GetString((Get-SecureBootUEFI db).bytes)
>>> -match ‘Windows UEFI CA 2023’)
>>>
>>> ([System.Text.Encoding]::ASCII.GetString((Get-SecureBootUEFI db).bytes)
>>> -match ‘Microsoft UEFI CA 2023’)
>>>
>>> ([System.Text.Encoding]::ASCII.GetString((Get-SecureBootUEFI db).bytes)
>>> -match ‘Microsoft option rom UEFI CA 2023’)
>> []
>> Once I'd run powershell with admin. privileges, and ensured the commands
>> (including the "-match ...") part were all on one line, I got
>>
>> True
>> True
>> True
>> True
>>
>> Is that good, bad, or indifferent? (Windows 10-64 22H2 19045.7417)
>>
> 
> Isn't that a pretty OLD version of windows?
> 
> It's so old that a lot of your concerns don't even make sense.
> 
> 

Windows 10 22H2 19045.7417
  => latest version/build released on June 9, 2026 when enrolled in ESU 
(Window 10 22H2 Extended Security Updates)


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#193989

On 06/19/2026 4:47 PM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
> On 2026/6/19 18:54:15, ....winston wrote:
>> On 06/19/2026 2:38 AM, Paul wrote:
>>
>>> You should be working on your Secure Boot and your BIOS.
>>> That's what I'm doing right how. My motherboard
>>> company released yet another BIOS on May 29 2026.
>>>
>>>      Paul
>>
>> Open powershell application, type following commads one by one
>>
>> ([System.Text.Encoding]::ASCII.GetString((Get-SecureBootUEFI kek).bytes)
>> -match ‘Microsoft Corporation KEK 2K CA 2023’)
>>
>> ([System.Text.Encoding]::ASCII.GetString((Get-SecureBootUEFI db).bytes)
>> -match ‘Windows UEFI CA 2023’)
>>
>> ([System.Text.Encoding]::ASCII.GetString((Get-SecureBootUEFI db).bytes)
>> -match ‘Microsoft UEFI CA 2023’)
>>
>> ([System.Text.Encoding]::ASCII.GetString((Get-SecureBootUEFI db).bytes)
>> -match ‘Microsoft option rom UEFI CA 2023’)
> []
> Once I'd run powershell with admin. privileges, and ensured the commands
> (including the "-match ...") part were all on one line, I got
> 
> True
> True
> True
> True
> 
> Is that good, bad, or indifferent? (Windows 10-64 22H2 19045.7417)

About as good as its going to be.

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#193895

On 06/16/2026 9:19 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2026-06-16 13:44, Paul wrote:
>> And nobody wore suits in our mainframe facilities. Same goes
>> for the university mainframe. Attire was casual. You would
>> wear something heavy enough, for the conditions.
> 
> It is worse if you sit down.
> 
> I'm told there are worse places: abattoirs. I knew a cleaning girl that 
> preferred cleaning than working there. She got sick.
> 

A place unlikely for any Windows 11 or 10 devices at 7C/44F or lower.

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#193898

On 6/16/2026 10:26 PM, ....winston wrote:
> On 06/16/2026 9:19 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> On 2026-06-16 13:44, Paul wrote:
>>> And nobody wore suits in our mainframe facilities. Same goes
>>> for the university mainframe. Attire was casual. You would
>>> wear something heavy enough, for the conditions.
> 
> A place unlikely for any Windows 11 or 10 devices at 7C/44F or lower.
> 

No.

3270 terminal emulation is available since MS-DOS days. You needed a 
3270 adapter to do it, and relevant software of course. Nowadays, I 
believe IBM mainframes can bridge with TCP/IP and run 3270 terminal 
emulation on top of it. The same should go to IBM AS/400.

windows 3270 emulation - Google 搜尋
<https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&channel=entpr&q=windows+3270+emulation>

IBM 3270 - Wikipedia
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_3270>

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#193916

On 06/16/2026 11:03 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> On 6/16/2026 10:26 PM, ....winston wrote:
>> On 06/16/2026 9:19 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>> On 2026-06-16 13:44, Paul wrote:
>>>> And nobody wore suits in our mainframe facilities. Same goes
>>>> for the university mainframe. Attire was casual. You would
>>>> wear something heavy enough, for the conditions.
>>
>> A place unlikely for any Windows 11 or 10 devices at 7C/44F or lower.
>>
> 
> No.

You missed the point or didn't understand the concept.

Few Windows 11 or 10 devices are present on mainframe servers(an 
unlikely place for Windows 11/10 devices). Windows 11/10 devices are 
external to mainframe environment and acting as endpoint for mainframe 
management.


> 3270 terminal emulation is available since MS-DOS days. You needed a 
> 3270 adapter to do it, and relevant software of course. Nowadays, I 
> believe IBM mainframes can bridge with TCP/IP and run 3270 terminal 
> emulation on top of it. The same should go to IBM AS/400.

Enterprise admins are not jumping through hoops to use 3270 emulation.

Those 3270 emulators are becoming dinosaurs, less secure in protecting 
business or risk.  For some time, the two-tier web-based alternatives 
that provide better security, compliance, better overall practices for 
end-end encryption, PassTicket, Name Assignment, MFA/SSO integration, 
simplified maintenance, lower effort(cost, manpower), updates, user 
experience.



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#193920

On 6/17/2026 8:05 AM, ....winston wrote:
> On 06/16/2026 11:03 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>> On 6/16/2026 10:26 PM, ....winston wrote:
>>>
>>> A place unlikely for any Windows 11 or 10 devices at 7C/44F or lower.
>>>
>>
>> No.
> 
> You missed the point or didn't understand the concept.
Sorry... sorry... I failed to comprehend "7C/44F" as temperature 
readings. I now humblely appologize:

BANG!!! BANG!!! (shot my hair!)

Sorry!! :)

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#193921 — Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation

On 6/17/2026 8:05 AM, ....winston wrote:
> 
> Few Windows 11 or 10 devices are present on mainframe servers(an
> unlikely place for Windows 11/10 devices). Windows 11/10 devices are
> external to mainframe environment and acting as endpoint for mainframe
> management.

Why not place some Windows machines inside a computer room if they can 
run terminal emulation? I think operator consoles of IBM mainframes are 
still 3270????

> Enterprise admins are not jumping through hoops to use 3270 emulation.

Which is strange!! There is nothing wrong about 3270, VT-100 and ANSI. 
To secure these old protocols, just box or wrap them with a security 
shield???

BTW, IBM mainframes (and AS/400 possibly) have communication controllers 
with security built-in.

> Those 3270 emulators are becoming dinosaurs, less secure in protecting
> business or risk.  For some time, the two-tier web-based ....

What made modern LAN and Wifi adapters/USB dongles more secured?  :)

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