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Mechanical or SSD for backup drive

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  Mechanical or SSD for backup drive micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-19 22:34 -0400
    Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-20 03:48 -0400
      Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-04-20 09:27 +0100
      Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-20 20:23 +0200
        Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-20 16:55 -0400
          Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-21 14:42 +0200
            Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-21 21:22 -0400
          Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-22 20:15 +1000
            Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-22 16:52 -0400
              Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-04-23 00:37 +0100
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-04-23 17:45 +0100
                  Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-24 20:56 +1000
                    Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-24 22:37 +0200
                      Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-24 21:48 -0400
                        Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-25 05:32 -0400
                      Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-25 20:14 +1000
                        Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-25 13:37 +0200
                          Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-25 23:32 +1000
                            Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-25 20:20 +0200
                              Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-04-25 22:02 +0100
                                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-26 19:44 +1000
                                  Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-26 21:00 +1000
                                  Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-26 20:07 +0200
                                    Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-26 17:20 -0400
                                      Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-27 14:17 +0200
                                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-26 19:24 +0000
                                  Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-26 22:28 +0200
                                    Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-04-27 11:36 +0100
                                      Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-28 00:16 +1000
                                        Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2025-04-28 21:22 +0100
                                          Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-29 22:37 +1000
                                            Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-29 17:27 +0000
                                              Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-29 17:48 +0000
                                                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 21:09 +0200
                                                  Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-30 19:24 +1000
                                                    Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-04-30 20:20 +0100
                                                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-30 19:10 +0000
                                            Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2025-04-30 15:49 +0100
                                          Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-29 17:21 +0000
                                            Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-29 15:26 -0400
                                              Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-30 19:14 +0000
                                            Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-04-29 17:18 -0500
                                              Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-04-30 22:21 +0000
                                                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Sam E <no.email@here.invalid> - 2025-05-01 16:46 +0000
                                                  Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-03 22:39 +1000
                                                    Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-05-03 19:18 +0000
                                                      Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-06 22:44 +1000
                                                        Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-06 14:13 -0400
                                            Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-01 00:32 +1000
                                              Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-30 13:10 -0400
                                                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-30 19:20 +0000
                                                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-04-30 22:24 +0000
                                                  Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-04 15:23 +0200
                                                    Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-04 15:07 -0400
                                                      Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-04 22:51 +0200
                                                    Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-05-04 19:57 +0000
                                                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-03 22:44 +1000
                                            Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2025-04-30 16:19 +0100
                                              Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-30 19:31 +0000
                                                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-06 22:53 +1000
                                            Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-30 19:12 +0000
                                          Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 21:18 +0200
                                      Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2025-04-28 21:42 +0100
                  Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-04-25 19:04 +0100
                    Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-25 23:33 +0200
                    Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-26 20:04 +1000
                      Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-26 21:05 +1000
              Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-23 19:26 +1000
            Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Sam E <no.email@here.invalid> - 2025-04-22 23:00 +0000
              Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-04-23 00:40 +0100
    Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-20 07:15 -0400
      Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-20 11:11 -0400
        Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-20 12:08 -0400
        Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-04-20 12:38 -0400
    Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-04-20 12:31 -0400
    Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-04-21 02:38 +0000
      Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-21 03:52 -0400
        Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-21 11:51 -0400
          Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-21 21:13 -0400
        Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-04-22 06:07 +0000
          Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-22 05:34 -0400
      Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-21 07:40 -0400
        Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-21 09:12 -0400
          Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-04-21 14:54 +0100
            Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-04-21 15:29 +0100
              Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-04-21 16:06 +0100
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-21 17:45 -0400
                  Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-04-22 00:15 +0100
                  Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-04-21 23:01 -0500
                  Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-04-22 06:58 +0100
                    Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-22 05:47 -0400
                      Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-04-22 10:37 -0500
                        Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-22 14:34 -0400
          Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-21 11:38 -0400
            Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-21 18:29 -0400
              Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-21 22:23 -0400
    Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-21 14:05 +0000
      Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Mr Xi Ji Ping <ping@china.cn> - 2025-04-21 15:30 +0000
      Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-04-21 11:28 -0400
        Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-15 21:33 +1000
          Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-05-15 07:41 -0400
            Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-15 14:06 +0200
            Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-15 09:31 -0400
            Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-15 23:36 +1000
              Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-05-15 23:26 +0000
          Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-05-15 14:27 -0400
            Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-16 18:38 +1000
              Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-05-16 14:51 +0000
              Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-05-16 11:06 -0400
      Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-21 12:08 -0400

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#184209

FromMark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid>
Date2025-04-30 19:14 +0000
Message-ID<6812769b$0$14$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#184177
On Tue, 29 Apr 2025 15:26:35 -0400, Paul wrote:

> On Tue, 4/29/2025 1:21 PM, Mark Lloyd wrote:

[snip]

> The movie has likely been re-cut or re-packaged a number of times since
> original filming.
> 
>    "The film was re-released in 1974, 1977, 1980 and 1993.
>     In 2001, a restoration of the 70 mm version was screened..."
> 
> The framing and what is in the 70mm version versus the 35mm version,
> would be different. As would the TV cropping versus what is seen in a
> movie theater. Maybe you've seen other wide screen productions, where
> the movie is ruined by the TV cropping, cutting all the detail off the
> sides.
> 
>    Paul

I have seen it on TV. I know at least one I've seen was a widescreen DVD 
version.

-- 
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"My God, it's full of stars!"

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#184179

FromChar Jackson <none@none.invalid>
Date2025-04-29 17:18 -0500
Message-ID<sqj21k9eqva3d9kgk39mfrtclkljj409s5@4ax.com>
In reply to#184158
On 29 Apr 2025 17:21:55 GMT, Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> wrote:

>On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 21:22:49 +0100, John wrote:
>
>[snip]
>
>>  And there was TMA-1 in 2001 or a couple of years before that. There
>> was at least one Moonbase then, too, as well as a human-filled ship to
>> Jupiter.
>
>I remember seeing that movie in a theater in 1700.

Kudos to you! I barely remember what I was doing in 1800, let alone
1700.

>In the beginning when 
>they showed a bunch of apes grunting (before the appearance of TMA-0), 
>there was a caption saying "our forefathers" and several people laughed. 
>I've seen the movie a couple of dozen times since then and never noticed 
>the caption.
>
>Maybe it was removed, something about too many people failing to 
>understand what "millions of years" means.
>
>Another interesting bit was when an ape throws a bone into the sky and it 
>seems to turn into a space station.

That reminds me of the movie* where a Coke bottle falls from the sky and
becomes a treasured object among the primitive people who found it.

*The Gods Must Be Crazy, 1980

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#184214

Fromant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
Date2025-04-30 22:21 +0000
Message-ID<vuu7q4$16170$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#184179
Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> wrote:
> On 29 Apr 2025 17:21:55 GMT, Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> wrote:

> >On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 21:22:49 +0100, John wrote:
> >
> >[snip]
> >
> >>  And there was TMA-1 in 2001 or a couple of years before that. There
> >> was at least one Moonbase then, too, as well as a human-filled ship to
> >> Jupiter.
> >
> >I remember seeing that movie in a theater in 1700.

> Kudos to you! I barely remember what I was doing in 1800, let alone
> 1700.

Same for me, but in 2000. :P
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#184225

FromSam E <no.email@here.invalid>
Date2025-05-01 16:46 +0000
Message-ID<6813a54e$0$17$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#184214
On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 22:21:57 -0000 (UTC), Ant wrote:

[snip]

> Same for me, but in 2000. :P

OT: If you try to determine what century you're in by truncating* the last 
2 digits of the year, you will be right 1% of the time. That's the year 
(that is, 2000 is in the 20th century. 2001-2099 are not).

* even more OT: A truncheon is an edged weapon used for cutting people's 
heads off.

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#184261

FromDaniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org>
Date2025-05-03 22:39 +1000
Message-ID<vv52qh$3hs0v$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#184225
On 2/05/2025 2:46 am, Sam E wrote:

<Snip>

> * even more OT: A truncheon is an edged weapon used for cutting people's
> heads off.
> 
REALLY?? I thought truncheons were the wood things the British Bobby's 
(police) carry to whack people with!
-- 
Daniel70

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#184271

FromMark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid>
Date2025-05-03 19:18 +0000
Message-ID<68166c17$1$20$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#184261
On Sat, 3 May 2025 22:39:42 +1000, Daniel70 wrote:

> On 2/05/2025 2:46 am, Sam E wrote:
> 
> <Snip>
> 
>> * even more OT: A truncheon is an edged weapon used for cutting
>> people's heads off.
>> 
> REALLY?? I thought truncheons were the wood things the British Bobby's
> (police) carry to whack people with!

That was the first definition I heard (from my mother, who worked in a 
library at the time). I looked it up just now, and found both definitions. 
Yours was listed first.

-- 
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"The foolish renounce this world and pursue an imaginary world to come."
-- Giordano Bruno (1548-1600), Italian philosopher

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#184303

FromDaniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org>
Date2025-05-06 22:44 +1000
Message-ID<vvd07o$2udag$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#184271
On 4/05/2025 5:18 am, Mark Lloyd wrote:
> On Sat, 3 May 2025 22:39:42 +1000, Daniel70 wrote:
>> On 2/05/2025 2:46 am, Sam E wrote:
>>
>> <Snip>
>>
>>> * even more OT: A truncheon is an edged weapon used for cutting
>>> people's heads off.
>>>
>> REALLY?? I thought truncheons were the wood things the British Bobby's
>> (police) carry to whack people with!
> 
> That was the first definition I heard (from my mother, who worked in a
> library at the time). I looked it up just now, and found both definitions.
> Yours was listed first.
> 
Could it be 'the shape of the thing'?? Does a Coppers Truncheon have a 
similar shape to the Edged Weapon??
-- 
Daniel70

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#184313

FromPaul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Date2025-05-06 14:13 -0400
Message-ID<vvdjg2$3h267$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#184303
On Tue, 5/6/2025 8:44 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
> On 4/05/2025 5:18 am, Mark Lloyd wrote:
>> On Sat, 3 May 2025 22:39:42 +1000, Daniel70 wrote:
>>> On 2/05/2025 2:46 am, Sam E wrote:
>>>
>>> <Snip>
>>>
>>>> * even more OT: A truncheon is an edged weapon used for cutting
>>>> people's heads off.
>>>>
>>> REALLY?? I thought truncheons were the wood things the British Bobby's
>>> (police) carry to whack people with!
>>
>> That was the first definition I heard (from my mother, who worked in a
>> library at the time). I looked it up just now, and found both definitions.
>> Yours was listed first.
>>
> Could it be 'the shape of the thing'?? Does a Coppers Truncheon have a similar shape to the Edged Weapon??

The design has changed over the years.

   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baton_%28law_enforcement%29

Including how to use them. There is a paragraph in there, on
how to apply one, as a policeman.

A BlackJack will get more of a persons attention. A policeman would
not carry one, but a thug who wants your wallet would not mind
using one. A person properly trained, can knock you unconscious with
one well-directed blow. It doesn't even take a big swing. Just a "tap"
will do it, if you know the technique. You'll regain consciousness
maybe ten minutes later. Anyone unfamiliar with the thing, could fracture
your skull. Police batons in modern times, the mass is not optimized
for destruction. After all, the officers gun has to have some function.

The design of trauma is all too easy. A policeman killed someone here
with one punch. How ? His gloves happened to have Kevlar inserts
in the knuckles (that's like brass knuckles without brass metal).
The gloves were not approved for police usage. You can buy the gloves
on Ebay.

We've come a long way from the 2x4 :-)

   Paul

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#184197

FromDaniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org>
Date2025-05-01 00:32 +1000
Message-ID<vutcap$fnr0$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#184158
On 30/04/2025 3:21 am, Mark Lloyd wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 21:22:49 +0100, John wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
>>   And there was TMA-1 in 2001 or a couple of years before that. There
>> was at least one Moonbase then, too, as well as a human-filled ship to
>> Jupiter.
> 
> I remember seeing that movie in a theater in 1700. In the beginning when
> they showed a bunch of apes grunting (before the appearance of TMA-0),
> there was a caption saying "our forefathers" and several people laughed.
> I've seen the movie a couple of dozen times since then and never noticed
> the caption.

Thank you for mentioning this .... as it made me go looking at the 
web-site for a traditional Cinema .... and they're showing it on the Big 
Screen in June!! Beauty!!

https://www.astortheatre.net.au/sessions/2025-06-08-1530

> Maybe it was removed, something about too many people failing to
> understand what "millions of years" means.
> 
> Another interesting bit was when an ape throws a bone into the sky and it
> seems to turn into a space station.
> 
>>   We've had lots of Moonbases in the last thirty-odd years.
-- 
Daniel70

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#184201

FromPaul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Date2025-04-30 13:10 -0400
Message-ID<vutlis$n5jk$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#184197
On Wed, 4/30/2025 10:32 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
> On 30/04/2025 3:21 am, Mark Lloyd wrote:
>> On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 21:22:49 +0100, John wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>>>   And there was TMA-1 in 2001 or a couple of years before that. There
>>> was at least one Moonbase then, too, as well as a human-filled ship to
>>> Jupiter.
>>
>> I remember seeing that movie in a theater in 1700. In the beginning when
>> they showed a bunch of apes grunting (before the appearance of TMA-0),
>> there was a caption saying "our forefathers" and several people laughed.
>> I've seen the movie a couple of dozen times since then and never noticed
>> the caption.
> 
> Thank you for mentioning this .... as it made me go looking at the web-site
> for a traditional Cinema .... and they're showing it on the Big Screen in June!! Beauty!!
> 
> https://www.astortheatre.net.au/sessions/2025-06-08-1530
> 

As that is 70mm, try not to sit in the first row of the theater.
You'll need to sit in the back, to avoid neck damage looking up
and to the side.

And remember, it's not Transformers. There are no explosions and car chases.

   Paul

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#184210

FromMark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid>
Date2025-04-30 19:20 +0000
Message-ID<681277e1$0$15$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#184201
On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 13:10:52 -0400, Paul wrote:

[snip]

> As that is 70mm, try not to sit in the first row of the theater.
> You'll need to sit in the back, to avoid neck damage looking up and to
> the side.

I remember about that, now that you mentioned it. I remember going into a 
movie theater as a child, and my parents talking about not sitting too 
close to the front.

> And remember, it's not Transformers. There are no explosions and car
> chases.

I remember a lot of breathing sounds, what you'd expect in a spacesuit.

>    Paul



-- 
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#184215

Fromant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
Date2025-04-30 22:24 +0000
Message-ID<vuu7vc$16170$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#184201
Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
...
> > Thank you for mentioning this .... as it made me go looking at the web-site
> > for a traditional Cinema .... and they're showing it on the Big Screen in June!! Beauty!!
> > 
> > https://www.astortheatre.net.au/sessions/2025-06-08-1530
> > 

> As that is 70mm, try not to sit in the first row of the theater.
> You'll need to sit in the back, to avoid neck damage looking up
> and to the side.

Also, the annoying shaking picture. I remember with my local AMC Theatre 
for Indiana Jones and The Crystal Skull movie since we got there late 
(no reserved seats). :(
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#184283

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-05-04 15:23 +0200
Message-ID<eb6kelxihg.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#184215
On 2025-05-01 00:24, Ant wrote:
> Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
> ...
>>> Thank you for mentioning this .... as it made me go looking at the web-site
>>> for a traditional Cinema .... and they're showing it on the Big Screen in June!! Beauty!!
>>>
>>> https://www.astortheatre.net.au/sessions/2025-06-08-1530
>>>
> 
>> As that is 70mm, try not to sit in the first row of the theater.
>> You'll need to sit in the back, to avoid neck damage looking up
>> and to the side.
> 
> Also, the annoying shaking picture. I remember with my local AMC Theatre
> for Indiana Jones and The Crystal Skull movie since we got there late
> (no reserved seats). :(

Shaking? Either the film was badly damaged, or the projector machine was 
not adjusted properly, and the projectionist was not checking the screen.

Baaad. Sloppy. Never happened to me.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#184288

FromPaul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Date2025-05-04 15:07 -0400
Message-ID<vv8dts$2kui7$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#184283
On Sun, 5/4/2025 9:23 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2025-05-01 00:24, Ant wrote:
>> Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
>> ...
>>>> Thank you for mentioning this .... as it made me go looking at the web-site
>>>> for a traditional Cinema .... and they're showing it on the Big Screen in June!! Beauty!!
>>>>
>>>> https://www.astortheatre.net.au/sessions/2025-06-08-1530
>>>>
>>
>>> As that is 70mm, try not to sit in the first row of the theater.
>>> You'll need to sit in the back, to avoid neck damage looking up
>>> and to the side.
>>
>> Also, the annoying shaking picture. I remember with my local AMC Theatre
>> for Indiana Jones and The Crystal Skull movie since we got there late
>> (no reserved seats). :(
> 
> Shaking? Either the film was badly damaged, or the projector machine was not adjusted properly, and the projectionist was not checking the screen.
> 
> Baaad. Sloppy. Never happened to me.
> 

Things like that happen, in a "Ten-Plex". we have
some theaters here, with ten viewing rooms. This
means for low-grade schlock movies, you're sitting
in a relatively small ("narrow") viewing room. Maybe only
one room at the Ten-Plex is suited to "feature" items
or things like 70mm. The operator in those facilities,
back in the regular projection days, was run off his
feet, loading cans and queuing up stuff.

Modern theaters have replaced all that, with full
digital projection. And that has changed the failure
modes somewhat. You might find conventional
projectors at art theaters, where the film still
arrives in cans. Some of the movies, the content is
so poor, it's a good thing the digital representation
can be immediately deleted, after a limited run :-)

On some long running TV series, they were erasing the
storage used for the first season, and using it to
store a succeeding season, leading to complete loss
of any copies of the early versions. The advent of
film-less photography, encourages all sorts of
silly behavior.

   Paul

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#184290

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-05-04 22:51 +0200
Message-ID<4k0lelx9m4.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#184288
On 2025-05-04 21:07, Paul wrote:
> On Sun, 5/4/2025 9:23 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2025-05-01 00:24, Ant wrote:
>>> Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
>>> ...
>>>>> Thank you for mentioning this .... as it made me go looking at the web-site
>>>>> for a traditional Cinema .... and they're showing it on the Big Screen in June!! Beauty!!
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.astortheatre.net.au/sessions/2025-06-08-1530
>>>>>
>>>
>>>> As that is 70mm, try not to sit in the first row of the theater.
>>>> You'll need to sit in the back, to avoid neck damage looking up
>>>> and to the side.
>>>
>>> Also, the annoying shaking picture. I remember with my local AMC Theatre
>>> for Indiana Jones and The Crystal Skull movie since we got there late
>>> (no reserved seats). :(
>>
>> Shaking? Either the film was badly damaged, or the projector machine was not adjusted properly, and the projectionist was not checking the screen.
>>
>> Baaad. Sloppy. Never happened to me.
>>
> 
> Things like that happen, in a "Ten-Plex". we have
> some theaters here, with ten viewing rooms. This
> means for low-grade schlock movies, you're sitting
> in a relatively small ("narrow") viewing room. Maybe only
> one room at the Ten-Plex is suited to "feature" items
> or things like 70mm. The operator in those facilities,
> back in the regular projection days, was run off his
> feet, loading cans and queuing up stuff.
> 
> Modern theaters have replaced all that, with full
> digital projection. And that has changed the failure
> modes somewhat. You might find conventional
> projectors at art theaters, where the film still
> arrives in cans. Some of the movies, the content is
> so poor, it's a good thing the digital representation
> can be immediately deleted, after a limited run :-)
> 
> On some long running TV series, they were erasing the
> storage used for the first season, and using it to
> store a succeeding season, leading to complete loss
> of any copies of the early versions. The advent of
> film-less photography, encourages all sorts of
> silly behavior.

Buff.

I don't think we have any theatre in Spain using actual film, it is all 
digital. Maybe 16 mm still exists? I doubt it.

I was a projectionist for an amateur cinema club, in the 80's.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#184289

Fromant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
Date2025-05-04 19:57 +0000
Message-ID<vv8grk$2mp80$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#184283
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> On 2025-05-01 00:24, Ant wrote:
> > Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
> > ...
> >>> Thank you for mentioning this .... as it made me go looking at the web-site
> >>> for a traditional Cinema .... and they're showing it on the Big Screen in June!! Beauty!!
> >>>
> >>> https://www.astortheatre.net.au/sessions/2025-06-08-1530
> >>>
> > 
> >> As that is 70mm, try not to sit in the first row of the theater.
> >> You'll need to sit in the back, to avoid neck damage looking up
> >> and to the side.
> > 
> > Also, the annoying shaking picture. I remember with my local AMC Theatre
> > for Indiana Jones and The Crystal Skull movie since we got there late
> > (no reserved seats). :(

> Shaking? Either the film was badly damaged, or the projector machine was 
> not adjusted properly, and the projectionist was not checking the screen.

> Baaad. Sloppy. Never happened to me.

It was an old theater. The theatre finally got remodelled when Rogue One 
came out. So much better! New seats, screens, audio, etc.
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#184262

FromDaniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org>
Date2025-05-03 22:44 +1000
Message-ID<vv532j$3i47q$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#184201
On 1/05/2025 3:10 am, Paul wrote:
> On Wed, 4/30/2025 10:32 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
>> On 30/04/2025 3:21 am, Mark Lloyd wrote:
>>> On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 21:22:49 +0100, John wrote:
>>> 
>>> [snip]
>>> 
>>>> And there was TMA-1 in 2001 or a couple of years before that.
>>>> There was at least one Moonbase then, too, as well as a
>>>> human-filled ship to Jupiter.
>>> 
>>> I remember seeing that movie in a theater in 1700. In the
>>> beginning when they showed a bunch of apes grunting (before the
>>> appearance of TMA-0), there was a caption saying "our
>>> forefathers" and several people laughed. I've seen the movie a
>>> couple of dozen times since then and never noticed the caption.
>> 
>> Thank you for mentioning this .... as it made me go looking at the
>> web-site for a traditional Cinema .... and they're showing it on
>> the Big Screen in June!! Beauty!!
>> 
>> https://www.astortheatre.net.au/sessions/2025-06-08-1530
>> 
> 
> As that is 70mm, try not to sit in the first row of the theater. 
> You'll need to sit in the back, to avoid neck damage looking up and
> to the side.
> 
> And remember, it's not Transformers. There are no explosions and car
> chases.
> 
> Paul
> 
Hey, Paul, you're not talking to a newbie here!!

I've seen it (several times) and other films (e.g. Ben Hur) as well 
..... at that theatre.
-- 
Daniel70

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#184200

FromJohn <Man@the.keyboard>
Date2025-04-30 16:19 +0100
Message-ID<m6e41k9203l4dla06uk8uqv3lk9utqcn8m@4ax.com>
In reply to#184158
On 29 Apr 2025 17:21:55 GMT, Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> wrote:

>On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 21:22:49 +0100, John wrote:
>
>[snip]
>
>>  And there was TMA-1 in 2001 or a couple of years before that. There
>> was at least one Moonbase then, too, as well as a human-filled ship to
>> Jupiter.
>
>I remember seeing that movie in a theater in 1700. In the beginning when 
>they showed a bunch of apes grunting (before the appearance of TMA-0), 
>there was a caption saying "our forefathers" and several people laughed. 
>I've seen the movie a couple of dozen times since then and never noticed 
>the caption.
>
>Maybe it was removed, something about too many people failing to 
>understand what "millions of years" means.

 Didn't the introductory bit have a "millions of years ago, somewhere
in Kenya" flag on it? I seem to remember that that was how *I* knew
that those weren't contemporary New Yorkers. 

 Though the "millions" was a little iffy as those monkeys looked a
little too human to be pre-human. They looked very much like furries.
Or ball-players before their morning's shaving. 
 
 It would have been interesting had the company hired some Bonobos for
that scene. Or, since it was Kunrick and he was a stickler for
authenticity, maybe they could have Time Travelled and brought in some
Habilises? Or used Members of England's Parliament, which are just
about the same thing only less evolved? 

>
>Another interesting bit was when an ape throws a bone into the sky and it 
>seems to turn into a space station.

 A hint that *Time* in vast chunks had just passed and that "Things
Have Changed A Bit Since We Last Saw Our Heroes". 

 They used to do it in movies with whirling clocks and falling
calendar pages, or, in the case of "The Time Machine", with a sky full
of a circling Sun. 

 The Bone-to-spaceship morphing was cool. The girly waitressing in the
Shuttle was also cool. Even knowing how they did it, it is still a
brilliant piece of cinematography to watch.  

>
>>  We've had lots of Moonbases in the last thirty-odd years.

 I meant "in the last few years since Moonbase Alpha ran away. Of
course we've had others well before that. Many, many others. 

 Well ... *we* haven't, unless you count six temporary camping sites
and a couple of caravans going around and around, but theoretical
alternative History "we's" have had. 

 Hell, even the Germans have had Moonbases since 1940-something. The
"Iron Sky" documentary tells us about those. And "ID-5 : The Return Of
The Evil Ones" shows us a lovely little Moonbase with a Reaaly Big
Gun. [Does anyone have a copy of the first three movies? "ID-1" to
"ID-3"? I can't find any.] 

 Can you tell that I don't get out enough? 

                                                        J. 


Question: if alternative realities are real, as in the Multiverse
Theories, are all of those other "me's" legally me? Does that mean I
need to wait for all of the wives to die before I can remarry? Am I
committing polygamy if I don't? Can I raid their bank accounts and
fridges? Can I shoot people here and claim that, statistically and
numerically, no one died because millions and millions and
quadrilliards of him are still alive so the dead one is just a tiny,
little blip and of no consequence? Has anyone ever tried that one? Is
this Off Topic? :)
    
                                            

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#184212

FromMark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid>
Date2025-04-30 19:31 +0000
Message-ID<68127a99$0$16$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#184200
On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 16:19:09 +0100, John wrote:

[snip]
 
>  It would have been interesting had the company hired some Bonobos for
> that scene. Or, since it was Kunrick and he was a stickler for
> authenticity, maybe they could have Time Travelled and brought in some
> Habilises? Or used Members of England's Parliament, which are just about
> the same thing only less evolved?

That reminds me of something I found on the internet that says the moon 
landing was faked. It was filmed by Stanley Kubrick. It then goes on to 
say that he insisted on filming on location.

[snip]

> Question: if alternative realities are real, as in the Multiverse
> Theories, are all of those other "me's" legally me? Does that mean I
> need to wait for all of the wives to die before I can remarry? Am I
> committing polygamy if I don't? Can I raid their bank accounts and
> fridges? Can I shoot people here and claim that, statistically and
> numerically, no one died because millions and millions and quadrilliards
> of him are still alive so the dead one is just a tiny, little blip and
> of no consequence? Has anyone ever tried that one? Is this Off Topic? :)

I think about alternate realities a lot. Especially ones where my life has 
been better. However, I do realize that even if I could move over, it 
would be wrong. That's somebody else's life.

BTW, I have a program on my computer that semi-randomly selects a 
quotation every day to put in my sig. As an interesting coincidence, it 
selected one from 2001 today.
 
-- 
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"My God, it's full of stars!"

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#184304

FromDaniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org>
Date2025-05-06 22:53 +1000
Message-ID<vvd0nk$2vnvn$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#184212
On 1/05/2025 5:31 am, Mark Lloyd wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 16:19:09 +0100, John wrote:
> 
> [snip]
>   
>>   It would have been interesting had the company hired some Bonobos for
>> that scene. Or, since it was Kunrick and he was a stickler for
>> authenticity, maybe they could have Time Travelled and brought in some
>> Habilises? Or used Members of England's Parliament, which are just about
>> the same thing only less evolved?
> 
> That reminds me of something I found on the internet that says the moon
> landing was faked. It was filmed by Stanley Kubrick. It then goes on to
> say that he insisted on filming on location.
> 
> [snip]

... as shown in the film "Capricorn One"

Oh!! Hang on! That's apparently about a Mars landing. I've got it stored 
on my PVR ... must check that!!
-- 
Daniel70

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