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Keepass Password Safe merge kdbx databases

Started byGronk <invalid@invalid.invalid>
First post2022-10-23 11:39 -0600
Last post2022-10-26 18:38 +0000
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  Keepass Password Safe merge kdbx databases Gronk <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2022-10-23 11:39 -0600
    Re: Keepass Password Safe merge kdbx databases "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2022-10-23 19:47 +0000
      Re: Keepass Password Safe merge kdbx databases Gronk <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2022-10-23 14:24 -0600
        Re: Keepass Password Safe merge kdbx databases TPayne <Tpayne@nospam.net> - 2022-10-24 09:48 -0400
          Re: Keepass Password Safe merge kdbx databases Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2022-10-24 08:21 -0700
            Re: Keepass Password Safe merge kdbx databases Gronk <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2022-10-24 09:57 -0600
          Re: Keepass Password Safe merge kdbx databases Gronk <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2022-10-24 09:57 -0600
      Re: Keepass Password Safe merge kdbx databases occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2022-10-24 12:35 +0200
        Re: Keepass Password Safe merge kdbx databases Gronk <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2022-10-24 09:57 -0600
        Re: Keepass Password Safe merge kdbx databases "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2022-10-25 14:26 +0000
          Re: Keepass Password Safe merge kdbx databases Gronk <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2022-10-25 10:46 -0600
            Re: Keepass Password Safe merge kdbx databases "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2022-10-25 18:36 +0000
              Re: Keepass Password Safe merge kdbx databases Nic <Nic@none.net> - 2022-10-25 16:54 -0400
                Re: Keepass Password Safe merge kdbx databases "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2022-10-26 01:05 +0000
                  Re: Keepass Password Safe merge kdbx databases Nic <Nic@none.net> - 2022-10-26 07:18 -0400
                    Re: Keepass Password Safe merge kdbx databases "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2022-10-26 12:00 +0000
                      Re: Keepass Password Safe merge kdbx databases Gronk <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2022-10-26 08:43 -0600
                        Re: Keepass Password Safe merge kdbx databases "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2022-10-26 18:09 +0000
                    Re: Keepass Password Safe merge kdbx databases Gronk <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2022-10-26 08:36 -0600
                    Re: Keepass Password Safe merge kdbx databases Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2022-10-26 07:56 -0700
                      Re: Keepass Password Safe merge kdbx databases Nic <Nic@none.net> - 2022-10-26 11:26 -0400
                Re: Keepass Password Safe merge kdbx databases Zaidy036 <Zaidy036@air.isp.spam> - 2022-10-26 06:32 +0000
                  Re: Keepass Password Safe merge kdbx databases "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2022-10-26 10:41 +0000
              Re: Keepass Password Safe merge kdbx databases Gronk <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2022-10-26 08:29 -0600
                Re: Keepass Password Safe merge kdbx databases Nic <Nic@none.net> - 2022-10-26 11:27 -0400
    Re: Keepass Password Safe merge kdbx databases "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2022-10-26 10:43 +0000
      Re: Keepass Password Safe merge kdbx databases Nic <Nic@none.net> - 2022-10-26 07:22 -0400
        Re: Keepass Password Safe merge kdbx databases "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2022-10-26 12:03 +0000
          Re: Keepass Password Safe merge kdbx databases Bugsy <bugsy@zimage.comBUGSY> - 2022-10-26 10:01 -0500
          Re: Keepass Password Safe merge kdbx databases Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2022-10-26 18:38 +0000

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#1814

FromNic <Nic@none.net>
Date2022-10-26 11:26 -0400
Message-ID<Ikc6L.687910$iiS8.470444@fx17.iad>
In reply to#1812
On 10/26/22 10:56 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Oct 2022 07:18:03 -0400, Nic <Nic@none.net> wrote:
>
>> The more I look at this the more I am convinced that your
>> finances or good ideas should not be on a computer that is connected to
>> the internet.
>
> Since my finances are all on Quicken, and I update Quicken's data
> about them on the Internet multiple times a day, it has to be
> connected to the Internet.

It is your choice, if I were you I would would seriously consider some 
alternative.

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#1802

FromZaidy036 <Zaidy036@air.isp.spam>
Date2022-10-26 06:32 +0000
Message-ID<tjakab$2djji$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1798
Nic <Nic@none.net> wrote:
> On 10/25/22 2:36 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On Tue, 25 Oct 2022 10:46:27 -0600, Gronk wrote:
>> 
>>> Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> 
>>>> The Electronic Frontier Foundation mention KeePassXC as "an example of
>>>> a password manager that is open-source and free."[8]
>>>> 
>>>> An accompanying browser extension[9] is also available for Firefox,[10]
>>>> Google Chrome[11] and Microsoft Edge.[12]ยป
>>>> 
>>>> AND, it has a merge command in the "Database" menu. I forgot that the
>>>> XC fork has this, not the original program.
>>> Thank you for mentioning that KeepassXC has a "Merge" command in its
>>> "Database" menu. That "merge" command alone means I'll be using the
>>> keepassXC on Windows from now on!
>>> 
>>> Is the merge compatible with the Keepass databases on all platforms?
>>> https://keepass.info/download.html
>> I think so, but I have not tested that. It should be compatible if they
>> are the KeePassXC variant.
>> 
>> 
>> The way I do it is, first run the merge on computer A from B, and then B
>> from A. That is, I run it on both computers.
>> 
>> On computer A the file I name KeepPassComputerA.kdbx, and on B computer
>> it is KeepPassComputerB.kdbx
>> 
>> Then you either share the directory via network, or copy the file over
>> from the other computers, and run merge from them, one by one. And you
>> repeat on every computer, both directions.
>> 
>> And possibly, you have to copy the files one more time and repeat the
>> operation - not sure. Maybe someone can design a better strategy ;-)
>> 
>> 
>> Merge is only done, AFAIK, on one computer from another, one direction
>> only.
>> 
>> A bit pedestrian, but I'm not putting my password file on internet.
>> 
>> 
>>> Here is that list of Keepass programs on all the other platforms.
>> ...
>> 
>> 
> Can Keepassxxx be accessed from a remote computer?
> 
> 
> 

I find your comment about not putting your password file on the internet
questionable UNLESS you merge files only on directly wired devices isolated
from any chance of LAN/WAN contact.

-- 
Zaidy036

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#1803

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2022-10-26 10:41 +0000
Message-ID<jrsh6uFlen7U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#1802
On Wed, 26 Oct 2022 06:32:44 -0000 (UTC), Zaidy036 wrote:
> Nic <Nic@none.net> wrote:
>> On 10/25/22 2:36 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> On Tue, 25 Oct 2022 10:46:27 -0600, Gronk wrote:
>>>> Carlos E.R. wrote:


>>> 
>> Can Keepassxxx be accessed from a remote computer?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> I find your comment about not putting your password file on the internet
> questionable UNLESS you merge files only on directly wired devices
> isolated from any chance of LAN/WAN contact.

I don't.



-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#1809

FromGronk <invalid@invalid.invalid>
Date2022-10-26 08:29 -0600
Message-ID<tjbg86$3je61$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#1796
Carlos E.R. wrote:

>> Is the merge compatible with the Keepass databases on all platforms?
>> https://keepass.info/download.html
> 
> I think so, but I have not tested that. It should be compatible if they 
> are the KeePassXC variant.

Once you told me KeepassXC (cross platform) has a "Merge" command, I
installed it and doubleclicked on a Keepass kdbx copy & it read in good.

> 
> The way I do it is, first run the merge on computer A from B, and then B 
> from A. That is, I run it on both computers.

Some of the computers will be phones and tablets.

The KeepassXC (cross platform) FAQ recommends these iOS and Android apps.
https://keepassxc.org/docs/

Q: Does KeePassXC work on mobile phones? Which app would you recommend?
A: We don't have our own mobile app, but you can have the same 
   functionality on both Android and iOS!

For Android, we recommend KeePassDX and KeePass2Android.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kunzisoft.keepass.free
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=keepass2android.keepass2android

And for iOS, we suggest Strongbox and KeePassium.
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/strongbox-password-safe/id897283731
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/keepassium-keepass-passwords/id1435127111

> 
> On computer A the file I name KeepPassComputerA.kdbx, and on B computer 
> it is KeepPassComputerB.kdbx
> 
> Then you either share the directory via network, or copy the file over 
> from the other computers, and run merge from them, one by one. And you 
> repeat on every computer, both directions.
> 
> And possibly, you have to copy the files one more time and repeat the 
> operation - not sure. Maybe someone can design a better strategy ;-)
> 
> Merge is only done, AFAIK, on one computer from another, one direction 
> only.

Interesting method. I'll try that but I don't know if the phone keepass
variants have a merge command. Let me see if KeepassXC is on the phone.

> 
> A bit pedestrian, but I'm not putting my password file on internet.

Anyone who puts their password files on the Internet is a fool IMHO.

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#1815

FromNic <Nic@none.net>
Date2022-10-26 11:27 -0400
Message-ID<Plc6L.687911$iiS8.505832@fx17.iad>
In reply to#1809
On 10/26/22 10:29 AM, Gronk wrote:
> Carlos E.R. wrote:
>
>>> Is the merge compatible with the Keepass databases on all platforms?
>>> https://keepass.info/download.html
>>
>> I think so, but I have not tested that. It should be compatible if 
>> they are the KeePassXC variant.
>
> Once you told me KeepassXC (cross platform) has a "Merge" command, I
> installed it and doubleclicked on a Keepass kdbx copy & it read in good.
>
>>
>> The way I do it is, first run the merge on computer A from B, and 
>> then B from A. That is, I run it on both computers.
>
> Some of the computers will be phones and tablets.
>
> The KeepassXC (cross platform) FAQ recommends these iOS and Android apps.
> https://keepassxc.org/docs/
>
> Q: Does KeePassXC work on mobile phones? Which app would you recommend?
> A: We don't have our own mobile app, but you can have the same 
> functionality on both Android and iOS!
>
> For Android, we recommend KeePassDX and KeePass2Android.
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kunzisoft.keepass.free
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=keepass2android.keepass2android 
>
>
> And for iOS, we suggest Strongbox and KeePassium.
> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/strongbox-password-safe/id897283731
> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/keepassium-keepass-passwords/id1435127111
>
>>
>> On computer A the file I name KeepPassComputerA.kdbx, and on B 
>> computer it is KeepPassComputerB.kdbx
>>
>> Then you either share the directory via network, or copy the file 
>> over from the other computers, and run merge from them, one by one. 
>> And you repeat on every computer, both directions.
>>
>> And possibly, you have to copy the files one more time and repeat the 
>> operation - not sure. Maybe someone can design a better strategy ;-)
>>
>> Merge is only done, AFAIK, on one computer from another, one 
>> direction only.
>
> Interesting method. I'll try that but I don't know if the phone keepass
> variants have a merge command. Let me see if KeepassXC is on the phone.
>
>>
>> A bit pedestrian, but I'm not putting my password file on internet.
>
> Anyone who puts their password files on the Internet is a fool IMHO.

Include a phone also.

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#1804

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2022-10-26 10:43 +0000
Message-ID<jrsh9rFlen7U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#1779
On Sun, 23 Oct 2022 11:39:57 -0600, Gronk wrote:

Side question:

Does the group "alt.comp.microsoft.windows" exist? Pan says it doesn't, 
and complains when I answer posts in this thread.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#1806

FromNic <Nic@none.net>
Date2022-10-26 07:22 -0400
Message-ID<fM86L.123432$tRy7.115875@fx36.iad>
In reply to#1804
On 10/26/22 6:43 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Oct 2022 11:39:57 -0600, Gronk wrote:
>
> Side question:
>
> Does the group "alt.comp.microsoft.windows" exist? Pan says it doesn't,
> and complains when I answer posts in this thread.
>
On my news server it does exist. Using Tbird. It also exists in Pan.

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#1808

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2022-10-26 12:03 +0000
Message-ID<jrsm0cFlen7U6@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#1806
On Wed, 26 Oct 2022 07:22:50 -0400, Nic wrote:

> On 10/26/22 6:43 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On Sun, 23 Oct 2022 11:39:57 -0600, Gronk wrote:
>>
>> Side question:
>>
>> Does the group "alt.comp.microsoft.windows" exist? Pan says it doesn't,
>> and complains when I answer posts in this thread.
>>
> On my news server it does exist. Using Tbird. It also exists in Pan.

Then it is my news server that doesn't have it (News.Individual.NET).


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#1813

FromBugsy <bugsy@zimage.comBUGSY>
Date2022-10-26 10:01 -0500
Message-ID<tjbi4c$3eqbo$1@paganini.bofh.team>
In reply to#1808
"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

>>> Does the group "alt.comp.microsoft.windows" exist? Pan says it doesn't,
>>> and complains when I answer posts in this thread.
>>>
>> On my news server it does exist. Using Tbird. It also exists in Pan.
> 
> Then it is my news server that doesn't have it (News.Individual.NET).

Not only does it exist but it's the only Windows newsgroup autoarchived.

Compare these related URLs.
http://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.freeware
http://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.microsoft.windows
http://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.os.windows-10
http://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.os.windows-7
http://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.os.windows-8
http://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.os.windows-xp
http://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.os.windows-2k
http://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.os.windows-95
http://groups.google.com/g/comp.editors
http://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.microsoft.office
http://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.software.firefox
http://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.software.thunderbird
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#1818

FromFrank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Date2022-10-26 18:38 +0000
Message-ID<tjc5ro.k98.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>
In reply to#1808
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Oct 2022 07:22:50 -0400, Nic wrote:
> 
> > On 10/26/22 6:43 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> >> On Sun, 23 Oct 2022 11:39:57 -0600, Gronk wrote:
> >>
> >> Side question:
> >>
> >> Does the group "alt.comp.microsoft.windows" exist? Pan says it doesn't,
> >> and complains when I answer posts in this thread.
> >>
> > On my news server it does exist. Using Tbird. It also exists in Pan.
> 
> Then it is my news server that doesn't have it (News.Individual.NET).

  I would trust News.Individual.NET more than some HighWinds server.

  The group also exists on my ISP's non-managed non-server, so go with
NIN and be happy. I am.

  N.B. In another post, another poster posts an even more doubtful list
of alt newsgroups.

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