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| Started by | Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> |
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| First post | 2025-08-01 16:11 +0200 |
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Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-01 16:11 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-08-01 10:28 -0400
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-01 18:19 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-01 12:33 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-08-01 13:49 -0400
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-01 21:11 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection NY <me@privacy.net> - 2025-08-02 16:29 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-02 18:26 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-01 20:45 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-02 15:58 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-02 16:35 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-08-01 16:43 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-01 20:47 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-01 09:02 -0700
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-01 09:13 -0700
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-01 18:41 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-01 20:49 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-01 12:06 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-01 20:54 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-01 15:26 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Michael Logies <logies@t-online.de> - 2025-08-06 15:58 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-06 18:41 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-06 12:35 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-01 17:32 -0700
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Philip Herlihy <nothing@invalid.com> - 2025-08-02 12:15 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-02 15:57 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-02 15:46 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-02 17:30 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-02 18:32 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-02 19:53 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-02 17:53 -0400
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-03 19:43 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-08-03 20:41 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-04 11:55 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-08-04 23:22 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-05 20:24 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-04 12:57 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-03 23:10 -0700
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-04 15:37 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-02 15:54 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-02 16:40 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-02 19:56 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-03 20:36 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-03 18:11 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-04 11:34 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-04 14:06 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-06 08:59 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Philip Herlihy <nothing@invalid.com> - 2025-08-03 21:07 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-04 11:24 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Philip Herlihy <nothing@invalid.com> - 2025-08-04 10:50 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-06 09:01 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Philip Herlihy <nothing@invalid.com> - 2025-08-07 11:39 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-07 15:19 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Zaidy036 <Zaidy036@air.isp.spam> - 2025-08-04 16:25 -0400
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-06 09:03 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2025-08-06 20:55 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2025-08-06 21:00 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-07 15:22 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-07 15:20 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Philip Herlihy <nothing@invalid.com> - 2025-08-08 11:44 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-09 12:59 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-09 13:17 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-10 18:01 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-10 18:12 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-10 19:33 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-10 19:08 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-11 09:46 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-11 14:07 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-11 08:19 -0500
OT: Microsoft product (and service) naming (was: Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-11 14:36 +0100
Re: OT: Microsoft product (and service) naming "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-20 11:06 +0200
Re: OT: Microsoft product (and service) naming "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-10-20 10:48 +0100
Re: OT: Microsoft product (and service) naming "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-20 13:36 +0200
Re: OT: Microsoft product (and service) naming Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-10-20 12:36 +0000
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-10 19:57 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-10 20:42 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-11 09:44 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-11 14:09 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-11 08:53 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-11 15:53 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-11 13:03 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-11 19:31 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-11 21:11 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-12 02:00 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-13 21:21 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> - 2025-10-19 23:36 -0700
OT: ageing (was: Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-10-20 08:45 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-11 20:20 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-08-12 12:35 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-12 14:16 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-08-12 21:11 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-12 17:24 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-08-13 05:10 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-12 15:29 -0400
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Michael Logies <logies@t-online.de> - 2025-08-11 22:40 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-11 21:06 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-11 20:35 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-12 09:01 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-12 13:23 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-13 03:45 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-13 21:28 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-13 17:09 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-14 13:27 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-11 21:03 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-11 20:39 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection rsutton <rsutton43@comcast.net> - 2025-08-12 07:49 -0400
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection wasbit <wasbit@REMOVEhotmail.com> - 2025-08-13 09:26 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-13 11:39 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-13 12:13 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-13 18:33 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-13 12:52 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection rsutton <rsutton43@comcast.net> - 2025-08-14 08:22 -0400
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-14 16:00 +0200
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| From | Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> |
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| Date | 2025-08-02 16:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mf6ma7F98dlU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #186429 |
On 01/08/2025 16:11, Fokke Nauta wrote: > Hi all, > > At home I have my own W10 pc and two other W10 pc's and two W11 laptops. > To have a remote connection with the other pc's and laptops I use > RealVNC Viewer. U used it for years, but since last year I have to pay > for it (about 250 euro's per year). It's limited for just a few > connections. I'm not happy with it. It's too expensive, and sometimes it > can't make a connection. > Can you advice me an alternative that is cheaper and works well? > Many thanks in advance. > > With kind regards, > Fokke Nauta Thanks for your suggestions. I installed TightVNC. It worked well for the other pc's, but not for the wifi laptops. It asked for a password which I didn't know. I filled in the password for the user of the laptop but that didn't work. I uninstalled it. I installed UltraVNC. It didn't work. It is asking for a password. Onve again I filled in the password for the user of the laptop but that didn't work. I installed a password in the server, but filling this in in the viewer didn't work as well. So I unstalled this as well. So - I haven't got a clue. Fokke
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| From | VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> |
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| Date | 2025-08-02 19:56 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <o78tmld4q1m.dlg@v.nguard.lh> |
| In reply to | #186476 |
Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:
> On 01/08/2025 16:11, Fokke Nauta wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> At home I have my own W10 pc and two other W10 pc's and two W11 laptops.
>> To have a remote connection with the other pc's and laptops I use
>> RealVNC Viewer. U used it for years, but since last year I have to pay
>> for it (about 250 euro's per year). It's limited for just a few
>> connections. I'm not happy with it. It's too expensive, and sometimes it
>> can't make a connection.
>> Can you advice me an alternative that is cheaper and works well?
>> Many thanks in advance.
>>
>> With kind regards,
>> Fokke Nauta
>
> Thanks for your suggestions.
> I installed TightVNC. It worked well for the other pc's, but not for the
> wifi laptops. It asked for a password which I didn't know. I filled in
> the password for the user of the laptop but that didn't work.
> I uninstalled it.
> I installed UltraVNC. It didn't work. It is asking for a password. Onve
> again I filled in the password for the user of the laptop but that
> didn't work. I installed a password in the server, but filling this in
> in the viewer didn't work as well. So I unstalled this as well.
>
> So - I haven't got a clue.
>
> Fokke
The VNC clients connect to a VNC server. You have a VNC client
installed on the remote host, and a VNC server on the local host. For
example, you'd have a VNC client on host-A, and a VNC server on host-B.
When you connect the client to the server, the client needs to specify
the login password at the server.
https://www.tightvnc.com/doc/win/TightVNC_for_Windows-Installation_and_Getting_Started.pdf
Installation
Register TightVNC Server as a system service (recommended)
By default, TightVNC Server is installed as a Windows service and
starts immediately after installation. At the end of the
installation you will be asked about passwords for TightVNC
Server as a service, in order to protect it from unauthorized
access.
You SHOULD use a password at the server to ensure that intruders don't
get access to your host running the VNC server.
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| From | Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> |
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| Date | 2025-08-03 20:36 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mf9oi7Fp0bfU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #186497 |
On 03/08/2025 02:56, VanguardLH wrote: > Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote: > >> On 01/08/2025 16:11, Fokke Nauta wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> At home I have my own W10 pc and two other W10 pc's and two W11 laptops. >>> To have a remote connection with the other pc's and laptops I use >>> RealVNC Viewer. U used it for years, but since last year I have to pay >>> for it (about 250 euro's per year). It's limited for just a few >>> connections. I'm not happy with it. It's too expensive, and sometimes it >>> can't make a connection. >>> Can you advice me an alternative that is cheaper and works well? >>> Many thanks in advance. >>> >>> With kind regards, >>> Fokke Nauta >> >> Thanks for your suggestions. >> I installed TightVNC. It worked well for the other pc's, but not for the >> wifi laptops. It asked for a password which I didn't know. I filled in >> the password for the user of the laptop but that didn't work. >> I uninstalled it. >> I installed UltraVNC. It didn't work. It is asking for a password. Onve >> again I filled in the password for the user of the laptop but that >> didn't work. I installed a password in the server, but filling this in >> in the viewer didn't work as well. So I unstalled this as well. >> >> So - I haven't got a clue. >> >> Fokke > > The VNC clients connect to a VNC server. You have a VNC client > installed on the remote host, and a VNC server on the local host. For > example, you'd have a VNC client on host-A, and a VNC server on host-B. > When you connect the client to the server, the client needs to specify > the login password at the server. I know that. You can choose to not using passwords. As this is all in our home, I choosed for that. > https://www.tightvnc.com/doc/win/TightVNC_for_Windows-Installation_and_Getting_Started.pdf > Installation > Register TightVNC Server as a system service (recommended) Ofcourse I did. > By default, TightVNC Server is installed as a Windows service and > starts immediately after installation. At the end of the > installation you will be asked about passwords for TightVNC > Server as a service, in order to protect it from unauthorized > access. I choosed for not using passwords. > You SHOULD use a password at the server to ensure that intruders don't > get access to your host running the VNC server. We don't have intruders in our home. Fokke
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| From | VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> |
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| Date | 2025-08-03 18:11 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <mcz8fbdd3ilg$.dlg@v.nguard.lh> |
| In reply to | #186512 |
Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote: > On 03/08/2025 02:56, VanguardLH wrote: >> Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote: >> >>> On 01/08/2025 16:11, Fokke Nauta wrote: >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> At home I have my own W10 pc and two other W10 pc's and two W11 laptops. >>>> To have a remote connection with the other pc's and laptops I use >>>> RealVNC Viewer. U used it for years, but since last year I have to pay >>>> for it (about 250 euro's per year). It's limited for just a few >>>> connections. I'm not happy with it. It's too expensive, and sometimes it >>>> can't make a connection. >>>> Can you advice me an alternative that is cheaper and works well? >>>> Many thanks in advance. >>>> >>>> With kind regards, >>>> Fokke Nauta >>> >>> Thanks for your suggestions. >>> I installed TightVNC. It worked well for the other pc's, but not for the >>> wifi laptops. It asked for a password which I didn't know. I filled in >>> the password for the user of the laptop but that didn't work. >>> I uninstalled it. >>> I installed UltraVNC. It didn't work. It is asking for a password. Onve >>> again I filled in the password for the user of the laptop but that >>> didn't work. I installed a password in the server, but filling this in >>> in the viewer didn't work as well. So I unstalled this as well. >>> >>> So - I haven't got a clue. >>> >>> Fokke >> >> The VNC clients connect to a VNC server. You have a VNC client >> installed on the remote host, and a VNC server on the local host. For >> example, you'd have a VNC client on host-A, and a VNC server on host-B. >> When you connect the client to the server, the client needs to specify >> the login password at the server. > > I know that. You can choose to not using passwords. As this is all in > our home, I choosed for that. > >> https://www.tightvnc.com/doc/win/TightVNC_for_Windows-Installation_and_Getting_Started.pdf >> Installation >> Register TightVNC Server as a system service (recommended) > > Ofcourse I did. > >> By default, TightVNC Server is installed as a Windows service and >> starts immediately after installation. At the end of the >> installation you will be asked about passwords for TightVNC >> Server as a service, in order to protect it from unauthorized >> access. > > I choosed for not using passwords. > >> You SHOULD use a password at the server to ensure that intruders don't >> get access to your host running the VNC server. > > We don't have intruders in our home. Then maybe when prompted for a password, you leave it blank, and hit Enter. The expectation when choosing not to use passwords is that you don't get prompted for them, but maybe not using password with TightVNC means you just click through the password prompt. A user reported "TightVNC site claims there is no default password", like blank or "password", also verified at: https://www.tightvnc.com/winst.php "In the default configuration, each user can have his/her own separate WinVNC password, bit also there is a special default password used when no user password is available (e.g when nobody is logged in, or if no user password was set). Note: there is no any predefined default password in TightVNC, machine-wide password is called "default" just because it's used when there are no user-specific passwords available." (They need to use a grammar and spelling checker for their docs.) Either there is no default password, and you have to specify one, or maybe they're trying to say the default password is "default". It was unclear you would use VNC only with your intranetwork hosts versus having access to one of your intranet hosts from outside your network, like from the Internet. That's highly likely why there is password protect on login. When you get a prompt to enter a password, can you click OK to ignore the prompt? Just not specifying a password at the server may not mean you don't need one to log into the server. https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/31281/tightvnc-to-windows-7-password The respondent there said a password is required. https://www.tightvnc.com/vncpasswd.1.php "Each password has to be longer than five characters". I can't see how a blank passwword could be longer than 5 chars.
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| From | Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> |
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| Date | 2025-08-04 11:34 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mfbd59F2lsiU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #186515 |
On 04/08/2025 01:11, VanguardLH wrote: > Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote: > >> On 03/08/2025 02:56, VanguardLH wrote: >>> Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote: >>> >>>> On 01/08/2025 16:11, Fokke Nauta wrote: >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> At home I have my own W10 pc and two other W10 pc's and two W11 laptops. >>>>> To have a remote connection with the other pc's and laptops I use >>>>> RealVNC Viewer. U used it for years, but since last year I have to pay >>>>> for it (about 250 euro's per year). It's limited for just a few >>>>> connections. I'm not happy with it. It's too expensive, and sometimes it >>>>> can't make a connection. >>>>> Can you advice me an alternative that is cheaper and works well? >>>>> Many thanks in advance. >>>>> >>>>> With kind regards, >>>>> Fokke Nauta >>>> >>>> Thanks for your suggestions. >>>> I installed TightVNC. It worked well for the other pc's, but not for the >>>> wifi laptops. It asked for a password which I didn't know. I filled in >>>> the password for the user of the laptop but that didn't work. >>>> I uninstalled it. >>>> I installed UltraVNC. It didn't work. It is asking for a password. Onve >>>> again I filled in the password for the user of the laptop but that >>>> didn't work. I installed a password in the server, but filling this in >>>> in the viewer didn't work as well. So I unstalled this as well. >>>> >>>> So - I haven't got a clue. >>>> >>>> Fokke >>> >>> The VNC clients connect to a VNC server. You have a VNC client >>> installed on the remote host, and a VNC server on the local host. For >>> example, you'd have a VNC client on host-A, and a VNC server on host-B. >>> When you connect the client to the server, the client needs to specify >>> the login password at the server. >> >> I know that. You can choose to not using passwords. As this is all in >> our home, I choosed for that. >> >>> https://www.tightvnc.com/doc/win/TightVNC_for_Windows-Installation_and_Getting_Started.pdf >>> Installation >>> Register TightVNC Server as a system service (recommended) >> >> Ofcourse I did. >> >>> By default, TightVNC Server is installed as a Windows service and >>> starts immediately after installation. At the end of the >>> installation you will be asked about passwords for TightVNC >>> Server as a service, in order to protect it from unauthorized >>> access. >> >> I choosed for not using passwords. >> >>> You SHOULD use a password at the server to ensure that intruders don't >>> get access to your host running the VNC server. >> >> We don't have intruders in our home. > > Then maybe when prompted for a password, you leave it blank, and hit > Enter. The expectation when choosing not to use passwords is that you > don't get prompted for them, but maybe not using password with TightVNC > means you just click through the password prompt. A user reported > "TightVNC site claims there is no default password", like blank or > "password", also verified at: > > https://www.tightvnc.com/winst.php > "In the default configuration, each user can have his/her own separate > WinVNC password, bit also there is a special default password used when > no user password is available (e.g when nobody is logged in, or if no > user password was set). Note: there is no any predefined default > password in TightVNC, machine-wide password is called "default" just > because it's used when there are no user-specific passwords available." > (They need to use a grammar and spelling checker for their docs.) > > Either there is no default password, and you have to specify one, or > maybe they're trying to say the default password is "default". > > It was unclear you would use VNC only with your intranetwork hosts > versus having access to one of your intranet hosts from outside your > network, like from the Internet. That's highly likely why there is > password protect on login. When you get a prompt to enter a password, > can you click OK to ignore the prompt? > > Just not specifying a password at the server may not mean you don't need > one to log into the server. > > https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/31281/tightvnc-to-windows-7-password > > The respondent there said a password is required. > > https://www.tightvnc.com/vncpasswd.1.php > > "Each password has to be longer than five characters". I can't see how > a blank passwword could be longer than 5 chars. Thanks. I now use TightVNC for the two local W10 pc's. Don't use passwords and it works well. With my wife's W11 laptop it won't connect. It didn't ask for a password. I get an error message, saying that the connection has failed. With my W11 laptop, it asks for a password. I didn't set a password. With a secons attempt I did set a password, but it still didn't work. The password was not accepted. So I won't use TightVNC for the W11 wifi connected laptops. Fokke
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| From | VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> |
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| Date | 2025-08-04 14:06 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <1qhn54nejpilx.dlg@v.nguard.lh> |
| In reply to | #186524 |
Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote: > I now use TightVNC for the two local W10 pc's. Don't use passwords and > it works well. With my wife's W11 laptop it won't connect. It didn't ask > for a password. I get an error message, saying that the connection has > failed. > With my W11 laptop, it asks for a password. I didn't set a password. > With a secons attempt I did set a password, but it still didn't work. > The password was not accepted. > So I won't use TightVNC for the W11 wifi connected laptops. Instead of newsgroups or web forums, TightVNC has mailing lists. See: https://www.tightvnc.com/lists.php or https://sourceforge.net/projects/vnc-tight/lists/vnc-tight-list Maybe some users there can help with password issues if no one here comes up with a resolution for you. Sourceforge has become increasingly slow to respond at their web site. No idea if their mailing lists suffer the same issue.
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| From | Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> |
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| Date | 2025-08-06 08:59 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mfgcqqFsatjU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #186538 |
On 04/08/2025 21:06, VanguardLH wrote: > Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote: > >> I now use TightVNC for the two local W10 pc's. Don't use passwords and >> it works well. With my wife's W11 laptop it won't connect. It didn't ask >> for a password. I get an error message, saying that the connection has >> failed. >> With my W11 laptop, it asks for a password. I didn't set a password. >> With a secons attempt I did set a password, but it still didn't work. >> The password was not accepted. >> So I won't use TightVNC for the W11 wifi connected laptops. > > Instead of newsgroups or web forums, TightVNC has mailing lists. See: > > https://www.tightvnc.com/lists.php > or > https://sourceforge.net/projects/vnc-tight/lists/vnc-tight-list > > Maybe some users there can help with password issues if no one here > comes up with a resolution for you. Sourceforge has become increasingly > slow to respond at their web site. No idea if their mailing lists > suffer the same issue. Thanks. I will have a look at it. Fokke
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| From | Philip Herlihy <nothing@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2025-08-03 21:07 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.42f9d1eeaaa0797b9896b8@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #186476 |
In article <mf6ma7F98dlU2@mid.individual.net>, fnauta@solfon.nl says... >I installed UltraVNC. It didn't work. It is asking for a password. Onve >again I filled in the password for the user of the laptop but that >didn't work. I installed a password in the server, but filling this in >in the viewer didn't work as well. So I unstalled this as well. > > With UltraVNC, you install the server as a service on the machine you want to support. If you right-click the server icon (system tray) I seem to remember there are two options to configure settings - in one of these you can set a password. This is useful if you want to control access to a machine where the connection is initiated from the client application (particularly if you're traversing the Internet to do this). Try setting up two machines on your local network: one server, one client, and fool around with it before you try opening ports and allowing full remote access. If you haven't set a password, try the "null" password (just hit Enter). With the arrangement I described above, connections are initiated from the server end, to a client running at my end. See my post for full details of this. Note that I'd normally use Quick Assist between Windows machines (10 and above). But non-technical friends have coped well with both Quick Assist and my way of using UltraVNC, where I talk them through right- clicking the server icon and entering my address. -- Phil, London
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| From | Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> |
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| Date | 2025-08-04 11:24 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mfbchgF2lsiU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #186513 |
On 03/08/2025 22:07, Philip Herlihy wrote: > In article <mf6ma7F98dlU2@mid.individual.net>, fnauta@solfon.nl says... > > >> I installed UltraVNC. It didn't work. It is asking for a password. Onve >> again I filled in the password for the user of the laptop but that >> didn't work. I installed a password in the server, but filling this in >> in the viewer didn't work as well. So I unstalled this as well. >> >> > > > With UltraVNC, you install the server as a service on the machine you > want to support. If you right-click the server icon (system tray) I > seem to remember there are two options to configure settings - in one of > these you can set a password. This is useful if you want to control > access to a machine where the connection is initiated from the client > application (particularly if you're traversing the Internet to do this). > Try setting up two machines on your local network: one server, one > client, and fool around with it before you try opening ports and > allowing full remote access. If you haven't set a password, try the > "null" password (just hit Enter). > > With the arrangement I described above, connections are initiated from > the server end, to a client running at my end. See my post for full > details of this. > > Note that I'd normally use Quick Assist between Windows machines (10 and > above). But non-technical friends have coped well with both Quick > Assist and my way of using UltraVNC, where I talk them through right- > clicking the server icon and entering my address. > -- > Phil, London Thanks. I have configured UltraVNC, that wasn't difficult. But it still didn't work. So I uninstalled UltraVNC. I now use TightVNC for the two local pc's. Fokke
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| From | Philip Herlihy <nothing@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2025-08-04 10:50 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.42fa92c0a616fa819896b9@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #186523 |
In article <mfbchgF2lsiU1@mid.individual.net>, fnauta@solfon.nl says... >I have configured UltraVNC, that wasn't difficult. But it still didn't work. >So I uninstalled UltraVNC. I now use TightVNC for the two local pc's. > All I can say is that I've installed UltraVNC on numerous machines over many years and never had any problems with it. It may perhaps be that it's not as clear how to set it up successfully as it might be? -- Phil, London
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| From | Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> |
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| Date | 2025-08-06 09:01 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mfgcv2FsatjU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #186525 |
On 04/08/2025 11:50, Philip Herlihy wrote: > In article <mfbchgF2lsiU1@mid.individual.net>, fnauta@solfon.nl says... > > >> I have configured UltraVNC, that wasn't difficult. But it still didn't work. >> So I uninstalled UltraVNC. I now use TightVNC for the two local pc's. >> > > > All I can say is that I've installed UltraVNC on numerous machines over > many years and never had any problems with it. It may perhaps be that > it's not as clear how to set it up successfully as it might be? > > -- > Phil, London It wasn't difficult to set it up. But it did not work for the two wifi laptops. Fokke
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| From | Philip Herlihy <nothing@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2025-08-07 11:39 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.42fe92c2e735c6839896ba@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #186552 |
In article <mfgcv2FsatjU2@mid.individual.net>, fnauta@solfon.nl says... > >On 04/08/2025 11:50, Philip Herlihy wrote: >> In article <mfbchgF2lsiU1@mid.individual.net>, fnauta@solfon.nl says... >> >> >>> I have configured UltraVNC, that wasn't difficult. But it still didn't work. >>> So I uninstalled UltraVNC. I now use TightVNC for the two local pc's. >>> >> >> >> All I can say is that I've installed UltraVNC on numerous machines over >> many years and never had any problems with it. It may perhaps be that >> it's not as clear how to set it up successfully as it might be? >> >> -- >> Phil, London > >It wasn't difficult to set it up. >But it did not work for the two wifi laptops. > >Fokke I see my previous "diplomatic language" missed the mark. You have something misconfigured. If it asks for a password and you haven't set one, try just hitting Enter. Otherwise, make sure the Windows firewall is set to allow this app on both private and public networks. (For securer ways of operating over the Internet, rather than your LAN, see my previous posts. -- -- Phil, London
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| From | Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> |
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| Date | 2025-08-07 15:19 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mfjnf2FejrfU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #186569 |
On 07/08/2025 12:39, Philip Herlihy wrote: > In article <mfgcv2FsatjU2@mid.individual.net>, fnauta@solfon.nl says... >> >> On 04/08/2025 11:50, Philip Herlihy wrote: >>> In article <mfbchgF2lsiU1@mid.individual.net>, fnauta@solfon.nl says... >>> >>> >>>> I have configured UltraVNC, that wasn't difficult. But it still didn't work. >>>> So I uninstalled UltraVNC. I now use TightVNC for the two local pc's. >>>> >>> >>> >>> All I can say is that I've installed UltraVNC on numerous machines over >>> many years and never had any problems with it. It may perhaps be that >>> it's not as clear how to set it up successfully as it might be? >>> >>> -- >>> Phil, London >> >> It wasn't difficult to set it up. >> But it did not work for the two wifi laptops. >> >> Fokke > > I see my previous "diplomatic language" missed the mark. You have > something misconfigured. If it asks for a password and you haven't set > one, try just hitting Enter. Ofcourse I did but it didn't work. > Otherwise, make sure the Windows firewall > is set to allow this app on both private and public networks. It is > (For > securer ways of operating over the Internet, rather than your LAN, see > my previous posts. > Fokke
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| From | Zaidy036 <Zaidy036@air.isp.spam> |
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| Date | 2025-08-04 16:25 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <106r501$27lll$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #186523 |
On 8/4/2025 5:24 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote: > On 03/08/2025 22:07, Philip Herlihy wrote: >> In article <mf6ma7F98dlU2@mid.individual.net>, fnauta@solfon.nl says... >> >> >>> I installed UltraVNC. It didn't work. It is asking for a password. Onve >>> again I filled in the password for the user of the laptop but that >>> didn't work. I installed a password in the server, but filling this in >>> in the viewer didn't work as well. So I unstalled this as well. >>> >>> >> >> >> With UltraVNC, you install the server as a service on the machine you >> want to support. If you right-click the server icon (system tray) I >> seem to remember there are two options to configure settings - in one of >> these you can set a password. This is useful if you want to control >> access to a machine where the connection is initiated from the client >> application (particularly if you're traversing the Internet to do this). >> Try setting up two machines on your local network: one server, one >> client, and fool around with it before you try opening ports and >> allowing full remote access. If you haven't set a password, try the >> "null" password (just hit Enter). >> >> With the arrangement I described above, connections are initiated from >> the server end, to a client running at my end. See my post for full >> details of this. >> >> Note that I'd normally use Quick Assist between Windows machines (10 and >> above). But non-technical friends have coped well with both Quick >> Assist and my way of using UltraVNC, where I talk them through right- >> clicking the server icon and entering my address. >> -- >> Phil, London > > > Thanks. > I have configured UltraVNC, that wasn't difficult. But it still didn't > work. > So I uninstalled UltraVNC. I now use TightVNC for the two local pc's. > > Fokke the password is for the app not the connected PCs
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| From | Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> |
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| Date | 2025-08-06 09:03 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mfgd20FsatjU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #186541 |
On 04/08/2025 22:25, Zaidy036 wrote: > On 8/4/2025 5:24 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote: >> On 03/08/2025 22:07, Philip Herlihy wrote: >>> In article <mf6ma7F98dlU2@mid.individual.net>, fnauta@solfon.nl says... >>> >>> >>>> I installed UltraVNC. It didn't work. It is asking for a password. Onve >>>> again I filled in the password for the user of the laptop but that >>>> didn't work. I installed a password in the server, but filling this in >>>> in the viewer didn't work as well. So I unstalled this as well. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> With UltraVNC, you install the server as a service on the machine you >>> want to support. If you right-click the server icon (system tray) I >>> seem to remember there are two options to configure settings - in one of >>> these you can set a password. This is useful if you want to control >>> access to a machine where the connection is initiated from the client >>> application (particularly if you're traversing the Internet to do this). >>> Try setting up two machines on your local network: one server, one >>> client, and fool around with it before you try opening ports and >>> allowing full remote access. If you haven't set a password, try the >>> "null" password (just hit Enter). >>> >>> With the arrangement I described above, connections are initiated from >>> the server end, to a client running at my end. See my post for full >>> details of this. >>> >>> Note that I'd normally use Quick Assist between Windows machines (10 and >>> above). But non-technical friends have coped well with both Quick >>> Assist and my way of using UltraVNC, where I talk them through right- >>> clicking the server icon and entering my address. >>> -- >>> Phil, London >> >> >> Thanks. >> I have configured UltraVNC, that wasn't difficult. But it still didn't >> work. >> So I uninstalled UltraVNC. I now use TightVNC for the two local pc's. >> >> Fokke > the password is for the app not the connected PCs But I didn't set a password. Fokke
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| From | Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-06 20:55 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mfhqaeF522vU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #186429 |
On 01/08/2025 15:11, Fokke Nauta wrote: > Hi all, > > At home I have my own W10 pc and two other W10 pc's and two W11 laptops. > To have a remote connection with the other pc's and laptops I use > RealVNC Viewer. U used it for years, but since last year I have to pay > for it (about 250 euro's per year). It's limited for just a few > connections. I'm not happy with it. It's too expensive, and sometimes it > can't make a connection. > Can you advice me an alternative that is cheaper and works well? > Many thanks in advance. > > With kind regards, > Fokke Nauta I'm told https://www.tightvnc.com/ is good. -- Brian Gregory (in England).
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| From | Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-06 21:00 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mfhqj6F522vU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #186560 |
On 06/08/2025 20:55, Brian Gregory wrote: > On 01/08/2025 15:11, Fokke Nauta wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> At home I have my own W10 pc and two other W10 pc's and two W11 >> laptops. To have a remote connection with the other pc's and laptops I >> use RealVNC Viewer. U used it for years, but since last year I have to >> pay for it (about 250 euro's per year). It's limited for just a few >> connections. I'm not happy with it. It's too expensive, and sometimes >> it can't make a connection. >> Can you advice me an alternative that is cheaper and works well? >> Many thanks in advance. >> >> With kind regards, >> Fokke Nauta > > I'm told https://www.tightvnc.com/ is good. > Or I guess if you just want something that's dead simple to use which requires no expertise to secure it, then go with Chrome Remote Desktop, especially if you already have the Chrome browser installed. -- Brian Gregory (in England).
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| From | Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> |
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| Date | 2025-08-07 15:22 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mfjnjoFejrfU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #186561 |
On 06/08/2025 22:00, Brian Gregory wrote: > On 06/08/2025 20:55, Brian Gregory wrote: >> On 01/08/2025 15:11, Fokke Nauta wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> At home I have my own W10 pc and two other W10 pc's and two W11 >>> laptops. To have a remote connection with the other pc's and laptops >>> I use RealVNC Viewer. U used it for years, but since last year I have >>> to pay for it (about 250 euro's per year). It's limited for just a >>> few connections. I'm not happy with it. It's too expensive, and >>> sometimes it can't make a connection. >>> Can you advice me an alternative that is cheaper and works well? >>> Many thanks in advance. >>> >>> With kind regards, >>> Fokke Nauta >> >> I'm told https://www.tightvnc.com/ is good. >> > > Or I guess if you just want something that's dead simple to use which > requires no expertise to secure it, then go with Chrome Remote Desktop, > especially if you already have the Chrome browser installed. > No, Chrome Remote Desktop is not an option for me. Fokke
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| From | Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> |
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| Date | 2025-08-07 15:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mfjnhhFejrfU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #186560 |
On 06/08/2025 21:55, Brian Gregory wrote: > On 01/08/2025 15:11, Fokke Nauta wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> At home I have my own W10 pc and two other W10 pc's and two W11 >> laptops. To have a remote connection with the other pc's and laptops I >> use RealVNC Viewer. U used it for years, but since last year I have to >> pay for it (about 250 euro's per year). It's limited for just a few >> connections. I'm not happy with it. It's too expensive, and sometimes >> it can't make a connection. >> Can you advice me an alternative that is cheaper and works well? >> Many thanks in advance. >> >> With kind regards, >> Fokke Nauta > > I'm told https://www.tightvnc.com/ is good. > I now use TightVNC for the two local W10 pc's. It didn't work with the two wifi W11 laptops. Fokke
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| From | Philip Herlihy <nothing@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2025-08-08 11:44 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.42ffe568a9d658189896bb@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #186574 |
In article <mfjnhhFejrfU2@mid.individual.net>, fnauta@solfon.nl says... > > >I now use TightVNC for the two local W10 pc's. It didn't work with the >two wifi W11 laptops. > > If you're still without a solution for the W11 laptops, try running the UVNC server on one (running as a service), and a "listening client" on the other. On the latter, open port 5500 via your firewall, and run the listening client. On the server, right-click the system tray icon and pick "new connection" (forget exact words, but it's obvious) and give the local IP address of the machine running the client. That should work, and give you a basis to work from. If it doesn't work for you, I'd suggest using an AI research tool like Perplexity or ChatGPT to help you diagnose the problem. Good luck! -- Phil, London
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