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Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-12 23:23 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> - 2025-01-13 21:25 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 16:32 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-13 17:44 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 17:54 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-13 18:10 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 18:25 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-13 17:52 -0600
Cult of Unix (was: Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-15 00:30 +0000
Re: Cult of Unix Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-14 20:05 -0600
Re: Cult of Unix Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-15 03:16 -0500
Re: Cult of Unix vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-15 09:02 +0000
Re: Cult of Unix ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 11:10 -0700
Re: Cult of Unix Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-16 05:03 +0000
Re: 🏳️🌈Cult of Unix🏳️🌈 🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈Jen🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 Dershmender 💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🐶笛🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2025-01-16 05:28 +0000
Re: Cult of Unix Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-16 10:34 -0500
Re: Cult of Unix vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-16 16:04 +0000
Re: Cult of Unix Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-16 14:48 -0600
Re: Cult of Unix Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-16 18:06 -0500
Re: Cult of Unix Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-17 02:49 +0000
Re: Cult of Unix vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-17 03:51 +0000
Re: Cult of Unix Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-17 02:10 -0500
Re: Cult of Unix Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-17 23:55 +0000
Re: Cult of Unix Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-17 20:53 -0500
Re: Cult of Unix Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-19 00:54 +0000
Re: Cult of Unix Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-17 16:46 +0000
Re: Cult of Unix Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-17 23:56 +0000
Re: Cult of Unix Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-17 20:54 -0500
Re: Cult of Unix Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-19 00:55 +0000
Re: Cult of Unix Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 20:01 -0500
Re: Cult of Unix Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-17 00:10 +0000
Re: 🏳️🌈Cult of Unix (was: Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs)🏳️🌈 🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈Jen🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 Dershmender 💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🐶笛🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2025-01-15 05:24 +0000
Setting up old-style backup on Windows 11 (was: Re: Cult of Unix) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-15 08:38 +0000
Re: 🏳️🌈Setting up old-style backup on Windows 11 (was: Re: Cult of Unix)🏳️🌈 🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈Jen🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 Dershmender 💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🐶笛🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2025-01-15 17:22 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-13 21:44 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Manu Raju <MR@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-14 03:09 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-15 06:56 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-15 02:52 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-17 00:11 +0000
Defragging (was: Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-17 03:45 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-17 23:10 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 10:40 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-15 23:14 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-15 20:15 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-01-16 01:29 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-14 12:46 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-15 13:51 +0100
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-15 09:58 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-15 16:20 +0100
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-15 23:20 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-16 15:36 +0100
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-17 00:12 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 18:09 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-16 15:47 +0100
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-14 05:48 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-13 16:48 -0600
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 23:54 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 11:33 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 10:46 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-15 11:33 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-15 17:02 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-16 05:40 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-16 06:27 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-27 22:49 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 14:32 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-15 15:52 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-15 20:34 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-16 00:41 -0600
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-16 06:42 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-16 14:40 -0600
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-16 16:34 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-16 16:56 -0600
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-16 22:40 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-17 02:04 -0600
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-17 07:34 -0600
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs roger <rduffy@hotmail.com.invalid - 2025-01-17 14:01 -0600
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-17 15:57 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-17 16:50 -0600
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-17 21:52 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-16 21:38 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-16 15:44 -0600
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-16 15:51 -0600
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-16 16:11 -0600
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-01-17 13:03 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-17 16:00 -0600
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-17 23:15 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-17 18:10 -0600
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-17 18:13 -0600
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-16 06:22 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-16 12:10 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-16 12:28 -0600
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-17 00:27 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-16 23:47 -0500
Gaming Laptops (was: Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-02-01 12:58 +0000
Re: Gaming Laptops Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-01 19:22 -0500
Re: Gaming Laptops chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-02-02 08:05 -0600
Re: Gaming Laptops candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-03 20:10 +0000
Re: Gaming Laptops Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-03 19:24 -0500
Re: Gaming Laptops pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-02-04 00:45 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-01-16 18:45 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-16 16:05 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-16 11:35 -0500
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-12 23:23 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs |
| Message-ID | <vm1itg$1f1ma$3@dont-email.me> |
On Fri, 10 Jan 2025 12:37:00 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote: > To remove the new Outlook app package after it's force installed on your > Windows device, you can use the Remove-AppxProvisionedPackage cmdlet > with the PackageName parameter value Microsoft.OutlookForWindows. > > This can be done by running the following command from a Windows > PowerShell prompt and adding a new reg value: > > [Blah blah hoyvin-glayvin blah blah] This is why they say, Windows is a great OS -- if your time is worth nothing.
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| From | MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-13 21:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vm40cl$21e8l$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #181294 |
On 12/01/2025 23:23, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Fri, 10 Jan 2025 12:37:00 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote: > >> To remove the new Outlook app package after it's force installed on your >> Windows device, you can use the Remove-AppxProvisionedPackage cmdlet >> with the PackageName parameter value Microsoft.OutlookForWindows. >> >> This can be done by running the following command from a Windows >> PowerShell prompt and adding a new reg value: >> >> [Blah blah hoyvin-glayvin blah blah] > > This is why they say, Windows is a great OS -- if your time is worth > nothing. > So which OS do you choose to expend your valuable time on?
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-13 16:32 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <6h1bojt7kdp4d5euq0f78rtuvqpg7edc3e@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #181310 |
MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> wrote: >On 12/01/2025 23:23, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> On Fri, 10 Jan 2025 12:37:00 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote: >> >>> To remove the new Outlook app package after it's force installed on your >>> Windows device, you can use the Remove-AppxProvisionedPackage cmdlet >>> with the PackageName parameter value Microsoft.OutlookForWindows. >>> >>> This can be done by running the following command from a Windows >>> PowerShell prompt and adding a new reg value: >>> >>> [Blah blah hoyvin-glayvin blah blah] >> >> This is why they say, Windows is a great OS -- if your time is worth >> nothing. >> >So which OS do you choose to expend your valuable time on? Linux is the only option worth pursuing. macOS is weird and expensive, Windows is bloatware beyond belief. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2025-01-13 17:44 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <HHghP.135123$5c34.129668@fx47.iad> |
| In reply to | #181311 |
On 2025-01-13 16:32, Joel wrote: > MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> wrote: >> On 12/01/2025 23:23, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>> On Fri, 10 Jan 2025 12:37:00 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote: >>> >>>> To remove the new Outlook app package after it's force installed on your >>>> Windows device, you can use the Remove-AppxProvisionedPackage cmdlet >>>> with the PackageName parameter value Microsoft.OutlookForWindows. >>>> >>>> This can be done by running the following command from a Windows >>>> PowerShell prompt and adding a new reg value: >>>> >>>> [Blah blah hoyvin-glayvin blah blah] >>> >>> This is why they say, Windows is a great OS -- if your time is worth >>> nothing. >>> >> So which OS do you choose to expend your valuable time on? > > > Linux is the only option worth pursuing. macOS is weird and > expensive, Windows is bloatware beyond belief. There's not much to pursue in MacOS. It works as it should and it is a fairly pleasant experience. However, I would agree that it's expensive. After a while, you'll need tools to do additional things and on MacOS, you're going to be paying money in most cases. Open-source is available for it too, mind you. -- CrudeSausage Gab: @CrudeSausage Unapologetic paleoconservative
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-13 17:54 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <la6bojl7t4686ll2teomlj0ig70ma8o8c8@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #181314 |
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >On 2025-01-13 16:32, Joel wrote: >> MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> wrote: >>> On 12/01/2025 23:23, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>>> >>>> Windows is a great OS -- if your time is worth >>>> nothing. >>>> >>> So which OS do you choose to expend your valuable time on? >> >> Linux is the only option worth pursuing. macOS is weird and >> expensive, Windows is bloatware beyond belief. > >There's not much to pursue in MacOS. It works as it should and it is a >fairly pleasant experience. However, I would agree that it's expensive. >After a while, you'll need tools to do additional things and on MacOS, >you're going to be paying money in most cases. Open-source is available >for it too, mind you. I just dislike Windows and macOS, it might be my own opinion but it's right for me. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2025-01-13 18:10 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <Q3hhP.45732$nlJ1.37298@fx41.iad> |
| In reply to | #181318 |
On 2025-01-13 17:54, Joel wrote: > CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >> On 2025-01-13 16:32, Joel wrote: >>> MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> wrote: >>>> On 12/01/2025 23:23, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Windows is a great OS -- if your time is worth >>>>> nothing. >>>>> >>>> So which OS do you choose to expend your valuable time on? >>> >>> Linux is the only option worth pursuing. macOS is weird and >>> expensive, Windows is bloatware beyond belief. >> >> There's not much to pursue in MacOS. It works as it should and it is a >> fairly pleasant experience. However, I would agree that it's expensive. >> After a while, you'll need tools to do additional things and on MacOS, >> you're going to be paying money in most cases. Open-source is available >> for it too, mind you. > > > I just dislike Windows and macOS, it might be my own opinion but it's > right for me. MacOS machines have a shelf life of about seven years before Apple decides that your machine is no longer worth supporting with updates. As we've seen, Windows machines get about seven, so it's a fair amount of time. However, Linux has them both beat with unlimited support no matter how pathetic the machine you're running it on is. -- CrudeSausage Gab: @CrudeSausage Unapologetic paleoconservative
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-13 18:25 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ru7bojpl0j6ot182uuhhvrakcflqsadi30@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #181320 |
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >On 2025-01-13 17:54, Joel wrote: >> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>> On 2025-01-13 16:32, Joel wrote: >>>> MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> wrote: >>>>> On 12/01/2025 23:23, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Windows is a great OS -- if your time is worth >>>>>> nothing. >>>>>> >>>>> So which OS do you choose to expend your valuable time on? >>>> >>>> Linux is the only option worth pursuing. macOS is weird and >>>> expensive, Windows is bloatware beyond belief. >>> >>> There's not much to pursue in MacOS. It works as it should and it is a >>> fairly pleasant experience. However, I would agree that it's expensive. >>> After a while, you'll need tools to do additional things and on MacOS, >>> you're going to be paying money in most cases. Open-source is available >>> for it too, mind you. >> >> I just dislike Windows and macOS, it might be my own opinion but it's >> right for me. > >MacOS machines have a shelf life of about seven years before Apple >decides that your machine is no longer worth supporting with updates. As >we've seen, Windows machines get about seven, so it's a fair amount of >time. However, Linux has them both beat with unlimited support no matter >how pathetic the machine you're running it on is. My machine is an interesting example - if I'd stayed with Win10, it'd be slammin', but then support would end relatively early in its life. So upgrade to 11, great, until the bloat overtakes it, as in my view it already began to with 23H2. Linux is the only way to solve this dilemma. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-13 17:52 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <vm48v6$23a1f$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #181321 |
Joel wrote: > CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >> On 2025-01-13 17:54, Joel wrote: >>> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>>> On 2025-01-13 16:32, Joel wrote: >>>>> MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> wrote: >>>>>> On 12/01/2025 23:23, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Windows is a great OS -- if your time is worth >>>>>>> nothing. >>>>>>> >>>>>> So which OS do you choose to expend your valuable time on? >>>>> >>>>> Linux is the only option worth pursuing. macOS is weird and >>>>> expensive, Windows is bloatware beyond belief. >>>> >>>> There's not much to pursue in MacOS. It works as it should and it is a >>>> fairly pleasant experience. However, I would agree that it's expensive. >>>> After a while, you'll need tools to do additional things and on MacOS, >>>> you're going to be paying money in most cases. Open-source is available >>>> for it too, mind you. >>> >>> I just dislike Windows and macOS, it might be my own opinion but it's >>> right for me. >> >> MacOS machines have a shelf life of about seven years before Apple >> decides that your machine is no longer worth supporting with updates. As >> we've seen, Windows machines get about seven, so it's a fair amount of >> time. However, Linux has them both beat with unlimited support no matter >> how pathetic the machine you're running it on is. > > > My machine is an interesting example - if I'd stayed with Win10, it'd > be slammin', but then support would end relatively early in its life. > So upgrade to 11, great, until the bloat overtakes it, as in my view > it already began to with 23H2. Linux is the only way to solve this > dilemma. > Indeed, linux is the only way to salvation.
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| From | vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> |
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| Date | 2025-01-15 00:30 +0000 |
| Subject | Cult of Unix (was: Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs) |
| Message-ID | <luodsdF6geaU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #181322 |
On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 17:52:05 -0600, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote in <vm48v6$23a1f$2@dont-email.me>: > Joel wrote: >> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>> On 2025-01-13 17:54, Joel wrote: >>>> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>>>> On 2025-01-13 16:32, Joel wrote: >>>>>> MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> wrote: >>>>>>> On 12/01/2025 23:23, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Windows is a great OS -- if your time is worth nothing. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> So which OS do you choose to expend your valuable time on? >>>>>> >>>>>> Linux is the only option worth pursuing. macOS is weird and >>>>>> expensive, Windows is bloatware beyond belief. >>>>> >>>>> There's not much to pursue in MacOS. It works as it should and it is >>>>> a fairly pleasant experience. However, I would agree that it's >>>>> expensive. >>>>> After a while, you'll need tools to do additional things and on >>>>> MacOS, you're going to be paying money in most cases. Open-source is >>>>> available for it too, mind you. >>>> >>>> I just dislike Windows and macOS, it might be my own opinion but it's >>>> right for me. >>> >>> MacOS machines have a shelf life of about seven years before Apple >>> decides that your machine is no longer worth supporting with updates. >>> As we've seen, Windows machines get about seven, so it's a fair amount >>> of time. However, Linux has them both beat with unlimited support no >>> matter how pathetic the machine you're running it on is. >> >> >> My machine is an interesting example - if I'd stayed with Win10, it'd >> be slammin', but then support would end relatively early in its life. >> So upgrade to 11, great, until the bloat overtakes it, as in my view it >> already began to with 23H2. Linux is the only way to solve this >> dilemma. >> >> > Indeed, linux is the only way to salvation. I'm glad you see the light, Brother Hank! https://cultnix.org/ (_Cult of Unix_ home page -- there's nothing there but a title with an animated gif, perhaps I should add some epistles? ;) ) ObWindows: Just navigated the backup mess in Windows 11 -- looks like one can set up periodic traditional backups in the control panel, but there's no options in the separate "cloud backup" tool except Microsoft's thing (Onedrive?). ObLinux: I also have to figure out why the virt didn't see any network shares, which would be the Samba instances on the local workstation and on my Synology Diskstation... And BTW, regarding Windows: I'm glad they've kept the control panel from Windows 7. -- -v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti OS: Linux 6.13.0-rc7 Release: Mint 21.3 Mem: 258G "The young know the rules, the old know the exceptions."
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| From | Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-14 20:05 -0600 |
| Subject | Re: Cult of Unix |
| Message-ID | <vm755l$2lqjk$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #181350 |
vallor wrote: > On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 17:52:05 -0600, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> > wrote in <vm48v6$23a1f$2@dont-email.me>: > >> Joel wrote: >>> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>>> On 2025-01-13 17:54, Joel wrote: >>>>> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>>>>> On 2025-01-13 16:32, Joel wrote: >>>>>>> MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> On 12/01/2025 23:23, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Windows is a great OS -- if your time is worth nothing. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So which OS do you choose to expend your valuable time on? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Linux is the only option worth pursuing. macOS is weird and >>>>>>> expensive, Windows is bloatware beyond belief. >>>>>> >>>>>> There's not much to pursue in MacOS. It works as it should and it is >>>>>> a fairly pleasant experience. However, I would agree that it's >>>>>> expensive. >>>>>> After a while, you'll need tools to do additional things and on >>>>>> MacOS, you're going to be paying money in most cases. Open-source is >>>>>> available for it too, mind you. >>>>> >>>>> I just dislike Windows and macOS, it might be my own opinion but it's >>>>> right for me. >>>> >>>> MacOS machines have a shelf life of about seven years before Apple >>>> decides that your machine is no longer worth supporting with updates. >>>> As we've seen, Windows machines get about seven, so it's a fair amount >>>> of time. However, Linux has them both beat with unlimited support no >>>> matter how pathetic the machine you're running it on is. >>> >>> >>> My machine is an interesting example - if I'd stayed with Win10, it'd >>> be slammin', but then support would end relatively early in its life. >>> So upgrade to 11, great, until the bloat overtakes it, as in my view it >>> already began to with 23H2. Linux is the only way to solve this >>> dilemma. >>> >>> >> Indeed, linux is the only way to salvation. > > I'm glad you see the light, Brother Hank! > > https://cultnix.org/ > > (_Cult of Unix_ home page -- there's nothing there but > a title with an animated gif, perhaps I should add some > epistles? ;) ) > > ObWindows: > > Just navigated the backup mess in Windows 11 -- I said the hell with windows backup long long ago. Even if it works perfectly What are the chances they'll change it? And once a month, updates can easily dork it. Microsoft constantly fiddles with everything, even if it's working perfectly. It's just what they do. I think people are better off to get some type of imaging software, written by people that are experts and specialize in that. I use macrium reflect, but there are several others just as good or better and most have a free version. Backup software is too important to trust microsoft.
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-15 03:16 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Cult of Unix |
| Message-ID | <vm7qsl$2sdu1$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #181351 |
On Tue, 1/14/2025 9:05 PM, Hank Rogers wrote: > vallor wrote: >> On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 17:52:05 -0600, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> >> wrote in <vm48v6$23a1f$2@dont-email.me>: >> >>> Joel wrote: >>>> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>>>> On 2025-01-13 17:54, Joel wrote: >>>>>> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>>>>>> On 2025-01-13 16:32, Joel wrote: >>>>>>>> MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 12/01/2025 23:23, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Windows is a great OS -- if your time is worth nothing. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So which OS do you choose to expend your valuable time on? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Linux is the only option worth pursuing. macOS is weird and >>>>>>>> expensive, Windows is bloatware beyond belief. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There's not much to pursue in MacOS. It works as it should and it is >>>>>>> a fairly pleasant experience. However, I would agree that it's >>>>>>> expensive. >>>>>>> After a while, you'll need tools to do additional things and on >>>>>>> MacOS, you're going to be paying money in most cases. Open-source is >>>>>>> available for it too, mind you. >>>>>> >>>>>> I just dislike Windows and macOS, it might be my own opinion but it's >>>>>> right for me. >>>>> >>>>> MacOS machines have a shelf life of about seven years before Apple >>>>> decides that your machine is no longer worth supporting with updates. >>>>> As we've seen, Windows machines get about seven, so it's a fair amount >>>>> of time. However, Linux has them both beat with unlimited support no >>>>> matter how pathetic the machine you're running it on is. >>>> >>>> >>>> My machine is an interesting example - if I'd stayed with Win10, it'd >>>> be slammin', but then support would end relatively early in its life. >>>> So upgrade to 11, great, until the bloat overtakes it, as in my view it >>>> already began to with 23H2. Linux is the only way to solve this >>>> dilemma. >>>> >>>> >>> Indeed, linux is the only way to salvation. >> >> I'm glad you see the light, Brother Hank! >> >> https://cultnix.org/ >> >> (_Cult of Unix_ home page -- there's nothing there but >> a title with an animated gif, perhaps I should add some >> epistles? ;) ) >> >> ObWindows: >> >> Just navigated the backup mess in Windows 11 -- > > I said the hell with windows backup long long ago. Even if it works perfectly What are the chances they'll change it? And once a month, updates can easily dork it. Microsoft constantly fiddles with everything, even if it's working perfectly. It's just what they do. > > I think people are better off to get some type of imaging software, written by people that are experts and specialize in that. I use macrium reflect, but there are several others just as good or better and most have a free version. Backup software is too important to trust microsoft. > On the Windows Backup, the backup seems to work better than the restore. The Macrium Reflect Free is quite a bit better. Paul
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| From | vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> |
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| Date | 2025-01-15 09:02 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Cult of Unix |
| Message-ID | <vm7tjr$2s8n2$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #181351 |
On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 20:05:34 -0600, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote in <vm755l$2lqjk$1@dont-email.me>: > vallor wrote: >> On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 17:52:05 -0600, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> >> wrote in <vm48v6$23a1f$2@dont-email.me>: >> >>> Joel wrote: >>>> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>>>> On 2025-01-13 17:54, Joel wrote: >>>>>> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>>>>>> On 2025-01-13 16:32, Joel wrote: >>>>>>>> MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 12/01/2025 23:23, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Windows is a great OS -- if your time is worth nothing. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So which OS do you choose to expend your valuable time on? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Linux is the only option worth pursuing. macOS is weird and >>>>>>>> expensive, Windows is bloatware beyond belief. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There's not much to pursue in MacOS. It works as it should and it is >>>>>>> a fairly pleasant experience. However, I would agree that it's >>>>>>> expensive. >>>>>>> After a while, you'll need tools to do additional things and on >>>>>>> MacOS, you're going to be paying money in most cases. Open-source is >>>>>>> available for it too, mind you. >>>>>> >>>>>> I just dislike Windows and macOS, it might be my own opinion but it's >>>>>> right for me. >>>>> >>>>> MacOS machines have a shelf life of about seven years before Apple >>>>> decides that your machine is no longer worth supporting with updates. >>>>> As we've seen, Windows machines get about seven, so it's a fair amount >>>>> of time. However, Linux has them both beat with unlimited support no >>>>> matter how pathetic the machine you're running it on is. >>>> >>>> >>>> My machine is an interesting example - if I'd stayed with Win10, it'd >>>> be slammin', but then support would end relatively early in its life. >>>> So upgrade to 11, great, until the bloat overtakes it, as in my view it >>>> already began to with 23H2. Linux is the only way to solve this >>>> dilemma. >>>> >>>> >>> Indeed, linux is the only way to salvation. >> >> I'm glad you see the light, Brother Hank! >> >> https://cultnix.org/ >> >> (_Cult of Unix_ home page -- there's nothing there but >> a title with an animated gif, perhaps I should add some >> epistles? ;) ) >> >> ObWindows: >> >> Just navigated the backup mess in Windows 11 -- > > I said the hell with windows backup long long ago. Even if it works > perfectly What are the chances they'll change it? And once a month, > updates can easily dork it. Microsoft constantly fiddles with > everything, even if it's working perfectly. It's just what they do. > > I think people are better off to get some type of imaging software, > written by people that are experts and specialize in that. I use > macrium reflect, but there are several others just as good or better and > most have a free version. Backup software is too important to trust > microsoft. Ordinarily I'd agree with you, but it's just a virtual host for testing things, and maybe building some Windows software -- anything of import goes on a network share, so if the virt goes Tango Uniform, I'll still have the data. Can't really test Windows very well without using their backup. I got backups working with an "E:" drive backed by an iSCSI initiator, then figured out how to set the backups to use the Samba share provided by a Synology Diskstation. As I wrote under separate cover: On Windows 11, the network login for the control-panel-style backups has to be prefixed with the workgroup name, e.g. "WORKGROUP\username". Also, h/t to Paul for his post last week(?) about how to remove BitLocker from a partition...there doesn't seem to be a way to do it from the GUI, nor would Windows 11 let me set up a partition without BL. (In PowerShell, I ran: manage-bde -off E: -- after that, I could get at the NTFS filesystem in the iSCSI partition in Linux.) -- -v
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| From | ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-15 11:10 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Cult of Unix |
| Message-ID | <vm8tn5$327cn$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #181351 |
Hank Rogers wrote on 1/14/25 7:05 PM: > vallor wrote: >> On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 17:52:05 -0600, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> >> wrote in <vm48v6$23a1f$2@dont-email.me>: >> >>> Joel wrote: >>>> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>>>> On 2025-01-13 17:54, Joel wrote: >>>>>> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>>>>>> On 2025-01-13 16:32, Joel wrote: >>>>>>>> MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 12/01/2025 23:23, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Windows is a great OS -- if your time is worth nothing. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So which OS do you choose to expend your valuable time on? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Linux is the only option worth pursuing. macOS is weird and >>>>>>>> expensive, Windows is bloatware beyond belief. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There's not much to pursue in MacOS. It works as it should and it is >>>>>>> a fairly pleasant experience. However, I would agree that it's >>>>>>> expensive. >>>>>>> After a while, you'll need tools to do additional things and on >>>>>>> MacOS, you're going to be paying money in most cases. Open-source is >>>>>>> available for it too, mind you. >>>>>> >>>>>> I just dislike Windows and macOS, it might be my own opinion but it's >>>>>> right for me. >>>>> >>>>> MacOS machines have a shelf life of about seven years before Apple >>>>> decides that your machine is no longer worth supporting with updates. >>>>> As we've seen, Windows machines get about seven, so it's a fair amount >>>>> of time. However, Linux has them both beat with unlimited support no >>>>> matter how pathetic the machine you're running it on is. >>>> >>>> >>>> My machine is an interesting example - if I'd stayed with Win10, it'd >>>> be slammin', but then support would end relatively early in its life. >>>> So upgrade to 11, great, until the bloat overtakes it, as in my view it >>>> already began to with 23H2. Linux is the only way to solve this >>>> dilemma. >>>> >>>> >>> Indeed, linux is the only way to salvation. >> >> I'm glad you see the light, Brother Hank! >> >> https://cultnix.org/ >> >> (_Cult of Unix_ home page -- there's nothing there but >> a title with an animated gif, perhaps I should add some >> epistles? ;) ) >> >> ObWindows: >> >> Just navigated the backup mess in Windows 11 -- > > I said the hell with windows backup long long ago. Even if it works > perfectly What are the chances they'll change it? And once a month, > updates can easily dork it. Microsoft constantly fiddles with everything, > even if it's working perfectly. It's just what they do. > > I think people are better off to get some type of imaging software, > written by people that are experts and specialize in that. I use macrium > reflect, but there are several others just as good or better and most > have a free version. Backup software is too important to trust microsoft. > Windows backup in Windows 10 and 11 is old Windows 7 code. - imo, it should be avoided. There are multiple free and fee version backup and imaging programs much better for imaging and restoration. Macrium Reflect Free EaseUs ToDo Backup Free AOMEI Backupper Standard Free Paragon Backup and Recovery Community Edition - Free -- ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-16 05:03 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Cult of Unix |
| Message-ID | <vma3u7$3cdmt$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #181351 |
On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 20:05:34 -0600, Hank Rogers wrote: > I think people are better off to get some type of imaging software ... On Linux systems, rsync works well. It’s essentially a bulk file-copying utility. That’s all you need to backup/restore Linux systems.
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| From | 🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈Jen🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 Dershmender 💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🐶笛🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 <root@127.0.0.1> |
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| Date | 2025-01-16 05:28 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: 🏳️🌈Cult of Unix🏳️🌈 |
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| In reply to | #181400 |
On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 05:03:04 -0000 (UTC), LO AND BEHOLD; Lawrence
D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> determined that the following was of great
importance to Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> and subsequently
decided to freely share it with us in <vma3u7$3cdmt$1@dont-email.me>:
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 20:05:34 -0600, Hank Rogers wrote:
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= I think people are better off to get some type of imaging software ...
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= On Linux systems, rsync works well. It’s essentially a bulk
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= file-copying utility. That’s all you need to backup/restore Linux
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= systems.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
That's what I've used for 25 years.
There are other backup methods with db backend that can use rsync. I wrote a proprietary in-house per-directory one using rsync to do the heavy lifting within an ssh shell.
You should try that.
HTH
--
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"Claiming that I "refuse to respect pronouns" is dead wrong. I respect them with everyone but "Jen" and "their" ilk, because "they" are a phony." - Scott Doty AKA Creon AKA Vallor AKA Doc Hammerhead declares why he ironically reserves the "right" to misgender others just like his MAGA bigot cohorts are wont to in Message-ID: <l54g7pF27huU2@mid.individual.net>
Message-ID: <nistjjhili8963p9l65oi962r3p4mktej5@4ax.com>
" And yet, one can still see the headers.
If you weren't so stupid, you would know how. I will try, and
likely fail, to dumb it down to your intellectual level.
To the right of the post there are three dots. Click on them. A
few options will appear. Click on "Show original message" and follow
the instructions as best your learning disability will permit.
If you still can't see the headers, there is nothing more I can
do. I cannot dumb this down any more than I have." - Kenito Wills, stupider than shit-stupid. (See: https://ibb.co/MVsRGqN)
"It's just like you to read all that, and come up a sick and clueless response like that one, totally unrelated to the point. It must get confusing to be intelligent enough to "sit at the best reading table in school," and fail to cobble together a basic understanding of what you've just read. The nasty side of you always manages to take control to guard your fragile ego, which explains why you never get along with people, and get visitors like Red Elephant who take the time and trouble to come by and embarrass you..." - <MPG.41696ec8ecc18ea4989796@usnews.blocknews.net> Jimbo responds to a yes/no question exactly as one might expect him to.
"Bullshit! You salivate over every word I write, then beg for more. Then when you realize that I've put you in another hole you can't worm your way out of... even if you did "sit at the best reading table in elementary school," YOU revert to pedo lames, because that's the best you can do. In fact, no one here has any interest in your obsession with pedo lames but you, because you're intellectually weak. In fact, you seem suspiciously obsessed with that topic. Maybe some day we'll find out why." - <MPG.4169de194a070345989798@usnews.blocknews.net> No Jim, I am not "obsessed" with what you did and concealed and continue to backpedal from.
https://groups.google.com/g/misc.legal/c/6FaoS9bawDI/m/Wdupq7BHaSkJ
"I've spoken against CPS many times. That I realize that they were 100% correct in regards to you doesn't mean I'm pro-CPS." - Kent Wills doesn't like Child Protection Services getting in his way of abusing children.
https://groups.google.com/g/misc.legal/c/AmluvRraNjg/m/gufYNdgK3E8J
"Greg has made it very clear he likes little girls. And not in a sexually healthy way." - Kent Wills believes that there's a "sexually healthy" way to be a pedophile.
"I'm actually glad it's out in the open now, it's a lot of weight to bear. Some will graciously accept that, and some probably won't. It makes it real easy to know who's worth regarding as a friend. Those few remaining haters hide behind socks... I wonder why?" - Checkmate AKA "Rick Sabian" AKA "Morphing Fuckwit" AKA "automatic tranny" AKA "jen der queer" AKA "livelong@and.prosper" AKA "FOAD <foad@grnail.corn>" AKA "Destiny <faghaitur@bucket.list>" AKA "DAVID KEETING <Squiggles@ass.worm>" AKA "f4c3411 <f3c4L@f37l5h.corn>" AKA "<"Hunter's Dildo <RumPPumPPa@uPPa.yOOaSS>" >" AKA "Mustafa Sheboygan" AKA "Peter, the Booty Judge" <root@127.0.0.1> AKA "Mund Harmonika <root@127.0.0.1>" AKA "Mundharmonika <root@127.0.0.1>" AKA "% <%@hotmale.com>" AKA "Checkmate <trouble@soon.corn>" AKA "Mundharmonika <R00T@MOUTH.ORGAN>" AKA "Mundharmonika <R00T@127.O.O.1>" AKA "Tard Wrangler <youknowit@alphamale.corn>" hates when people hate pedo rapists. He wants friends who like pedo rapists. Write that down and don't forget it! <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.checkmate/c/2VcCBNwMdeo/m/A0wpvxZRAAAJ>
"I think we should destroy every last fucking mosque in America." - "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> proves for us that white males are violent in Message-ID: <MPG.32c5bfefd18c9a698f0a8@news.altopia.com>
"Yeah, but you think everybody's Greg. There are a couple people here who can't resist responding to everything the aSSwurm or the Pussy Willow says. It does me no good to plonk aSSwurm and Pussy Willow if I still have to wade through a hundred inane posts a day involving those two assholes, so now I've plonked the chronic responders as well. They'll figure it out, and then they can make a choice... exchange stupid drivel with those two, or have more intelligent and interesting conversations with me. I know damned well Greg got sick of all that shit, and now I'm sick of it too. Those who choose to get led around by the lowest common denominator are fucking up AC and every other group they play that game in. If that's the kind of Usenet they want, they can wallow in the same slop as the two retards elsewhere, because they're only contributing to fucking this group up too. I can take or leave this shit, because I have plenty to keep me occupied with my room addition project, and it's a hell of a lot more rewarding than exchanging baby talk with the likes of the aSSwurm. May his fucking worthless AIDS-infested carcass drop fucking dead ASAP and quit wasting oxygen. To sum it up, talk to those two idiots elsewhere, or they'll probably be the only people left to talk to here." One can only presume that Jim and Creon/Vallor have solved this problem and are together in a private chat "having more intelligent and interesting conversations" instead of these "Civil" calls for shunning and authoritative control of discussion. As Seen on TV : <MPG.35cd7d50e1b224b1994604@news.altopia.com>
"I'm pretty sure all gods are fictional, I'm smart enough to not proclaim I know this." - Kwills is only smart enough to doubt himself while arguing that a belief in imaginary made-up gods can't just be ignored as "mental illness" in <mo4q0j9tcqjt68s039loiacrbarihsh9i5@4ax.com>
"If you worried half as much about your own personal life as you do everyone else's, you might almost be tolerable, obsessed stalker." -James "Checkmate" Gorman, in perhaps the most ironic and mentally-challenged statement ever made on Usenet. <MPG.4001ba2c14cace6c98cb6f@usnews.blocknews.net>
"Trying to diminish others doesn't make you look any better. In fact, it does quite the opposite. Why are you always so bitter and angry? Do you have AIDS or something like so many other tranny girls do?" -James "Checkmate" Gorman in <MPG.405409befd41f28898969d@test.blocknews.net>
"You should see my archive on you" -James "Checkmate" Gorman teases us with his "dosser" in <MPG.3eea81b23145043b98c338@usnews.blocknews.net>
"Sorry, nothing to see here. The joint wasn't as bad as they say, but I'm not looking to go back. I'm a model citizen, clean as a whistle. I've owned my own home for 12 years, owned my own business almost as long, don't bother anyone and they don't bother me. You have nothing in any "police report" pertaining to me. Don't you think they would have "come a-knockin" a long time ago if they had any reason to? You're delusional and paranoid, and I have to wonder why.
Oh... I should mention that there are a LOT of trannies in prison. I don't know why, but there are. The State even has to give them hormone shots for their tiddies at taxpayer's expense, and they wear bras and panties. I found everything about them revolting. That's why the whole "Bubba" thing is almost completely a myth, except in cell living. That shit wouldn't fly in a 100-man dorm, but trust me, those little trollops find ways to serve the willing when the lights go out. You see something, you keep your mouth shut about it because that way you don't get in a wreck. I never partook in such activities because the whole idea is just repulsive. I think that's a big part of what I don't like about you. I've seen how they act and I've talked to a few... total drama queens in every sense." -James "Checkmate" Gorman reminisces about prison in <MPG.3ceb37c2eddbaff98b07a@usnews.blocknews.net>
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-16 10:34 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Cult of Unix |
| Message-ID | <vmb8t8$3id01$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #181400 |
On Thu, 1/16/2025 12:03 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 20:05:34 -0600, Hank Rogers wrote: > >> I think people are better off to get some type of imaging software ... > > On Linux systems, rsync works well. It’s essentially a bulk file-copying > utility. That’s all you need to backup/restore Linux systems. > With Macrium, I can back up FAT32, NTFS, ExFAT, and ... EXT4. This means when I image a dual-boot disk drive here, it is a *complete* image. I can restore it to a brand new hard drive, and it boots as if nothing had happened. As long as my Linux installs use EXT4 for slash, I'm fine and one imaging tool does everything for me. The imaging is "smart". in that busy clusters and busy inodes are backed up, not white space. If I have 20GB of files on a 1TB EXT4, the backup image is a bit bigger than 20GB but not by much. Similarly, if I back up 20GB of files on a 1TB NTFS, the output is not much bigger than 20GB. And the NTFS and EXT4 can sit in the same MRIMG file, there is no segregation involved and separate files for them. It's all in a single file. Macrium even backs up the 16MB Microsoft Reserved, which has no file system. It does that using the equivalent of "dd", but it does not throw a wobbly and complain about what it has been asked to do. It puts that back on a restore. Details and automation, are the key to push-button success. Paul
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| From | vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> |
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| Date | 2025-01-16 16:04 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Cult of Unix |
| Message-ID | <lusp13Frb66U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #181423 |
On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 10:34:01 -0500, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote in <vmb8t8$3id01$1@dont-email.me>: > On Thu, 1/16/2025 12:03 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 20:05:34 -0600, Hank Rogers wrote: >> >>> I think people are better off to get some type of imaging software ... >> >> On Linux systems, rsync works well. It’s essentially a bulk >> file-copying utility. That’s all you need to backup/restore Linux >> systems. >> >> > With Macrium, I can back up FAT32, NTFS, ExFAT, and ... EXT4. This means > when I image a dual-boot disk drive here, it is a *complete* image. I > can restore it to a brand new hard drive, > and it boots as if nothing had happened. > > As long as my Linux installs use EXT4 for slash, I'm fine and one > imaging tool does everything for me. > > The imaging is "smart". in that busy clusters and busy inodes are backed > up, not white space. If I have 20GB of files on a 1TB EXT4, the backup > image is a bit bigger than 20GB but not by much. Similarly, if I back up > 20GB of files on a 1TB NTFS, the output is not much bigger than 20GB. > And the NTFS and EXT4 can sit in the same MRIMG file, > there is no segregation involved and separate files for them. It's all > in a single file. > > Macrium even backs up the 16MB Microsoft Reserved, which has no file > system. It does that using the equivalent of "dd", but it does not throw > a wobbly and complain about what it has been asked to do. It puts that > back on a restore. > > Details and automation, are the key to push-button success. > > Paul I'm sure Macrium Reflect is a fine bit of software, but I wonder about the wisdom of imaging a mounted partition. I think the only way to do that safely would be to boot to a USB stick -- that way, you aren't trying to image mounted filesystems. It's also not something I can run on Linux. Timeshift on Linux Mint uses rsync or btrfs snapshots. (I'm using ext4, so I use it with rsync.) But this discussion did get me to dig into Timeshift's exclusion list, and have it include the Windows 11 "C:" image file in backups. So I have that now, as well as the backups within the Windows 11 virtual host itself. Belt and suspenders. -- -v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti OS: Linux 6.12.9 Release: Mint 21.3 Mem: 258G "Give me ambiguity or give me something else!"
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| From | Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-16 14:48 -0600 |
| Subject | Re: Cult of Unix |
| Message-ID | <vmbrbq$3ln7i$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #181426 |
vallor wrote: > On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 10:34:01 -0500, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote in > <vmb8t8$3id01$1@dont-email.me>: > >> On Thu, 1/16/2025 12:03 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>> On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 20:05:34 -0600, Hank Rogers wrote: >>> >>>> I think people are better off to get some type of imaging software ... >>> >>> On Linux systems, rsync works well. It’s essentially a bulk >>> file-copying utility. That’s all you need to backup/restore Linux >>> systems. >>> >>> >> With Macrium, I can back up FAT32, NTFS, ExFAT, and ... EXT4. This means >> when I image a dual-boot disk drive here, it is a *complete* image. I >> can restore it to a brand new hard drive, >> and it boots as if nothing had happened. >> >> As long as my Linux installs use EXT4 for slash, I'm fine and one >> imaging tool does everything for me. >> >> The imaging is "smart". in that busy clusters and busy inodes are backed >> up, not white space. If I have 20GB of files on a 1TB EXT4, the backup >> image is a bit bigger than 20GB but not by much. Similarly, if I back up >> 20GB of files on a 1TB NTFS, the output is not much bigger than 20GB. >> And the NTFS and EXT4 can sit in the same MRIMG file, >> there is no segregation involved and separate files for them. It's all >> in a single file. >> >> Macrium even backs up the 16MB Microsoft Reserved, which has no file >> system. It does that using the equivalent of "dd", but it does not throw >> a wobbly and complain about what it has been asked to do. It puts that >> back on a restore. >> >> Details and automation, are the key to push-button success. >> >> Paul > > I'm sure Macrium Reflect is a fine bit of software, but I wonder > about the wisdom of imaging a mounted partition. I think the only > way to do that safely would be to boot to a USB stick -- that way, > you aren't trying to image mounted filesystems. > It works just fine on a running windows system. It uses Volume shadow service. I'm pretty sure most other backup software can also work while windows is running.
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-16 18:06 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Cult of Unix |
| Message-ID | <vmc3cq$3n232$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #181438 |
On Thu, 1/16/2025 3:48 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
> vallor wrote:
>> On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 10:34:01 -0500, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote in
>> <vmb8t8$3id01$1@dont-email.me>:
>>
>>> On Thu, 1/16/2025 12:03 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 20:05:34 -0600, Hank Rogers wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think people are better off to get some type of imaging software ...
>>>>
>>>> On Linux systems, rsync works well. It’s essentially a bulk
>>>> file-copying utility. That’s all you need to backup/restore Linux
>>>> systems.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> With Macrium, I can back up FAT32, NTFS, ExFAT, and ... EXT4. This means
>>> when I image a dual-boot disk drive here, it is a *complete* image. I
>>> can restore it to a brand new hard drive,
>>> and it boots as if nothing had happened.
>>>
>>> As long as my Linux installs use EXT4 for slash, I'm fine and one
>>> imaging tool does everything for me.
>>>
>>> The imaging is "smart". in that busy clusters and busy inodes are backed
>>> up, not white space. If I have 20GB of files on a 1TB EXT4, the backup
>>> image is a bit bigger than 20GB but not by much. Similarly, if I back up
>>> 20GB of files on a 1TB NTFS, the output is not much bigger than 20GB.
>>> And the NTFS and EXT4 can sit in the same MRIMG file,
>>> there is no segregation involved and separate files for them. It's all
>>> in a single file.
>>>
>>> Macrium even backs up the 16MB Microsoft Reserved, which has no file
>>> system. It does that using the equivalent of "dd", but it does not throw
>>> a wobbly and complain about what it has been asked to do. It puts that
>>> back on a restore.
>>>
>>> Details and automation, are the key to push-button success.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>
>> I'm sure Macrium Reflect is a fine bit of software, but I wonder
>> about the wisdom of imaging a mounted partition. I think the only
>> way to do that safely would be to boot to a USB stick -- that way,
>> you aren't trying to image mounted filesystems.
>>
>
> It works just fine on a running windows system. It uses Volume shadow service. I'm pretty sure most other backup software can also work while windows is running.
>
They *all* use that.
That's because setting a shadow is so easy,
even home users can do one manually.
You can freeze a copy of C: for example, and
run a Robocopy over it.
*******
$ wbAdmin start backup -backupTarget:D: -allCritical # "Windows 7 Backup.exe" run time 3 minutes.
Retrieving volume information...
This will back up (EFI System Partition),W11HOME(C:),(\\?\Volume{c3bc5ab1-c5f0-4dae-838c-751ef868e237}\) to D:.
The backup operation to D: is starting.
Creating a shadow copy of the volumes specified for backup... <=== VSS (C: partition)
Creating a shadow copy of the volumes specified for backup... <=== VSS (Recovery partition )
Creating a backup of volume (EFI System Partition) (100.00 MB), copied (0%).
...
The backup of volume (EFI System Partition) (100.00 MB) completed successfully.
Creating a backup of volume W11HOME(C:), copied (0%).
...
Creating a backup of volume W11HOME(C:), copied (95%).
The backup of volume W11HOME(C:) completed successfully.
The backup of volume (649.00 MB) completed successfully.
Summary of the backup operation:
------------------
The backup operation successfully completed.
The backup of volume (EFI System Partition) (100.00 MB) completed successfully.
The backup of volume W11HOME(C:) completed successfully.
The backup of volume (649.00 MB) completed successfully.
Log of files successfully backed up:
C:\WINDOWS\Logs\WindowsBackup\Backup-16-01-2025_22-52-06.log
$ dir *.vhdx
Directory of D:\WindowsImageBackup\WALLACE\Backup 2025-01-16 225206
Thu, 01/16/2025 05:55 PM 72,240,594,944 0bd6166a-0836-4041-891c-792df2c72abd.vhdx <=== C: partition
Thu, 01/16/2025 05:55 PM 620,756,992 c3bc5ab1-c5f0-4dae-838c-751ef868e237.vhdx <=== Recovery partition
Thu, 01/16/2025 05:55 PM 60,817,408 Esp.vhdx <=== FAT32 boot materials
It's too bad the restore didn't run smooth like that.
But that's just to demonstrate that programs use shadows.
Even disk2vhd from Russinovich, I think that sets a shadow too.
Paul
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-17 02:49 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Cult of Unix |
| Message-ID | <vmcgfd$3osq8$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #181456 |
On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 18:06:00 -0500, Paul wrote: > You can freeze a copy of C: for example, and run a Robocopy over it. Until you hit the limitations of Windows and Robocopy, and have to give up on it and use Linux instead. <https://www.theregister.com/2010/09/24/sysadmin_file_tools/>
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