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(old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-05-30 19:31 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-30 13:11 +0100
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-05-30 21:27 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-30 16:29 +0100
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-15 18:52 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-06-15 08:58 -0400
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-15 22:35 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-06-15 14:07 -0400
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? Dennis <nobody@nowhere.invalid> - 2026-06-15 18:31 -0400
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 12:40 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-06-16 07:44 -0400
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 19:48 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-16 15:19 +0200
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 21:55 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-16 20:28 +0200
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-18 12:59 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-18 08:40 +0200
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-18 17:49 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-18 14:20 +0200
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-18 14:21 +0200
Re: (old_version.exe .... devices at 7C/44F or lower "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-18 21:56 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-19 19:32 +1000
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> - 2026-06-18 21:26 +0100
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-19 00:26 +0200
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 12:12 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-06-19 02:38 -0400
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-19 19:39 +1000
Re: Moving from Windows to Linux "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 18:40 +0800
Re: Moving from Windows to Linux Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-20 21:31 +1000
Re: Moving from Windows to Linux "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-20 20:45 +0800
Re: Moving from Windows to Linux Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-21 22:19 +1000
Re: Moving from Windows to Linux "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-21 20:26 +0800
Re: Moving from Windows to Linux Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-21 23:04 +1000
Re: Moving from Windows to Linux "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-21 22:41 +0800
Re: Moving from Windows to Linux "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-06-21 20:11 +0100
Re: Moving from Windows to Linux Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-22 17:34 +1000
Re: Moving from Windows to Linux ... bank, passbook, paper, ink "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 19:01 +0800
Re: Moving from Windows to Linux ... bank, passbook, paper, ink Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-22 21:20 +1000
Re: Moving from Windows to Linux ... bank, passbook, paper, ink Bank Accounts <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-22 22:20 +0100
Re: Moving from Windows to Linux ... bank, passbook, paper, ink "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 00:55 -0400
Re: Moving from Windows to Linux ... bank, passbook, paper, ink "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-23 11:09 +0200
Re: Moving from Windows to Linux ... bank, passbook, paper, ink Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-23 10:19 +0100
Re: Moving from Windows to Linux ... bank, passbook, paper, ink "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-23 12:02 +0200
Re: Moving from Windows to Linux ... bank, passbook, paper, ink Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-23 11:16 +0100
Re: Moving from Windows to Linux ... bank, passbook, paper, ink "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-23 14:11 +0200
Re: Moving from Windows to Linux ... bank, passbook, paper, ink Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-24 00:09 +1000
Re: Moving from Windows to Linux ... bank, passbook, paper, ink "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-24 00:30 +0800
Re: Moving from Windows to Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-21 19:01 +0000
Re: Secured Boot & BIOS "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 18:39 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 13:54 -0400
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-06-19 21:47 +0100
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-19 16:51 -0500
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-06-19 22:14 -0400
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-06-20 05:44 -0400
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-06-20 05:50 -0400
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 10:26 -0400
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 23:03 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 20:05 -0400
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-17 11:08 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-17 11:19 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-06-17 02:31 -0400
Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-17 19:24 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-18 13:02 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-06-18 02:04 -0400
Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-18 17:50 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-06-18 06:48 -0700
Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-18 15:25 +0100
Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-06-18 08:00 -0700
Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-06-18 16:39 +0100
Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-06-18 07:58 -0700
Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 01:04 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-19 19:47 +1000
Re: (old_version.exe... IBM World Trade Asia Corp & Hong Kong 1997 "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 18:43 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe... IBM World Trade Asia Corp & Hong Kong 1997 Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-20 21:47 +1000
Re: (old_version.exe... IBM World Trade Asia Corp & Hong Kong 1997 "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-20 23:01 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-06-19 07:38 -0700
[OT] "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 23:39 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation Mister Johnson <root@example.net> - 2026-06-20 11:51 +0000
Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 01:02 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 18:50 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-19 15:17 +0100
Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, no handle "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 23:37 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, no handle Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-06-19 23:27 -0400
Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, no handle "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-20 11:45 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, no handle Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-06-20 09:24 -0400
Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, no handle "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-20 22:58 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, no handle "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-06-20 16:27 +0100
Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, home safety "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-21 00:07 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, home safety Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-21 08:57 +0100
Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, home safety "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-21 19:27 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, home safety "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-06-21 20:16 +0100
Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, home safety Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-06-21 19:28 -0400
Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, home safety "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 13:21 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, home safety Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-06-22 02:52 -0400
Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, home safety "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-22 10:44 +0200
Re: (old_version.exe... kite "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 19:03 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-16 20:30 +0200
Re: (old_version.exe ... mainframe computer room? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-18 13:04 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe ... mainframe computer room? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-18 08:43 +0200
Re: (old_version.exe ... mainframe computer room? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-18 17:51 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-06-15 20:24 -0400
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 12:35 +0800
Re: (old_version.exe + delta update) == (new_version.exe)?? JJ <jj4public@gmail.com> - 2026-05-31 08:59 +0700
Re: Original exe : delta updates = DNA : RNA vaccines ??? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-15 14:12 +0800
Re: Original exe : delta updates = DNA : RNA vaccines ??? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-15 14:44 +0800
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| From | Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-06-19 15:17 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: (old_version.exe... IBM mainframes and 3270 emulation |
| Message-ID | <n9l1ceFkt9bU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #193972 |
Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: > I also touched many PS/2 computers physically. They are no more now. But > I like their metal chassis... A very satisfying 'thunk' from the handle of a PS/2 Model 80 falling back into place ...
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| From | "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-19 23:37 +0800 |
| Subject | Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, no handle |
| Message-ID | <1113nnv$3e28s$1@toylet.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #193973 |
On 6/19/2026 10:17 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
> Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>
>> I also touched many PS/2 computers physically. They are no more now. But
>> I like their metal chassis...
>
> A very satisfying 'thunk' from the handle of a PS/2 Model 80 falling
> back into place ...
Did you notice that those fish-tank computer chassis usually have no
handle to lift them?
What if the glass was so slipper and you dropped the glassy fancy
chassis? :)
I can see why manufacturers love glassy computer chassis. And it must be
black so that you cannot see them in the dark.
--
@~@ Simplicity is Beauty! Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch!
/ v \ May the Force and farces be with you! Live long and prosper!!
/( _ )\ https://sites.google.com/site/changmw/
^ ^ https://github.com/changmw/changmw
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-19 23:27 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, no handle |
| Message-ID | <11151ao$3otcj$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #193975 |
On Fri, 6/19/2026 11:37 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> On 6/19/2026 10:17 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
>> Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>>
>>> I also touched many PS/2 computers physically. They are no more now. But
>>> I like their metal chassis...
>>
>> A very satisfying 'thunk' from the handle of a PS/2 Model 80 falling
>> back into place ...
>
>
> Did you notice that those fish-tank computer chassis usually have no handle to lift them?
>
> What if the glass was so slipper and you dropped the glassy fancy chassis? :)
>
> I can see why manufacturers love glassy computer chassis. And it must be black so that you cannot see them in the dark.
>
I often wonder what people buy for computer cases.
It used to be, the "popular" cases were the ones for $40
with the sharp metal edges on them. The person would show
you all the bandages on their hands from the build, with
a big shit-eating grin from the "only paid $40 for this".
You know those will sell. Those were the cases that used
to get crushed by UPS, before the case was delivered (tomato tin
metal).
For the boutique ones, it's hard to say which one is
really popular.
And you can do it this way. Not bother with computer components
and just have the case and some fans :-) Your friends will be
impressed by your sense of "taste".
https://gamersnexus.net/u/styles/large_responsive_no_watermark_/public/inline-images/vlcsnap-2024-06-24-12h01m08s673.jpg.webp
( https://gamersnexus.net/cases/best-pc-cases-2024-so-far-new-designs-round-computex )
And for those people who are worried about dropping their case,
you can get one with a really crappy handle :-) I expect the
first thing you'd be doing, is plotting how to replace that
with a decent handle.
https://gamersnexus.net/u/styles/large_responsive_no_watermark_/public/inline-images/vlcsnap-2024-06-24-12h00m29s442.jpg.webp
Paul
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| From | "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-20 11:45 +0800 |
| Subject | Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, no handle |
| Message-ID | <11152bu$3p1b8$1@toylet.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #193984 |
On 6/20/2026 11:27 AM, Paul wrote:
>
>
> And for those people who are worried about dropping their case,
> you can get one with a really crappy handle :-) I expect the
> first thing you'd be doing, is plotting how to replace that
> with a decent handle.
Can you use sonic sound wave to break tempered glass? I doubt any glassy
computer chassis has sufficient damping. :)
Also in terms of security and privacy, a hidden camera on the
motherboard (disguised as a component) can watch you all day. Or maybe a
really nano-microphone....
--
@~@ Simplicity is Beauty! Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch!
/ v \ May the Force and farces be with you! Live long and prosper!!
/( _ )\ https://sites.google.com/site/changmw/
^ ^ https://github.com/changmw/changmw
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-20 09:24 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, no handle |
| Message-ID | <11164aa$3kpg$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #193985 |
On Fri, 6/19/2026 11:45 PM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: > On 6/20/2026 11:27 AM, Paul wrote: >> >> >> And for those people who are worried about dropping their case, >> you can get one with a really crappy handle :-) I expect the >> first thing you'd be doing, is plotting how to replace that >> with a decent handle. > > Can you use sonic sound wave to break tempered glass? I doubt any glassy computer chassis has sufficient damping. :) > > Also in terms of security and privacy, a hidden camera on the motherboard > (disguised as a component) can watch you all day. Or maybe a really nano-microphone.... I think people have reported that the glass breaks into tiny pieces. Heat would be easier to apply, followed by a splash of cold water should do it. The last computer case I bought, there were three options. And I picked the option where there were no glass panels. That's because I knew you'd be around with your sonic thingy, to test it :-) The metal case is pretty robust. Paul
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| From | "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-20 22:58 +0800 |
| Subject | Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, no handle |
| Message-ID | <11169qr$570l$1@toylet.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #193994 |
On 6/20/2026 9:24 PM, Paul wrote:
>
> I think people have reported that the glass breaks into tiny pieces.
>
> Heat would be easier to apply, followed by a splash of cold water should do it.
>
> The last computer case I bought, there were three options. And I
> picked the option where there were no glass panels. That's because I knew
> you'd be around with your sonic thingy, to test it :-) The metal
> case is pretty robust.
It's home safety. You do NOT compromise.
--
@~@ Simplicity is Beauty! Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch!
/ v \ May the Force and farces be with you! Live long and prosper!!
/( _ )\ https://sites.google.com/site/changmw/
^ ^ https://github.com/changmw/changmw
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| From | "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-06-20 16:27 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, no handle |
| Message-ID | <1116bg4$588o$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #193995 |
On 2026/6/20 15:58:35, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: > On 6/20/2026 9:24 PM, Paul wrote: >> >> I think people have reported that the glass breaks into tiny pieces. [] > It's home safety. You do NOT compromise. > If it _does_ break into tiny pieces, that _will_ be safety: the sort of glass used in bus shelters and other similar places is safer, because the tiny pieces are (an approximation to) little cubes, with fairly blunt points, rather than long jagged pieces with sharp points/edges. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Don't play "stupid" with me... I'm better at it.
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| From | "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-21 00:07 +0800 |
| Subject | Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, home safety |
| Message-ID | <1116drl$6coj$2@toylet.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #193997 |
On 6/20/2026 11:27 PM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
> On 2026/6/20 15:58:35, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>>
>> It's home safety. You do NOT compromise.
>>
> If it _does_ break into tiny pieces, that _will_ be safety: the sort of
> glass used in bus shelters and other similar places is safer, because
> the tiny pieces are (an approximation to) little cubes, with fairly
> blunt points, rather than long jagged pieces with sharp points/edges.
I don't care how things break into safe pieces. Nothing breaks in a safe
home! :)
Do you break your dishes and cups every day? Your job breaks things?
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| From | Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-21 08:57 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, home safety |
| Message-ID | <11185h3$k6oe$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #193998 |
(only following the folklore group, if I were to suggest a move, it'd perhaps be to comp.misc?) On 2026-06-20, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: > On 6/20/2026 11:27 PM, J. P. Gilliver wrote: >> On 2026/6/20 15:58:35, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: >>> >>> It's home safety. You do NOT compromise. >>> >> If it _does_ break into tiny pieces, that _will_ be safety: the sort of >> glass used in bus shelters and other similar places is safer, because >> the tiny pieces are (an approximation to) little cubes, with fairly >> blunt points, rather than long jagged pieces with sharp points/edges. > > I don't care how things break into safe pieces. Nothing breaks in a > safe home! :) > > Do you break your dishes and cups every day? Your job breaks things? Now that's to home safety like "What could possibly go wrong?" is to engineering. -- Nuno Silva
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| From | "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-21 19:27 +0800 |
| Subject | Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, home safety |
| Message-ID | <1118hql$oknk$1@toylet.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #194005 |
On 6/21/2026 3:57 PM, Nuno Silva wrote:
>
> Now that's to home safety like "What could possibly go wrong?" is to
> engineering.
Engineering is a job. Keep it in the workplace!!
A home should NOT be a laboratory nor a factory.
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| From | "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-06-21 20:16 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, home safety |
| Message-ID | <1119da7$iohc$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #194006 |
On 2026/6/21 12:27:17, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: > On 6/21/2026 3:57 PM, Nuno Silva wrote: >> >> Now that's to home safety like "What could possibly go wrong?" is to >> engineering. > > > Engineering is a job. Keep it in the workplace!! > > A home should NOT be a laboratory nor a factory. > > No, but that doesn't mean you should throw out all safety precautions. Just because I don't break something every day, doesn't mean I shouldn't take at least reasonable precautions against when an accident happens. What constitutes reasonable, of course, is open to each homeowner's opinion (though he may be liable ...); manufacturers of things that might be used in the home - including PC cases - err more on the cautious side than the average home-owner. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf … too popular actually to be any good. - Alison Graham in Radio Times 2-8 February 2013
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-21 19:28 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, home safety |
| Message-ID | <1119s29$14v7e$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #194006 |
On Sun, 6/21/2026 7:27 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: > On 6/21/2026 3:57 PM, Nuno Silva wrote: >> >> Now that's to home safety like "What could possibly go wrong?" is to >> engineering. > > > Engineering is a job. Keep it in the workplace!! > > A home should NOT be a laboratory nor a factory. > > You've led a much-too-sheltered life, if you haven't been constantly making things. I once built a kite, that was 12 feet high and 9 feet wide. The tail on the kite was 50 feet long. It took a 30MPH breeze, to get that airborne. The first day, I couldn't get enough breeze to do it. But the next day, I didn't have to run with it. I figured this is great, I'll have no problem getting this up in the sky. After a harness adjustment, away we went. Well, what do you notice when a thing is that big ? It's dragging you along the ground. You can't hold it back. You're running out of field... You have to dump the kite. And just at that moment, the kite decides to become unstable and it's heading for the ground at warp velocity. I had to give a "giant pull" on the string at the last moment (I knew I was in trouble on the trajectory). The kite cleared a power line (11kV) by only about six inches :-) It was never my intention to be over the adjacent street with the stupid thing. It started out just fine over the field I was in. One of the spars broke on impact. The other spar is still in the basement back home, as a piece of scrap lumber. That's how we learn things. By building stuff. I can confidently tell you, not to do that :-) Scaling a kite is OK, just not that much. It was just my luck, a windy-enough day happens by, for the launch. This was spring kite-weather. If the wind had not been that high, I would have concluded it would never get off the ground. Well, it got off the ground :-) Paul
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| From | "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-22 13:21 +0800 |
| Subject | Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, home safety |
| Message-ID | <111agp2$19ks0$1@toylet.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #194014 |
On 6/22/2026 7:28 AM, Paul wrote:
>
> I once built a kite, that was 12 feet high and 9 feet wide.
> The tail on the kite was 50 feet long.
>
> It took a 30MPH breeze, to get that airborne. The first
> .....
> Well, what do you notice when a thing is that big ?
> It's dragging you along the ground. You can't hold it back.
Did you also discover electricity with that 12x9 kite? :)
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-22 02:52 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, home safety |
| Message-ID | <111am2r$1b1bt$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #194015 |
On Mon, 6/22/2026 1:21 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: > On 6/22/2026 7:28 AM, Paul wrote: >> >> I once built a kite, that was 12 feet high and 9 feet wide. >> The tail on the kite was 50 feet long. >> >> It took a 30MPH breeze, to get that airborne. The first >> ..... >> Well, what do you notice when a thing is that big ? >> It's dragging you along the ground. You can't hold it back. > > Did you also discover electricity with that 12x9 kite? :) > You can check for activity, before you fly a kite. https://weather.gc.ca/?layers=lightning Paul
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-22 10:44 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, home safety |
| Message-ID | <n9sb02Fotp4U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #194014 |
On 2026-06-22 01:28, Paul wrote:
> On Sun, 6/21/2026 7:27 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>> On 6/21/2026 3:57 PM, Nuno Silva wrote:
>>>
>>> Now that's to home safety like "What could possibly go wrong?" is to
>>> engineering.
>>
>>
>> Engineering is a job. Keep it in the workplace!!
>>
>> A home should NOT be a laboratory nor a factory.
>>
>>
>
> You've led a much-too-sheltered life, if you haven't
> been constantly making things.
>
> I once built a kite, that was 12 feet high and 9 feet wide.
> The tail on the kite was 50 feet long.
>
> It took a 30MPH breeze, to get that airborne. The first
> day, I couldn't get enough breeze to do it. But the
> next day, I didn't have to run with it. I figured this is
> great, I'll have no problem getting this up in the sky.
> After a harness adjustment, away we went.
>
> Well, what do you notice when a thing is that big ?
> It's dragging you along the ground. You can't hold it back.
> You're running out of field... You have to dump the kite.
> And just at that moment, the kite decides to become unstable
> and it's heading for the ground at warp velocity.
> I had to give a "giant pull" on the string at the
> last moment (I knew I was in trouble on the trajectory).
> The kite cleared a power line (11kV) by only about six inches :-)
I have the vague recollection of seeing somewhere large kites flown by
teams of people.
>
> It was never my intention to be over the adjacent street
> with the stupid thing. It started out just fine
> over the field I was in.
>
> One of the spars broke on impact. The other spar is still
> in the basement back home, as a piece of scrap lumber.
>
> That's how we learn things. By building stuff.
>
> I can confidently tell you, not to do that :-)
> Scaling a kite is OK, just not that much.
>
> It was just my luck, a windy-enough day happens by,
> for the launch. This was spring kite-weather. If the wind
> had not been that high, I would have concluded it would
> never get off the ground. Well, it got off the ground :-)
>
> Paul
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| From | "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-22 19:03 +0800 |
| Subject | Re: (old_version.exe... kite |
| Message-ID | <111b4pn$1f7b2$3@toylet.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #194014 |
On 6/22/2026 7:28 AM, Paul wrote:
>
> I once built a kite, that was 12 feet high and 9 feet wide.
> The tail on the kite was 50 feet long.
>
> It took a 30MPH breeze, to get that airborne. The first
> .....
> Well, what do you notice when a thing is that big ?
> It's dragging you along the ground. You can't hold it back.
Did you also discover electricity with that 12x9 kite? :)
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-16 20:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <n9dj1fFff4aU5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #193895 |
On 2026-06-16 16:26, ....winston wrote:
> On 06/16/2026 9:19 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> On 2026-06-16 13:44, Paul wrote:
>>> And nobody wore suits in our mainframe facilities. Same goes
>>> for the university mainframe. Attire was casual. You would
>>> wear something heavy enough, for the conditions.
>>
>> It is worse if you sit down.
>>
>> I'm told there are worse places: abattoirs. I knew a cleaning girl
>> that preferred cleaning than working there. She got sick.
>>
>
> A place unlikely for any Windows 11 or 10 devices at 7C/44F or lower.
I'm sure the place, if modern, is full of electronic controllers and
computers.
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| From | "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-18 13:04 +0800 |
| Subject | Re: (old_version.exe ... mainframe computer room? |
| Message-ID | <110vu8n$2c52p$3@toylet.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #193907 |
On 6/17/2026 2:30 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2026-06-16 16:26, ....winston wrote:
>>
>> A place unlikely for any Windows 11 or 10 devices at 7C/44F or lower.
>
> I'm sure the place, if modern, is full of electronic controllers and
> computers.
>
I still don't see why a mainframe computer cannot have DOS, OS/2,
Windows and Linux machines. Can I talk to your commander? :)
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-18 08:43 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: (old_version.exe ... mainframe computer room? |
| Message-ID | <n9hibuF3teeU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #193942 |
On 2026-06-18 07:04, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> On 6/17/2026 2:30 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> On 2026-06-16 16:26, ....winston wrote:
>>>
>>> A place unlikely for any Windows 11 or 10 devices at 7C/44F or lower.
>>
>> I'm sure the place, if modern, is full of electronic controllers and
>> computers.
>>
>
>
> I still don't see why a mainframe computer cannot have DOS, OS/2,
> Windows and Linux machines. Can I talk to your commander? :)
>
They simply don't. They may use PCs to connect to the mainframe while
sitting in the office, though.
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| From | "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-18 17:51 +0800 |
| Subject | Re: (old_version.exe ... mainframe computer room? |
| Message-ID | <1110f2c$2gmlp$3@toylet.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #193947 |
On 6/18/2026 2:43 PM ....
>>
>> I still don't see why a mainframe computer cannot have DOS, OS/2,
>> Windows and Linux machines. Can I talk to your commander? :)
>>
> They simply don't. They may use PCs to connect to the mainframe while
> sitting in the office, though.
>
Answer not accepted. BANG!!
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