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Re: Wyat do these programs do with their time?

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On Thu, 2/6/2025 10:34 PM, micky wrote:
> Looking at Task Manager for the last 20+ minutes, waiting for Eudora to
> display the 2 or 3 emails it downloaded at the start of the 20+ minutes:
> Eudora using 15 to 25% of the CPU
> Firefox using in the low 40% of the CPU and
> Forte Agent about 15% of the CPU 
> 
> Eudora says for each of two email servers, "Completed. Waiting for new
> messages to display". Still, maybe it still has to filter the incoming
> mail.  I think there are only 2 emails pending, so it would normally do
> this in 5 or 10 seconds but lets say well under a minute.  Since it's
> been using about 20% of the CPU for 30 minutes now, that's 6 minutes, so
> what is it doing?  Can I assume almost all of its cpu time is spent
> swapping in and out with the other two main programs?  
>    Is this called thrashing? 
> 
> I'm not actively doing anything with Firefox but can I assume that any
> tabs that have youtube or advertising videos are playing those videos
> (without sound) and using CPU. I have many, many tabs and each video
> would use some CPU.  I can't imagine what else is.  Only Firefox has any
> disk usage.  Eudora and Agent have zero almost all the time, and only
> 0.1mb when they have some. 
> 
> How can Forte Agent use 15% of the CPU? I'm using it now to type, but
> most of this time Task Manager was on top, and I'm not using Agent at
> all.  AFAIK it's doing nothing at all, since I'm not there it to make it
> do something and I have nothing that runs automatically -- I turned that
> off 10+ years ago -- and nothing I started that is still running.
> Downloads and uploads are so quick now, that they finish almost as soon
> as I start them.   So what's it doing? 
> 
> That leaves about 20 or 25% of the CPU, but I'm not concerned about
> that. .  No other process uses more than 5% of the CPU, and who can
> begrudge a process 5%, so I'm only concerned about the 3 programs I list
> first. 
> 

The amount of memory usage in Task Manager, must give
some hint as to what is going on. Whether Firefox has
tab-unloading or any other accommodation, might depend on
which version you are running.

We don't have any idea -

1) How much memory the machine has.
2) How much memory claims to be
   used at the moment (in Task Manager)

In use (Compressed)  Available         <=== Notice Compressed is zero, which means
6.1 GB (0 MB)        122 GB                 the Memory Compressor is not running

Committed  Cached                      I've run virtual machines at very low memory,
7/129 GB   7.3 GB                      and at 256MB, the Memory Compressor rails on one
                                       core. You can see this in Process Explorer, which
Paged pool   Non-paged pool            has the capability of listing that one.
343 MB       295 MB

For the question about Eudora, I would open TCPView
and see if there is any "activity" present. Like some
connection that closes and opens, over and over again.

   Paul

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Wyat do these programs do with their time?  micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-06 22:34 -0500
  Re: Wyat do these programs do with their time? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-07 02:12 -0500
  Re: Wyat do these programs do with their time? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-07 05:03 -0500
    Re: Wyat do these programs do with their time? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-07 11:22 -0500

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