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| Started by | "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> |
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| First post | 2025-10-27 08:14 -0400 |
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DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-10-27 08:14 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-27 09:43 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-10-27 14:03 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-27 10:19 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-27 21:37 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-28 01:26 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-28 06:08 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-28 02:59 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Felix <none@not.here> - 2025-10-28 21:29 +1100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-10-28 11:17 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-28 23:11 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-10-29 13:36 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-29 21:37 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-29 19:52 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-10-28 13:14 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-10-27 13:54 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-27 10:12 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2025-10-27 15:01 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-27 21:35 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-27 19:06 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-27 23:10 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Felix <none@not.here> - 2025-10-28 12:20 +1100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-10-28 11:18 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Felix <none@not.here> - 2025-10-28 23:26 +1100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2025-10-28 13:10 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Felix <none@not.here> - 2025-10-29 00:21 +1100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-28 23:14 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-10-29 13:43 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Handsome Jack <jack@handsome.com> - 2025-10-29 14:13 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-29 11:16 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-29 21:42 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-29 20:02 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2025-10-30 15:32 +0200
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-30 21:11 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2025-10-29 15:00 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-29 12:24 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-29 21:41 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-29 20:12 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2025-10-30 10:10 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-29 21:39 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-29 20:37 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-10-28 13:23 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Windows Devil <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-27 14:00 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-27 11:16 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Monsieur <Monsieur@notreal.invalid> - 2025-10-27 18:19 +0100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Felix <none@not.here> - 2025-10-28 11:31 +1100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-27 21:34 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-10-28 13:35 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-27 21:32 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-10-28 22:09 +1100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-10-28 11:27 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2025-10-28 16:27 -0700
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-10-29 19:57 +0100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-29 21:44 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Felix <none@not.here> - 2025-10-30 10:32 +1100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-10-30 15:30 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-10-30 15:22 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-10-30 16:59 +0100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-30 14:33 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-10-31 13:58 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-10-31 19:48 +0100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-10-31 20:20 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-11-01 13:53 +0100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-31 18:55 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:29 +0100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-11-01 05:59 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:33 +0100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-11-01 09:50 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-11-01 16:11 +0100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-01 20:26 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-11-01 17:00 -0500
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Felix <none@not.here> - 2025-10-31 11:28 +1100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-31 08:23 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Felix <none@not.here> - 2025-10-31 23:37 +1100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-10-31 19:52 +0100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-10-31 20:20 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2025-10-31 13:57 -0700
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 23:02 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-11-01 16:10 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2025-11-01 11:01 -0700
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2025-11-01 12:00 -0700
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-01 19:40 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:44 -0700
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Sump <sumpusent@outlook.com> - 2025-11-01 23:00 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2025-11-01 17:07 -0700
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-11-02 14:21 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-02 01:17 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-11-02 14:07 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2025-11-01 02:28 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-11-01 16:19 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 23:00 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 22:59 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-11-01 16:41 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-10-31 14:53 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Felix <none@not.here> - 2025-11-01 10:21 +1100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Stan Brown <someone@example.com> - 2025-10-27 09:14 -0700
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-27 13:17 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-10-27 13:58 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-10-27 18:38 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-10-27 18:43 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-10-29 22:00 +1100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-10-29 14:03 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-10-30 19:54 +1100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-30 21:18 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-29 21:48 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2025-10-29 11:50 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Felix <none@not.here> - 2025-10-29 23:31 +1100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Felix <none@not.here> - 2025-10-29 23:42 +1100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-29 08:50 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2025-10-29 20:34 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-29 21:20 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-30 08:25 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-30 14:41 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-31 09:04 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2025-10-28 16:40 -0700
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> - 2025-10-27 20:47 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-27 21:18 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Felix <none@not.here> - 2025-10-28 12:10 +1100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-10-28 13:44 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Felix <none@not.here> - 2025-10-29 10:27 +1100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-28 02:09 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Handsome Jack <jack@handsome.com> - 2025-10-28 07:13 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-28 05:06 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-10-28 11:59 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-10-29 23:13 +1100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-29 08:58 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-10-30 00:32 +1100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-10-29 22:55 +1100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2025-10-28 16:46 -0700
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-10-28 20:03 -0500
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2025-10-28 19:10 -0700
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Felix <none@not.here> - 2025-10-29 17:33 +1100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-10-29 23:18 +1100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Felix <none@not.here> - 2025-10-29 23:36 +1100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-10-30 00:42 +1100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Felix <none@not.here> - 2025-10-30 01:05 +1100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-10-29 14:36 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-29 11:29 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-29 22:05 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-29 21:58 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-10-30 07:26 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-30 21:46 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-29 21:57 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-30 08:45 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2025-10-30 10:28 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-30 11:01 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2025-10-30 13:13 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-30 14:35 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-30 13:51 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-30 21:45 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2025-10-30 22:58 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-31 08:43 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-30 21:33 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-30 21:27 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> - 2025-10-30 10:16 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-30 14:04 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-30 21:20 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-30 21:19 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-30 18:34 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-30 23:09 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2025-10-29 20:28 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-10-30 17:01 +0100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-30 14:19 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:42 +0100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-10-29 11:31 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> - 2025-10-29 13:12 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-29 12:13 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2025-10-28 19:55 -0700
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-29 08:42 -0400
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-10-28 02:09 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <10dpmn2$1mrb4$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #188848 |
On Mon, 10/27/2025 4:47 PM, MikeS wrote:
> On 27/10/2025 12:14, Alan K. wrote:
>> DistroWatch had what I think is a pretty good q&a here this week.
>> Kinda hits home with recent events in Windows 10 EOL.
>>
>> Short read.
>>
>> https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20251027#qa
>>
>>
>>
>> Advice for new Linux users
>>
>> Roll-out-the-welcome-mat asks: With all the new Linux users coming over with the End of 10, any advice for the Linux newbies?
>>
>>
> I think my take on that article is rather different from any other response so far.
>
> To me it is perfect as a warning to potential Linux users. Stay well away
> unless you want to enter a world of condescending geeks with a warped idea
> that everyone should be "a responsible adult" computer user, i.e. a geek like them.
I would blame it on a lack of leadership, and an inability to plan anything.
This is just human nature in 2025.
There is no money to be made, by rescuing these Win10 people (oops!).
An example of a promotional campaign, would be using WUBI to
intro Windows users to Linux. Which could be relatively painless
as an intro.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wubi_%28software%29
"Wubi creates the "root.disk" file using Microsoft's proprietary
NTFS file system while running under the MS Windows OS and then while
the Ubuntu OS is running it accesses that file using an
alternative file system driver."
Once the new users have absorbed some of the materials delivered via WUBI,
we could try something more ambitious.
The situation to be avoided, is any news story that goes
"I had fifty years of wedding pictures on that disk..."
You know, the disgruntled individual who lost everything,
and had no backup. Those are real people. And that's why
your campaign has to be particularly well designed.
Whether it is recipes for making installer/boot materials for noobs
or recipes for not losing 50 years worth of wedding photos,
there has to be a plan. And saying that now, we're a year too late
to do anything.
Some of our recyclers here, closed a couple years ago. There
simply isn't enough capacity to absorb the discarded machines now.
The waste removal will not accept them. They'll sit on the curb.
Most likely, you'll look on country roads, and next to the
refrigerator and sofa off the side of the road, will now
be added PCs. And that will be our legacy. A PC to go with
their "household" stored on the side of the road.
Paul
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| Date | 2025-10-28 07:13 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10dpqf2$1nnmk$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #188871 |
On Tue, 28 Oct 2025 02:09:38 -0400, Paul wrote: > > Some of our recyclers here, closed a couple years ago. There simply > isn't enough capacity to absorb the discarded machines now. > The waste removal will not accept them. They'll sit on the curb. > Most likely, you'll look on country roads, and next to the refrigerator > and sofa off the side of the road, will now be added PCs. And that will > be our legacy. A PC to go with their "household" stored on the side of > the road. > Here in London, you leave anything vaguely metal out in the front drive, the pikeys have taken it away in a few hours.
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-28 05:06 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <10dq13g$1q85c$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #188873 |
On Tue, 10/28/2025 3:13 AM, Handsome Jack wrote: > On Tue, 28 Oct 2025 02:09:38 -0400, Paul wrote: >> >> Some of our recyclers here, closed a couple years ago. There simply >> isn't enough capacity to absorb the discarded machines now. >> The waste removal will not accept them. They'll sit on the curb. >> Most likely, you'll look on country roads, and next to the refrigerator >> and sofa off the side of the road, will now be added PCs. And that will >> be our legacy. A PC to go with their "household" stored on the side of >> the road. >> > > Here in London, you leave anything vaguely metal out in the front drive, > the pikeys have taken it away in a few hours. > Sure, there is some value in the component parts. But part of the market for those component parts, those machines are being thrown out, so there are fewer people looking for DDR3 sticks for a machine. You could lift them off the curb and recycle the metal bits to the iron monger. I don't know what kind of money you can earn doing that. Taking apart PCs isn't cheap in terms of hours of labour. We had recycling companies, and I think they were in it, for the items turned in that could readily be sold. Carrying an inventory that isn't moving, does not work for them. A pikey can make a few bucks, but is it enough to live off ? Paul
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| From | "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> |
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| Date | 2025-10-28 11:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10dqb76$1fiiq$6@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #188875 |
On 2025/10/28 9:6:53, Paul wrote: > On Tue, 10/28/2025 3:13 AM, Handsome Jack wrote: >> On Tue, 28 Oct 2025 02:09:38 -0400, Paul wrote: >>> >>> Some of our recyclers here, closed a couple years ago. There simply >>> isn't enough capacity to absorb the discarded machines now. Basically, the state of computing - I would say somewhere between about 1995 and 2010 - reached the point where most of the hurdles had been overcome, and computers do what people want: effort in designing/selling new ones ha to switch more into _inventing_ extra things to convince people they "must have". Yes, improvements in _storage_ are an exception; improvements in _processing power_ in theory as well, but with the exception of gaming and similar niche, are sadly mostly absorbed by coding inefficiency - and that is really _nobody's fault_: coding _tools_ nowadays use less efficient means, and it's not cost effective to do otherwise. _Reliability_ of _harware_ has improved such that the (approximately) three to five year cycle is on the whole _not_ driven by that. So - in order to keep the industry (both harware and software) _going_ - obsolescence (and security) FUD has to be upped. >>> The waste removal will not accept them. They'll sit on the curb. (Here in UK, local authorities will take anything, though you have to take it to a recycling centre; what _they_ actually _do_ with them, I have no idea - and I rather suspect more of it goes to landfill than they would admit. there isn't usually a specific computer container to drop them into - just electrical, so they'd go in with vacuum cleaners, lights, toasters, and the like.) >>> Most likely, you'll look on country roads, and next to the refrigerator >>> and sofa off the side of the road, will now be added PCs. And that will >>> be our legacy. A PC to go with their "household" stored on the side of >>> the road. >>> >> >> Here in London, you leave anything vaguely metal out in the front drive, >> the pikeys have taken it away in a few hours. >> Probably to (illegally of course) dump it not much further down the road.> > Sure, there is some value in the component parts. But > part of the market for those component parts, those > machines are being thrown out, so there are fewer people > looking for DDR3 sticks for a machine. > > You could lift them off the curb and recycle the metal bits > to the iron monger. I don't know what kind of money you can earn > doing that. Taking apart PCs isn't cheap in terms of hours of labour. > > We had recycling companies, and I think they were in it, for the items > turned in that could readily be sold. Carrying an inventory that isn't > moving, does not work for them. A pikey can make a few bucks, but > is it enough to live off ? The sort of "Mom and Pop" (usually just one chap) computer store that used to be common, where you could go to buy a second-hand computer, or parts, virtually no longer exists; I'd say here, only about one such to every five or ten large towns. I can only think of one I'd fully qualify in that way, and two others - one who sells parts (along with other electrical components, such as drive belts for things like tape recorders), and one who sells/repairs laptops - within an hour or two's drive of me. (Much the same as electronic repairs in general; Tandy [sort of UK arm of Radio Shack] and Maplin both closed, decades ago I think. Most home electronics isn't thought of as repairable these days - and, cost-effectively anyway, isn't.)> > Paul John -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "He hasn't one redeeming vice." - Oscar Wilde
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> |
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| Date | 2025-10-29 23:13 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <10dt0d9$2t21b$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #188875 |
On 28/10/2025 8:06 pm, Paul wrote: <Snip> > We had recycling companies, and I think they were in it, for the items > turned in that could readily be sold. Carrying an inventory that isn't > moving, does not work for them. A pikey can make a few bucks, but > is it enough to live off ? > > Paul > You know those aluminium foil blister pack thingees you might get ten or a dozen tablets in?? My sister has been recycling them at a chemists back where we used to live (when she had to go back down there to visit her Doctor). Last week, we went to the local Council's re-cycling depot to drop off some electronics .... and there was one of those wheelie garbage bins specifically for recycling those used blister packs!! I know they have some aluminium foil ... but could it really be economical to re-cycle?? Maybe it's the plastic!! -- Daniel70
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-29 08:58 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <10dt30q$2tq74$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #188921 |
On Wed, 10/29/2025 8:13 AM, Daniel70 wrote: > On 28/10/2025 8:06 pm, Paul wrote: > > <Snip> > >> We had recycling companies, and I think they were in it, for the items >> turned in that could readily be sold. Carrying an inventory that isn't >> moving, does not work for them. A pikey can make a few bucks, but >> is it enough to live off ? >> >> Paul >> > You know those aluminium foil blister pack thingees you might get ten or a dozen tablets in?? My sister has been recycling them at a chemists back where we used to live (when she had to go back down there to visit her Doctor). > > Last week, we went to the local Council's re-cycling depot to drop off some electronics .... and there was one of those wheelie garbage bins specifically for recycling those used blister packs!! > > I know they have some aluminium foil ... but could it really be economical to re-cycle?? Maybe it's the plastic!! Drug packaging is sorted separately, to keep drug residue out of the environment. Fish don't like human hormone treatments, so any packaging that had hormones in it, the packaging should be taken back to the pharmacist. When I have a box full of empty vials, I take those back to the store. With caps off. And the staff deal with those. If recycled goods go into a recycling center that washes with water, the drug residue isn't removed by waste water treatment systems, and it goes downstream. And there have been cases of detectable results on fish. The next time you're in a pharmacy, ask the pharmacist about their opinion on waste treatment. The pharmacist has the education to understand the matter. Paul
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> |
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| Date | 2025-10-30 00:32 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <10dt523$2ue3d$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #188928 |
On 29/10/2025 11:58 pm, Paul wrote: > On Wed, 10/29/2025 8:13 AM, Daniel70 wrote: >> On 28/10/2025 8:06 pm, Paul wrote: >> >> <Snip> >> >>> We had recycling companies, and I think they were in it, for the items >>> turned in that could readily be sold. Carrying an inventory that isn't >>> moving, does not work for them. A pikey can make a few bucks, but >>> is it enough to live off ? >>> >>> Paul >>> >> You know those aluminium foil blister pack thingees you might get ten or a dozen tablets in?? My sister has been recycling them at a chemists back where we used to live (when she had to go back down there to visit her Doctor). >> >> Last week, we went to the local Council's re-cycling depot to drop off some electronics .... and there was one of those wheelie garbage bins specifically for recycling those used blister packs!! >> >> I know they have some aluminium foil ... but could it really be economical to re-cycle?? Maybe it's the plastic!! > > Drug packaging is sorted separately, to keep drug residue out of the > environment. Fish don't like human hormone treatments, so any > packaging that had hormones in it, the packaging should be taken back > to the pharmacist. > > When I have a box full of empty vials, I take those back to the store. > With caps off. And the staff deal with those. > > If recycled goods go into a recycling center that washes with water, > the drug residue isn't removed by waste water treatment systems, and > it goes downstream. And there have been cases of detectable > results on fish. > > The next time you're in a pharmacy, ask the pharmacist about their > opinion on waste treatment. The pharmacist has the education to > understand the matter. > > Paul > As this is a Commercial activity undertaken by the Local Council and Commercial Companies, I would expect that whatever 'they' do, it has an official "Okey Dokey". -- Daniel70
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> |
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| Date | 2025-10-29 22:55 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <10dsvbi$2snig$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #188873 |
On 28/10/2025 6:13 pm, Handsome Jack wrote: > On Tue, 28 Oct 2025 02:09:38 -0400, Paul wrote: >> >> Some of our recyclers here, closed a couple years ago. There simply >> isn't enough capacity to absorb the discarded machines now. >> The waste removal will not accept them. They'll sit on the curb. >> Most likely, you'll look on country roads, and next to the refrigerator >> and sofa off the side of the road, will now be added PCs. And that will >> be our legacy. A PC to go with their "household" stored on the side of >> the road. > > Here in London, you leave anything vaguely metal out in the front drive, > the pikeys have taken it away in a few hours. > Well, there's my thing for the day!! I had no idea what the word "pikey" meant so went searching ..... and found that Pikey is a derogatory term for "Gypsy", "Roma" and "Traveller people" .... when I HAD thought "Gypsy", "Roma" and "Traveller people" were just different ways of describing the SAME people!! But, it would seem they are different peoples!! YL, YL. -- Daniel70
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| From | Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-28 16:46 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <mmd2ukFq47pU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #188848 |
MikeS wrote: > To me it is perfect as a warning to potential Linux users. Stay well > away unless you want to enter a world of condescending geeks with a > warped idea that everyone should be "a responsible adult" computer user, > i.e. a geek like them. I disagree. In the great milieu of linux help areas, there is but a relatively small percentage of that type thing. Grow a thicker skin; some condescension isn't going to hurt you; the world is full of that kind of behavior, it isn't unique to linux help. -- Mike Easter
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| From | Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-28 20:03 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <10drp4l$2isun$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #188909 |
Mike Easter wrote on 10/28/2025 6:46 PM: > MikeS wrote: >> To me it is perfect as a warning to potential Linux users. Stay well >> away unless you want to enter a world of condescending geeks with a >> warped idea that everyone should be "a responsible adult" computer >> user, i.e. a geek like them. > > I disagree. In the great milieu of linux help areas, there is but a > relatively small percentage of that type thing. Grow a thicker skin; > some condescension isn't going to hurt you; the world is full of that > kind of behavior, it isn't unique to linux help. > It's pretty easy to help new linux users. I just point them to the man pages and say RTFM. They get the message instantly.
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| From | Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-28 19:10 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <mmdbd2Frm3fU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #188910 |
Hank Rogers wrote: > It's pretty easy to help new linux users. I just point them to the man > pages and say RTFM. They get the message instantly. Perhaps you are being sarcastic. Or perhaps you are pretending to be one of those unhelpful linux helpers MikeS mentioned. I see Win tracks in your header. In any case, while man pages are useful, the only person such flippant advice is useful is to someone who doesn't know that there are man pages. Most people seeking linux help need information provided in a more useful way than just what can be found in man pages, which are often found to be informative but suboptimal for an individual and specific question. -- Mike Easter
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| From | Felix <none@not.here> |
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| Date | 2025-10-29 17:33 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <mmdqpiFu3vkU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #188913 |
Mike Easter wrote: > Hank Rogers wrote: >> It's pretty easy to help new linux users. I just point them to the >> man pages and say RTFM. They get the message instantly. > > Perhaps you are being sarcastic. Or perhaps you are pretending to be > one of those unhelpful linux helpers MikeS mentioned. I see Win > tracks in your header. > > In any case, while man pages are useful, the only person such flippant > advice is useful is to someone who doesn't know that there are man pages. > > Most people seeking linux help need information provided in a more > useful way than just what can be found in man pages, which are often > found to be informative but suboptimal for an individual and specific > question. > where is the LM manual located? -- Linux Mint 22.2 Q: What's the difference between Linux and Windows? A: You rule Linux, Microsoft Windows rules you
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> |
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| Date | 2025-10-29 23:18 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <10dt0lm$2t21b$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #188915 |
On 29/10/2025 5:33 pm, Felix wrote: > Mike Easter wrote: >> Hank Rogers wrote: >>> It's pretty easy to help new linux users. I just point them to the >>> man pages and say RTFM. They get the message instantly. >> >> Perhaps you are being sarcastic. Or perhaps you are pretending to be >> one of those unhelpful linux helpers MikeS mentioned. I see Win >> tracks in your header. >> >> In any case, while man pages are useful, the only person such flippant >> advice is useful is to someone who doesn't know that there are man pages. >> >> Most people seeking linux help need information provided in a more >> useful way than just what can be found in man pages, which are often >> found to be informative but suboptimal for an individual and specific >> question. > > where is the LM manual located? > Open a Command Window and type "Man" .... should work, Felix. -- Daniel70
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| From | Felix <none@not.here> |
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| Date | 2025-10-29 23:36 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <mmeg2rF30q9U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #188922 |
Daniel70 wrote: > On 29/10/2025 5:33 pm, Felix wrote: >> Mike Easter wrote: >>> Hank Rogers wrote: >>>> It's pretty easy to help new linux users. I just point them to the >>>> man pages and say RTFM. They get the message instantly. >>> >>> Perhaps you are being sarcastic. Or perhaps you are pretending to be >>> one of those unhelpful linux helpers MikeS mentioned. I see Win >>> tracks in your header. >>> >>> In any case, while man pages are useful, the only person such >>> flippant advice is useful is to someone who doesn't know that there >>> are man pages. >>> >>> Most people seeking linux help need information provided in a more >>> useful way than just what can be found in man pages, which are often >>> found to be informative but suboptimal for an individual and >>> specific question. >> >> where is the LM manual located? >> > Open a Command Window and type "Man" .... should work, Felix. I thought it would be a PDF to download or on a website. anyhow, I usually just google if I want to know something, or ask here -- Linux Mint 22.2 Q: What's the difference between Linux and Windows? A: You rule Linux, Microsoft Windows rules you
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> |
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| Date | 2025-10-30 00:42 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <10dt5jq$2ujl5$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #188924 |
On 29/10/2025 11:36 pm, Felix wrote: > Daniel70 wrote: >> On 29/10/2025 5:33 pm, Felix wrote: >>> Mike Easter wrote: >>>> Hank Rogers wrote: >>>>> It's pretty easy to help new linux users. I just point them to the >>>>> man pages and say RTFM. They get the message instantly. >>>> >>>> Perhaps you are being sarcastic. Or perhaps you are pretending to be >>>> one of those unhelpful linux helpers MikeS mentioned. I see Win >>>> tracks in your header. >>>> >>>> In any case, while man pages are useful, the only person such >>>> flippant advice is useful is to someone who doesn't know that there >>>> are man pages. >>>> >>>> Most people seeking linux help need information provided in a more >>>> useful way than just what can be found in man pages, which are often >>>> found to be informative but suboptimal for an individual and >>>> specific question. >>> >>> where is the LM manual located? >>> >> Open a Command Window and type "Man" .... should work, Felix. > > I thought it would be a PDF to download or on a website. anyhow, I > usually just google if I want to know something, or ask here > Asking for Linux advise on a Windows group might not be the smartest thing. Yes, I know there are some very savoy Linux users hereabouts .... but ....! On your News server account, try filtering for Newsgroups with 'Linux' in their names and see if there is one listed for the version of Linux you use. Else there is always alt.linux (not very active) or alt.os.linux (some activity). Or even, as this thread is being cross-posted into alt.os.linux.mint, that might be a good place to look if you use Mint. -- Daniel70
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| From | Felix <none@not.here> |
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| Date | 2025-10-30 01:05 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <mmel8iF3bqbU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #188934 |
Daniel70 wrote: > On 29/10/2025 11:36 pm, Felix wrote: >> Daniel70 wrote: >>> On 29/10/2025 5:33 pm, Felix wrote: >>>> Mike Easter wrote: >>>>> Hank Rogers wrote: >>>>>> It's pretty easy to help new linux users. I just point them to >>>>>> the man pages and say RTFM. They get the message instantly. >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps you are being sarcastic. Or perhaps you are pretending to >>>>> be one of those unhelpful linux helpers MikeS mentioned. I see >>>>> Win tracks in your header. >>>>> >>>>> In any case, while man pages are useful, the only person such >>>>> flippant advice is useful is to someone who doesn't know that >>>>> there are man pages. >>>>> >>>>> Most people seeking linux help need information provided in a more >>>>> useful way than just what can be found in man pages, which are >>>>> often found to be informative but suboptimal for an individual and >>>>> specific question. >>>> >>>> where is the LM manual located? >>>> >>> Open a Command Window and type "Man" .... should work, Felix. >> >> I thought it would be a PDF to download or on a website. anyhow, I >> usually just google if I want to know something, or ask here >> > Asking for Linux advise on a Windows group might not be the smartest > thing. Yes, I know there are some very savoy Linux users hereabouts > .... but ....! > > On your News server account, try filtering for Newsgroups with 'Linux' > in their names and see if there is one listed for the version of Linux > you use. > > Else there is always alt.linux (not very active) or alt.os.linux (some > activity). Or even, as this thread is being cross-posted into > alt.os.linux.mint, that might be a good place to look if you use Mint. I only post on alt.os.linux.mint -- Linux Mint 22.2 Q: What's the difference between Linux and Windows? A: You rule Linux, Microsoft Windows rules you
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| From | "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> |
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| Date | 2025-10-29 14:36 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10dt8q8$2ubi1$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #188937 |
On 2025/10/29 14:5:6, Felix wrote: > Daniel70 wrote: >> On 29/10/2025 11:36 pm, Felix wrote: >>> Daniel70 wrote: >>>> On 29/10/2025 5:33 pm, Felix wrote: >>>>> Mike Easter wrote: >>>>>> Hank Rogers wrote: >>>>>>> It's pretty easy to help new linux users. I just point them to >>>>>>> the man pages and say RTFM. They get the message instantly. Yes. The message, however, is "go back to Windows" - even if that wasn't what you intended :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> Perhaps you are being sarcastic. Or perhaps you are pretending to >>>>>> be one of those unhelpful linux helpers MikeS mentioned. I see >>>>>> Win tracks in your header. >>>>>> >>>>>> In any case, while man pages are useful, the only person such >>>>>> flippant advice is useful is to someone who doesn't know that >>>>>> there are man pages. Of whom there are, presumably, always some. As always, depends on the _level_ of [various things: intelligence, curiosity, time] possessed by the person asking. [] -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-29 11:29 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <10dtbsj$30n39$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #188937 |
On Wed, 10/29/2025 10:05 AM, Felix wrote: > Daniel70 wrote: >> On 29/10/2025 11:36 pm, Felix wrote: >>> Daniel70 wrote: >>>> On 29/10/2025 5:33 pm, Felix wrote: >>>>> Mike Easter wrote: >>>>>> Hank Rogers wrote: >>>>>>> It's pretty easy to help new linux users. I just point them to the man pages and say RTFM. They get the message instantly. >>>>>> >>>>>> Perhaps you are being sarcastic. Or perhaps you are pretending to be one of those unhelpful linux helpers MikeS mentioned. I see Win tracks in your header. >>>>>> >>>>>> In any case, while man pages are useful, the only person such flippant advice is useful is to someone who doesn't know that there are man pages. >>>>>> >>>>>> Most people seeking linux help need information provided in a more useful way than just what can be found in man pages, which are often found to be informative but suboptimal for an individual and specific question. >>>>> >>>>> where is the LM manual located? >>>>> >>>> Open a Command Window and type "Man" .... should work, Felix. >>> >>> I thought it would be a PDF to download or on a website. anyhow, I usually just google if I want to know something, or ask here >>> >> Asking for Linux advise on a Windows group might not be the smartest thing. Yes, I know there are some very savoy Linux users hereabouts .... but ....! >> >> On your News server account, try filtering for Newsgroups with 'Linux' in their names and see if there is one listed for the version of Linux you use. >> >> Else there is always alt.linux (not very active) or alt.os.linux (some activity). Or even, as this thread is being cross-posted into alt.os.linux.mint, that might be a good place to look if you use Mint. > > I only post on alt.os.linux.mint > For a Google, I use linux man listdir # "listdir" or "ls" is the equivalent of "dir" on Windows and there are a couple web sites that have the manual pages for Linux utilities of various sorts. The Kaspersky Rescue CD, a tool used for AV work on Windows, it uses Gentoo for its OS on the CD, and the Gentoo has all the manual pages stripped off to save space. Not all distros have manual pages, and if space or bandwidth is an issue, they can be removed. Just as some OSes you get, have had the "Games" folder removed. Some distros are known for the information they provide. The Arch Linux people have some general documentation which is good when you have a problem and need an overview. Gentoo has the Gentoo Handbook, which shows some things an aspiring Linux user should know. Like today, I chrooted into a Ubuntu and fixed it sorta. Some of the activities are reserved for "severely broken stuff", which everyone with a computer has seen at one time or another. Chrooting is like some of the offline repair commands in Windows. When you build Gentoo from scratch, there is one chroot session in there, undoubtedly included so a user would know how to do it later. You can mount some foreign OS tree, and the environment pretends you are actually booted and running from that tree. You can update packages in the foreign tree, although the tree is not running at the time as a "real OS". Paul
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-29 22:05 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10du32q$3845i$9@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #188942 |
On Wed, 29 Oct 2025 11:29:22 -0400, Paul wrote:
> and there are a couple web sites that have the manual pages for
> Linux utilities of various sorts.
<https://manpages.debian.org/> is one of the more comprehensive
collections.
> Some distros are known for the information they provide. The Arch
> Linux people have some general documentation which is good when you
> have a problem and need an overview.
Many’s the search that has led me to the Arch Linux Wiki
<https://wiki.archlinux.org/>, which has been very helpful, even if I
don’t use Arch.
> When you build Gentoo from scratch, there is one chroot session in
> there, undoubtedly included so a user would know how to do it later.
> You can mount some foreign OS tree, and the environment pretends you
> are actually booted and running from that tree. You can update
> packages in the foreign tree, although the tree is not running at
> the time as a "real OS".
I have successfully done this with Debian systems. It gets errors
trying to restart nonexistent service processes, but otherwise it
seems to work.
Tip: to minimize errors with inability to get info about the running
hardware and kernel, try to make the chroot look more like a “real”
system before entry with
for d in dev proc sys; do mount --bind /$d /«path-to-chroot»/$d; done
then enter with e.g.
chroot /«path-to-chroot» /bin/bash
then undo the bind mounts after exiting with
umount /«path-to-chroot»/{dev,proc,sys}
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-29 21:58 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10du2lq$3845i$8@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #188934 |
On Thu, 30 Oct 2025 00:42:19 +1100, Daniel70 wrote: > Yes, I know there are some very savoy Linux users hereabouts .... Burgundy or Lombardy, perhaps, rather than Savoy ...
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