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| Started by | Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> |
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| First post | 2022-02-20 16:33 +0000 |
| Last post | 2022-02-22 10:30 -0500 |
| Articles | 6 on this page of 166 — 25 participants |
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If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-20 16:33 +0000
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2022-02-20 16:38 +0000
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-20 16:58 +0000
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-20 12:09 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> - 2022-02-20 13:05 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-20 20:37 +0000
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> - 2022-02-20 21:38 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-21 04:16 +0000
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-21 04:38 +0000
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@ro4.ch> - 2022-02-21 08:05 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-21 08:38 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@ro4.ch> - 2022-02-21 08:55 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2022-02-21 09:27 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-21 11:32 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@ro4.ch> - 2022-02-21 13:25 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-21 15:16 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-22 02:30 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@ro4.ch> - 2022-02-22 10:29 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-28 05:44 +0000
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-21 15:14 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> - 2022-02-21 21:16 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-22 05:27 +0000
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@ro4.ch> - 2022-02-22 10:09 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-22 12:43 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@ro4.ch> - 2022-02-22 13:37 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-22 15:01 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> - 2022-02-22 16:44 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-22 19:36 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> - 2022-02-22 21:14 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-23 07:58 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@ro4.ch> - 2022-02-23 09:01 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-23 09:27 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@R04.CH> - 2022-02-23 03:26 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-22 02:30 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@ro4.ch> - 2022-02-22 10:22 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-22 12:43 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-21 15:11 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-21 15:23 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-22 05:32 +0000
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2022-02-22 09:37 -0600
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@ro4.ch> - 2022-02-22 11:12 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> - 2022-02-21 21:14 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-22 05:44 +0000
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@ro4.ch> - 2022-02-22 10:15 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-22 12:43 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@ro4.ch> - 2022-02-22 13:39 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-22 15:01 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> - 2022-02-22 16:31 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-22 19:36 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> - 2022-02-22 21:05 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-23 07:58 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@ro4.ch> - 2022-02-23 08:53 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-21 08:38 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-21 15:20 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> - 2022-02-21 21:17 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-22 05:56 +0000
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@ro4.ch> - 2022-02-22 10:18 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-22 02:30 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@ro4.ch> - 2022-02-22 10:25 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-22 12:43 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@ro4.ch> - 2022-02-22 13:53 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-22 15:01 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> - 2022-02-22 16:31 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-08-13 19:47 +0100
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-08-13 15:08 -0400
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-08-13 22:25 +0100
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-08-13 18:07 -0400
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-08-14 04:32 +0100
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-08-14 06:41 -0400
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-08-14 14:50 +0100
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2022-08-14 10:25 -0400
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-08-14 16:08 +0100
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2022-08-14 12:45 -0400
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Sail Fisherman <sailfisherman@sailfisherman.com> - 2022-08-15 02:07 +0900
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-08-14 12:05 -0400
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Jerry Friedman <jerry_friedman@yahoo.com> - 2022-08-14 10:30 -0600
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-08-14 12:39 -0400
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? "Rick" <rick@nospam.com> - 2022-08-14 10:26 -0400
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2022-08-14 11:04 -0400
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-08-14 16:28 +0100
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> - 2022-08-14 17:31 +0200
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-08-14 12:05 -0400
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2022-08-14 11:47 -0400
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-08-14 17:22 +0100
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2022-08-14 13:01 -0400
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-08-14 18:26 +0100
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? CDB <bellemarecd@gmail.com> - 2022-08-14 13:31 -0400
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Arlen Holder <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-08-14 22:15 +0100
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2022-08-15 15:07 +0000
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2022-08-15 13:09 -0400
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2022-08-15 17:14 -0400
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2022-08-16 18:59 +0000
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2022-08-16 18:57 +0000
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? YK <youkidding@yahoo.com> - 2022-08-15 11:14 -0400
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2022-08-15 13:18 -0400
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2022-08-15 13:34 -0400
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? YK <youkidding@yahoo.com> - 2022-08-16 17:04 -0400
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-08-14 16:19 +0100
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Arlen Holder <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-08-14 22:16 +0100
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? "Rick" <rick@nospam.com> - 2022-08-17 11:41 -0400
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-08-14 12:05 -0400
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-08-14 17:49 +0100
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@R04.CH> - 2022-08-14 10:31 -0400
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-08-14 12:05 -0400
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? John Robertson <spam@flippers.com> - 2022-08-14 11:09 -0600
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2022-02-21 09:23 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@ro4.ch> - 2022-02-21 11:12 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-21 11:32 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-21 15:26 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> - 2022-02-21 21:19 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-20 20:54 +0000
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-20 16:06 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2022-02-21 00:28 +0100
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> - 2022-02-20 21:57 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-21 04:46 +0000
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@ro4.ch> - 2022-02-21 08:08 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2022-02-21 07:41 +0100
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@ro4.ch> - 2022-02-21 08:34 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Peter <occassionally-confused@nospam.co.uk> - 2022-02-22 05:18 +0000
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2022-02-22 07:37 +0100
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-22 08:32 +0000
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@ro4.ch> - 2022-02-22 09:43 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2022-02-23 09:53 +1300
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Peter <occassionally-confused@nospam.co.uk> - 2022-02-23 17:10 +0000
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2022-02-24 05:39 +1100
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2022-02-26 11:19 +0100
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Peter <occassionally-confused@nospam.co.uk> - 2022-02-26 16:34 +0000
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-26 11:45 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-27 16:03 +0000
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? "Jacob Jones" <jkj33@gmail.com> - 2022-02-27 07:10 +1100
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-26 16:09 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2022-02-27 10:25 +1300
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-27 10:22 +0000
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-28 15:28 +0000
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2022-02-23 09:04 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@R04.CH> - 2022-02-23 03:24 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Peter <occassionally-confused@nospam.co.uk> - 2022-02-23 17:05 +0000
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2022-02-24 05:34 +1100
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2022-02-23 19:25 +0100
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@R04.CH> - 2022-02-23 16:06 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? allen <allen@spam.com> - 2022-02-23 15:22 -0800
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2022-02-24 10:42 +1300
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Peter <occassionally-confused@nospam.co.uk> - 2022-02-23 16:59 +0000
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@R04.CH> - 2022-02-23 12:13 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Peter <occassionally-confused@nospam.co.uk> - 2022-02-23 17:39 +0000
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-23 21:58 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2022-02-24 07:19 +0100
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-24 01:33 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-24 17:04 +0000
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-24 12:40 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2022-02-21 07:46 +0100
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> - 2022-02-20 21:47 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2022-02-21 07:43 +0100
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-21 21:39 +0000
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-21 04:19 +0000
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> - 2022-02-20 13:01 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-20 20:44 +0000
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> - 2022-02-20 21:42 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-21 04:54 +0000
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@ro4.ch> - 2022-02-21 08:09 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-21 21:34 +0000
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> - 2022-02-21 21:27 -0500
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2022-02-22 08:02 +0000
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-22 08:42 +0000
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2022-02-22 09:14 +0000
Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@ro4.ch> - 2022-02-22 10:30 -0500
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| From | Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> |
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| Date | 2022-02-21 21:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <sv10i9$19dn$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #1219 |
rabidR04CH wrote: >> That's really the question. > > Microsoft _can_ blacklist a product key. If the product key itself is > blocked, you can still install Windows, obviously, but not activate it. Well, that's what I was afraid of. Once Microsoft implements a forced login, then they have the power to pull sleazy lockout tricks for no good reason other than their algorithms suck. For example, my devices are _not_ stolen, and my only "crime" was I refuse to stay locked inside the walled prison garden - so they locked me out. If Microsoft pulls the same sleazy tricks, then it's a bad thing indeed.
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| From | rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> |
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| Date | 2022-02-21 21:27 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <8SXQJ.19439$jwf9.13364@fx24.iad> |
| In reply to | #1270 |
On 2022-02-21 4:34 p.m., Andy Burnelli wrote: > rabidR04CH wrote: > >>> That's really the question. >> >> Microsoft _can_ blacklist a product key. If the product key itself is >> blocked, you can still install Windows, obviously, but not activate it. > > Well, that's what I was afraid of. > > Once Microsoft implements a forced login, then they have the power to pull > sleazy lockout tricks for no good reason other than their algorithms suck. > > For example, my devices are _not_ stolen, and my only "crime" was I refuse > to stay locked inside the walled prison garden - so they locked me out. > > If Microsoft pulls the same sleazy tricks, then it's a bad thing indeed. If Microsoft pulls those sleazy tricks with regularity, people would finally be tempted to give Linux a serious consideration but they've done many "controversial" things in the past and Linux never actually took off. I doubt there is anything Microsoft can do other than systematically kill babies which would push people toward widespread Linux adoption. -- rabidR04CH Zephyrus G14 GA401QM on Windows 11 For fans of message boards, I invite you: https://retalk.com/invite/rabidR04CH
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| From | Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> |
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| Date | 2022-02-22 08:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <j7jjl6Ftn10U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #1270 |
Andy Burnelli wrote: > rabidR04CH wrote: > >> Microsoft _can_ blacklist a product key. If the product key itself is blocked, >> you can still install Windows, obviously, but not activate it. > > Well, that's what I was afraid of. Nothing in the licence agreement requires you to login with an MSA, or mentions an MSA in relation to activation. <https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/Useterms/Retail/Windows/11/Useterms_Retail_Windows_11_English.htm>
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| From | Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> |
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| Date | 2022-02-22 08:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <sv27m4$19c6$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #1293 |
Andy Burns wrote: > Nothing in the licence agreement requires you to login with an MSA, or mentions > an MSA in relation to activation. > > <https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/Useterms/Retail/Windows/11/Useterms_Retail_Windows_11_English.htm> Since you're not an iKook I take you seriously, where the news said that an Internet account will be required in the future Windows 11 pro (and that it's required for the current Windows 11 Home). Can you clarify that assessment with the MSA account you discuss above? Are they two different things?
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| From | Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> |
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| Date | 2022-02-22 09:14 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <j7jnrkFuga0U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #1295 |
Andy Burnelli wrote: > Andy Burns wrote: > >> Nothing in the licence agreement requires you to login with an MSA, or >> mentions an MSA in relation to activation. >> >> <https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/Useterms/Retail/Windows/11/Useterms_Retail_Windows_11_English.htm> > > Since you're not an iKook I take you seriously, where the news said that an > Internet account will be required in the future Windows 11 pro (and that > it's required for the current Windows 11 Home). I haven't touched Windows 11 at all, and the version of Pro that's going to require an MSA doesn't exist yet. I suspect it will mean an MSA has to exist, but that you can login with a domain account or a local account, there is no way businesses will accept all users being forced to login with an MSA. Then there's the question of how long does the MSA have to exist for? i.e. if you must have one to install, can it be deleted after activation and never used again? Windows 10 Pro has got harder to install without creating/using an MSA, but not impossible, connect it to a dedicated wifi SSID or ethernet cable, which has no routing to the internet. > Can you clarify that assessment with the MSA account you discuss above? > Are they two different things? I suspect nobody can clarify it until it is implemented, but if they want to implement it, the licence agreement doesn't appear to have any phrases to back it up.
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| From | rabidR04CH <rabid@ro4.ch> |
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| Date | 2022-02-22 10:30 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <Pk7RJ.72878$iK66.18552@fx46.iad> |
| In reply to | #1293 |
On 2022-02-22 03:02, Andy Burns wrote: > Andy Burnelli wrote: > >> rabidR04CH wrote: >> >>> Microsoft _can_ blacklist a product key. If the product key itself is >>> blocked, you can still install Windows, obviously, but not activate it. >> >> Well, that's what I was afraid of. > > Nothing in the licence agreement requires you to login with an MSA, or > mentions an MSA in relation to activation. > > <https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/Useterms/Retail/Windows/11/Useterms_Retail_Windows_11_English.htm> Good to know. They do, however, make it rather difficult to even install the operating system without one. -- rabidR04CH MSI GT72 2QD on Linux Mint 20.3 "But Peter and the apostles answered, 'We must obey God rather than men.'" - Acts 5:29 For fans of message boards, I invite you: https://retalk.com/invite/rabidR04CH
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