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| Started by | "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> |
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| First post | 2025-10-27 08:14 -0400 |
| Last post | 2025-10-29 08:42 -0400 |
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DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-10-27 08:14 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-27 09:43 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-10-27 14:03 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-27 10:19 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-27 21:37 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-28 01:26 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-28 06:08 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-28 02:59 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Felix <none@not.here> - 2025-10-28 21:29 +1100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-10-28 11:17 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-28 23:11 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-10-29 13:36 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-29 21:37 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-29 19:52 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-10-28 13:14 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-10-27 13:54 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-27 10:12 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2025-10-27 15:01 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-27 21:35 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-27 19:06 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-27 23:10 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Felix <none@not.here> - 2025-10-28 12:20 +1100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-10-28 11:18 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Felix <none@not.here> - 2025-10-28 23:26 +1100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2025-10-28 13:10 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Felix <none@not.here> - 2025-10-29 00:21 +1100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-28 23:14 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-10-29 13:43 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Handsome Jack <jack@handsome.com> - 2025-10-29 14:13 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-29 11:16 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-29 21:42 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-29 20:02 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2025-10-30 15:32 +0200
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-30 21:11 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2025-10-29 15:00 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-29 12:24 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-29 21:41 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-29 20:12 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2025-10-30 10:10 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-29 21:39 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-29 20:37 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-10-28 13:23 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Windows Devil <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-27 14:00 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-27 11:16 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Monsieur <Monsieur@notreal.invalid> - 2025-10-27 18:19 +0100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Felix <none@not.here> - 2025-10-28 11:31 +1100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-27 21:34 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-10-28 13:35 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-27 21:32 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-10-28 22:09 +1100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-10-28 11:27 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2025-10-28 16:27 -0700
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-10-29 19:57 +0100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-29 21:44 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Felix <none@not.here> - 2025-10-30 10:32 +1100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-10-30 15:30 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-10-30 15:22 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-10-30 16:59 +0100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-30 14:33 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-10-31 13:58 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-10-31 19:48 +0100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-10-31 20:20 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-11-01 13:53 +0100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-31 18:55 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:29 +0100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-11-01 05:59 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:33 +0100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-11-01 09:50 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-11-01 16:11 +0100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-01 20:26 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-11-01 17:00 -0500
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Felix <none@not.here> - 2025-10-31 11:28 +1100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-31 08:23 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Felix <none@not.here> - 2025-10-31 23:37 +1100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-10-31 19:52 +0100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-10-31 20:20 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2025-10-31 13:57 -0700
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 23:02 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-11-01 16:10 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2025-11-01 11:01 -0700
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2025-11-01 12:00 -0700
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-01 19:40 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:44 -0700
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Sump <sumpusent@outlook.com> - 2025-11-01 23:00 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2025-11-01 17:07 -0700
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-11-02 14:21 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-02 01:17 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-11-02 14:07 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2025-11-01 02:28 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-11-01 16:19 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 23:00 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 22:59 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-11-01 16:41 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-10-31 14:53 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Felix <none@not.here> - 2025-11-01 10:21 +1100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Stan Brown <someone@example.com> - 2025-10-27 09:14 -0700
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-27 13:17 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-10-27 13:58 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-10-27 18:38 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-10-27 18:43 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-10-29 22:00 +1100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-10-29 14:03 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-10-30 19:54 +1100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-30 21:18 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-29 21:48 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2025-10-29 11:50 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Felix <none@not.here> - 2025-10-29 23:31 +1100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Felix <none@not.here> - 2025-10-29 23:42 +1100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-29 08:50 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2025-10-29 20:34 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-29 21:20 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-30 08:25 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-30 14:41 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-31 09:04 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2025-10-28 16:40 -0700
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> - 2025-10-27 20:47 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-27 21:18 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Felix <none@not.here> - 2025-10-28 12:10 +1100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-10-28 13:44 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Felix <none@not.here> - 2025-10-29 10:27 +1100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-28 02:09 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Handsome Jack <jack@handsome.com> - 2025-10-28 07:13 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-28 05:06 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-10-28 11:59 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-10-29 23:13 +1100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-29 08:58 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-10-30 00:32 +1100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-10-29 22:55 +1100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2025-10-28 16:46 -0700
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-10-28 20:03 -0500
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2025-10-28 19:10 -0700
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Felix <none@not.here> - 2025-10-29 17:33 +1100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-10-29 23:18 +1100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Felix <none@not.here> - 2025-10-29 23:36 +1100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-10-30 00:42 +1100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Felix <none@not.here> - 2025-10-30 01:05 +1100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-10-29 14:36 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-29 11:29 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-29 22:05 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-29 21:58 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-10-30 07:26 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-30 21:46 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-29 21:57 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-30 08:45 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2025-10-30 10:28 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-30 11:01 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2025-10-30 13:13 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-30 14:35 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-30 13:51 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-30 21:45 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2025-10-30 22:58 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-31 08:43 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-30 21:33 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-30 21:27 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> - 2025-10-30 10:16 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-30 14:04 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-30 21:20 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-30 21:19 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-30 18:34 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-30 23:09 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2025-10-29 20:28 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-10-30 17:01 +0100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-30 14:19 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:42 +0100
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-10-29 11:31 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> - 2025-10-29 13:12 +0000
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-29 12:13 -0400
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2025-10-28 19:55 -0700
Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linux users Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-29 08:42 -0400
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-27 23:10 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10dou5d$19rih$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #188859 |
On Mon, 27 Oct 2025 19:06:46 -0400, Paul wrote: > On Mon, 10/27/2025 5:35 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >> >> On Mon, 27 Oct 2025 13:54:41 +0000, J. P. Gilliver wrote: >> >>> On 2025/10/27 12:14:46, Alan K. wrote: >>>> >>> "With Linux, almost every application you are going to run is >>> provided by your distribution. … Windows and macOS users are >>> accustomed to browsing the web, looking for applications, clicking >>> a download link, and running an installer. With Linux we skip all >>> of that. We can open the software centre (or "app store") and find >>> just about anything we need." >>> >>> Sounds very Mac- (or modern-Windows-)like to me. >> >> Neither Apple nor Microsoft can offer such a high degree of >> integrated package management. Apple has an app store for its >> mobile platforms, not so much for actual Macintosh PCs. Microsoft >> tried to create an app store for Windows, but so far, from what I >> hear, it’s a barren desert. >> > The OS is a thousand packages in Windows, and when a Cumulative > patch comes in, the scanner goes through the OS, and matches things > needing patches, with the specific patch. That only applies to the OS. Remember, on Linux distros, the package management applies to *everything* -- there are packages for apps, for libraries, for fonts, for localization, for icons, for SDKs -- all managed through a common uniform architecture that handles dependencies and versioning and ensuring that updates keep everything compatible. And seamlessly accepts third-party package repositories, too. Microsoft and Apple have nothing like that.
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| From | Felix <none@not.here> |
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| Date | 2025-10-28 12:20 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <mmak39Fd7qlU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #188853 |
Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > On Mon, 27 Oct 2025 13:54:41 +0000, J. P. Gilliver wrote: > >> On 2025/10/27 12:14:46, Alan K. wrote: >> "With Linux, almost every application you are going to run is >> provided by your distribution. … Windows and macOS users are >> accustomed to browsing the web, looking for applications, clicking a >> download link, and running an installer. With Linux we skip all of >> that. We can open the software centre (or "app store") and find just >> about anything we need." >> >> Sounds very Mac- (or modern-Windows-)like to me. > Neither Apple nor Microsoft can offer such a high degree of integrated > package management. Apple has an app store for its mobile platforms, > not so much for actual Macintosh PCs. Microsoft tried to create an app > store for Windows, but so far, from what I hear, it’s a barren desert. Linux makes upgrades/updates so much easier. no need to stuff around with third party apps. another reason I love it. -- Linux Mint 22.2 Q: What's the difference between Linux and Windows? A: You rule Linux, Microsoft Windows rules you
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| From | "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> |
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| Date | 2025-10-28 11:18 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10dq8ql$1fiiq$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #188865 |
On 2025/10/28 1:20:41, Felix wrote: > Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >> On Mon, 27 Oct 2025 13:54:41 +0000, J. P. Gilliver wrote: >> >>> On 2025/10/27 12:14:46, Alan K. wrote: >>> "With Linux, almost every application you are going to run is >>> provided by your distribution. … Windows and macOS users are >>> accustomed to browsing the web, looking for applications, clicking a >>> download link, and running an installer. With Linux we skip all of >>> that. We can open the software centre (or "app store") and find just >>> about anything we need." >>> >>> Sounds very Mac- (or modern-Windows-)like to me. >> Neither Apple nor Microsoft can offer such a high degree of integrated >> package management. Apple has an app store for its mobile platforms, >> not so much for actual Macintosh PCs. Microsoft tried to create an app >> store for Windows, but so far, from what I hear, it’s a barren desert. > > Linux makes upgrades/updates so much easier. no need to stuff around > with third party apps. another reason I love it. > That sounds very like the walled garden - what if I should _want_ to "stuff around" with a third part "app"? -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "He hasn't one redeeming vice." - Oscar Wilde
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| From | Felix <none@not.here> |
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| Date | 2025-10-28 23:26 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <mmbr3rFjttfU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #188884 |
J. P. Gilliver wrote: > On 2025/10/28 1:20:41, Felix wrote: >> Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >>> On Mon, 27 Oct 2025 13:54:41 +0000, J. P. Gilliver wrote: >>> >>>> On 2025/10/27 12:14:46, Alan K. wrote: >>>> "With Linux, almost every application you are going to run is >>>> provided by your distribution. … Windows and macOS users are >>>> accustomed to browsing the web, looking for applications, clicking a >>>> download link, and running an installer. With Linux we skip all of >>>> that. We can open the software centre (or "app store") and find just >>>> about anything we need." >>>> >>>> Sounds very Mac- (or modern-Windows-)like to me. >>> Neither Apple nor Microsoft can offer such a high degree of integrated >>> package management. Apple has an app store for its mobile platforms, >>> not so much for actual Macintosh PCs. Microsoft tried to create an app >>> store for Windows, but so far, from what I hear, it’s a barren desert. >> Linux makes upgrades/updates so much easier. no need to stuff around >> with third party apps. another reason I love it. >> > That sounds very like the walled garden - what if I should _want_ to > "stuff around" with a third part "app"? > > you can do what you like. I'm just saying what I like -- Linux Mint 22.2 Q: What's the difference between Linux and Windows? A: You rule Linux, Microsoft Windows rules you
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| From | Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> |
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| Date | 2025-10-28 13:10 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrn10g1g62.286.dan@djph.net> |
| In reply to | #188884 |
On 2025-10-28, J. P. Gilliver wrote: > On 2025/10/28 1:20:41, Felix wrote: >> Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >>> On Mon, 27 Oct 2025 13:54:41 +0000, J. P. Gilliver wrote: >>> >>>> On 2025/10/27 12:14:46, Alan K. wrote: >>>> "With Linux, almost every application you are going to run is >>>> provided by your distribution. … Windows and macOS users are >>>> accustomed to browsing the web, looking for applications, clicking a >>>> download link, and running an installer. With Linux we skip all of >>>> that. We can open the software centre (or "app store") and find just >>>> about anything we need." >>>> >>>> Sounds very Mac- (or modern-Windows-)like to me. >>> Neither Apple nor Microsoft can offer such a high degree of integrated >>> package management. Apple has an app store for its mobile platforms, >>> not so much for actual Macintosh PCs. Microsoft tried to create an app >>> store for Windows, but so far, from what I hear, it’s a barren desert. >> >> Linux makes upgrades/updates so much easier. no need to stuff around >> with third party apps. another reason I love it. >> > That sounds very like the walled garden - what if I should _want_ to > "stuff around" with a third part "app"? Then do so. The closest parallel I can think of is Steam. They are pretty much *the* platform if you want to purchase a game; but it's not like they prevent you from installing some indie game off the dev's (not-steam) website; or using some other store service. It's just that if you do that, getting game patches and such are on you, rather than being automated by the Steam client. Same deal with your distro's repositories for the most part; though when you leave the "curated sources", you will sometimes run into compatibility issues akin to about 2 decades ago in Windows-Land with supported software version / windows version charts: - Windows 9x/NT/2000 (up to version 2.5) - Windows ME - Windows XP (starting in version 3.0) -- |_|O|_| |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert |O|O|O| PGP: DDAB 23FB 19FA 7D85 1CC1 E067 6D65 70E5 4CE7 2860
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| From | Felix <none@not.here> |
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| Date | 2025-10-29 00:21 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <mmbubfFkdqaU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #188891 |
Dan Purgert wrote: > On 2025-10-28, J. P. Gilliver wrote: >> On 2025/10/28 1:20:41, Felix wrote: >>> Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >>>> On Mon, 27 Oct 2025 13:54:41 +0000, J. P. Gilliver wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2025/10/27 12:14:46, Alan K. wrote: >>>>> "With Linux, almost every application you are going to run is >>>>> provided by your distribution. … Windows and macOS users are >>>>> accustomed to browsing the web, looking for applications, clicking a >>>>> download link, and running an installer. With Linux we skip all of >>>>> that. We can open the software centre (or "app store") and find just >>>>> about anything we need." >>>>> >>>>> Sounds very Mac- (or modern-Windows-)like to me. >>>> Neither Apple nor Microsoft can offer such a high degree of integrated >>>> package management. Apple has an app store for its mobile platforms, >>>> not so much for actual Macintosh PCs. Microsoft tried to create an app >>>> store for Windows, but so far, from what I hear, it’s a barren desert. >>> Linux makes upgrades/updates so much easier. no need to stuff around >>> with third party apps. another reason I love it. >>> >> That sounds very like the walled garden - what if I should _want_ to >> "stuff around" with a third part "app"? > Then do so. > > The closest parallel I can think of is Steam. They are pretty much > *the* platform if you want to purchase a game; but it's not like they > prevent you from installing some indie game off the dev's (not-steam) > website; or using some other store service. It's just that if you do > that, getting game patches and such are on you, rather than being > automated by the Steam client. I've installed Steam via the Software Manager and it's running all games perfectly no issues > > Same deal with your distro's repositories for the most part; though when > you leave the "curated sources", you will sometimes run into > compatibility issues akin to about 2 decades ago in Windows-Land with > supported software version / windows version charts: > > - Windows 9x/NT/2000 (up to version 2.5) > - Windows ME > - Windows XP (starting in version 3.0) > > -- Linux Mint 22.2 Q: What's the difference between Linux and Windows? A: You rule Linux, Microsoft Windows rules you
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-28 23:14 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10driod$2gftl$7@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #188884 |
On Tue, 28 Oct 2025 11:18:45 +0000, J. P. Gilliver wrote: > On 2025/10/28 1:20:41, Felix wrote: >> >> Linux makes upgrades/updates so much easier. no need to stuff >> around with third party apps. another reason I love it. >> > That sounds very like the walled garden - what if I should _want_ to > "stuff around" with a third part "app"? You have the choice. You can download things and build from source. Quite often you will find that somebody else has done the work, and offers a third-party repository that hooks into the standard package-management system so you can install from there as easily as you can from the standard distro repos. There are distros -- like Gentoo -- where *everything* on your system is built by you, from source.
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| From | "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> |
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| Date | 2025-10-29 13:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10dt5lg$2ub8k$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #188905 |
On 2025/10/28 23:14:21, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > On Tue, 28 Oct 2025 11:18:45 +0000, J. P. Gilliver wrote: > >> On 2025/10/28 1:20:41, Felix wrote: >>> >>> Linux makes upgrades/updates so much easier. no need to stuff >>> around with third party apps. another reason I love it. >>> >> That sounds very like the walled garden - what if I should _want_ to >> "stuff around" with a third part "app"? > > You have the choice. You can download things and build from source. That seems to crop up more often than I'd expect. I don't think I've _ever_ had to "build from source" for Windows things (granted, I'm not usually offered the _opportunity_, except things on github). > Quite often you will find that somebody else has done the work, and > offers a third-party repository that hooks into the standard > package-management system so you can install from there as easily as > you can from the standard distro repos. So, basically, like Windows - just you have to stick with the chosen flavour, or spend a lot of time managing. > > There are distros -- like Gentoo -- where *everything* on your system > is built by you, from source. Thirty or forty years ago, I might have liked that opportunity. Now, I CBA. Not necessarily proud of that, but am certainly not alone (possibly even in the majority, though not here). -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf I admire him for the constancy of his curiosity, his effortless sense of authority and his ability to deliver good science without gimmicks. - Michael Palin on Sir David Attenborough, RT 2016/5/7-13
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| From | Handsome Jack <jack@handsome.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-29 14:13 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10dt7eb$2v2tg$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #188935 |
On Wed, 29 Oct 2025 13:43:09 +0000, J. P. Gilliver wrote: > On 2025/10/28 23:14:21, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >> You have the choice. You can download things and build from source. > > That seems to crop up more often than I'd expect. I don't think I've > _ever_ had to "build from source" for Windows things (granted, I'm not > usually offered the _opportunity_, except things on github). > >> Quite often you will find that somebody else has done the work, and >> offers a third-party repository that hooks into the standard >> package-management system so you can install from there as easily as >> you can from the standard distro repos. > > So, basically, like Windows - just you have to stick with the chosen > flavour, or spend a lot of time managing. > > >> There are distros -- like Gentoo -- where *everything* on your system >> is built by you, from source. > Thirty or forty years ago, I might have liked that opportunity. Now, I > CBA. Not necessarily proud of that, but am certainly not alone (possibly > even in the majority, though not here). Quite apart from the fact that 99% of computer users wouldn't even know what "build from source" means, let alone how to do it. I must admit I was a bit flabbergasted when one of my first help questions to a Linux forum came back with that as a feasible solution.
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-29 11:16 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <10dtb4s$30des$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #188938 |
On Wed, 10/29/2025 10:13 AM, Handsome Jack wrote: > > Quite apart from the fact that 99% of computer users wouldn't even know > what "build from source" means, let alone how to do it. I must admit I was > a bit flabbergasted when one of my first help questions to a Linux forum > came back with that as a feasible solution. > Linux comes with things like "build-essential", which is a toolkit that handles all sorts of odd-jobs that arise in Linux. Say you had gcc, g++, make, then you could compile a thing that came to hand, from source. Windows provides something that is getting more similar, in that Visual Studio Community Edition gets all sorts of capabilities bolted to it. While it does not emphasize the same programming languages, some of the intent is similar. I've compiled a few things, using VS on a different OS partition, with my own hand-hewn include and lib paths. Compiling stuff is like warm beer, it's an acquired taste. I've been doing it, on and off, for a long time. I built this from source, in the era. 1993. Since I had no FOSS tree on my UNIX box, it took 40 hours of work, to build this from source. Precisely when I was finished, the IT department phoned and took it away from me, and into the garbage it went. That's because the license terms are "no commercial usage" and I was in violation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCSA_Mosaic I went back to using Lynx on the UNIX box. That's how you punish the UNIX users. Lynx is the one on the left, which is an obvious good time. Some of the text lines on the page on the left, can be repeated four times, if you didn't get the memo the first time. It's the browser equivalent of vegemite. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynx_%28web_browser%29#/media/File:Lynx_vs._Firefox_rendering.png I used Lynx mainly for downloading chip datasheets, so I was mostly using the download feature on it. Like a poor mans "wget". Some pages were so poorly rendered, they were virtually unreadable as story material. Not exactly a tool for entertainment. Paul
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-29 21:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10du1nq$3845i$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #188941 |
On Wed, 29 Oct 2025 11:16:43 -0400, Paul wrote: > I used Lynx mainly for downloading chip datasheets, so I was mostly > using the download feature on it. Like a poor mans "wget". Couldn’t you afford wget?!?
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-29 20:02 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <10du9u6$3at62$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #188958 |
On Wed, 10/29/2025 5:42 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > On Wed, 29 Oct 2025 11:16:43 -0400, Paul wrote: > >> I used Lynx mainly for downloading chip datasheets, so I was mostly >> using the download feature on it. Like a poor mans "wget". > > Couldn’t you afford wget?!? > I think wget was invented some time after Lynx came out. All I can remember now, is that I was pissed I was sitting at a rather expensive computer, and I couldn't have a knife fork and spoon and had to eat with my hands all the time. The desktop was a desert on my UNIX box. I used to use xvnews on that box, for USENET (reading only, no posting). I used to read sunmanagers on it. The USENET program was *unthreaded*, and you haven't lived until you have received a pile of postings every day... in seeming random order and unsorted. The other beauty of the newsreader I used, was that it had to be compiled from source, and the program had a static constant for the number of newsgroups it could handle at any one time. When it was compiled for 5000 newsgroups in the .newsrc, I had to recompile it and set the static constant to 10000 newsgroups. That's what I mean about the knife fork and spoon bit -- everything you did on the platform required pissing around. Today, we worry about the color of our titlebar. In the old days, your main concern was that the program didn't segfault :-) On average, we seem to have progressed a bit. Paul
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| From | Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> |
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| Date | 2025-10-30 15:32 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <sm0ldks7bwk.fsf@lakka.kapsi.fi> |
| In reply to | #188941 |
Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> writes: > Linux comes with things like "build-essential", which is > a toolkit that handles all sorts of odd-jobs that arise > in Linux. Say you had gcc, g++, make, then you could > compile a thing that came to hand, from source. I suppose the corresponding thing in Windows is the little C# compiler that comes bundled with the .net framework(s), e.g. c:\windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v3.5\csc.exe. I remember I used that to build some simple utility thing for myself, in a job with draconian rules about installing software... Don't remember what it was though.
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-30 21:11 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10e0kau$n2t$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #188992 |
On Thu, 30 Oct 2025 15:32:43 +0200, Anssi Saari wrote: > Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> writes: > >> Linux comes with things like "build-essential", which is >> a toolkit that handles all sorts of odd-jobs that arise >> in Linux. Say you had gcc, g++, make, then you could >> compile a thing that came to hand, from source. > > I suppose the corresponding thing in Windows is the little C# compiler > that comes bundled with the .net framework(s), e.g. > c:\windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v3.5\csc.exe. Is a C♯ compiler sufficient for building everything in Windows?
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| From | Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> |
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| Date | 2025-10-29 15:00 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrn10g4b1a.286.dan@djph.net> |
| In reply to | #188935 |
On 2025-10-29, J. P. Gilliver wrote: > On 2025/10/28 23:14:21, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >> On Tue, 28 Oct 2025 11:18:45 +0000, J. P. Gilliver wrote: >> >>> On 2025/10/28 1:20:41, Felix wrote: >>>> >>>> Linux makes upgrades/updates so much easier. no need to stuff >>>> around with third party apps. another reason I love it. >>>> >>> That sounds very like the walled garden - what if I should _want_ to >>> "stuff around" with a third part "app"? >> >> You have the choice. You can download things and build from source. > > That seems to crop up more often than I'd expect. I don't think I've > _ever_ had to "build from source" for Windows things (granted, I'm not > usually offered the _opportunity_, except things on github). Kind of just a difference of paradigm really (and a dearth of compilers on windows). It really has fallen to the wayside though -- most developers will package for the major distros already, or provide a distro-agnostic solution, such as AppImage. -- |_|O|_| |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert |O|O|O| PGP: DDAB 23FB 19FA 7D85 1CC1 E067 6D65 70E5 4CE7 2860
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-29 12:24 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <10dtf34$31tv3$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #188940 |
On Wed, 10/29/2025 11:00 AM, Dan Purgert wrote: > On 2025-10-29, J. P. Gilliver wrote: >> On 2025/10/28 23:14:21, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >>> On Tue, 28 Oct 2025 11:18:45 +0000, J. P. Gilliver wrote: >>> >>>> On 2025/10/28 1:20:41, Felix wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Linux makes upgrades/updates so much easier. no need to stuff >>>>> around with third party apps. another reason I love it. >>>>> >>>> That sounds very like the walled garden - what if I should _want_ to >>>> "stuff around" with a third part "app"? >>> >>> You have the choice. You can download things and build from source. >> >> That seems to crop up more often than I'd expect. I don't think I've >> _ever_ had to "build from source" for Windows things (granted, I'm not >> usually offered the _opportunity_, except things on github). > > Kind of just a difference of paradigm really (and a dearth of compilers > on windows). > > It really has fallen to the wayside though -- most developers will > package for the major distros already, or provide a distro-agnostic > solution, such as AppImage. > We gots the compilers :-) I use MinGW32, because it works most of the time. The MinGW64 (done by more than one group different than the original), a few of those are full of brokenness. Windows has Visual Studio Community Edition. That has a compiler and linker. And it has had a few more toys added to it, to make it easier to "pull" projects into it. A third way I build things, is Ubuntu has some cross-compile entries in the package tree, and you can make some.exe over on Ubuntu, as a PE32+ program, bring it over to your Windows machine and it runs. But that's not particularly set up for large projects. You can have Ubuntu in bash shell on Windows if you want, but when I do those, the Ubuntu would be on a second computer. Paul
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-29 21:41 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10du1le$3845i$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #188944 |
On Wed, 29 Oct 2025 12:24:03 -0400, Paul wrote: > Windows has Visual Studio Community Edition. Aka “Crippleware Edition”.
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-29 20:12 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <10duaht$3b22i$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #188957 |
On Wed, 10/29/2025 5:41 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Oct 2025 12:24:03 -0400, Paul wrote:
>
>> Windows has Visual Studio Community Edition.
>
> Aka “Crippleware Edition”.
>
All you want from that, is the compiler and linker.
That is sufficient to do things like build Firefox.
For headers, you install an SDK, as that has
support for C headers and so on.
I have a second boot OS on this drive, which is
specifically for Visual Studio Community Edition.
Although I can run the compiler and linker from this
OS, using a script with all the necessary paths defined
in it.
A setup like that, is for situations where you have
a .proj file and a project you want to build, was
built on that platform. Then it's a natural fit to
load something into it. I've only written my own
code over there a couple of times. For my normal
programming needs ("60 line programs"), MinGW32 is
good enough for that. I find a couple stanzas of code
on the web, write some glue to join them together,
and have a little utility for myself. They
don't call me Printf Paul for nothing. Every second
statement is a printf(). Good times.
Paul
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| From | Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> |
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| Date | 2025-10-30 10:10 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrn10g6edg.286.dan@djph.net> |
| In reply to | #188944 |
On 2025-10-29, Paul wrote: > On Wed, 10/29/2025 11:00 AM, Dan Purgert wrote: >> On 2025-10-29, J. P. Gilliver wrote: >>> On 2025/10/28 23:14:21, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >>>> On Tue, 28 Oct 2025 11:18:45 +0000, J. P. Gilliver wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2025/10/28 1:20:41, Felix wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Linux makes upgrades/updates so much easier. no need to stuff >>>>>> around with third party apps. another reason I love it. >>>>>> >>>>> That sounds very like the walled garden - what if I should _want_ to >>>>> "stuff around" with a third part "app"? >>>> >>>> You have the choice. You can download things and build from source. >>> >>> That seems to crop up more often than I'd expect. I don't think I've >>> _ever_ had to "build from source" for Windows things (granted, I'm not >>> usually offered the _opportunity_, except things on github). >> >> Kind of just a difference of paradigm really (and a dearth of compilers >> on windows). >> >> It really has fallen to the wayside though -- most developers will >> package for the major distros already, or provide a distro-agnostic >> solution, such as AppImage. >> > > We gots the compilers :-) ... now. But having things "now" doesn't really refute the causes of the different approaches in the past. -- |_|O|_| |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert |O|O|O| PGP: DDAB 23FB 19FA 7D85 1CC1 E067 6D65 70E5 4CE7 2860
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-29 21:39 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10du1je$3845i$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #188935 |
On Wed, 29 Oct 2025 13:43:09 +0000, J. P. Gilliver wrote: > On 2025/10/28 23:14:21, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >> >> You have the choice. You can download things and build from source. > > That seems to crop up more often than I'd expect. I don't think I've > _ever_ had to "build from source" for Windows things ... Windows doesn’t make it easy, or even reliable. Which is why the (mis)conception is widespread that you need a PhD in CompSci, or something like that, to do it on Linux. >> Quite often you will find that somebody else has done the work, and >> offers a third-party repository that hooks into the standard >> package-management system so you can install from there as easily as >> you can from the standard distro repos. > > So, basically, like Windows - just you have to stick with the chosen > flavour, or spend a lot of time managing. On Linux, you get that with OS-level tools as well. Remember, the entire stack, from top to bottom, is open source. Imagine getting different user-generated “spins” of Windows, preconfigured to use less RAM, leave out annoying features, that kind of thing ... only Microsoft would never allow it.
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