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Re: Different levels of sleep.

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On 01/05/2025 09:59, micky wrote:
> In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Thu, 1 May 2025 08:28:17 +0200, "R.Wieser"
> <address@is.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> Micky,
>>
>>> I've been annoyed that a slight movement of the mouse wakes the PC
>>> up (and I was suspecting that timing out gave differewnt  results
>>> from using Start/Sleep, but that's not it.)
>>
>> You might well be confusing "sleep" with the screen-saver and the "switch
>> off the monitor" state.
> 
> I don't think so. I pointed out that I was not talking about timing out,
> but then I confused things, my bad, by referring in part that you
> snipped to "going into sleep".  But I'm  not referring to something it
> does without my input, but in all cases to something I do, namely
> clicking on the Windows button in the bottom left (what I think used to
> be called Start), and then the arrow in the Shutdown list, and then
> Sleep.
> 
> 
>>   On my 'puter the screen saver becomes active
>> first, and some time after that the monitor "switches off" (goes to black).
> 
> Mine does that too, but I"m not counting that.
> 
>> FYI: The program thats running has *no* control over the sleep state your
>> 'puter will be in.
> 
> Maybe that was the rule at one time, but I'm reporting what happens now,
> in win10, and it seems to depend on what window has focus.   For
> comparison, the window that has focus determines whether the Mute and
> volume buttons work or not.  I haven't kept a list but one example is
> that when Task Manager is open, the mute and volume buttons don't work
> (at least the 3 keys I have assigned to those duties by Autohotkey).
> 
>> The reverse however sometimes happens : it a program might tell the 'puter
>> that it should not enter a screen-saver / sleep state at all (think of
>> watching a movie or listening to music.  You don't want your 'puter to
>> "switch off" in the middle of it).
>>
>> By the way, normally when a 'puter goes into "sleep" mode most indicator
>> lights (like caps and scrollock) will go off - but one, indicating (to you,
>> the user) that the 'puter is sleeping, and not powered-down.
> 
> Let me add that when I click on Windows (what I called Start
> before)/Shutdown/Sleep the Acer power-indicator light stays blue for 30
> seconds and then switches to flashing red**.    When I tap the space
> bar, the light immediately changes to blue and a few seconds later the
> screen lights up again.  Perhaps people will say it wasn't really
> sleeping, but in every instance I clicked on Sleep.  So maybe that
> button is mislabeled.
> 
> **The Acer owners manual doesn't say what the flashing red light should
> mean.
> 
> Unfortunately, I'm embarrassed to say that I haven't duplicated the
> results I got 4 hours ago, before my first post.  That is, this time,
> the same thing happened while in Solitaire as in Eudora, Agent, or
> Notepad, and mouse movement didn't waken the computer even in Solitaire.
> Last night and many prior nights going back weeks or months, and 4 hours
> ago, it happened over and over and over that accidentally touching the
> mouse would light up the screen, even after clicking on Sleep.  I'll
> have to do some more testing or wait until it gets back to the way it's
> been for weeks, months.
> 
> None of this was noticeable before I started frequently sleeping in my
> desk chair, and wanting to turn off the screen light.  Before then, I
> almost never clicked on Sleep.  I just let it time out.
>>
>> By the way #2 : your puter has *two* sleep states, a "light", and a "deep"
>> sleep.  The former starts faster but uses battery.  The latter starts
>> slower, but needs some disk space.
> 
> Yes, I know.   My laptop is plugged in 99.99% of the time.
> 
>> Regards,
>> Rudy Wieser
>>
> John, I've enabled Hibernate, and it's listed in the Shutdown options,
> but that's not what I click on.

Presumably various settings including security and perhaps the BIOS have 
an effect.

Using Shut down, Sleep with my Acer Win 11 laptop blanks the screen but 
leaves the blue running diode on. A key press or mouse click has no 
effect regardless of whether or not any program is running. Restarting 
requires pressing the on/off key and entering a PIN as usual.

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