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Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive

From	Char Jackson <none@none.invalid>
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Subject	Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive
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Date	2025-04-21 23:01 -0500

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On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 17:45:40 -0400, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

>While SAS exists and could in principle be put in your
>home computer, I've yet to read an account where someone
>claims they got a good result by doing this.

I guess that would depend on how you define 'good result'. I've been
using a 2-port SAS controller (8 SATA ports when using SATA breakout
cables) since 2009 and I've been completely happy with it. I haven't
benchmarked anything since I'm not one of the kids who needs to brag
about transfer speeds, but in actual practice I see absolutely no
performance difference between the SAS-connected drives versus the
onboard SATA-connected drives.

That setup worked well enough that I bought a second identical
controller in about 2010-2011 so that I could finish building out that
server with 16 drives, but I only ever used one SAS port (4 SATA ports)
on the second controller because the rest of the drives could use mobo
SATA ports. One of the controller features that's rather nice is that
they spin up the drives in a staggered manner, with the stagger delay
being configurable. That's better than hammering the PSU with spinning
up 16 drives all at once.

I don't remember much about the SAS controller and I don't have access
to that server at the moment, but the driver says "Marvell mvs94xx" so
that may be a hint.

>I don't
>know exactly what is wrong, with using them. They should
>work, but the transfer rates usually end up "sub-par".
>It cannot transfer any faster than a SATA drive, in the
>sense that the read channel at the platter can only go
>so fast, which today is around ~300MB/sec best case.

<snip>

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Mechanical or SSD for backup drive micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-19 22:34 -0400
  Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-20 03:48 -0400
    Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-04-20 09:27 +0100
    Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-20 20:23 +0200
      Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-20 16:55 -0400
        Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-21 14:42 +0200
          Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-21 21:22 -0400
        Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-22 20:15 +1000
          Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-22 16:52 -0400
            Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-04-23 00:37 +0100
              Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-04-23 17:45 +0100
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-24 20:56 +1000
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-24 22:37 +0200
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-24 21:48 -0400
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-25 05:32 -0400
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-25 20:14 +1000
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-25 13:37 +0200
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-25 23:32 +1000
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-25 20:20 +0200
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-04-25 22:02 +0100
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-26 19:44 +1000
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-26 21:00 +1000
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-26 20:07 +0200
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-26 17:20 -0400
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-27 14:17 +0200
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-26 19:24 +0000
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-26 22:28 +0200
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-04-27 11:36 +0100
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-28 00:16 +1000
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2025-04-28 21:22 +0100
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-29 22:37 +1000
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-29 17:27 +0000
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-29 17:48 +0000
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 21:09 +0200
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-30 19:24 +1000
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-04-30 20:20 +0100
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-30 19:10 +0000
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2025-04-30 15:49 +0100
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-29 17:21 +0000
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-29 15:26 -0400
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-30 19:14 +0000
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-04-29 17:18 -0500
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-04-30 22:21 +0000
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Sam E <no.email@here.invalid> - 2025-05-01 16:46 +0000
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-03 22:39 +1000
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-05-03 19:18 +0000
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-06 22:44 +1000
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-06 14:13 -0400
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-01 00:32 +1000
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-30 13:10 -0400
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-30 19:20 +0000
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-04-30 22:24 +0000
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-04 15:23 +0200
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-04 15:07 -0400
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-04 22:51 +0200
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-05-04 19:57 +0000
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-03 22:44 +1000
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2025-04-30 16:19 +0100
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-30 19:31 +0000
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-06 22:53 +1000
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-30 19:12 +0000
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 21:18 +0200
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2025-04-28 21:42 +0100
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-04-25 19:04 +0100
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-25 23:33 +0200
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-26 20:04 +1000
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-26 21:05 +1000
            Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-23 19:26 +1000
          Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Sam E <no.email@here.invalid> - 2025-04-22 23:00 +0000
            Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-04-23 00:40 +0100
  Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-20 07:15 -0400
    Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-20 11:11 -0400
      Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-20 12:08 -0400
      Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-04-20 12:38 -0400
  Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-04-20 12:31 -0400
  Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-04-21 02:38 +0000
    Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-21 03:52 -0400
      Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-21 11:51 -0400
        Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-21 21:13 -0400
      Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-04-22 06:07 +0000
        Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-22 05:34 -0400
    Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-21 07:40 -0400
      Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-21 09:12 -0400
        Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-04-21 14:54 +0100
          Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-04-21 15:29 +0100
            Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-04-21 16:06 +0100
              Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-21 17:45 -0400
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-04-22 00:15 +0100
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-04-21 23:01 -0500
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-04-22 06:58 +0100
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-22 05:47 -0400
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-04-22 10:37 -0500
                Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-22 14:34 -0400
        Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-21 11:38 -0400
          Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-21 18:29 -0400
            Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-21 22:23 -0400
  Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-21 14:05 +0000
    Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Mr Xi Ji Ping <ping@china.cn> - 2025-04-21 15:30 +0000
    Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-04-21 11:28 -0400
      Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-15 21:33 +1000
        Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-05-15 07:41 -0400
          Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-15 14:06 +0200
          Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-15 09:31 -0400
          Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-15 23:36 +1000
            Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-05-15 23:26 +0000
        Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-05-15 14:27 -0400
          Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-16 18:38 +1000
            Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-05-16 14:51 +0000
            Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-05-16 11:06 -0400
    Re: Mechanical or SSD for backup drive micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-21 12:08 -0400

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