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| Started by | "Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> |
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| First post | 2020-07-13 15:25 +0100 |
| Last post | 2020-07-18 00:20 +0100 |
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Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? "Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> - 2020-07-13 15:25 +0100
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-13 07:30 -0700
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? Avila Kap <kap0utox01@jamaica.com> - 2020-07-13 07:44 -0700
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? "Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> - 2020-07-13 15:56 +0100
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2020-07-14 10:38 -0500
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? "Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> - 2020-07-14 20:40 +0100
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-14 19:53 +0000
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? Avila Kap <kap0utox01@jamaica.com> - 2020-07-14 13:29 -0700
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? "Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> - 2020-07-14 23:02 +0100
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? hah <hah@no.email.stupid.invalid> - 2020-07-15 12:37 -0500
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? "Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> - 2020-07-13 16:07 +0100
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-13 08:36 -0700
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? "Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> - 2020-07-13 17:08 +0100
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? Chris Elvidge <chris@mshome.net> - 2020-07-13 17:05 +0100
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? "Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> - 2020-07-13 17:10 +0100
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? Ralph Fox <-rf-nz-@-.invalid> - 2020-07-14 06:26 +1200
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? "Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> - 2020-07-13 19:33 +0100
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2020-07-14 10:37 -0500
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? "Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> - 2020-07-14 20:39 +0100
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2020-07-14 16:04 -0400
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? "Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> - 2020-07-14 23:06 +0100
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? "\"Colonel Edmund J. Burke\" <\"l:nopzmysnusa?xe\"@blkz[.com" - 2020-07-15 10:48 -0700
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? "Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> - 2020-07-15 23:07 +0100
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? "wasbit" <wasbitREMOVE@hotmail.com> - 2020-07-16 10:06 +0100
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? "Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> - 2020-07-16 18:56 +0100
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-16 17:08 -0700
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? "Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> - 2020-07-24 20:49 +0100
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? MajorLanGod <lonelydad58@gmail.com> - 2020-07-26 17:38 +0000
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? "Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> - 2020-07-26 19:54 +0100
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-26 14:59 -0400
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? "Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> - 2020-08-10 19:50 +0100
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2020-08-11 11:50 -0500
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-11 13:08 -0400
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? "Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> - 2020-08-11 18:33 +0100
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2020-08-11 21:06 -0500
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? "Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> - 2020-08-12 18:11 +0100
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-12 13:14 -0400
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2020-08-12 12:35 -0500
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2020-08-12 12:24 -0500
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? "Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> - 2020-08-13 00:54 +0100
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-12 20:25 -0400
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? "Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> - 2020-08-11 18:32 +0100
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? "wasbit" <wasbitREMOVE@hotmail.com> - 2020-07-17 09:50 +0100
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-17 08:58 +0000
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-17 13:13 +0100
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-17 14:17 +0000
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? "Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> - 2020-07-28 22:14 +0100
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-28 14:21 -0700
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? "Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> - 2020-07-29 00:50 +0100
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-28 17:06 -0700
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? "Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> - 2020-08-15 21:01 +0100
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? MajorLanGod <lonelydad58@gmail.com> - 2020-08-15 23:47 +0000
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2020-08-15 17:16 -0700
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-15 20:58 -0400
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? "Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> - 2020-08-16 21:18 +0100
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-17 07:10 -0400
Re: Troll-feeding Senile ASSHOLE Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2020-08-17 16:11 +0200
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2020-08-16 14:43 -0400
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? soup <cheesesoupnews@hotmail.com> - 2020-08-17 09:52 +0100
Re: Troll-feeding Senile HUGE ASSHOLE Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2020-08-17 12:03 +0200
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? "Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> - 2020-08-15 21:01 +0100
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-08-15 20:29 +0000
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? "Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> - 2020-08-16 00:22 +0100
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-08-15 23:30 +0000
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? "Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> - 2020-08-16 21:33 +0100
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-08-16 20:42 +0000
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? "Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> - 2020-08-16 22:21 +0100
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-08-16 21:33 +0000
Re: Troll-feeding Senile ASSHOLE Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2020-08-16 23:41 +0200
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? "Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> - 2020-08-16 23:22 +0100
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-08-17 00:01 +0000
Re: Troll-feeding Senile ASSHOLE Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2020-08-17 10:27 +0200
Re: Troll-feeding Senile ASSHOLE Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2020-08-16 23:39 +0200
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2020-08-16 16:59 -0400
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? "Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> - 2020-08-16 22:19 +0100
Re: Troll-feeding Senile ASSHOLES Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2020-08-16 23:44 +0200
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? Chris Elvidge <chris@mshome.net> - 2020-07-29 11:07 +0100
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? "Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> - 2020-08-14 21:31 +0100
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? "Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> - 2020-07-28 22:15 +0100
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-28 14:18 -0700
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? "Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> - 2020-07-29 00:50 +0100
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-28 18:20 -0700
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? "Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> - 2020-08-14 21:30 +0100
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-08-14 20:34 +0000
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? "Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> - 2020-08-14 21:54 +0100
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? Jim H <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2020-07-15 14:37 +0000
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? "Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> - 2020-07-16 20:11 +0100
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? Jim H <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2020-07-17 15:07 +0000
Re: Turn off data and only leave power on USB port? "Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> - 2020-07-18 00:20 +0100
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2020-08-12 20:25 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <120820202025175256%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #119635 |
In article <op.0o9gousawdg98l@glass>, Commander Kinsey <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> wrote: > > Try VKWorld. A quarter of the price of Samsung with the same specs. > Samsung is now overpriced like Apple. not the same specs.
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| From | "Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> |
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| Date | 2020-08-11 18:32 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <op.0o64cia1wdg98l@glass> |
| In reply to | #119483 |
On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 17:50:26 +0100, Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> wrote: > On 8/10/20 1:50 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote: > > [snip] > >>> usb negotiates power over the data lines, so such devices will not >>> properly work with usb compliant devices. >> >> I don't think many devices use that. I own about one. > > I used to have a phone that wouldn't charge using a normal USB cable, > only a "charge only" cable. That's ridiculous. All but one of my devices take as much power as they want, presumably limited by the power supply by the voltage falling a bit when they try to take too much. One of my devices only takes 500mA from a 1A supply, but 2A from a 2A supply. So either it's being OCD and wants some handshaking first, or it doesn't have a 1A mode. Pretty annoying as it consumes 500mA when running, and you can't charge it without it turning on the display to tell you it's charging, so on a 1A supply, the battery doesn't charge, it uses all the power it takes to tell me it's charging.
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| From | "wasbit" <wasbitREMOVE@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-07-17 09:50 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <reror4$upa$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #117625 |
"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> wrote in message news:op.0nuz31pgwdg98l@glass... > On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 10:06:45 +0100, wasbit <wasbitREMOVE@hotmail.com> > wrote: > >>>>>> On 7/13/20 9:25 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote: >>>>>>> How do I make a USB port in Windows 10 just provide power and not a >>>>>>> data connection? For example my satnav has a low battery and I just >>>>>>> want to use it indoors. But when it sees the PC, it just becomes a >>>>>>> removable drive and I can't use it. >>>>>> >> >> Sorry, missed the OP >> >> DIY Perks explains the difference between a host & sub modes, >> - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl1UPoYSAow > > Er.... that's a video about electric bikes. > Nope. It's about adding an external LED light to a smart phone using the USB port for power. Dunno what you were watching. -- Regards wasbit
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2020-07-17 08:58 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <hnd7ifFcd70U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #117690 |
wasbit <wasbitREMOVE@hotmail.com> wrote: > "Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> wrote in message > news:op.0nuz31pgwdg98l@glass... >> On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 10:06:45 +0100, wasbit <wasbitREMOVE@hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>>>>>> On 7/13/20 9:25 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote: >>>>>>>> How do I make a USB port in Windows 10 just provide power and not a >>>>>>>> data connection? For example my satnav has a low battery and I just >>>>>>>> want to use it indoors. But when it sees the PC, it just becomes a >>>>>>>> removable drive and I can't use it. >>>>>>> >>> >>> Sorry, missed the OP >>> >>> DIY Perks explains the difference between a host & sub modes, >>> - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl1UPoYSAow >> >> Er.... that's a video about electric bikes. >> > > Nope. It's about adding an external LED light to a smart phone using the USB > port for power. > > Dunno what you were watching. > That’s what I saw, too. YouTube is getting sorta insane with ads these days — maybe he saw an ad and got confused? -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
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| From | David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> |
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| Date | 2020-07-17 13:13 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <LBgQG.107686$865.67235@fx19.ams1> |
| In reply to | #117692 |
On 17/07/2020 09:58, Snit wrote: > wasbit <wasbitREMOVE@hotmail.com> wrote: >> "Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> wrote in message >> news:op.0nuz31pgwdg98l@glass... >>> On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 10:06:45 +0100, wasbit <wasbitREMOVE@hotmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>>>>> On 7/13/20 9:25 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote: >>>>>>>>> How do I make a USB port in Windows 10 just provide power and not a >>>>>>>>> data connection? For example my satnav has a low battery and I just >>>>>>>>> want to use it indoors. But when it sees the PC, it just becomes a >>>>>>>>> removable drive and I can't use it. >>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> Sorry, missed the OP >>>> >>>> DIY Perks explains the difference between a host & sub modes, >>>> - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl1UPoYSAow >>> >>> Er.... that's a video about electric bikes. >>> >> >> Nope. It's about adding an external LED light to a smart phone using the USB >> port for power. >> >> Dunno what you were watching. >> > > That’s what I saw, too. > > YouTube is getting sorta insane with ads these days — maybe he saw an ad > and got confused? I actually WATCHED the add for a new conversion kit to make one's bike electrified! I ALSO watched the bright light add-on for Android 'phones!
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2020-07-17 14:17 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <hndq7qFas43U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #117697 |
On Jul 17, 2020 at 5:13:30 AM MST, "David_B" <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: > On 17/07/2020 09:58, Snit wrote: >> wasbit <wasbitREMOVE@hotmail.com> wrote: >>> "Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> wrote in message >>> news:op.0nuz31pgwdg98l@glass... >>>> On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 10:06:45 +0100, wasbit <wasbitREMOVE@hotmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>>>>> On 7/13/20 9:25 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote: >>>>>>>>>> How do I make a USB port in Windows 10 just provide power and not a >>>>>>>>>> data connection? For example my satnav has a low battery and I just >>>>>>>>>> want to use it indoors. But when it sees the PC, it just becomes a >>>>>>>>>> removable drive and I can't use it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sorry, missed the OP >>>>> >>>>> DIY Perks explains the difference between a host & sub modes, >>>>> - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl1UPoYSAow >>>> >>>> Er.... that's a video about electric bikes. >>>> >>> >>> Nope. It's about adding an external LED light to a smart phone using the USB >>> port for power. >>> >>> Dunno what you were watching. >>> >> >> That’s what I saw, too. >> >> YouTube is getting sorta insane with ads these days — maybe he saw an ad >> and got confused? > > I actually WATCHED the add for a new conversion kit to make one's bike > electrified! > > I ALSO watched the bright light add-on for Android 'phones! I had a different ad, but it made sense that what I described *might* be happening and had led to the confusion. Thanks for verifying. Seems almost certain now. YouTube has changed how they work with ads over the last few days. For example, the in-view ads now show for not just 10 minute videos but also for 8-minute, but also seems they have pushed more ads at the start. Now it is more likely i will just download videos I want to watch. Of course that means the content creator does not get their ad revenue, but as the ads become more and more obtrusive that is what YouTube is promoting. I certainly have no issue with anyone bypassing ads for MY videos. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
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| From | "Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> |
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| Date | 2020-07-28 22:14 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <op.0ohhamuwwdg98l@glass> |
| In reply to | #117705 |
On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 15:17:31 +0100, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote: > On Jul 17, 2020 at 5:13:30 AM MST, "David_B" <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> > wrote: > >> On 17/07/2020 09:58, Snit wrote: >>> wasbit <wasbitREMOVE@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> "Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> wrote in message >>>> news:op.0nuz31pgwdg98l@glass... >>>>> On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 10:06:45 +0100, wasbit <wasbitREMOVE@hotmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 7/13/20 9:25 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> How do I make a USB port in Windows 10 just provide power and not a >>>>>>>>>>> data connection? For example my satnav has a low battery and I just >>>>>>>>>>> want to use it indoors. But when it sees the PC, it just becomes a >>>>>>>>>>> removable drive and I can't use it. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sorry, missed the OP >>>>>> >>>>>> DIY Perks explains the difference between a host & sub modes, >>>>>> - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl1UPoYSAow >>>>> >>>>> Er.... that's a video about electric bikes. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Nope. It's about adding an external LED light to a smart phone using the USB >>>> port for power. >>>> >>>> Dunno what you were watching. >>>> >>> >>> That’s what I saw, too. >>> >>> YouTube is getting sorta insane with ads these days — maybe he saw an ad >>> and got confused? >> >> I actually WATCHED the add for a new conversion kit to make one's bike >> electrified! >> >> I ALSO watched the bright light add-on for Android 'phones! > > I had a different ad, but it made sense that what I described *might* be > happening and had led to the confusion. Thanks for verifying. Seems almost > certain now. > > YouTube has changed how they work with ads over the last few days. For > example, the in-view ads now show for not just 10 minute videos but also for > 8-minute, but also seems they have pushed more ads at the start. Now it is > more likely i will just download videos I want to watch. Of course that means > the content creator does not get their ad revenue, but as the ads become more > and more obtrusive that is what YouTube is promoting. I certainly have no > issue with anyone bypassing ads for MY videos. If you turn off monetization for your videos, does that not disable ads?
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2020-07-28 14:21 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <hobj6bFq512U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #118434 |
On 7/28/20 2:14 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote: > On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 15:17:31 +0100, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> > wrote: > >> On Jul 17, 2020 at 5:13:30 AM MST, "David_B" <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> >> wrote: >> >>> On 17/07/2020 09:58, Snit wrote: >>>> wasbit <wasbitREMOVE@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>> "Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> wrote in message >>>>> news:op.0nuz31pgwdg98l@glass... >>>>>> On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 10:06:45 +0100, wasbit <wasbitREMOVE@hotmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 7/13/20 9:25 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> How do I make a USB port in Windows 10 just provide power >>>>>>>>>>>> and not a >>>>>>>>>>>> data connection? For example my satnav has a low battery and >>>>>>>>>>>> I just >>>>>>>>>>>> want to use it indoors. But when it sees the PC, it just >>>>>>>>>>>> becomes a >>>>>>>>>>>> removable drive and I can't use it. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sorry, missed the OP >>>>>>> >>>>>>> DIY Perks explains the difference between a host & sub modes, >>>>>>> - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl1UPoYSAow >>>>>> >>>>>> Er.... that's a video about electric bikes. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Nope. It's about adding an external LED light to a smart phone >>>>> using the USB >>>>> port for power. >>>>> >>>>> Dunno what you were watching. >>>>> >>>> >>>> That’s what I saw, too. >>>> >>>> YouTube is getting sorta insane with ads these days — maybe he >>>> saw an ad and got confused? >>> >>> I actually WATCHED the add for a new conversion kit to make one's >>> bike electrified! >>> >>> I ALSO watched the bright light add-on for Android 'phones! >> >> I had a different ad, but it made sense that what I described >> *might* be happening and had led to the confusion. Thanks for >> verifying. Seems almost certain now. >> >> YouTube has changed how they work with ads over the last few days. >> For example, the in-view ads now show for not just 10 minute videos >> but also for 8-minute, but also seems they have pushed more ads at >> the start. Now it is more likely i will just download videos I want >> to watch. Of course that means the content creator does not get >> their ad revenue, but as the ads become more and more obtrusive >> that is what YouTube is promoting. I certainly have no issue with >> anyone bypassing ads for MY videos. > > If you turn off monetization for your videos, does that not disable > ads? Yes, or at least I think so. At the very least you get fewer ads. But I have no issue with people getting ad money, just get it when folks want to bypass any ads on my videos. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
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| From | "Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> |
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| Date | 2020-07-29 00:50 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <op.0ohoh0bhwdg98l@glass> |
| In reply to | #118438 |
On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 22:21:15 +0100, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote: > > On 7/28/20 2:14 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote: >> On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 15:17:31 +0100, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> >> wrote: >> >>> On Jul 17, 2020 at 5:13:30 AM MST, "David_B" <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 17/07/2020 09:58, Snit wrote: >>>>> wasbit <wasbitREMOVE@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> "Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> wrote in message >>>>>> news:op.0nuz31pgwdg98l@glass... >>>>>>> On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 10:06:45 +0100, wasbit <wasbitREMOVE@hotmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/13/20 9:25 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> How do I make a USB port in Windows 10 just provide power >>>>>>>>>>>>> and not a >>>>>>>>>>>>> data connection? For example my satnav has a low battery and >>>>>>>>>>>>> I just >>>>>>>>>>>>> want to use it indoors. But when it sees the PC, it just >>>>>>>>>>>>> becomes a >>>>>>>>>>>>> removable drive and I can't use it. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sorry, missed the OP >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> DIY Perks explains the difference between a host & sub modes, >>>>>>>> - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl1UPoYSAow >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Er.... that's a video about electric bikes. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Nope. It's about adding an external LED light to a smart phone >>>>>> using the USB >>>>>> port for power. >>>>>> >>>>>> Dunno what you were watching. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> That’s what I saw, too. >>>>> >>>>> YouTube is getting sorta insane with ads these days — maybe he >>>>> saw an ad and got confused? >>>> >>>> I actually WATCHED the add for a new conversion kit to make one's >>>> bike electrified! >>>> >>>> I ALSO watched the bright light add-on for Android 'phones! >>> >>> I had a different ad, but it made sense that what I described >>> *might* be happening and had led to the confusion. Thanks for >>> verifying. Seems almost certain now. >>> >>> YouTube has changed how they work with ads over the last few days. >>> For example, the in-view ads now show for not just 10 minute videos >>> but also for 8-minute, but also seems they have pushed more ads at >>> the start. Now it is more likely i will just download videos I want >>> to watch. Of course that means the content creator does not get >>> their ad revenue, but as the ads become more and more obtrusive >>> that is what YouTube is promoting. I certainly have no issue with >>> anyone bypassing ads for MY videos. >> >> If you turn off monetization for your videos, does that not disable >> ads? > > Yes, or at least I think so. At the very least you get fewer ads. ARGH! I hate the word fewer. It has no different meaning than "less". > But I have no issue with people getting ad money, just get it when folks want > to bypass any ads on my videos. I have a problem with ads when I'm trying to watch the video. I give them a thumbs down and a rude comment.
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2020-07-28 17:06 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <hobss6Fs2udU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #118440 |
On 7/28/20 4:50 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote: > On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 22:21:15 +0100, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> > wrote: > >> >> On 7/28/20 2:14 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote: >>> On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 15:17:31 +0100, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Jul 17, 2020 at 5:13:30 AM MST, "David_B" <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 17/07/2020 09:58, Snit wrote: >>>>>> wasbit <wasbitREMOVE@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> "Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:op.0nuz31pgwdg98l@glass... >>>>>>>> On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 10:06:45 +0100, wasbit >>>>>>>> <wasbitREMOVE@hotmail..com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/13/20 9:25 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> How do I make a USB port in Windows 10 just provide power >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and not a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> data connection? For example my satnav has a low battery and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just >>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to use it indoors. But when it sees the PC, it just >>>>>>>>>>>>>> becomes a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> removable drive and I can't use it. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sorry, missed the OP >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> DIY Perks explains the difference between a host & sub modes, >>>>>>>>> - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl1UPoYSAow >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Er.... that's a video about electric bikes. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nope. It's about adding an external LED light to a smart phone >>>>>>> using the USB >>>>>>> port for power. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dunno what you were watching. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> That’s what I saw, too. >>>>>> >>>>>> YouTube is getting sorta insane with ads these days — maybe he >>>>>> saw an ad and got confused? >>>>> >>>>> I actually WATCHED the add for a new conversion kit to make one's >>>>> bike electrified! >>>>> >>>>> I ALSO watched the bright light add-on for Android 'phones! >>>> >>>> I had a different ad, but it made sense that what I described >>>> *might* be happening and had led to the confusion. Thanks for >>>> verifying. Seems almost certain now. >>>> >>>> YouTube has changed how they work with ads over the last few days. >>>> For example, the in-view ads now show for not just 10 minute videos >>>> but also for 8-minute, but also seems they have pushed more ads at >>>> the start. Now it is more likely i will just download videos I want >>>> to watch. Of course that means the content creator does not get >>>> their ad revenue, but as the ads become more and more obtrusive >>>> that is what YouTube is promoting. I certainly have no issue with >>>> anyone bypassing ads for MY videos. >>> >>> If you turn off monetization for your videos, does that not disable >>> ads? >> >> Yes, or at least I think so. At the very least you get fewer ads. > > ARGH! I hate the word fewer. It has no different meaning than "less". Do you hate the word less fewer than you do the word less? >> But I have no issue with people getting ad money, just get it when >> folks want >> to bypass any ads on my videos. > > I have a problem with ads when I'm trying to watch the video. I give > them a thumbs down and a rude comment. Feel free. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
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| From | "Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> |
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| Date | 2020-08-15 21:01 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <op.0pepv8krwdg98l@glass> |
| In reply to | #118442 |
On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 12:59:28 +0100, FromTheRafters <erratic@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: > Snit expressed precisely : >> On 7/28/20 4:50 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote: > > [...] > >>> ARGH! I hate the word fewer. It has no different meaning than "less". >> >> Do you hate the word less fewer than you do the word less? > > I think fewer is a proper subset of a countable set, and less is a > proper subset of an uncountable set. How many fewer or how much less is > up to the reader. I see no reason to distinguish the two. You had some stuff, now some's gone. The amount is lower than what it used to be.
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| From | MajorLanGod <lonelydad58@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-08-15 23:47 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <XnsAC1ABF333CAF0MajorLanGodyahoocom@69.16.179.28> |
| In reply to | #119836 |
Back to the original question: Back when USB 2.0 was what was available, some devices like external drives needed more power than a 2.0 port could provide. Y-cables were sold that would plug into two USB ports, one a full commection with data and power, and the other power only. If one connected the power only plug to the USB port, and the other end to the device needing power, you would accomplish what you wanted.
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| From | Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-08-15 17:16 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <hprc7oFnlb6U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #119848 |
On 8/15/2020 4:47 PM, MajorLanGod wrote: > Back to the original question: Back when USB 2.0 was what was available, > some devices like external drives needed more power than a 2.0 port could > provide. Maybe that was true of some external drives, but none that I've ever used with USB2. > Y-cables were sold that would plug into two USB ports, one a full > commection with data and power, and the other power only. If one connected > the power only plug to the USB port, and the other end to the device > needing power, you would accomplish what you wanted. > -- Ken
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2020-08-15 20:58 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <150820202058365567%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #119849 |
In article <hprc7oFnlb6U1@mid.individual.net>, Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> wrote: > > > Back to the original question: Back when USB 2.0 was what was available, > > some devices like external drives needed more power than a 2.0 port could > > provide. > > > Maybe that was true of some external drives, but none that I've ever > used with USB2. it was true for nearly all spinning drives, which need more than 500ma for spin-up, which is one of two reasons why hosts started to source ~1a, the other being the ability to charge smartphones and tablets at a reasonable rate.
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| From | "Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> |
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| Date | 2020-08-16 21:18 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <op.0pglc5dlwdg98l@glass> |
| In reply to | #119849 |
On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 01:16:55 +0100, Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> wrote: > On 8/15/2020 4:47 PM, MajorLanGod wrote: > >> Back to the original question: Back when USB 2.0 was what was available, >> some devices like external drives needed more power than a 2.0 port could >> provide. > > Maybe that was true of some external drives, but none that I've ever > used with USB2. I saw them a long time ago. Perhaps newer drives use less? Nowadays a 2.5" drive seems to have one USB plug, and a 3.5" drive has it's own wall wart. Not sure why they didn't start using double plugs for the 3.5" ones. Maybe they use even more than double? To answer my own question, I just looked at an old Western Digital Caviar Green (as in low power) 3.5" drive (ok it's old so maybe they're lower power now), and it needs just over 2 amps when being fed with just 5 volts (not sure if the label refers to continuous or max usage). It uses 12V too, but I converted it, assuming a 100% efficient voltage convertor in the box. So I guess if you used USB 2 (which for some reason they continue to put on modern computers), you'd need 4 ports.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2020-08-17 07:10 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <170820200710448461%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #119889 |
In article <op.0pglc5dlwdg98l@glass>, Commander Kinsey <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> wrote: > > > >> Back to the original question: Back when USB 2.0 was what was available, > >> some devices like external drives needed more power than a 2.0 port could > >> provide. > > > > Maybe that was true of some external drives, but none that I've ever > > used with USB2. > > I saw them a long time ago. Perhaps newer drives use less? nope. it's because usb ports now source higher current for bus-powered drives as well as recharging smartphones, tablets and other accessories. > Nowadays a 2.5" > drive seems to have one USB plug, and a 3.5" drive has it's own wall wart. > Not sure why they didn't start using double plugs for the 3.5" ones. because that would never work, at least via usb, and 3.5" drives are usually used in a permanent setting, where bus-power is not needed. that said, there used to be a few firewire bus-powered 3.5" drives, but there was very little demand.
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| From | Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2020-08-17 16:11 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Troll-feeding Senile ASSHOLE Alert! |
| Message-ID | <wew_G.798143$NF5.115648@usenetxs.com> |
| In reply to | #119934 |
On Mon, 17 Aug 2020 07:10:44 -0400, nospam, another mentally deficient, troll-feeding senile twit, blathered: > because that would never work, at least via usb, and 3.5" drives are > usually used in a permanent setting, where bus-power is not needed. > > that said, there used to be a few firewire bus-powered 3.5" drives, but > there was very little demand. What has all this typically useless idiotic blather got do with a group like aue, troll-feeding twit?
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2020-08-16 14:43 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <rhbuod$c8l$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #119848 |
MajorLanGod wrote:
> Back to the original question: Back when USB 2.0 was what was available,
> some devices like external drives needed more power than a 2.0 port could
> provide. Y-cables were sold that would plug into two USB ports, one a full
> commection with data and power, and the other power only. If one connected
> the power only plug to the USB port, and the other end to the device
> needing power, you would accomplish what you wanted.
USB2 ports come in "stacks of two". They're numbered in pairs.
----- fuse ---+--- USB2 #5
|
+--- USB2 #6
In the "config space" of the USB2 device, are some declarations.
A device may seek to define itself as a "high power device".
The declaration says "500mA".
The Alcatel "Frog Modem" was an early example of a violator.
While performing Internet functions, it drew 530mA.
The electronic identifier, has nothing to do with "enforcement".
Intel wrote a white paper on the topic, telling designers
to "not be policemen". The purpose of the fusing, is
to prevent copper tracks or electrical connector pins from
being burned.
Apparently they can take more of a load than the 500mA.
A typical Asus brand retail motherboard is like this.
----- fuse ---+--- USB2 #5
1.1A |
+--- USB2 #6
What this means is, if a Toshiba 2.5" hard drive that runs
off 5V and the USB bus, starts to spin, it draws 1.0A for
ten seconds. The fuse holds. It holds as long as two drives
aren't plugged in and spinning up at the same time.
Hard drive power consumption (for the motor) drops once
accelerated up to speed.
However, not all hardware works this way.
In laptops, Polyfuses would overheat, because there is no airflow.
In laptops, a "silicon policeman" is used. It's a dual channel
protection device, in an 8-pin DIP package. It isolates VBUS
with a MOSFET. If more than 500mA is drawn (say, 501mA), the
fuse opens instantly. It isn't a pokey fuse like the Polyfuse.
This makes laptops "brittle" when it comes to USB2 drives.
The Y cable was invented, so the second head would carry power.
On a laptop, they were hoping the current flow allocations would
add nicely. But that's not exactly what happens electrically.
The situation for 2.5" drives is hardly ideal. Available power
can be marginal in some cases.
they could easily have used a 1.1 for *each* port if they
wanted to. But you know how cheapskates are. They're cheap.
One dick-head designer, put *all* the 5VSB loads on a motherboard,
on a single fuse. PS/2 connectors, Parallel Port, USB ports,
all sitting off *one* fuse. Just to save some pennies. Imagine
how happy the customers of that board would be... His fellow
designers do not agree with that approach. That's why nobody
else does that.
The hard drives could all have been given barrel power
connectors, with a proper circuit for switchover. But it's
the usual story: "the other guy should fix this, why should
I fix it?".
There are occasional boutique designs, which go overboard.
For some of this style of problem, some enclosures had
a "booster circuit" which stored up power in advance before
spinup, then there are more "local amperes" to finish the
spinup phase. Seagate did this for something a couple years ago.
It's a topic of constant amusement. Bad engineering, that never
got fixed over the years. It doesn't have to be this bad, really...
Why should customers have to be exposed to these topics ???
Paul
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| From | soup <cheesesoupnews@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-08-17 09:52 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <ezr_G.900180$%C3.391711@fx02.am4> |
| In reply to | #119836 |
On 15/08/2020 21:01, Commander Kinsey wrote: > On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 12:59:28 +0100, FromTheRafters > <erratic@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: > >> Snit expressed precisely : >>> On 7/28/20 4:50 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote: >> >> [...] >> >>>> ARGH! I hate the word fewer. It has no different meaning than "less". >>> >>> Do you hate the word less fewer than you do the word less? >> >> I think fewer is a proper subset of a countable set, and less is a >> proper subset of an uncountable set. How many fewer or how much less is >> up to the reader. > > I see no reason to distinguish the two. You had some stuff, now some's > gone. The amount is lower than what it used to be. Less and fewer are both words in their own right, they are not really interchangeable . I remember it as :- Fewer cars (countable)but less traffic (non-countable). You could not say fewer traffic (well you physically could but it wouldn't make sense). Mind you that is a fairly prescriptive definition. Less is becoming more dominant, with even the supermarkets using less instead of fewer(perhaps the most discussed use of less instead of fewer is the phrase 'ten items or less' .
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| From | Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2020-08-17 12:03 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Troll-feeding Senile HUGE ASSHOLE Alert! |
| Message-ID | <oCs_G.2463672$fgO.958659@usenetxs.com> |
| In reply to | #119922 |
On Mon, 17 Aug 2020 09:52:30 +0100, soup, the totally brain dead, troll-feeding senile idiot, blathered again: > Less and fewer are both words in their own right, they are not really > interchangeable . > > I remember it as :- > Fewer cars (countable)but less traffic (non-countable). > > You could not say fewer traffic (well you physically could but it > wouldn't make sense). > > Mind you that is a fairly prescriptive definition. > Less is becoming more dominant, with even the supermarkets using less > instead of fewer(perhaps the most discussed use of less instead of fewer > is the phrase 'ten items or less' . The sociopathic troll thanks you nicely for feeding him yet again, you sick senile troll-feeding twit! <tsk>
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