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Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks

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  Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2025-01-05 05:14 -0800
    Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-05 10:43 -0500
      Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-05 12:44 -0500
        Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-05 18:39 +0000
      Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2025-01-05 10:48 -0800
      Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Simon GAHHH Creator <noreply@GAHHH.com> - 2025-01-06 02:00 +0000
    Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-05 12:50 -0500
      Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-05 13:05 -0500
        Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-05 13:38 -0500
          Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-01-05 13:20 -0600
            Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-05 14:53 -0500
            Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-05 15:19 -0500
    Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Simon GAHHH Creator <noreply@GAHHH.com> - 2025-01-06 02:02 +0000
      Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2025-01-06 15:23 -0800
    Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-01-06 16:41 +0800
    Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 12:43 -0800
    Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2025-01-09 22:01 +0000
      Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 14:21 -0800
        Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-09 22:28 -0500
          Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 19:42 -0800
            Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-09 23:05 -0500
              Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 14:34 -0800
            Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-10 00:05 -0500
              Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-10 01:38 -0800
              Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-10 08:54 -0500
          Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 19:53 -0800
            Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-10 09:01 -0500
              Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks wasbit <wasbit@nowhere.com> - 2025-01-11 09:29 +0000
                Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 02:59 -0800
          Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks "Bill Bradshaw" <bradshaw@gci.net> - 2025-01-10 08:30 -0900
            Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-10 14:00 -0500
              Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-10 11:19 -0800
                Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-10 19:43 -0500
                  Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-10 18:36 -0800
                    Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-10 21:59 -0500
                    Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-10 23:18 -0500
                      Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-10 23:39 -0500
                        Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 03:00 -0800
                          Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-11 08:46 -0500
                            Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 12:49 -0800
                        Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-11 08:43 -0500
                          Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks "Bill Bradshaw" <bradshaw@gci.net> - 2025-01-11 10:04 -0900
                            Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 12:51 -0800
                              Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-11 23:13 -0500
                                Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 22:46 -0800
                                Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks "Bill Bradshaw" <bradshaw@gci.net> - 2025-01-12 10:28 -0900
                          Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 13:43 -0800
                            Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2025-01-12 10:53 -0700
                              Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-12 15:20 -0500
                                Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2025-01-13 09:41 -0700
                              Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 12:38 -0800
                                Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2025-01-13 09:48 -0700
                        Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-11 13:49 +0000
                          Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-11 11:15 -0500
            Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks wasbit <wasbit@nowhere.com> - 2025-01-11 09:30 +0000
          Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-03-19 22:50 +1100
            Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-19 11:51 -0400
            Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-03-19 09:26 -0700
              Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-03-20 20:31 +1100
                Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-03-20 11:38 -0700
                  Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-03-21 22:46 +1100
                    Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-03-21 23:23 +1100
      Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2025-01-11 06:40 -0800

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#181120 — Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks

From"John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com>
Date2025-01-05 05:14 -0800
SubjectNow I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks
Message-ID<vle0l2$11s8s$1@dont-email.me>
My copy of Windows 10 Pro is now so riddled with problems and
non-functional modules that it's at the point where it may be time to
look at another operating system. So what's causing this issue?

India has taken over Microsoft. If you don't believe me, go here:

https://www.quora.com/Why-are-there-so-many-Indians-in-Microsoft-and-Google

And they are doing a piss-poor job of coding Windows. There are those
who will call me racist, and you can bet that those who do so are most
likely going to be Microsoft shills.

Also see:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satya_Nadella

America is led by a pack of fools for allowing this to happen.

-- 
John C.

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#181121

FromNewyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam>
Date2025-01-05 10:43 -0500
Message-ID<vle9ab$13gs8$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#181120
On 1/5/2025 8:14 AM, John C. wrote:
> My copy of Windows 10 Pro is now so riddled with problems and
> non-functional modules that it's at the point where it may be time to
> look at another operating system. So what's causing this issue?
> 
> India has taken over Microsoft. If you don't believe me, go here:
> 
> https://www.quora.com/Why-are-there-so-many-Indians-in-Microsoft-and-Google
> 
> And they are doing a piss-poor job of coding Windows. There are those
> who will call me racist, and you can bet that those who do so are most
> likely going to be Microsoft shills.
> 

   I can't see the Quora page, so I don't know what you're linking to.
They've ensured that their page is completely
broken unless I let them run script on my machine... And you think
Windows is bad? How about the Internet? :)

   Indian programmers are exploited as cheap labor. That's the argument
with the H1B visas. They're not oily sleazeballs coming into the US
to take our jobs away. They're skilled programmers that companies
like Microsoft can get away with underpaying.

    This is part of Trumps xenophobia strategy: Get everyone to blame
foreigners for our problems. Lock down the borders. But then no one
wants to talk about all the money saved by hiring Indian programmers,
Mexican fruit pickers, Ecuadoran housepainters and landscapers, Brazilian
plasterers, Venezuelan housecleaners... Then there are the iPhones
and Dells built by virtual slave labor in China. Our economy depends
more that ever before on exploiting people from poor countries. If we
get rid of them then there will be better jobs for the working poor,
especially, but you'll have to pay $40/hour for childcare and $15 for
an orange.

   You didn't say what problems you've had with Win10 specifically.
In my experience it's quite bloated and brittle, but after cleaning it
up I've found it to be stable and very fast on new hardware. However,
I've also found that MS have become very aggressive and anti-tweak.
They want control. They'll break things if you don't cooperate.

   If you allow their undependable drip-feed updates -- if you allow them
access to your computer -- then all bets are off. We have 3 Win10
computers here. All are fine. All are tweaked. All block Microsoft by
using Windows Update Blocker and Simplewall.

   If you don't block MS then your options are basically Win7 or Linux.
This "Windows as a Service" is not going to get better. The intrusions
are not going to go away. Their head of AI recently said that he expects
people to be basically operating through Copilot within the next few
years. In other words, your computer will be a service interface
that spies on every impulse you have and shows you ads and shopping
ideas... But behind the scenes, this is still a solid platform that supports
a very large selection of good software. That functionality can't be
matched on Macs or Linux.

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#181123

FromNewyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam>
Date2025-01-05 12:44 -0500
Message-ID<vlegcg$14te4$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#181121
On 1/5/2025 10:43 AM, Newyana2 wrote:

   Also, you should understand that automatic dripfeed updates is
a crazy-ass, unstable way to operate. Problems and bugs have
been numerous because things are not sufficiently tested. You
should NOT enable dropfeed updates. Some people will say that's
irresponsible in terms of security. It's not. What's irresponsible is
insecure browser settings, Remote Desktop, and other unsafe
practices. That's how malware attacks. Unpatched bugs are never
the sole reason for compromised systems.

   Microsoft are doing this partly due to fashion but mostly as an
excuse to exercise control over your computer. The plan with
MS, Adobe and many other companies is to rent computing
itself because they no longer make such big profits selling
software. But who, in their right mind, would pay to rent
software?

   Thus, the scam requires redefining the landscape. They
essentially have to turn your car into a taxi and convince you
that that's the way it's always been. Part of that strategy
involves normalizing constant updates and normalizing spyware
functionality. Another strategy is "cloud". Adobe Photoshop or CS
installs locally. MSO365 also installs locally. But they give you
online storage and pretend that you're using online software.
In that way they justify rental fees, telling people that it's
now cloud software.

  (And God help any sucker who pays Abode through the nose
without saving local copies of their work. If they stop paying
rent they'll lose their files.)


   Did you know that corporate customers ("enterprise") who buy
multiple seat licenses can control their own updating? The Home
and Pro versions of Windows are now an unpain army of beta
testers. If something is going to brick the system, Home/Pro
customers with auto-update enabled will find out first. Meanwhile,
the corporate customers have their own IT staff, doing the testing
that MS should have done, before they roll out any changes to
their fleet.

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#181127

FromFrank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Date2025-01-05 18:39 +0000
Message-ID<vlen63.qf0.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>
In reply to#181123
Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> wrote:
[...]

>    Did you know that corporate customers ("enterprise") who buy
> multiple seat licenses can control their own updating? The Home
> and Pro versions of Windows are now an unpain army of beta
> testers. If something is going to brick the system, Home/Pro
> customers with auto-update enabled will find out first. Meanwhile,
> the corporate customers have their own IT staff, doing the testing
> that MS should have done, before they roll out any changes to
> their fleet.

  Nothing new there, corporate customers have been doing that (or have
outsourced it to other service providers) ever since Windows NT (and
probably before).

  A tad risky to let 100K 'seats' update themselves, without testing
those updates first.

  (Yes, 'we' had 100K seats (probably way more, but at least that
many).)

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#181128

FromStan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm>
Date2025-01-05 10:48 -0800
Message-ID<MPG.41e473f82f55c6f9903a8@news.individual.net>
In reply to#181121
On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 10:43:49 -0500, Newyana2 wrote:
>    I can't see the Quora page, so I don't know what you're linking to.
> They've ensured that their page is completely
> broken unless I let them run script on my machine.

I've found the same. And even if I do allow scripting, it shows only 
a few lines of each post; to see the rest I would need to create a 
Quora account, which I refuse to do because it seems to be basically 
clickbait SEOed into Google search results.

But surely rants about the national or ethnic background of Microsoft 
employees -- whether racist, merely ignorant, or well founded -- are 
not about Windows and thus are off topic for this group?

-- 
Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA         https://BrownMath.com/
Shikata ga nai...

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#181138

FromSimon GAHHH Creator <noreply@GAHHH.com>
Date2025-01-06 02:00 +0000
Message-ID<vlfdb3$11km3$1@paganini.bofh.team>
In reply to#181121
On 05/01/2025 15:43, Newyana2 wrote:
> Then there are the iPhones
> and Dells built by virtual slave labor in China. Our economy depends
> more that ever before on exploiting people from poor countries.


Don' worry. Chinese have decided to block Chinese Goods going to USA by 
forcing Chinese manufacturers to raise the prices of all goods going to 
USA by 30%. Trump also wants to put tariff on Chinese imports so a 60% 
hike in prices is going to hurt American consumers. There is no way USA 
or Europeans can build factories in 4 years time (trumps tenure in 
office) so inflation is a very likely scenario.

Chinese can afford to do this because their average annual growth rate 
is 5% so a small dent in this figure is not going to affect them so much 
as Trump thinks it will.

For too long USA and Europeans have subcontracted most factory jobs to 
China and India and their own factories have been destroyed because 
there was no need for them. Chinese and Indians have capitalised on this 
by building the factories in their own country.

When you buy something on eBay, goods are transported from China so they 
can afford to sell things cheaply. AliExpress (I think this is part of 
Alibaba - competitor to Amazon) also exports from China to worldwide 
customers.

Electronic stuff will cost more from 21st January 2025 and Amazon has 
run out of stock because Chinese had planned this long time ago.

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#181124

FromPaul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Date2025-01-05 12:50 -0500
Message-ID<vlegpt$15057$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#181120
On Sun, 1/5/2025 8:14 AM, John C. wrote:
> My copy of Windows 10 Pro is now so riddled with problems and
> non-functional modules that it's at the point where it may be time to
> look at another operating system. So what's causing this issue?

You could do a Repair Install.

It's one of the fastest ways to correct a myriad off issues.

   Paul

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#181125

FromNewyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam>
Date2025-01-05 13:05 -0500
Message-ID<vlehkf$15515$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#181124
On 1/5/2025 12:50 PM, Paul wrote:
> On Sun, 1/5/2025 8:14 AM, John C. wrote:
>> My copy of Windows 10 Pro is now so riddled with problems and
>> non-functional modules that it's at the point where it may be time to
>> look at another operating system. So what's causing this issue?
> 
> You could do a Repair Install.
> 
> It's one of the fastest ways to correct a myriad off issues.
> 

   Do you really find that? Actual corruption of system files
is likely to be extremely rare. At the same time, if all settings
are kept as before, nothing is really changed. If I were going
to try a repair install I'm make a disk image first. Some people
might be happy to have Windows back to Day 1. Others would
be horrified.

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#181126

FromPaul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Date2025-01-05 13:38 -0500
Message-ID<vlejjv$15h5a$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#181125
On Sun, 1/5/2025 1:05 PM, Newyana2 wrote:
> On 1/5/2025 12:50 PM, Paul wrote:
>> On Sun, 1/5/2025 8:14 AM, John C. wrote:
>>> My copy of Windows 10 Pro is now so riddled with problems and
>>> non-functional modules that it's at the point where it may be time to
>>> look at another operating system. So what's causing this issue?
>>
>> You could do a Repair Install.
>>
>> It's one of the fastest ways to correct a myriad off issues.
>>
> 
>   Do you really find that? Actual corruption of system files
> is likely to be extremely rare. At the same time, if all settings
> are kept as before, nothing is really changed. If I were going
> to try a repair install I'm make a disk image first. Some people
> might be happy to have Windows back to Day 1. Others would
> be horrified.

It all depends on which of your original manipulations, you
kept notes of the things that worked well. Then you can
carry on with your modifications.

And if you want to experiment with other OSes, you can
place them in a virtual machine, and not risk busting
anything. The contents aren't important here, it's just
what is set up for test at the moment. The OS on the
left (booted) allows me to access Disk Management and
see the partition which is half-way through an installation.
I will be asking CoPilot in a moment, what I can do to fix
the one on the right -- I'm expecting a daft and context-free
answer.

    [Picture]

     https://i.postimg.cc/YSKxq2sD/Test-OSes-In-A-Box.gif

  Paul

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#181129

FromChar Jackson <none@none.invalid>
Date2025-01-05 13:20 -0600
Message-ID<9nmlnjpub7inou87m6ik9pf7ebol7op59a@4ax.com>
In reply to#181126
On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 13:38:55 -0500, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

>On Sun, 1/5/2025 1:05 PM, Newyana2 wrote:
>> On 1/5/2025 12:50 PM, Paul wrote:
>>> On Sun, 1/5/2025 8:14 AM, John C. wrote:
>>>> My copy of Windows 10 Pro is now so riddled with problems and
>>>> non-functional modules that it's at the point where it may be time to
>>>> look at another operating system. So what's causing this issue?
>>>
>>> You could do a Repair Install.
>>>
>>> It's one of the fastest ways to correct a myriad off issues.
>>>
>> 
>>   Do you really find that? Actual corruption of system files
>> is likely to be extremely rare. At the same time, if all settings
>> are kept as before, nothing is really changed. If I were going
>> to try a repair install I'm make a disk image first. Some people
>> might be happy to have Windows back to Day 1. Others would
>> be horrified.
>
>It all depends on which of your original manipulations, you
>kept notes of the things that worked well. Then you can
>carry on with your modifications.
>
>And if you want to experiment with other OSes, you can
>place them in a virtual machine, and not risk busting
>anything. The contents aren't important here, it's just
>what is set up for test at the moment. The OS on the
>left (booted) allows me to access Disk Management and
>see the partition which is half-way through an installation.
>I will be asking CoPilot in a moment, what I can do to fix
>the one on the right -- I'm expecting a daft and context-free
>answer.
>
>    [Picture]
>
>     https://i.postimg.cc/YSKxq2sD/Test-OSes-In-A-Box.gif

If you've ever wanted to experiment with VMware Workstation Pro but were put off
by the cost, be advised that they made it free as of November 2024. IMHO, it's a
very substantial upgrade from VMware Player.

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#181130

FromPaul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Date2025-01-05 14:53 -0500
Message-ID<vlenvu$16bpe$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#181129
On Sun, 1/5/2025 2:20 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
> On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 13:38:55 -0500, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, 1/5/2025 1:05 PM, Newyana2 wrote:
>>> On 1/5/2025 12:50 PM, Paul wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 1/5/2025 8:14 AM, John C. wrote:
>>>>> My copy of Windows 10 Pro is now so riddled with problems and
>>>>> non-functional modules that it's at the point where it may be time to
>>>>> look at another operating system. So what's causing this issue?
>>>>
>>>> You could do a Repair Install.
>>>>
>>>> It's one of the fastest ways to correct a myriad off issues.
>>>>
>>>
>>>   Do you really find that? Actual corruption of system files
>>> is likely to be extremely rare. At the same time, if all settings
>>> are kept as before, nothing is really changed. If I were going
>>> to try a repair install I'm make a disk image first. Some people
>>> might be happy to have Windows back to Day 1. Others would
>>> be horrified.
>>
>> It all depends on which of your original manipulations, you
>> kept notes of the things that worked well. Then you can
>> carry on with your modifications.
>>
>> And if you want to experiment with other OSes, you can
>> place them in a virtual machine, and not risk busting
>> anything. The contents aren't important here, it's just
>> what is set up for test at the moment. The OS on the
>> left (booted) allows me to access Disk Management and
>> see the partition which is half-way through an installation.
>> I will be asking CoPilot in a moment, what I can do to fix
>> the one on the right -- I'm expecting a daft and context-free
>> answer.
>>
>>    [Picture]
>>
>>     https://i.postimg.cc/YSKxq2sD/Test-OSes-In-A-Box.gif
> 
> If you've ever wanted to experiment with VMware Workstation Pro but were put off
> by the cost, be advised that they made it free as of November 2024. IMHO, it's a
> very substantial upgrade from VMware Player.
> 

It may be downloaded, somewhere around here.

VMWare have some nice automations on their stuff. For example,
when I resized that container and made it bigger for a second
OS installation, it seemed to have moved the secondary GPT
table up to the new end of storage, without being asked.
I think there may be a compaction feature worth owning as well.
On VirtualBox, some of that is to be done manually.

But most of my machines are in VirtualBox. The interface is
a lot easier, and not cranky. I only do Windows 11 work in
the VMWare one.

The least cranky interface ever, was Conectix VirtualPC, which
did not bother with identifiers and preventing you from mixing
"this with that". With VirtualPC, you were in control. It
took Microsoft a while to ruin that :-) The Windows 7 version
has Terminal Services in the graphics stack, and is busted for
ordinary VirtualPC work. Graphics were glitchy, and I even had
a crash due to the graphics one day. The WinXP feature worked
just fine, by comparison.

    Paul

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#181131

FromPaul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Date2025-01-05 15:19 -0500
Message-ID<vleph6$16le9$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#181129
On Sun, 1/5/2025 2:20 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
> On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 13:38:55 -0500, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, 1/5/2025 1:05 PM, Newyana2 wrote:
>>> On 1/5/2025 12:50 PM, Paul wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 1/5/2025 8:14 AM, John C. wrote:
>>>>> My copy of Windows 10 Pro is now so riddled with problems and
>>>>> non-functional modules that it's at the point where it may be time to
>>>>> look at another operating system. So what's causing this issue?
>>>>
>>>> You could do a Repair Install.
>>>>
>>>> It's one of the fastest ways to correct a myriad off issues.
>>>>
>>>
>>>   Do you really find that? Actual corruption of system files
>>> is likely to be extremely rare. At the same time, if all settings
>>> are kept as before, nothing is really changed. If I were going
>>> to try a repair install I'm make a disk image first. Some people
>>> might be happy to have Windows back to Day 1. Others would
>>> be horrified.
>>
>> It all depends on which of your original manipulations, you
>> kept notes of the things that worked well. Then you can
>> carry on with your modifications.
>>
>> And if you want to experiment with other OSes, you can
>> place them in a virtual machine, and not risk busting
>> anything. The contents aren't important here, it's just
>> what is set up for test at the moment. The OS on the
>> left (booted) allows me to access Disk Management and
>> see the partition which is half-way through an installation.
>> I will be asking CoPilot in a moment, what I can do to fix
>> the one on the right -- I'm expecting a daft and context-free
>> answer.
>>
>>    [Picture]
>>
>>     https://i.postimg.cc/YSKxq2sD/Test-OSes-In-A-Box.gif
> 
> If you've ever wanted to experiment with VMware Workstation Pro but were put off
> by the cost, be advised that they made it free as of November 2024. IMHO, it's a
> very substantial upgrade from VMware Player.
> 

OK, I asked CoPilot what to do with this, and it said to use
the Control Panel. But the Control Panel does not list
the volume that does not have a drive letter. This is what worked.
I had to switch my Admin Powershell to cmd.exe so the command
would be parsed without extra escape characters.

********

    Size:                 52.37 GB
    BitLocker Version:    2.0
    Conversion Status:    Used Space Only Encrypted
    Percentage Encrypted: 100.0%
    Encryption Method:    XTS-AES 128
    Protection Status:    Protection Off
    Lock Status:          Unlocked
    Identification Field: Unknown
    Automatic Unlock:     Disabled
    Key Protectors:       None Found

PS > cmd
Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.22631.4169]
(c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

> manage-bde -off \\?\Volume{9ae767d1-acc9-4f20-96cb-1dee33df598a}\

BitLocker Drive Encryption: Configuration Tool version 10.0.22621
Copyright (C) 2013 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

Decryption is now in progress.
>

*******

Now, we'll see what happens when the installer finds out
what I've done :-) I'm sure the boffins have logic for this,
and they'll throw the handcuffs back on.

   Paul

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#181139

FromSimon GAHHH Creator <noreply@GAHHH.com>
Date2025-01-06 02:02 +0000
Message-ID<vlfemv$11n7c$1@paganini.bofh.team>
In reply to#181120
On 05/01/2025 13:14, John C. wrote:
> My copy of Windows 10 Pro is now so riddled with problems and
> non-functional modules that it's at the point where it may be time to
> look at another operating system. So what's causing this issue?
> 
> India has taken over Microsoft. If you don't believe me, go here:
> 
> https://www.q
> 
> And they are doing a piss-poor job of coding Windows. There are those
> who will call me racist, and you can bet that those who do so are most
> likely going to be Microsoft shills.
> 
> Also see:
> 
> https://en.wik
> 
> America is led by a pack of fools for allowing this to happen.
> 


You forgot to mention your own lack of education and ability to use 
modern technology. People always blame somebody but not realising that 
they, themselves are completely brain dead because of alcohol, drugs, 
dementia, Parkinson or old age. There are more brain dead people in USA 
or Europe than in China or India.

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#181156

From"John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com>
Date2025-01-06 15:23 -0800
Message-ID<vlhom4$1rmp1$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#181139
Simon GAHHH Creator wrote:
> John C. wrote:
>> My copy of Windows 10 Pro is now so riddled with problems and
>> non-functional modules that it's at the point where it may be time to
>> look at another operating system. So what's causing this issue?
>>
>> India has taken over Microsoft. If you don't believe me, go here:
>>
>> https://www.q
>>
>> And they are doing a piss-poor job of coding Windows. There are those
>> who will call me racist, and you can bet that those who do so are most
>> likely going to be Microsoft shills.
>>
>> Also see:
>>
>> https://en.wik
>>
>> America is led by a pack of fools for allowing this to happen.
> 
> You forgot to mention your own lack of education and ability to use 
> modern technology. People always blame somebody but not realising that 
> they, themselves are completely brain dead because of alcohol, drugs, 
> dementia, Parkinson or old age. There are more brain dead people in USA 
> or Europe than in China or India.

And here it is: the shill.

Stinky bait, troll.

-- 
John C.

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#181145

From"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
Date2025-01-06 16:41 +0800
Message-ID<vlg4vm$1hjg9$1@toylet.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#181120
On 5/1/2025 9:14 pm, John C. wrote:
> 
> India has taken over Microsoft. If you don't believe me, go here:
> 
> https://www.quora.com/Why-are-there-so-many-Indians-in-Microsoft-and-Google
> 
> And they are doing a piss-poor job of coding Windows. There are those
> who will call me racist, and you can bet that those who do so are most
> likely going to be Microsoft shills.

This kind of topics should go to alt.conspiracy!! :)

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#181198

FromT <T@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-01-09 12:43 -0800
Message-ID<vlpcdt$3hc2i$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#181120
Hi John,

Did you need some help with this or did you just
need to blow off some stream?

There are some things you can do that help.

-T

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#181201

FromBrian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid>
Date2025-01-09 22:01 +0000
Message-ID<luav9bF4mcU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#181120
On 05/01/2025 13:14, John C. wrote:
> My copy of Windows 10 Pro is now so riddled with problems and
> non-functional modules that it's at the point where it may be time to
> look at another operating system. So what's causing this issue?
> 
> India has taken over Microsoft. If you don't believe me, go here:
> 
> https://www.quora.com/Why-are-there-so-many-Indians-in-Microsoft-and-Google
> 
> And they are doing a piss-poor job of coding Windows. There are those
> who will call me racist, and you can bet that those who do so are most
> likely going to be Microsoft shills.
> 
> Also see:
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satya_Nadella
> 
> America is led by a pack of fools for allowing this to happen.

How has the fact that Windows is getting bigger and bigger with more and 
more code that nobody has touched in years been discarded as a possible 
cause?

-- 
Brian Gregory (in England).

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#181202

FromT <T@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-01-09 14:21 -0800
Message-ID<vlpi65$3hc2j$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#181201
On 1/9/25 14:01, Brian Gregory wrote:

> How has the fact that Windows is getting bigger and bigger with more and 
> more code that nobody has touched in years been discarded as a possible 
> cause?
> 

1+.  You have a point.  Tiny-11

  
https://www.auslogics.com/en/articles/what-is-tiny11-install-tiny-windows-11-to-lightweight-your-os/
      https://archive.org/details/tiny11-2311
      https://archive.org/download/tiny11-2311

Which is a stripped version of W-11, runs stable and fast.
Almost as fast as Linux.

W-11 has no:
   one drive
   idiot hardware requirement
   spyware account
   Edge (no browser at all)
   CoPilot
   Recall
   preinstalled games
   loads of other crap

All my customer with mew W11 computers request Tiny-11
when I explain the difference.  And Tiny-11 uses the
embedded Widows license from the the motherboard.  It
is W11, just a lot less.

-T


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#181208

FromNewyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam>
Date2025-01-09 22:28 -0500
Message-ID<vlq44g$3pcdo$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#181202
On 1/9/2025 5:21 PM, T wrote:
> On 1/9/25 14:01, Brian Gregory wrote:
> 
>> How has the fact that Windows is getting bigger and bigger with more 
>> and more code that nobody has touched in years been discarded as a 
>> possible cause?
>>
> 
> 1+.  You have a point.  Tiny-11
> 
> 
    I'm currently running Win10 and have just set up a dual boot
of 100/11. My setup is similar to what you describe with Tiny11.
A separate, custom installer is not needed.

   What I'm doing is to install and then get all the latest updates.
Then install Classic Shell and Winaero Tweaker to clean up the
mess. (Can Tiny11 offer a usable Start Menu? I'm guessing not.)

    Run PowerShell command to uninstall the apps. Take
ownership of the WindowsApps folder and delete what's left.
Remove Edge and delete those files. Install Simplewall and block
Microsoft there. Run Windows Update Blocker to lock out
updates... Etc.

   I haven't finished cleaning Win11 yet, but it seems to be
fixable. However, the system as installed is radically different
from the cleaned up version. It's really designed now to be
interactive TV with ads. And that's just the basics, along
with News and Interests and so on. But so far I haven't
found anything that I can't remove, including UAC, without
a lot of work. It just requires finding the tweak details.

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#181209

FromT <T@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-01-09 19:42 -0800
Message-ID<vlq4uo$3l3bs$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#181208
On 1/9/25 19:28, Newyana2 wrote:
> Remove Edge


I still have not figured out how to remove installed
Edge.  How did you do it?

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