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Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May

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On 2025-03-01 22:01, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> VanguardLH <V@nguard.lh> wrote:
>> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> VanguardLH <V@nguard.lh> wrote:
>>>> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> VanguardLH <V@nguard.lh> wrote:
>>>>> [...]
>>>>>
>>>>>> As I recall, you had to buy SkypeOut minutes to get connected to
>>>>>> non-Skype users, like to landlines and mobile phones.  Does MS Teams
>>>>>> require similar purchase to connect to non-Teams endpoints with
>>>>>> landlines and mobile phones?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Moving forward, we will no longer offer paid Skype features to new
>>>>>> customers, including Skype Credit and subscriptions that allow you to
>>>>>> make and receive international and domestic calls."
>>>>>
>>>>>    Bummer, calling landlines and mobile phones was the only Skype feature
>>>>> we still used (most others like same-platform video/voice calls have
>>>>> been replaced by WhatsApp).
>>>>>
>>>>>    I want my 10 Euros of Skype Credit back! :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>    Anyone know of a replacement for that: Cheap calling of landlines and
>>>>> mobile phones from an app on a smartphone? (And no, no Google Voice for
>>>>> us non-US users.)
>>>>>
>>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>> Ooma has Android and iOS apps.  I didn't look into where you can use
>>>> Ooma.  There is no Windows app for Google Voice unless you count using a
>>>> web browser to their site, but you could use a web browser to Ooma, too.
>>>> Ooma isn't free, but they have a low-cost tier that charges for the
>>>> taxes they are required to collect by the feds (~$10 USD for my area).
>>>> For home phone service, you use their VOIP converter (not free).
>>>
>>>    Sorry for the confusion. See my response to Philip as to what Skype to
>>> normal phones (Skype Credit) can do. It allows cheap calls *to*, *in*
>>> and *from* foreign countries, all at a fixed price per country, no
>>> matter where you - the caller - are. That is what I need, not just cheap
>>> calls *to* another country.
>>>
>>> [...]
>>
>> Skype included a VOIP service if you paid extra.  As mentioned, there
>> are lots of other VOIP providers.  I'm not an expert on all VOIP
>> providers, so that research you'll have to do yourself.
> 
>    I did not use a VOIP service from Skype and I'm not looking for a VOIP
> service.
> 
>    I'm (mostly) looking for an app on an Android smartphone which allows
> me to make cheap calls to normal phones (landline or mobile) from
> anywhere in the world (i.e. where I happen to be) to anywhere in the
> world. That is what Skype with 'Skype Credit' provides. That's not a
> VOIP service. It might - and probably will - use VOIP in part of the
> pipe from caller to callee, but it's not a VOIP service.

Actually, it is VoIP :-)

It is VoIP to the destination country, and then, via a gateway, it is 
POTs to the destination phone. This is a service that any full service 
VoIP company should be able to provide.

You have a phone number, a terminal (which can be an actual terminal, or 
a computer +  SIP software), and a provider. You place a call to a VoIP 
address, you pay zero. You place a call to a landline, then you pay zero 
to the gateway at destination, then you pay according to your contract 
the fee from gateway to destination. You have to look up the tables for 
those prices that your SIP provider gives you, to find out the prices.

The better the SIP provider is, the more gateways it will have. If the 
gateways are distant, the service can be nearly as expensive as standard 
POTs.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May "Jan K." <janicekoziol@nie.ma.spamu.prosze.com> - 2025-03-01 00:41 +0100
  Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-02-28 22:54 -0600
    Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May "Jan K." <janicekoziol@nie.ma.spamu.prosze.com> - 2025-03-01 08:40 +0100
      Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-01 02:36 -0600
      Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> - 2025-04-03 17:17 +0200
    Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-01 16:12 +0000
      Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May Philip Herlihy <nothing@invalid.com> - 2025-03-01 18:14 +0000
        Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-01 18:45 +0000
          Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-02 03:39 +0100
      Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-01 12:35 -0600
        Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-01 19:11 +0000
          Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-01 13:35 -0600
            Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-01 21:01 +0000
              Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-02 03:49 +0100
                Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-02 14:24 +0000
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          Re: from skype to teams Jim <noreply@invalid.com> - 2025-03-02 01:30 +0000
    Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-02 03:34 +0100
      Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-01 22:15 -0600
    Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-01 21:33 -0400
      Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-06 13:25 +0200
        Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-04-07 02:09 +0000
  Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-03-01 10:44 +0100
    Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-01 06:16 -0500
    Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-01 12:36 -0600
      Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-03-02 11:24 +0100
        Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-02 14:07 -0600
          Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-03-02 22:16 +0100
            Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-02 22:29 -0600
              Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-03 08:30 +0100
                Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-03 03:03 -0600
                Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-03 03:54 -0600
                Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-03 11:03 +0100
                Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-03 11:01 +0100
          Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-03-02 22:16 +0100
            Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-02 22:31 -0600
              Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-03-03 17:21 +0100
                Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2025-03-03 16:53 +0000
                Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-03-04 15:07 +0100
                Re: Microsoft said Friday that it will shut down Skype in early May VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-03 14:14 -0600
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