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Re: Why does Eudora work fine in win10, and for other people in win11, but not for me?

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On Fri, 2/21/2025 10:14 PM, micky wrote:
> This problem started off as a Eudora question, but seems to have two
> parts now, both of which have windows and internet ramifications. Is
> there an active internet/email group, not counting tthe Eudora ng this
> is already posted to? 
> 
> Many people using win11 are stiil happilly using Eudora 7.1.0.9 (Real
> Eudora, not with a 3-letter suffix which is a modified version of
> Thunderbird, etc.) but I have not been able to fetch or send email since
> I copied the files to the new win11 computer.  Any ideas so far what the
> problem is? 
> 
> 1) Like Forte Agent, Eudora will work fine and does not have to be
> installed, unless you want to make it the default mail program, or you
> want it to start when you click on a mailto or .mbx file.  And that's
> what I've been doing, just copying the files over, since win3.1, to
> win95, to 88SE to Vista, to win10, to win11. But now, the program works
> within itself, it loads and displays the already downloaded email, and
> you can click on a link in an email and the web browser will open it,
> but it won't fetch more email or send any.  Its error messages imply
> that a connection is made with each of 3 servers, Gmail, Erols/RCN, and
> Fastmail, but then the connection is broken right away before any mail
> is moved. 
> 
> It's been suggested that an AV or other security program is stopping it.
> I'm only using Windows Defender.   Or that the firewall is, but I added
> an entry in the windows firewall, for both public and private networks.
> Or that there is some proxy somewhere, but the Proxy page in Settings
> makes no mention of a list of programs, or of Eudora. 
> 
> At the footnote below is a typical session where I try to send one email
> and download from 3 servers.****
> 
> 2) It is nice if the program is installed, and last night I attempted to
> do so uisng the same install file I'mve used 5 or 10 times since 2010. I
> got a message that says it is blocked by "an administrator", but I am
> the only administrator.  No workaround was offered, like a button with
> the logo of an administrator on it.   I downloaded another copy from a
> different source, and it too was blocked.  Is Eudora on a hit list
> somewhere, or perhaps there is something in the file that Windows finds
> and used to declare an executablew worthy of being blocked?????  I have
> a hex-editor if I need to change something. 
> 
> I tried running the installer as an administrator, with no success. I
> tried going into Properties and increasing permissions until everything
> was checked.  And I tried suspecnding UAC (including restarting windows
> afterwards) and none of these worked.   Finally I saw suggested that I
> open a CMD box with adminitrative priveleges and execute the installer
> from that, and that worked fine. Eudora now appears on the list of
> installed programs and I made it the default for mailto and for .mbx
> files.   BUI, I still can't fetch or send email. 
> 
> Why were the installers blocked?    What other installers or other
> executables are blocked in Win11?  How does it decide? 
> 
> 
> ****So here is a typical session.  The last node of the pop3 IP
> addresses seems to change sometimes, after closing and reopening Eudora,
> and only one is the ame as what I saw using win10. Is that okay?
> 
> MAIN  16: 1.02 Preparing messages to Send: 0
> 9864  16: 1.02 Open <http://129.213.13.252:995>129.213.13.252:995
> 3824  16: 1.02 Open <http://172.253.115.108:995>172.253.115.108:995
> 1588  16: 1.02 Open <http://103.168.172.44:995>103.168.172.44:995
> 1692  16: 1.02 Open <http://103.168.172.45:465>103.168.172.45:465
> 3824 8: 1.12 Dialog: "Error reading from network\r\n"
> 3824 8: 1.12 Dialog: "\r\n"
> 3824 8: 1.12 Dialog: "Cause: Connection closed by foreign host. (0)"
> 9864 8: 2.02 Dialog: "Error reading from network\r\n"
> 9864 8: 2.02 Dialog: "\r\n"
> 9864 8: 2.02 Dialog: "Cause: Connection closed by foreign host. (0)"
> 1588 8: 2.02 Dialog: "Error reading from network\r\n"
> 1588 8: 2.02 Dialog: "\r\n"
> 1588 8: 2.02 Dialog: "Cause: Connection closed by foreign host. (0)"
> 1692 8: 2.02 Dialog: "Error reading from network\r\n"
> 1692 8: 2.02 Dialog: "\r\n"
> 1692 8: 2.02 Dialog: "Cause: Connection closed by foreign host. (0)"
> MAIN 16: 2.08 Filtering Sent Messages   [This probably appears always, 
> MAIN 16: 2.08 Filtering Sent Messages    since there were none.]
> MAIN 58623:10.04 Logging shutdown
> 

https://sourceforge.net/p/hermesmail/discussion/general/thread/f9c93debd8/

There is a suggestion to use STunnel  (995 465).

   Paul

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Why does Eudora work fine in win10, and for other people in win11, but not for me?  micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-21 22:14 -0500
  Re: Why does Eudora work fine in win10, and for other people in win11, but not for me? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-22 04:10 -0500
    Re: Why does Eudora work fine in win10, and for other people in win11, but not for me? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-22 11:37 -0500
      Re: Why does Eudora work fine in win10, and for other people in win11, but not for me? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-22 12:25 -0500
      Re: Why does Eudora work fine in win10, and for other people in win11, but not for me? ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 16:43 -0700
        Re: Why does Eudora work fine in win10, and for other people in win11, but not for me? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-23 01:07 -0500
      Re: Why does Eudora work fine in win10, and for other people in win11, but not for me? John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> - 2025-02-23 10:16 +0000
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