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| Started by | Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> |
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| First post | 2025-08-01 16:11 +0200 |
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Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-01 16:11 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-08-01 10:28 -0400
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-01 18:19 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-01 12:33 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-08-01 13:49 -0400
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-01 21:11 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection NY <me@privacy.net> - 2025-08-02 16:29 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-02 18:26 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-01 20:45 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-02 15:58 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-02 16:35 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-08-01 16:43 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-01 20:47 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-01 09:02 -0700
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-01 09:13 -0700
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-01 18:41 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-01 20:49 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-01 12:06 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-01 20:54 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-01 15:26 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Michael Logies <logies@t-online.de> - 2025-08-06 15:58 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-06 18:41 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-06 12:35 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-01 17:32 -0700
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Philip Herlihy <nothing@invalid.com> - 2025-08-02 12:15 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-02 15:57 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-02 15:46 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-02 17:30 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-02 18:32 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-02 19:53 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-02 17:53 -0400
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-03 19:43 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-08-03 20:41 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-04 11:55 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-08-04 23:22 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-05 20:24 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-04 12:57 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-03 23:10 -0700
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-04 15:37 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-02 15:54 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-02 16:40 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-02 19:56 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-03 20:36 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-03 18:11 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-04 11:34 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-04 14:06 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-06 08:59 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Philip Herlihy <nothing@invalid.com> - 2025-08-03 21:07 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-04 11:24 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Philip Herlihy <nothing@invalid.com> - 2025-08-04 10:50 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-06 09:01 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Philip Herlihy <nothing@invalid.com> - 2025-08-07 11:39 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-07 15:19 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Zaidy036 <Zaidy036@air.isp.spam> - 2025-08-04 16:25 -0400
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-06 09:03 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2025-08-06 20:55 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2025-08-06 21:00 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-07 15:22 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-07 15:20 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Philip Herlihy <nothing@invalid.com> - 2025-08-08 11:44 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-09 12:59 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-09 13:17 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-10 18:01 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-10 18:12 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-10 19:33 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-10 19:08 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-11 09:46 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-11 14:07 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-11 08:19 -0500
OT: Microsoft product (and service) naming (was: Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-11 14:36 +0100
Re: OT: Microsoft product (and service) naming "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-20 11:06 +0200
Re: OT: Microsoft product (and service) naming "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-10-20 10:48 +0100
Re: OT: Microsoft product (and service) naming "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-20 13:36 +0200
Re: OT: Microsoft product (and service) naming Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-10-20 12:36 +0000
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-10 19:57 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-10 20:42 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-11 09:44 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-11 14:09 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-11 08:53 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-11 15:53 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-11 13:03 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-11 19:31 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-11 21:11 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-12 02:00 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-13 21:21 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> - 2025-10-19 23:36 -0700
OT: ageing (was: Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-10-20 08:45 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-11 20:20 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-08-12 12:35 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-12 14:16 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-08-12 21:11 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-12 17:24 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-08-13 05:10 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-12 15:29 -0400
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Michael Logies <logies@t-online.de> - 2025-08-11 22:40 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-11 21:06 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-11 20:35 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-12 09:01 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-12 13:23 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-13 03:45 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-13 21:28 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-13 17:09 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-14 13:27 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-11 21:03 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-11 20:39 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection rsutton <rsutton43@comcast.net> - 2025-08-12 07:49 -0400
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection wasbit <wasbit@REMOVEhotmail.com> - 2025-08-13 09:26 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-13 11:39 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-13 12:13 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-13 18:33 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-13 12:52 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection rsutton <rsutton43@comcast.net> - 2025-08-14 08:22 -0400
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-14 16:00 +0200
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| From | Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> |
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| Date | 2025-08-01 16:11 +0200 |
| Subject | Alternative for remote desktop connection |
| Message-ID | <mf4082Fpv52U1@mid.individual.net> |
Hi all, At home I have my own W10 pc and two other W10 pc's and two W11 laptops. To have a remote connection with the other pc's and laptops I use RealVNC Viewer. U used it for years, but since last year I have to pay for it (about 250 euro's per year). It's limited for just a few connections. I'm not happy with it. It's too expensive, and sometimes it can't make a connection. Can you advice me an alternative that is cheaper and works well? Many thanks in advance. With kind regards, Fokke Nauta
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| From | "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2025-08-01 10:28 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <106iiv0$e6kq$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #186429 |
On 8/1/25 10:11 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> At home I have my own W10 pc and two other W10 pc's and two W11 laptops. To have a remote
> connection with the other pc's and laptops I use RealVNC Viewer. U used it for years, but
> since last year I have to pay for it (about 250 euro's per year). It's limited for just a
> few connections. I'm not happy with it. It's too expensive, and sometimes it can't make a
> connection.
> Can you advice me an alternative that is cheaper and works well?
> Many thanks in advance.
>
> With kind regards,
> Fokke Nauta
I've always used Teamviewer. You can get the remote if you are the only one wanting to
control machines, and then there is a quick support for those who you support (your other
PCs).
I like it cause I'm on Linux and there is a version for it. I have a login/account and I
can save all you remote connections in my account, like an addressbook. Handy to a quick
dial.
Sounds asinine but I used to connect to my wife's pc, 3 ft next to me. It was easier
than unplugging her laptop, handing over the end table, along with the mouse, putting my
laptop down etc etc. just for a 1 minute fix.
--
Linux Mint 22.1, Thunderbird 128.13.0esr, Mozilla Firefox 141.0
Alan K.
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| From | "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> |
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| Date | 2025-08-01 18:19 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <106isun$6o59$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #186430 |
On 2025/8/1 15:28:48, Alan K. wrote: > On 8/1/25 10:11 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote: [] >> Can you advice me an alternative that is cheaper and works well? >> Many thanks in advance. >> >> With kind regards, >> Fokke Nauta > > I've always used Teamviewer. You can get the remote if you are the only one wanting to > control machines, and then there is a quick support for those who you support (your other > PCs). [] I second TeamViewer (free for non-commercial use). As VLH says, it sometimes flags you as a commercial user, but if you follow their instructions you can appeal and they'll unblock you. But isn't there something built-in to Windows, from 7 or 10 onwards?-- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Eve had an Apple, Adam had a Wang...
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| From | VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> |
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| Date | 2025-08-01 12:33 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <hdp15brq3cy8.dlg@v.nguard.lh> |
| In reply to | #186439 |
"J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
Huh? --------.
>... |
> But isn't there something built-in to Windows, from 7 or 10 onwards?--
> J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
>
> Eve had an Apple, Adam had a Wang...
Tbird, or many an extension, screwed up where it positioned the
signature delimiter (-- \n). Went at the end of a non-blank line
instead of at column 1 of an otherwise blank line. Normally I hide
sigblocks, but yours was not properly delineated.
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| From | "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2025-08-01 13:49 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <106iunp$i016$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #186441 |
On 8/1/25 1:33 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
> "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
> Huh? --------.
>> ... |
>> But isn't there something built-in to Windows, from 7 or 10 onwards?--
>> J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
>>
>> Eve had an Apple, Adam had a Wang...
>
> Tbird, or many an extension, screwed up where it positioned the
> signature delimiter (-- \n). Went at the end of a non-blank line
> instead of at column 1 of an otherwise blank line. Normally I hide
> sigblocks, but yours was not properly delineated.
I think he just ran his typing into the sig.
I do it a lot. My sig shows in red and when it doesn't then I know I've typed into it and
I ctrl+Z back out.
--
Linux Mint 22.1, Thunderbird 128.13.0esr, Mozilla Firefox 141.0
Alan K.
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| From | "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> |
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| Date | 2025-08-01 21:11 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <106j70q$6o5a$6@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #186441 |
On 2025/8/1 18:33:3, VanguardLH wrote: > "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote: > Huh? --------. >> ... | >> But isn't there something built-in to Windows, from 7 or 10 onwards?-- >> J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf >> >> Eve had an Apple, Adam had a Wang... > > Tbird, or many an extension, screwed up where it positioned the > signature delimiter (-- \n). Went at the end of a non-blank line > instead of at column 1 of an otherwise blank line. Normally I hide > sigblocks, but yours was not properly delineated. I know. TBird's compose editor is horrible at what it does with newlines. I _usually_ notice before sending, but not always. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Cumulatively, however, they do get my goat, on my wick and up my nose, to the extent I am angry enough to stick a wick up a goat's nose and to hell with the consequences. - Eddie Mair, RT 2016/2/27-3/4
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| From | NY <me@privacy.net> |
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| Date | 2025-08-02 16:29 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <106latn$14abj$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #186439 |
On 01/08/2025 18:19, J. P. Gilliver wrote: > I second TeamViewer (free for non-commercial use). As VLH says, it > sometimes flags you as a commercial user, but if you follow their > instructions you can appeal and they'll unblock you. The flagged-as-commercial restriction is a right PITA. I use TeamViewer to access my Mum's PC to help her with any problems she may have. Every 6-12 months, it gets flagged as commercial usage and I have to go through the appeals process yet again. It seems to start working again properly, but there is no proper response when I certify that it's not commercial access, to confirm that they have received my request and that normal service should have resumed, so I have to take it on trust and hope that I don't get rejected or else connected only for a few minutes. I use RealVNC to access computers within my house (eg laptop accessing desktop if I can't be arsed to go through to my study, or when accessing headless computers such as my Raspberry Pis. That works very well, and I've never had the system flag my usage as commercial. The only restriction is that you can only have three cloud-connected computers in an account. All Windows and Linux computers use the cloud to connect them, even if both client and server are on the same LAN; to remove that restriction and the three-computers restriction, you need to pay. Raspberry Pi computers (using the Raspberry Pi OS as opposed to any other Linux distro) have the server built in and it can be accessed by direct TCP connection; indeed at the moment their server can *only* connect by TCP and not by cloud, in the current version of RPiOS, due to something called Wayland, but I understand they are hoping to remove the restriction and allow cloud connections if you need to connect from outside the LAN. At present I have to set up port forwarding to allow external access to a WAN port with forwards to RealVNC's port (5700, IIRC) if I need to access a Pi from the outside world.
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| From | "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> |
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| Date | 2025-08-02 18:26 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <106lhov$167vo$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #186480 |
On 2025/8/2 16:29:58, NY wrote: > On 01/08/2025 18:19, J. P. Gilliver wrote: >> I second TeamViewer (free for non-commercial use). As VLH says, it >> sometimes flags you as a commercial user, but if you follow their >> instructions you can appeal and they'll unblock you. > > The flagged-as-commercial restriction is a right PITA. I use TeamViewer > to access my Mum's PC to help her with any problems she may have. Every > 6-12 months, it gets flagged as commercial usage and I have to go > through the appeals process yet again. It seems to start working again Though IIRR it can I think take two or three days. > properly, but there is no proper response when I certify that it's not > commercial access, to confirm that they have received my request and > that normal service should have resumed, so I have to take it on trust Agreed. [] > them, even if both client and server are on the same LAN; to remove that > restriction and the three-computers restriction, you need to pay. And their fees are pretty astronomical - certainly above what any amateur can justify. I _presume_ they _have_ done their sums, but I can't help thinking they'd get a _lot_ of people actually willing to pay a _reasonable_ amount; it is a very good product (I once tried some of the alternative free ones - they all needed more work and didn't work as well). Presumably they're afraid nearly all their paying-through-the-nose customers would switch if they offered anything cheaper: I just think things could be different and still profitable. [] -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "Bother," said Pooh, as Eeyore sneezed the crack all over Owl.
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| From | Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-08-01 20:45 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mf4g9mFsjupU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #186430 |
On 01/08/2025 16:28, Alan K. wrote: > On 8/1/25 10:11 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> At home I have my own W10 pc and two other W10 pc's and two W11 >> laptops. To have a remote connection with the other pc's and laptops I >> use RealVNC Viewer. U used it for years, but since last year I have to >> pay for it (about 250 euro's per year). It's limited for just a few >> connections. I'm not happy with it. It's too expensive, and sometimes >> it can't make a connection. >> Can you advice me an alternative that is cheaper and works well? >> Many thanks in advance. >> >> With kind regards, >> Fokke Nauta > > I've always used Teamviewer. You can get the remote if you are the > only one wanting to control machines, and then there is a quick support > for those who you support (your other PCs). > > I like it cause I'm on Linux and there is a version for it. I have a > login/account and I can save all you remote connections in my account, > like an addressbook. Handy to a quick dial. > > Sounds asinine but I used to connect to my wife's pc, 3 ft next to me. > It was easier than unplugging her laptop, handing over the end table, > along with the mouse, putting my laptop down etc etc. just for a 1 > minute fix. > Thanks. I used Teamviewer for a person on a distance. It worked well. Perhaps I should use it for the pc's and laptops in my house? I'll give it a try! Fokke
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| From | "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-02 15:58 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mf6js4F8tfbU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #186444 |
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 20:45:10 +0200, Fokke Nauta wrote: > I used Teamviewer for a person on a distance. It worked well. Perhaps I > should use it for the pc's and laptops in my house? I'll give it a try! FYI it's possible you get blocked for using too many connections or staying connected for too long. -- s|b
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| From | Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> |
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| Date | 2025-08-02 16:35 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mf6m12F98dlU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #186473 |
On 02/08/2025 15:58, s|b wrote: > On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 20:45:10 +0200, Fokke Nauta wrote: > >> I used Teamviewer for a person on a distance. It worked well. Perhaps I >> should use it for the pc's and laptops in my house? I'll give it a try! > > FYI it's possible you get blocked for using too many connections or > staying connected for too long. > I guess you're right. I won't use it. It's not so friendly for multiple systems. Fokke
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| From | Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2025-08-01 16:43 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <106inc9$gbov$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #186429 |
Fokke Nauta wrote: > Hi all, > > At home I have my own W10 pc and two other W10 pc's and two W11 laptops. > To have a remote connection with the other pc's and laptops I use > RealVNC Viewer. U used it for years, but since last year I have to pay > for it (about 250 euro's per year). It's limited for just a few > connections. I'm not happy with it. It's too expensive, and sometimes it > can't make a connection. > Can you advice me an alternative that is cheaper and works well? > Many thanks in advance. I've used tightvnc from <https://www.tightvnc.com/> It works between computers on my LAN, and to any remote computer that I have configured for access using a LAN-to-LAN VPN. -- Graham J
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| From | Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> |
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| Date | 2025-08-01 20:47 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mf4genFsjupU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #186433 |
On 01/08/2025 17:43, Graham J wrote: > Fokke Nauta wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> At home I have my own W10 pc and two other W10 pc's and two W11 >> laptops. To have a remote connection with the other pc's and laptops I >> use RealVNC Viewer. U used it for years, but since last year I have to >> pay for it (about 250 euro's per year). It's limited for just a few >> connections. I'm not happy with it. It's too expensive, and sometimes >> it can't make a connection. >> Can you advice me an alternative that is cheaper and works well? >> Many thanks in advance. > > I've used tightvnc from <https://www.tightvnc.com/> > > It works between computers on my LAN, and to any remote computer that I > have configured for access using a LAN-to-LAN VPN. > > Thanks. I'll have a look at it. I don't know this! Fokke
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| From | T <T@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-01 09:02 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <106ioei$gcti$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #186429 |
On 8/1/25 7:11 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> At home I have my own W10 pc and two other W10 pc's and two W11 laptops.
> To have a remote connection with the other pc's and laptops I use
> RealVNC Viewer. U used it for years, but since last year I have to pay
> for it (about 250 euro's per year). It's limited for just a few
> connections. I'm not happy with it. It's too expensive, and sometimes it
> can't make a connection.
> Can you advice me an alternative that is cheaper and works well?
> Many thanks in advance.
>
> With kind regards,
> Fokke Nauta
Paid:
zoho assist
any desk
Free:
help wire
RDP that comes with Win Pro
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| From | T <T@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-01 09:13 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <106ip2h$gcti$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #186434 |
On 8/1/25 9:02 AM, T wrote: > On 8/1/25 7:11 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> At home I have my own W10 pc and two other W10 pc's and two W11 >> laptops. To have a remote connection with the other pc's and laptops I >> use RealVNC Viewer. U used it for years, but since last year I have to >> pay for it (about 250 euro's per year). It's limited for just a few >> connections. I'm not happy with it. It's too expensive, and sometimes >> it can't make a connection. >> Can you advice me an alternative that is cheaper and works well? >> Many thanks in advance. >> >> With kind regards, >> Fokke Nauta > > Paid: > zoho assist > any desk I believe both are free for personal use > > Free: > help wire > RDP that comes with Win Pro
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| From | "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-01 18:41 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mf490qFrdffU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #186429 |
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 16:11:14 +0200, Fokke Nauta wrote: > Can you advice me an alternative that is cheaper and works well? I haven't used it myself, but have you tried NoMachine? <https://www.nomachine.com/> -- s|b
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| From | Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> |
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| Date | 2025-08-01 20:49 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mf4ghlFsjupU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #186437 |
On 01/08/2025 18:41, s|b wrote: > On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 16:11:14 +0200, Fokke Nauta wrote: > >> Can you advice me an alternative that is cheaper and works well? > > I haven't used it myself, but have you tried NoMachine? > > <https://www.nomachine.com/> > No, I don't know it. But I'll have a look at it. Fokke
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| From | VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> |
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| Date | 2025-08-01 12:06 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <171r0oe5julxx.dlg@v.nguard.lh> |
| In reply to | #186429 |
Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote: > At home I have my own W10 pc and two other W10 pc's and two W11 laptops. > To have a remote connection with the other pc's and laptops I use > RealVNC Viewer. U used it for years, but since last year I have to pay > for it (about 250 euro's per year). It's limited for just a few > connections. I'm not happy with it. It's too expensive, and sometimes it > can't make a connection. > Can you advice me an alternative that is cheaper and works well? TightVNC Free, open source. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TightVNC https://www.tightvnc.com/ I haven't used any VNC variant for well over a decade. I wasn't connecting just between intranetwork hosts, but mostly wanted access across the Internet, like remoting to my home desktop PC with a laptop while on vacation. Had to punch a hole in the router's firewall to forward incoming connects to my home PC running a VNC server. I had dynamic IP addresses, so I had to use a DDNS (Dynamic DNS) service, like No-IP, OpenDNS, DynDNS, to do the DNS lookup to use a hostname for my home PC instead, and a DNS updater client to keep the DDNS service updated with whatever was my current dynamic IP address. I got a free DDNS account at OpenDNS and used their DNS updater client. Too much work overall. TeamViewer is easier to setup. No having to punch through firewalls, and no DDNS setup. Despite employing for personal use, sometimes Team Viewer flags you as a commericial user, and can disable your account. If you're using Chrome for your web browser, there is Chrome Remote Desktop. I've never used it. While I use Edge which is a Chromium variant, I don't have Chrome, so no experience with this. I'm guessing you will need a Google account. https://remotedesktop.google.com Helpwire has a free tier. https://www.helpwire.app/pricing/
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| From | Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> |
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| Date | 2025-08-01 20:54 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mf4gqsFsjupU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #186438 |
On 01/08/2025 19:06, VanguardLH wrote: > Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote: > >> At home I have my own W10 pc and two other W10 pc's and two W11 laptops. >> To have a remote connection with the other pc's and laptops I use >> RealVNC Viewer. U used it for years, but since last year I have to pay >> for it (about 250 euro's per year). It's limited for just a few >> connections. I'm not happy with it. It's too expensive, and sometimes it >> can't make a connection. >> Can you advice me an alternative that is cheaper and works well? > > TightVNC > Free, open source. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TightVNC > https://www.tightvnc.com/ > > I haven't used any VNC variant for well over a decade. I wasn't > connecting just between intranetwork hosts, but mostly wanted access > across the Internet, like remoting to my home desktop PC with a laptop > while on vacation. Had to punch a hole in the router's firewall to > forward incoming connects to my home PC running a VNC server. I had > dynamic IP addresses, so I had to use a DDNS (Dynamic DNS) service, like > No-IP, OpenDNS, DynDNS, to do the DNS lookup to use a hostname for my > home PC instead, and a DNS updater client to keep the DDNS service > updated with whatever was my current dynamic IP address. I got a free > DDNS account at OpenDNS and used their DNS updater client. Too much > work overall. > > TeamViewer is easier to setup. No having to punch through firewalls, > and no DDNS setup. Despite employing for personal use, sometimes Team > Viewer flags you as a commericial user, and can disable your account. > > If you're using Chrome for your web browser, there is Chrome Remote > Desktop. I've never used it. While I use Edge which is a Chromium > variant, I don't have Chrome, so no experience with this. I'm guessing > you will need a Google account. > > https://remotedesktop.google.com > > Helpwire has a free tier. > > https://www.helpwire.app/pricing/ Thanks, I will have a look at TightVCN. I'm curious. I use Chrome, but I don't know its remote desktop. Fokke
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| From | VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> |
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| Date | 2025-08-01 15:26 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <1svay18tbmxcd$.dlg@v.nguard.lh> |
| In reply to | #186447 |
Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote: > I use Chrome, but I don't know its remote desktop. Yeah, Chrome's web site (https://remotedesktop.google.com/) is pretty much worthless to figure out how to use it. You have to login to a Google account (by first clicking on either "Access my computer" or "Share my screen" buttons - there is no login button). I don't have Chrome, it is an extension you install into Chrome, but I don't know if their extension works in Edge. https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/chrome-remote-desktop/inomeogfingihgjfjlpeplalcfajhgai Maybe after installing their extension they then provide links to help articles, but I'm not betting on them providing helpful documentation. Or, you have to search Youtube to find tutorials, like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6ab8UGr4E4 While you need a Google account to use Chrome Remote Desktop, I don't know if the other endpoint must be logged into the same [or different] Google account to show the screen of one host on the other host. My guess for security purposes, especially to prevent spying, is you need to log into the same Google account on both endpoint hosts.
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