Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]
Groups > alt.comp.os.windows-10 > #183824 > unrolled thread
| Started by | micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> |
|---|---|
| First post | 2025-04-19 22:34 -0400 |
| Last post | 2025-04-21 12:08 -0400 |
| Articles | 10 on this page of 110 — 17 participants |
Back to article view | Back to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Mechanical or SSD for backup drive micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-19 22:34 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-20 03:48 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-04-20 09:27 +0100
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-20 20:23 +0200
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-20 16:55 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-21 14:42 +0200
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-21 21:22 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-22 20:15 +1000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-22 16:52 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-04-23 00:37 +0100
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-04-23 17:45 +0100
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-24 20:56 +1000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-24 22:37 +0200
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-24 21:48 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-25 05:32 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-25 20:14 +1000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-25 13:37 +0200
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-25 23:32 +1000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-25 20:20 +0200
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-04-25 22:02 +0100
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-26 19:44 +1000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-26 21:00 +1000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-26 20:07 +0200
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-26 17:20 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-27 14:17 +0200
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-26 19:24 +0000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-26 22:28 +0200
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-04-27 11:36 +0100
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-28 00:16 +1000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2025-04-28 21:22 +0100
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-29 22:37 +1000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-29 17:27 +0000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-29 17:48 +0000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 21:09 +0200
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-30 19:24 +1000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-04-30 20:20 +0100
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-30 19:10 +0000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2025-04-30 15:49 +0100
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-29 17:21 +0000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-29 15:26 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-30 19:14 +0000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-04-29 17:18 -0500
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-04-30 22:21 +0000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Sam E <no.email@here.invalid> - 2025-05-01 16:46 +0000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-03 22:39 +1000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-05-03 19:18 +0000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-06 22:44 +1000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-06 14:13 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-01 00:32 +1000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-30 13:10 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-30 19:20 +0000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-04-30 22:24 +0000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-04 15:23 +0200
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-04 15:07 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-04 22:51 +0200
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-05-04 19:57 +0000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-03 22:44 +1000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2025-04-30 16:19 +0100
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-30 19:31 +0000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-06 22:53 +1000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-30 19:12 +0000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 21:18 +0200
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2025-04-28 21:42 +0100
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-04-25 19:04 +0100
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-25 23:33 +0200
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-26 20:04 +1000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-26 21:05 +1000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-23 19:26 +1000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Sam E <no.email@here.invalid> - 2025-04-22 23:00 +0000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-04-23 00:40 +0100
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-20 07:15 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-20 11:11 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-20 12:08 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-04-20 12:38 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-04-20 12:31 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-04-21 02:38 +0000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-21 03:52 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-21 11:51 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-21 21:13 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-04-22 06:07 +0000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-22 05:34 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-21 07:40 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-21 09:12 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-04-21 14:54 +0100
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-04-21 15:29 +0100
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-04-21 16:06 +0100
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-21 17:45 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-04-22 00:15 +0100
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-04-21 23:01 -0500
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-04-22 06:58 +0100
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-22 05:47 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-04-22 10:37 -0500
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-22 14:34 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-21 11:38 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-21 18:29 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-21 22:23 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-21 14:05 +0000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Mr Xi Ji Ping <ping@china.cn> - 2025-04-21 15:30 +0000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-04-21 11:28 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-15 21:33 +1000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-05-15 07:41 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-15 14:06 +0200
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-15 09:31 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-15 23:36 +1000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-05-15 23:26 +0000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-05-15 14:27 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-16 18:38 +1000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-05-16 14:51 +0000
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-05-16 11:06 -0400
Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-21 12:08 -0400
Page 6 of 6 — ← Prev page 1 2 3 4 5 [6]
| From | knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-05-15 07:41 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <1004jse$33mmt$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #184459 |
On 05/15/2025 7:33 AM, Daniel70 wrote: > On 22/04/2025 1:28 am, ...winston wrote: > > <Snip> > >> W/R Old computer >> - image backups are a good idea. Also necessary to consider that an >> image backup may not have all desired/harvest-able data and other >> important files(program installers, music, photos) >> > Why NOT?? Surely an Image Back-up is an 'image' of the Drives File > contents AT THAT TIME. While an image back up is good for a business, a data back up seems to be a better idea for the individual. By doing a data back up, in the worse case, the individual has a chance to review the software he has installed, and reinstall with a current version if he still needs that software. This is the same as moving to a new house. Since everything in the old house has to be removed, the move gives you a chance to review everything and throw out what you do not need any more.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-05-15 14:06 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mu1hflxade.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #184460 |
On 2025-05-15 13:41, knuttle wrote: > On 05/15/2025 7:33 AM, Daniel70 wrote: >> On 22/04/2025 1:28 am, ...winston wrote: >> >> <Snip> >> >>> W/R Old computer >>> - image backups are a good idea. Also necessary to consider that an >>> image backup may not have all desired/harvest-able data and other >>> important files(program installers, music, photos) >>> >> Why NOT?? Surely an Image Back-up is an 'image' of the Drives File >> contents AT THAT TIME. > While an image back up is good for a business, a data back up seems to > be a better idea for the individual. By doing a data back up, in the > worse case, the individual has a chance to review the software he has > installed, and reinstall with a current version if he still needs that > software. > > This is the same as moving to a new house. Since everything in the old > house has to be removed, the move gives you a chance to review > everything and throw out what you do not need any more. Even for individuals. An image backup, done when the computer is stable and clean, is very fast to restore. The strategy can be to complement with incremental file backups in between them. -- Cheers, Carlos.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-05-15 09:31 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <1004qb0$351oj$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #184460 |
On Thu, 5/15/2025 7:41 AM, knuttle wrote:
> On 05/15/2025 7:33 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
>> On 22/04/2025 1:28 am, ...winston wrote:
>>
>> <Snip>
>>
>>> W/R Old computer
>>> - image backups are a good idea. Also necessary to consider that an image backup may not have all desired/harvest-able data and other important files(program installers, music, photos)
>>>
>> Why NOT?? Surely an Image Back-up is an 'image' of the Drives File contents AT THAT TIME.
> While an image back up is good for a business, a data back up seems to be a better idea for the individual. By doing a data back up, in the worse case, the individual has a chance to review the software he has installed, and reinstall with a current version if he still needs that software.
>
> This is the same as moving to a new house. Since everything in the old house has to be removed, the move gives you a chance to review everything and throw out what you do not need any more.
Image files can be mounted, as if they are partitions.
[Picture]
https://i.postimg.cc/jj8zH4xm/backup-images-can-be-mounted-for-random-access.gif
In the example, C: was backed up via Macrium imaging,
that makes the MRIMG file, then you can select "Mount"
for the MRIMG and assign it a drive letter for temporary
read access (as K: ). If I needed to get a copy of files out
of my Downloads folder on K: , it takes no time at all
and does not require a "Restore".
Ghost may have had this first. Acronis has it. And so on.
The only one that does not make a point of pointing this
out, is the Windows 7 Backup provided by Microsoft. You can
do it, but the details are up to you to figure out. Maybe it
would work on Win11 Pro, with the right options enabled
in Windows Features (depends on whether files have
extension .vhd or .vhdx as to what to do).
*******
You can also mount a partition which exists inside a disk dump .img file.
That can be done with a loopback mount with offset, in Linux. On the Windows
side, you can gain access like that via 7ZIP. 7ZIP makes the partitions visible.
Depending on version that can work in a pretty slick fashion.
Paul
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-05-15 23:36 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <1004qlj$353gu$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #184460 |
On 15/05/2025 9:41 pm, knuttle wrote: > On 05/15/2025 7:33 AM, Daniel70 wrote: >> On 22/04/2025 1:28 am, ...winston wrote: >> >> <Snip> >> >>> W/R Old computer >>> - image backups are a good idea. Also necessary to consider that an >>> image backup may not have all desired/harvest-able data and other >>> important files(program installers, music, photos) >>> >> Why NOT?? Surely an Image Back-up is an 'image' of the Drives File >> contents AT THAT TIME. > While an image back up is good for a business, a data back up seems to > be a better idea for the individual. By doing a data back up, in the > worse case, the individual has a chance to review the software he has > installed, and reinstall with a current version if he still needs that > software. .... which is, sort of, why I had my old Win7 Laptop set up the way I did. C:\ Drive was for Win7 System stuff. D:\ Drive was for executables *I* installed (Browser, LOffice, etc) E:\ Drive was for Data (e-mail, Letters, Games, etc) But so many programs wanted to go where THEY wanted to go, not where I wanted!! > This is the same as moving to a new house. Since everything in the old > house has to be removed, the move gives you a chance to review > everything and throw out what you do not need any more. Yeap! -- Daniel70
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-05-15 23:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <1005t68$3c5jr$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #184464 |
In alt.comp.os.windows-10 Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
> On 15/05/2025 9:41 pm, knuttle wrote:
> > On 05/15/2025 7:33 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
> >> On 22/04/2025 1:28 am, ...winston wrote:
> >>
> >> <Snip>
> >>
> >>> W/R Old computer
> >>> - image backups are a good idea. Also necessary to consider that an
> >>> image backup may not have all desired/harvest-able data and other
> >>> important files(program installers, music, photos)
> >>>
> >> Why NOT?? Surely an Image Back-up is an 'image' of the Drives File
> >> contents AT THAT TIME.
> > While an image back up is good for a business, a data back up seems to
> > be a better idea for the individual. By doing a data back up, in the
> > worse case, the individual has a chance to review the software he has
> > installed, and reinstall with a current version if he still needs that
> > software.
> .... which is, sort of, why I had my old Win7 Laptop set up the way I did.
> C:\ Drive was for Win7 System stuff.
> D:\ Drive was for executables *I* installed (Browser, LOffice, etc)
> E:\ Drive was for Data (e-mail, Letters, Games, etc)
> But so many programs wanted to go where THEY wanted to go, not where I
> wanted!!
Yeah, annoying specially when they use shared files. I gave up and just
install softwares into C:\winstuff\programname if they let me. Also,
easier todo back ups and restores. All my data like works, medias, etc.
are on another drive.
--
"And you must love the Lord your God with all your heart, all your soul, and all your strength". --Deuteronomy 6:5. BUSY weekdays w. updates, spams, appts., works, etc.
Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly.
/\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.home.dhs.org.
/ /\ /\ \ Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail.
| |o o| |
\ _ /
( )
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-05-15 14:27 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <1005bn9$38us9$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #184459 |
Daniel70 wrote: > On 22/04/2025 1:28 am, ...winston wrote: > > <Snip> > >> W/R Old computer >> - image backups are a good idea. Also necessary to consider that an >> image backup may not have all desired/harvest-able data and other >> important files(program installers, music, photos) >> > Why NOT?? Surely an Image Back-up is an 'image' of the Drives File > contents AT THAT TIME. Not every single user's system/device has everything on the main disk. - believing that every main disk holds everything(os/data/etc.) or that one's own device is like everyone else is too narrow, akin to tunnel vision. As noted earlier...image backups are a good idea but not necessarily all-inclusive. -- ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-05-16 18:38 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <1006tif$3m4k3$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #184468 |
On 16/05/2025 4:27 am, ...winston wrote: > Daniel70 wrote: >> On 22/04/2025 1:28 am, ...winston wrote: >> >> <Snip> >> >>> W/R Old computer >>> - image backups are a good idea. Also necessary to consider that an >>> image backup may not have all desired/harvest-able data and other >>> important files(program installers, music, photos) >>> >> Why NOT?? Surely an Image Back-up is an 'image' of the Drives File >> contents AT THAT TIME. > > Not every single user's system/device has everything on the main disk. In that case, 'they' shouldn't be talking about DISK (Main or Otherwise) but DISKS!! > - believing that every main disk holds everything(os/data/etc.) or that > one's own device is like everyone else is too narrow, akin to tunnel > vision. > > As noted earlier...image backups are a good idea but not necessarily > all-inclusive. > > -- Daniel70
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-05-16 14:51 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <1007qf5.ot0.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #184471 |
Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote: > On 16/05/2025 4:27 am, ...winston wrote: > > Daniel70 wrote: > >> On 22/04/2025 1:28 am, ...winston wrote: > >> > >> <Snip> > >> > >>> W/R Old computer > >>> - image backups are a good idea. Also necessary to consider that an > >>> image backup may not have all desired/harvest-able data and other > >>> important files(program installers, music, photos) > >>> > >> Why NOT?? Surely an Image Back-up is an 'image' of the Drives File > >> contents AT THAT TIME. > > > > Not every single user's system/device has everything on the main disk. > > In that case, 'they' shouldn't be talking about DISK (Main or Otherwise) > but DISKS!! Well, even for single disk systems, Winston's point still holds, because that single disk can have multiple (user) *partitions* and most image backup is partition-based, not diskdrive-based. So one might have a disk with muliple partitions, but only make image backup of the C: partition, not D:, etc.. And make file-level backup of D:, etc.. So Winston's point was just a warning, that's all. > > - believing that every main disk holds everything(os/data/etc.) or that > > one's own device is like everyone else is too narrow, akin to tunnel > > vision. > > > > As noted earlier...image backups are a good idea but not necessarily > > all-inclusive.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-05-16 11:06 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <1007k9t$3qp99$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #184471 |
Daniel70 wrote: > On 16/05/2025 4:27 am, ...winston wrote: >> Daniel70 wrote: >>> On 22/04/2025 1:28 am, ...winston wrote: >>> >>> <Snip> >>> >>>> W/R Old computer >>>> - image backups are a good idea. Also necessary to consider that >>>> an image backup may not have all desired/harvest-able data and other >>>> important files(program installers, music, photos) >>>> >>> Why NOT?? Surely an Image Back-up is an 'image' of the Drives File >>> contents AT THAT TIME. >> >> Not every single user's system/device has everything on the main disk. > > In that case, 'they' shouldn't be talking about DISK (Main or Otherwise) > but DISKS!! Who is 'they'? The original post, never clarified the number of disks or partitions on the number of disks. The original post never clearly clarified the type of content and the source type(disk, disks, SDXC card) stored(image, backup data) on the backup disk Subsequent posts alluded to multiple driver letters yet never clarifying partitions or other disks. Thus, until clarification...it remains premature to assume that all content is on a one single 'disk'. > >> - believing that every main disk holds everything(os/data/etc.) or >> that one's own device is like everyone else is too narrow, akin to >> tunnel vision. >> >> As noted earlier...image backups are a good idea but not necessarily >> all-inclusive. >> >> -- ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-04-21 12:08 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ukqc0khtb3gkbcuvpcv03cbq80esvuinee@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #183854 |
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on 21 Apr 2025 14:05:01 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote: >micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote: >> The small 2 Terabyte WD Elements external backup drive I paid $60 for 4 >> years ago is now $80. > > Didn't some guy do something with something called 'tariffs'!? :-) Yeah, that's probably part of it. I don't think it's all of it. > > FWIW, my last disk purchase was also a 2TB WD Elements. Nice devices. Good to know. I've not had trouble with the one I have. >> I thought computer stuff was supposed to get >> cheaper with time!! (Well, that was last week. tonight it's down to >> 70.) >> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06W55K9N6?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_2 >> >> It's mechanical. A solid state drive the same size is almost twice as >> much. (The cheapest on Amazon is $112. Well, Vanzuny is 109, but I >> never heard of Vanzuny.) >> >> 1) Would you spend almost twice as much for a drive just used for >> backups? Speed is not an issue. The current one is plenty fast. And >> damage is not an issue: I rarely go out of town and when I do I don't >> take my bacup drive, although in the past they were 5 1/2" drives. Now >> they are much smaller and I could if you told me I should.) > > No, I would not buy a SSD drive for backup and *did* take my 1TB WD >Elements all over the world, several times, and also in a 4WD on highly >corrugated dirt/gravel roads for hundreds of kilometres, no problem. Good to know. You're the first one to addresss this. > >> 2) Do you keep your backup files for an old computer, when you've copied >> everythign to the newer computer? Since all the data files have been >> copied to the new computer, I could, to save m money, erase the old >> computer files and use it for the new one and I wouldn't have to buy a >> new drive. Good idea? > > If you've really copied *everything* - not just what you thought of - >you could delete the old copy, *after* you've made (full) backup of the >new computer. I.e. at all times, you should have at least two copies of >all your files, one on the active computer, one on a backup device. > > That said, before 'decomissioning' the old computer, I make - at least >- a full image backup of it and keep *that*. So if I ever need anything >from that old computer, and assuming that the same image backup/restore >program (currently Macrium Reflect) (still) works on my current >computer, I can still restore any file(s) I might need. I get it. I should have said, for the sake of those who think I don't need a second drive, that I back up the desktop also on the same first drive, so that takes up space too. Although since I moved email and Usenet and daily use in general to the laptop, the only changes to the desktop are looking at webpages and I wouldn't save that anyhow. . > FWIW, I currently have image backup of my two earlier computers (Vista >and 8.1). Current computer is Windows 11. I lost some stuff in a crash but there have only been one or two things I wish I had. (One was an unfinished email to a guy who doesn't talk to me anyhow. He ghosted me because we have different political views. He likes the guy with the tariffs, and got mad because I didn't want to be on his political mailing list. He had sent me a 14-point email and I'd found that 7 points were false, and I was working on the other 7 when the crash destroyed it. I wish I'd replied about the 7 that were false, but he's a devoted member of the cult and it probably would not have swayed him.)
[toc] | [prev] | [standalone]
Page 6 of 6 — ← Prev page 1 2 3 4 5 [6]
Back to top | Article view | alt.comp.os.windows-10
csiph-web